Comments on: Jeane Kirkpatrick’s wrinkles. http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles one writer's daily download Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:21:29 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mary http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13921 mary Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:11:49 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13921 Oh, the dog I adopted yesterday is named Poppy, and she's lovely. Oh, the dog I adopted yesterday is named Poppy, and she’s lovely.

]]> By: mary http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13919 mary Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:59:33 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13919 Basset Please have a look at Gentle Giants website. They are now getting 900-1000 per dog, and they say they are non profit. I have adopted three dogs in the past year from the shelter, and a total of seven in the past twenty years, so please don't lecture me. I"ve adopted nine cats from the shelters in the same time period. I donate supplies to shelters, time to the shelters, and have referred lots of people to shelters who might have bought that puppy mill dog. I worked on a year long project with my son making a video about LA animal shelters (both county and city) and it's been shown at several schools in the LA school district. I speak to kids about volunteering at shelters. The local rescue groups here get about 350 minimum, and I know this as a fact. If you have any doubts, knock yourself out looking at websites for rescue groups in the Los Angeles area. Here's a website started by people who had bad experiences with Gentle Giants : http://www.gentlegiantnews.com/AboutUs.html Please have a look. Then look at the Gentle Giants website. Take a look at the application for adoption, with its provision that you buy your dog food from them. I know more about my local rescue groups than you do, and I stand by what I said. Basset
Please have a look at Gentle Giants website. They are now getting 900‑1000 per dog, and they say they are non profit. I have adopted three dogs in the past year from the shelter, and a total of seven in the past twenty years, so please don’t lecture me. I“ve adopted nine cats from the shelters in the same time period. I donate supplies to shelters, time to the shelters, and have referred lots of people to shelters who might have bought that puppy mill dog. I worked on a year long project with my son making a video about LA animal shelters (both county and city) and it’s been shown at several schools in the LA school district. I speak to kids about volunteering at shelters.
The local rescue groups here get about 350 minimum, and I know this as a fact. If you have any doubts, knock yourself out looking at websites for rescue groups in the Los Angeles area. Here’s a website started by people who had bad experiences with Gentle Giants :
http://www.gentlegiantnews.com/AboutUs.html

Please have a look. Then look at the Gentle Giants website. Take a look at the application for adoption, with its provision that you buy your dog food from them.

I know more about my local rescue groups than you do, and I stand by what I said.

]]> By: Dorothy http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13899 Dorothy Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:57:25 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13899 Bassett I have never bought a puppy mill dog in my life. I never was a dog owner until I was 22 and newly married. We have always bought mixed breeds or from a friend who needed to find a home for new puppies. The most I ever paid for a dog was $75. I was referring to the buyer who is able and willing to pay $300-$600 for a pure bred dog. I think you're being unnecessarily harsh to Mary and I, to be honest. You're making judgements that aren't possible in the limited information you have in the comment sections here. I am sure rescue organizations have good ones and bad ones. Mary was referencing one she is familiar with. How can one person be familiar with every single rescue group? Be fair, okay? Bassett I have never bought a puppy mill dog in my life. I never was a dog owner until I was 22 and newly married. We have always bought mixed breeds or from a friend who needed to find a home for new puppies. The most I ever paid for a dog was $75. I was referring to the buyer who is able and willing to pay $300-$600 for a pure bred dog. I think you’re being unnecessarily harsh to Mary and I, to be honest. You’re making judgements that aren’t possible in the limited information you have in the comment sections here.

I am sure rescue organizations have good ones and bad ones. Mary was referencing one she is familiar with. How can one person be familiar with every single rescue group? Be fair, okay?

]]> By: basset http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13884 basset Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:04:56 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13884 Mary... if you're concerned about getting "beaten to the shelter," well, we'll just let the next few shelter dogs we hear about get killed so we'll know we didn't get in your way or anything. More important, obviously, to leave a dog in there just in case someone might want him than to work proactively toward finding him a home. I can't speak for LA rescue groups, but here in Tennessee we get $175 per dog to cover expenses, we rely heavily on donations, we're a legit-and-can-prove-it 501(c)3 and we run at a loss. Without volunteers, we couldn't operate - and we don't sell dog food. You may "hear that $750 is more common," but I never have. Then again, I don't operate on hearsay. And addressing Dorothy's comment about "for a little more someone could get a brand new pure bred..." well, that's just beyond response, you don't get it and there's nothing I can do. Just go on down to the pet store, buy a puppy-mill dog and congratulate yourself on your superior shopping skills. Mary… if you’re concerned about getting “beaten to the shelter,” well, we’ll just let the next few shelter dogs we hear about get killed so we’ll know we didn’t get in your way or anything. More important, obviously, to leave a dog in there just in case someone might want him than to work proactively toward finding him a home.

I can’t speak for LA rescue groups, but here in Tennessee we get $175 per dog to cover expenses, we rely heavily on donations, we’re a legit-and-can-prove-it 501©3 and we run at a loss. Without volunteers, we couldn’t operate — and we don’t sell dog food.

You may “hear that $750 is more common,” but I never have. Then again, I don’t operate on hearsay.

And addressing Dorothy’s comment about “for a little more someone could get a brand new pure bred…” well, that’s just beyond response, you don’t get it and there’s nothing I can do. Just go on down to the pet store, buy a puppy-mill dog and congratulate yourself on your superior shopping skills.

]]> By: mary http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13870 mary Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:03:54 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13870 Dorothy I just looked at the website for the giant dog rescue group I mentioned. I also found a website for disgruntled adoptors of the giant dog rescue group. Appararently, the current fee is 900 to 1000 dollars for adoption. The founder of this group, claims he places 600 dogs per year, but claims the organization makes a gross income of 22k. Bad math. They are very litigious as well, since they get mentioned in a negative way very often. I know my small amount of contact with them has been bad. Dorothy
I just looked at the website for the giant dog rescue group I mentioned. I also found a website for disgruntled adoptors of the giant dog rescue group. Appararently, the current fee is 900 to 1000 dollars for adoption. The founder of this group, claims he places 600 dogs per year, but claims the organization makes a gross income of 22k. Bad math.
They are very litigious as well, since they get mentioned in a negative way very often. I know my small amount of contact with them has been bad.

]]> By: Dorothy http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13865 Dorothy Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:16:42 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13865 Mary you pointed out several things that set off alarms in me, as well, about rescue groups. See, before we moved to SC we had Atticus, our golden mix who was nearly 10. The weekend before we moved he had to be put to sleep. He had been sick for months and losing weight. Heartbroken, I turned to websites for around us in SC thinking we'd get one through them. I was astonished to see the high fees for adoption, etc. I don't recall any mention of buying dog food, etc., but it seemed to discourage, instead of encourage, my inkling to go thru a rescue group. I think the fee was at least $200 to adopt. I'm sure the fees help them with the maintenance of problem cases, etc. But honestly, for a little more someone could get a brand new pure bred instead of rescuing, right? It cost us just $50 to adopt Augie directly from the vet here. He was already neutered. His surgery was partially paid for by an anonymous donor (which happened before we owned him...still they didn't ask us for anything towards it). This place is so wonderful to us. When my dad died last August and we had to board Augie in a hurry, they took him immediately. When we got home they would not take any payment from us for the 5 days he spent there while we were home for the funeral. I can't say enough nice things about them. Mary you pointed out several things that set off alarms in me, as well, about rescue groups. See, before we moved to SC we had Atticus, our golden mix who was nearly 10. The weekend before we moved he had to be put to sleep. He had been sick for months and losing weight. Heartbroken, I turned to websites for around us in SC thinking we’d get one through them. I was astonished to see the high fees for adoption, etc. I don’t recall any mention of buying dog food, etc., but it seemed to discourage, instead of encourage, my inkling to go thru a rescue group. I think the fee was at least $200 to adopt. I’m sure the fees help them with the maintenance of problem cases, etc. But honestly, for a little more someone could get a brand new pure bred instead of rescuing, right?

It cost us just $50 to adopt Augie directly from the vet here. He was already neutered. His surgery was partially paid for by an anonymous donor (which happened before we owned him…still they didn’t ask us for anything towards it). This place is so wonderful to us. When my dad died last August and we had to board Augie in a hurry, they took him immediately. When we got home they would not take any payment from us for the 5 days he spent there while we were home for the funeral. I can’t say enough nice things about them.

]]> By: mary http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13862 mary Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:57:52 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13862 Dorothy I'm a little down on rescue groups here in LA. For non-profit organizations, they seem pretty profitable. When I was trying to adopt a great dane, I kept getting beaten to the shelter by a rescue group that only does giant breeds. Great, except they grab every dane/bouvier/mastiff/irish wolfhound as soon as they get to shelters, and to adopt one from them costs a minimum of 350 dollars. And you sign a contract allowing unannounced check up visits, and requiring you to buy your dogfood from them. That minimum is unrealistic by the way. I hear that 750 is more common, and that buying that required first year of dog food from them runs over a grand. I'm sure rescue groups do good work, but they also prevent good dog owners from getting dogs sometimes. Dorothy
I’m a little down on rescue groups here in LA. For non-profit organizations, they seem pretty profitable. When I was trying to adopt a great dane, I kept getting beaten to the shelter by a rescue group that only does giant breeds. Great, except they grab every dane/bouvier/mastiff/irish wolfhound as soon as they get to shelters, and to adopt one from them costs a minimum of 350 dollars. And you sign a contract allowing unannounced check up visits, and requiring you to buy your dogfood from them. That minimum is unrealistic by the way. I hear that 750 is more common, and that buying that required first year of dog food from them runs over a grand.
I’m sure rescue groups do good work, but they also prevent good dog owners from getting dogs sometimes.

]]> By: Dorothy http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13858 Dorothy Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:07:50 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13858 BTW Bassett, our Augie was a rescue but not through any specific organization. He had been shot in the leg and was recovered. The vet hospital near our home was looking for a home for him. If we hadn't adopted him, they were going to turn him over to the local Golden Rescue group. BTW Bassett, our Augie was a rescue but not through any specific organization. He had been shot in the leg and was recovered. The vet hospital near our home was looking for a home for him. If we hadn’t adopted him, they were going to turn him over to the local Golden Rescue group.

]]> By: mary http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13856 mary Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:52:47 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13856 As soon as I get her and she stands still long enough to be photographed, I will. She's very pretty. As soon as I get her and she stands still long enough to be photographed, I will. She’s very pretty.

]]> By: Dorothy http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/comment-page-1/#comment-13855 Dorothy Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:19:23 +0000 http://nancynall.com/2006/08/11/jeane-kirkpatricks-wrinkles/#comment-13855 Mary will you put a picture of her on flickr? I'm anxious to see her! Mary will you put a picture of her on flickr? I’m anxious to see her!

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