Comments on: The clipping service.

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:08:38 +0000

Self-censorship was what I was talking about. I was just making a comparison that Tim Robbins worries that being afraid of being labeled unpatriotic leads people to not speak out against the war (a point you made, too). Those against gay marriage are afraid to speak out in the same manner, afraid of being called a Nazi, a homophobe, against civil rights, etc. I don’t believe our society can handle the redefinition of marriage without violence. Is that fuzzy? I still think bigotry is a two way street, bigotry is being intolerant other viewpoints.

By: Nance

Nance — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 16:57:05 +0000

OK, Dan, now you’re making no sense at all.

You make a muddy argument about gay marriage — something about not being able to protect queers when the tide changes. Then you say “some things are wrong,” which I assume includes gay marriage.

I say this is bigotry.

Where is the censorship? I’m not making the connection.

Is it because I must respect your beliefs as a Christian, and therefore not call it bigotry? I don’t really care how you justify it; I still think it’s bigotry. I’ve heard sensible arguments against gay marriage from a variety of sources, but when someone says, “My religion says it’s wrong, therefore it is wrong,” the argument ends.

By the way, I’ve never heard such restraint from the other side. Say you think gay people should have some version of a government-approvved civil union, if only to protect their property/estates/guardianship, and the religious right calls you evil. The war in Iraq is wrong? Unpatriotic. A 16-cell zygote isn’t a human being with full constitutional rights? Murderer.

In any event, this argument is tiresome. But I appreciate your efforts to keep it going. It appears you’re following the road map just fine.

By: Nance

Nance — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 13:10:12 +0000

Jeez, you’re really off the cliff here, aren’t you?

Yes, I believe some things are plain wrong.

No, I don’t believe two people who love one another and want to make a legal commitment to honor that commitment are wrong.

Yes, yes, even though I KNOW this will lead to MAN ON DOG marriage, DAD ON DAUGHTER marriage and THREE KINKY SICKOS marriage. That’s because I’m EEEEEEEeeeeviilllllll!!! Mwah ha ha ha ha ha! And soon the whole country will follow me and my eeeeeevvviiilll minions!

Oh. Sorry.

By: beth

beth — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 09:02:10 +0000

Dan, I think that you believe yourself to be Rush Limbaugh or other such creature in sheep’s clothing. There is no rational way to relate gay marriage and middle school suicide. But of course, I don’t happen to live in your world. thank goodness. In the words of my (late) grandmother… get a frickin’ grip!

By: Dan McAfee

Dan McAfee — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 03:19:11 +0000

Bigotry. Isn’t the definition of a bigot one who does not accept that anyone else’s arguments have merit? So can we both be bigots together? We can have bigot picnics! Nope, can’t do that because picnics is a racial slur, isn’t it.

Is there anything any of you believe is just plain wrong? How about suicide? That’s a personal choice, yes? And many are born with a tendancy toward depression. And there’s too many people in the world anyway… so suicide should be a legal and proper thing to allow.

I’m ready for the first suicide reality show. It should be held at a middle school, I think, because lord knows middle schoolers are all very sure of their paths in life, not confused about life at all, and they can’t be influenced at all. What to give the winner, though.

By: ashley

ashley — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:15:19 +0000

I think sure grip is generic, the name for Cramer’s is Firm Grip.

I love the smell of that stuff. Actually, I never used it for taping, but then I didn’t tape my knees: just braces.

Fred Biletnikoff used to use gallons of the paste stuff until they outlawed it in the NFL. They still allow the use of the aerosol.

Heard that the duct tape they use on the gowns could give cleavage to anybody. False Advertising, I say.

By: Nance

Nance — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:05:40 +0000

The Misses wear this stuff on their butts to keep their swimsuits from riding up. I think it’s called Sure Grip. It’s a mild adhesive, somewhere between duct tape and Post-it Note glue. Athletes use it when they tape their knees — keeps the Ace bandage from slipping.

Delightfully kinky? Only if you enjoy seeing sausage made.

My favorite story from the Miss A pageant, the year I covered it, was Miss Missouri, whose fingernails were so long her chaperone had to put her pantyhose on for her, like a baby. That said something, although I’m not sure what.

By: Michael G

Michael G — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:36:44 +0000

OK, I give up. What’s the “adhesive spray thing on the fannies”? Sounds delightfully kincky.

By: Nance

Nance — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:52:55 +0000

Oh, you know, my usual thing: Giving makeup tips, applying double-stick tape to the evening gowns, doing the adhesive-spray thing on the fannies, coaching the tap dancers. Just being the warm ray of Miss America sunshine I always am.

By: Connie

Connie — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:44:55 +0000

When you were at the Miss America pageant? Doing what might I ask. Connie