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		<title>By: Nance</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2003/10/19/ick/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Nance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly agree that you should judge artists by their art and not their personal lives (otherwise no one could listen to Miles Davis), but Woody really seems to be on a real disconnect lately. His movies are awful; he's lost his touch in so many ways you can hardly believe he ever had it. And he's really obsessed with this idea that he's a National Treasure, which I assume, should this book ever be published, will go away, too, if if hasn't already.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly agree that you should judge artists by their art and not their personal lives (otherwise no one could listen to Miles Davis), but Woody really seems to be on a real disconnect lately. His movies are awful; he&#8217;s lost his touch in so many ways you can hardly believe he ever had it. And he&#8217;s really obsessed with this idea that he&#8217;s a National Treasure, which I assume, should this book ever be published, will go away, too, if if hasn&#8217;t already.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2003/10/19/ick/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody Allen and Frank Sinatra are two people I have personally loathed, while still enjoying their work. Sometimes it's a struggle to divorce the person from the work itself, and sometimes I wonder whether I'm being a little self-serving.



On the aspect of Matureen Dowd hitting one out of the park: same feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody Allen and Frank Sinatra are two people I have personally loathed, while still enjoying their work. Sometimes it&#8217;s a struggle to divorce the person from the work itself, and sometimes I wonder whether I&#8217;m being a little self-serving.</p>
<p>On the aspect of Matureen Dowd hitting one out of the park: same feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2003/10/19/ick/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't let my qualms with the man destroy my enjoyment of his work—too much, anyway. Can't say I've been to one of his flicks in the past coupla years though. I suppose it's because I've heard them all roundly trashed by people whose opinions I generally respect.



Then again, some of Woody's biggest critical flops gave me some of the biggest belly laughs ever, I seem to recall. "Alice," from about a dozen years ago, was one such movie. Perhaps on some level my discomfort with his personal behavior has, in fact, kept me away from his recent efforts.



I remember in college feeling a similar dilemma with Evelyn Waugh, whose writing delights me like the work of few authors, yet whose personal idiosyncrasies and world view left me stone cold. At that time I got shaken from the all-too-common habit of needing to believe that artists—writers, musicians, actors, painters, whatever—must necessarily hold a corner on wisdom or virtue. It's quite possible for one to be gifted—even to be a genius—and still be a complete fool, or even a despicable schmuck.



I probably wouldn't shell out my hard-earned dough for that book, even when it's on the bargain table at Border's for $2.99 hardback a month or two after its debut. It'll be much more fun seeing how authors like Dowd dissect it and tell the stories behind the stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t let my qualms with the man destroy my enjoyment of his work—too much, anyway. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve been to one of his flicks in the past coupla years though. I suppose it&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve heard them all roundly trashed by people whose opinions I generally respect.</p>
<p>Then again, some of Woody&#8217;s biggest critical flops gave me some of the biggest belly laughs ever, I seem to recall. &#8220;Alice,&#8221; from about a dozen years ago, was one such movie. Perhaps on some level my discomfort with his personal behavior has, in fact, kept me away from his recent efforts.</p>
<p>I remember in college feeling a similar dilemma with Evelyn Waugh, whose writing delights me like the work of few authors, yet whose personal idiosyncrasies and world view left me stone cold. At that time I got shaken from the all-too-common habit of needing to believe that artists—writers, musicians, actors, painters, whatever—must necessarily hold a corner on wisdom or virtue. It&#8217;s quite possible for one to be gifted—even to be a genius—and still be a complete fool, or even a despicable schmuck.</p>
<p>I probably wouldn&#8217;t shell out my hard-earned dough for that book, even when it&#8217;s on the bargain table at Border&#8217;s for $2.99 hardback a month or two after its debut. It&#8217;ll be much more fun seeing how authors like Dowd dissect it and tell the stories behind the stories.</p>
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		<title>By: danno</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2003/10/19/ick/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>danno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Woody has had a few good ones, but has never 'rocked my world', but then again, I'm not a young Korean girl either!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Woody has had a few good ones, but has never &#8216;rocked my world&#8217;, but then again, I&#8217;m not a young Korean girl either!!</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2003/10/19/ick/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe maureen addressed this -- i didn't read the link -- but i find it interesting that he's insisting on being paid "a lot of money" to tell his tale. this is the same guy who insists that actors -- no matter how well-paid -- work for scale when they work for HIM. it's a different matter when he's on the receiving end of the paycheck, apparently.



whenever his name comes up these days, i'm reminded of a remark from mia farrow's book. she was trying to explain to him what was wrong with his relationship with soon-yi, and told him, "you don't fuck the kids!" any man who needs this EXPLAINED to him deserves whatever he gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe maureen addressed this &#8212; i didn&#8217;t read the link &#8212; but i find it interesting that he&#8217;s insisting on being paid &#8220;a lot of money&#8221; to tell his tale. this is the same guy who insists that actors &#8212; no matter how well-paid &#8212; work for scale when they work for HIM. it&#8217;s a different matter when he&#8217;s on the receiving end of the paycheck, apparently.</p>
<p>whenever his name comes up these days, i&#8217;m reminded of a remark from mia farrow&#8217;s book. she was trying to explain to him what was wrong with his relationship with soon-yi, and told him, &#8220;you don&#8217;t fuck the kids!&#8221; any man who needs this EXPLAINED to him deserves whatever he gets.</p>
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		<title>By: ashley</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2003/10/19/ick/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it's not being a New Yorker, but I just never really, really got Woody Allen.  Yeah, Without Feathers and Getting Even were kind of cute, but I didn't walk away feeling like this was the work of some grand intellectual.



Sure I liked some of his movies, but I never really felt much empathy for any of the characters.  Then, when he talked about someone being shat upon...well, I guess he's topical or somesuch.



Maureen Dowd, otoh, rocks.  An intellectual redhead.  Boo-ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not being a New Yorker, but I just never really, really got Woody Allen.  Yeah, Without Feathers and Getting Even were kind of cute, but I didn&#8217;t walk away feeling like this was the work of some grand intellectual.</p>
<p>Sure I liked some of his movies, but I never really felt much empathy for any of the characters.  Then, when he talked about someone being shat upon&#8230;well, I guess he&#8217;s topical or somesuch.</p>
<p>Maureen Dowd, otoh, rocks.  An intellectual redhead.  Boo-ya.</p>
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