Comments on: The soft belly of Hardball. http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/ one writer's daily download Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:20:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Edward Eugene Baskett http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-177517 Edward Eugene Baskett Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:19:11 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-177517 I Call Him Christopher - My Letters to Chris Matthews of Hardball - Leave this peaches and cream guy alone! He has done nothing to bring forth such draconian ire. Read the extract from my book about him. I Call Him Christopher - My Letters to Chris Matthews of Hardball - Leave this peaches and cream guy alone! He has done nothing to bring forth such draconian ire. Read the extract from my book about him.

]]> By: brian stouder http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173651 brian stouder Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:51:01 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173651 Thanks Susan; I think that's a good suggestion. Maybe I'll informally sidle up to the principal, and see if she's heard any reactions. I saw her upon our return, and (as she bustled out to get to a meeting) mentioned to her that I thought she might be hearing more about the expedition.... Thanks Susan; I think that’s a good suggestion. Maybe I’ll informally sidle up to the principal, and see if she’s heard any reactions. I saw her upon our return, and (as she bustled out to get to a meeting) mentioned to her that I thought she might be hearing more about the expedition….

]]> By: Sue http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173620 Sue Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:47:07 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173620 Brian, you did not fail anyone. This was thrown at you; you had no more information than any of the other parents who also did not speak up. I think you probably did not realize the extent of the reality the counselors were trying to convey until you were in the thick of it, and that has nothing to do with "dithering". You kept the kids you were in charge of safe and let them know you were protecting them. I'm sure the other parents did too. If your school district is anything like mine, you would have been labeled forevermore as a wack-job parent if you had tried to stop it. Don't feel bad. Your instincts are right on this. If there were any school district personnel on the trip that you are comfortable with, a low-key phone call expressing general concern might be in order. If they haven't had any complaints, then you look like nothing more than a concerned parent. If complaints have been coming in, then you look like a calm voice in the storm. Either way you get your point across and keep communication open. Brian, you did not fail anyone. This was thrown at you; you had no more information than any of the other parents who also did not speak up. I think you probably did not realize the extent of the reality the counselors were trying to convey until you were in the thick of it, and that has nothing to do with “dithering”. You kept the kids you were in charge of safe and let them know you were protecting them. I’m sure the other parents did too. If your school district is anything like mine, you would have been labeled forevermore as a wack-job parent if you had tried to stop it. Don’t feel bad. Your instincts are right on this. If there were any school district personnel on the trip that you are comfortable with, a low-key phone call expressing general concern might be in order. If they haven’t had any complaints, then you look like nothing more than a concerned parent. If complaints have been coming in, then you look like a calm voice in the storm. Either way you get your point across and keep communication open.

]]> By: michaelj http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173592 michaelj Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:19:10 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173592 Chris Matthews? Can't he afford a speech therapist? Elides half the syllables. Randy Newman has him pegged. "Jesus, what a jerk." Mr. Sheep. Chris Matthews? Can’t he afford a speech therapist? Elides half the syllables. Randy Newman has him pegged. “Jesus, what a jerk.” Mr. Sheep.

]]> By: michaelj http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173574 michaelj Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:40:59 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173574 And Olbermann is relentless in his dislike of Hillary. He actually badgers his guests when they don't buy into his attacks on her. But, I have to admit, unlike the Gigantic Head, Keith hasn't waxed stupid on McCain's Old Spice. Nothing to do with anything, but does anybody actually buy Barack's story about his Granny and the N word? Stilted delivery, lame prose, unadulterated bullshit. There's a real difference, though. Hillary and Barack might produce tall tales under campaign pressure. BFD (aside from the fact that Keith Olbermann will crucify Hillary days in a row and ignore Obama's liberties). McCain, on the other hand can be told <i>ad infinitum</i> that al Quaeda are Sunni and Iran is the Shia heart, and he still convolutes the two. Next thing, he was riding that tank as a liberator at Auswich with Ron Raygun. This is bizarre on so many levels. Anybody that thinks al Quaeda in Mesopotamia has anything to do with Osama, or predates the US invasion, is delusional. Anybody that thinks the Shia we're supposed to like, as opposed to that loose cannon al Sadr, didn't spend years drooling on Kahmeini's slippers in Teheran instead of, oh, I don't know, fighting an insurgency against Saddam, well Doug Feith has a research job for you. Classified, though, but you get to meet Rumsfeld, that sexy man. The greatest draft dodgers the world has ever known are screwing with the lives of a volunteer army for personal profit. They're making every effort to leave a Democrat with a briar patch, the way HW left Somalia and NAFTA for Clinton. (Clinton forged the labor and environment side agreements to NAFTA, but W abrogated both, something that seems to have evaded the conciousness of David Sirota and all of the mainstream press.) Dexter, I remember Joe Pyne. True whackjob. Hell, I heard Father Coughlin in person at the Shrine. Both guys were superior anti-semites, so it's probably good their days are gone. These days, supporting the Badr Corps makes you a friend of Iraqi freedom (nurtured in Iran) and, I suppose, a friend of Israel. Mixed up, muddled up, shook up world. And Olbermann is relentless in his dislike of Hillary. He actually badgers his guests when they don’t buy into his attacks on her. But, I have to admit, unlike the Gigantic Head, Keith hasn’t waxed stupid on McCain’s Old Spice.

Nothing to do with anything, but does anybody actually buy Barack’s story about his Granny and the N word? Stilted delivery, lame prose, unadulterated bullshit.

There’s a real difference, though. Hillary and Barack might produce tall tales under campaign pressure. BFD (aside from the fact that Keith Olbermann will crucify Hillary days in a row and ignore Obama’s liberties). McCain, on the other hand can be told ad infinitum that al Quaeda are Sunni and Iran is the Shia heart, and he still convolutes the two. Next thing, he was riding that tank as a liberator at Auswich with Ron Raygun.

This is bizarre on so many levels. Anybody that thinks al Quaeda in Mesopotamia has anything to do with Osama, or predates the US invasion, is delusional. Anybody that thinks the Shia we’re supposed to like, as opposed to that loose cannon al Sadr, didn’t spend years drooling on Kahmeini’s slippers in Teheran instead of, oh, I don’t know, fighting an insurgency against Saddam, well Doug Feith has a research job for you. Classified, though, but you get to meet Rumsfeld, that sexy man.

The greatest draft dodgers the world has ever known are screwing with the lives of a volunteer army for personal profit. They’re making every effort to leave a Democrat with a briar patch, the way HW left Somalia and NAFTA for Clinton. (Clinton forged the labor and environment side agreements to NAFTA, but W abrogated both, something that seems to have evaded the conciousness of David Sirota and all of the mainstream press.)

Dexter, I remember Joe Pyne. True whackjob. Hell, I heard Father Coughlin in person at the Shrine. Both guys were superior anti-semites, so it’s probably good their days are gone. These days, supporting the Badr Corps makes you a friend of Iraqi freedom (nurtured in Iran) and, I suppose, a friend of Israel. Mixed up, muddled up, shook up world.

]]> By: michaelj http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173550 michaelj Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:44:54 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173550 Hint of the north wind? Been reading John Crowlley? I think it's fairly obvious that the 'authorization' required Shrub to return to Congress with some kind of proof before acting, and to allow el Baradei to provide whatever proof might be available. Given that Obama has voted Dem the way Clarence Thomas affirms Scalia, he's full of shit on this issue. When you get right down to it, I think it comes down to people in Congress just not considering the idea that a President of the Nunined Snakes (no typos, that's how W says it) would flat out lie his ass off. Despite the popular huzzah, it's only partially about oil, in the grand scheme of war profiteering. Hint of the north wind? Been reading John Crowlley?

I think it’s fairly obvious that the ‘authorization’ required Shrub to return to Congress with some kind of proof before acting, and to allow el Baradei to provide whatever proof might be available. Given that Obama has voted Dem the way Clarence Thomas affirms Scalia, he’s full of shit on this issue.

When you get right down to it, I think it comes down to people in Congress just not considering the idea that a President of the Nunined Snakes (no typos, that’s how W says it) would flat out lie his ass off. Despite the popular huzzah, it’s only partially about oil, in the grand scheme of war profiteering.

]]> By: Dexter http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173549 Dexter Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:33:17 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173549 Back when I was a kid, at least the wingers were entertaining. Sometimes I watched Joe Pyne. He was a character, and as a kid, sometimes he left me utterly aghast. He's long-forgotten , I suppose, by anyone less than 55 years of age, but here's a history lesson of today's topic: http://classicshowbiz.blogspot.com/2008/01/joe-pyne-show-with-guest-anti-war.html Back when I was a kid, at least the wingers were entertaining. Sometimes I watched Joe Pyne. He was a character, and as a kid, sometimes he left me utterly aghast.
He’s long-forgotten , I suppose, by anyone less than 55 years of age, but here’s a history lesson of today’s topic:

http://classicshowbiz.blogspot.com/2008/01/joe-pyne-show-with-guest-anti-war.html

]]> By: basset http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173546 basset Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:03:47 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173546 why is this bullshit important? why do you care what one hair-helmet said to, or about, another, anyway? why is this bullshit important? why do you care what one hair-helmet said to, or about, another, anyway?

]]> By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one) http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173544 Jeff (the mild-mannered one) Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:53:55 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173544 I liked Chris Matthews on that "Ants Marching" song, especially the live concert version. __ __ __ what? __ __ oh, Dave Matthews. Never mind. I liked Chris Matthews on that “Ants Marching” song, especially the live concert version.

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]]> By: brian stouder http://nancynall.com/2008/04/10/the-soft-belly-of-hardball/#comment-173543 brian stouder Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:15:07 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=1756#comment-173543 <b>“On certain occasions, however, a decision is made that is clearly not in the best interest of the students and their guardians whom we serve,” </b>Wallace wrote. That really cuts to the core of the issue, joodyb. I think the real issue - the one thing I'm still pondering - is whether I lived up to the real duty entailed by <i>in loco parentis</i>. Honestly, it looks like I failed (the young folks and their parents) - but on the other hand, someone whose opinion I greatly value (and who wins pretty much every argument we have) says I'm being a pansy-ass about this all...and she rightly points out that (so far) NO ONE else who was there has echoed my misgivings. The choice at crunch-time was: a) state unequivocally "That's it! We're done! We're outta here!". thereby derailing (so to speak) the whole thing or b) acquiesce...which is the default choice, if you dither “On certain occasions, however, a decision is made that is clearly not in the best interest of the students and their guardians whom we serve,” Wallace wrote.

That really cuts to the core of the issue, joodyb. I think the real issue - the one thing I’m still pondering - is whether I lived up to the real duty entailed by in loco parentis.

Honestly, it looks like I failed (the young folks and their parents) - but on the other hand, someone whose opinion I greatly value (and who wins pretty much every argument we have) says I’m being a pansy-ass about this all…and she rightly points out that (so far) NO ONE else who was there has echoed my misgivings.

The choice at crunch-time was: a) state unequivocally “That’s it! We’re done! We’re outta here!”. thereby derailing (so to speak) the whole thing

or b) acquiesce…which is the default choice, if you dither

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