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		<title>By: LA Mary</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189189</link>
		<dc:creator>LA Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You were in my neck of the woods, Dexter. Eagle Rock is next door. I'm in Mt.Washington, the hilly part of Highland Park. The freeway is still operating with 1930s ramps and rules which makes for lots of minor accidents on ramps. Eagle Rock is now hip and getting hipper, read more expensive. The biggest news in Highland Park is the Superior supermarket that opened. Huge Latino supermarket with a tortilleria right at the front door. You can get a bag of 36 hot tortillas for 99 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were in my neck of the woods, Dexter. Eagle Rock is next door. I&#8217;m in Mt.Washington, the hilly part of Highland Park. The freeway is still operating with 1930s ramps and rules which makes for lots of minor accidents on ramps. Eagle Rock is now hip and getting hipper, read more expensive. The biggest news in Highland Park is the Superior supermarket that opened. Huge Latino supermarket with a tortilleria right at the front door. You can get a bag of 36 hot tortillas for 99 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: whitebeard</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189108</link>
		<dc:creator>whitebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter. I can even remember traffic lights to regulate the flow of vehicles at certain times of the day. Of course, most freeways have recommended speed limits for entrance ramps; they must be only recommended because no one pays attention. I also remember 55 mph speed limits during the oil shortage; perhaps the double nickel (55) should be reinstated because of the shortage of money to pay for our soon-to-arrive $5 gasoline and $6 diesel fuel. Set the thermostats to 55 also; you look good in blue in the northern states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter. I can even remember traffic lights to regulate the flow of vehicles at certain times of the day. Of course, most freeways have recommended speed limits for entrance ramps; they must be only recommended because no one pays attention. I also remember 55 mph speed limits during the oil shortage; perhaps the double nickel (55) should be reinstated because of the shortage of money to pay for our soon-to-arrive $5 gasoline and $6 diesel fuel. Set the thermostats to 55 also; you look good in blue in the northern states.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189105</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough call, ain't it, LA M.  Of course a Volvo is a great safe car , but now with air bags and other safety issues, other determining  factors can influence you and him, and Dad.  Here we are , forced to decide on make and model with gasoline mileage always first, and for some , it's scary to think of a loved one on the freeways in a Totota Yaris when SUVs are on the sides and coming up fast in the mirror.  However, the Yaris went up 40% in sales recently, and SUV sales tanked.  Maybe soon our freeways will resemble  Italian roadways, full of Vespas  and other motorbikes, and cars the size of Smart Cars.
( I have a short history of being in LA...post-army days, crashing at a buddy's place in Canoga Park and  vacationing and staying in Eagle Rock off Colorado Blvd.  Near there was an entrance ramp to a freeway ( maybe  the "Historic Arroyo Seco Parkway"?) with a stop sign at the end of the on-ramp...my sis-in-law told me that was a relic from when the freeway was built...I think all ramps had stop sign at merge points when freeways were new...right?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough call, ain&#8217;t it, LA M.  Of course a Volvo is a great safe car , but now with air bags and other safety issues, other determining  factors can influence you and him, and Dad.  Here we are , forced to decide on make and model with gasoline mileage always first, and for some , it&#8217;s scary to think of a loved one on the freeways in a Totota Yaris when SUVs are on the sides and coming up fast in the mirror.  However, the Yaris went up 40% in sales recently, and SUV sales tanked.  Maybe soon our freeways will resemble  Italian roadways, full of Vespas  and other motorbikes, and cars the size of Smart Cars.<br />
( I have a short history of being in LA&#8230;post-army days, crashing at a buddy&#8217;s place in Canoga Park and  vacationing and staying in Eagle Rock off Colorado Blvd.  Near there was an entrance ramp to a freeway ( maybe  the &#8220;Historic Arroyo Seco Parkway&#8221;?) with a stop sign at the end of the on-ramp&#8230;my sis-in-law told me that was a relic from when the freeway was built&#8230;I think all ramps had stop sign at merge points when freeways were new&#8230;right?)</p>
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		<title>By: LA Mary</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189102</link>
		<dc:creator>LA Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter, I've got a six year old VW new beetle, which is actually pretty fun to drive, but it's no ghia. Still a lot of fun, though. I really love it. I have to find something very cheap for older son to drive. He just graduated and will be commuting to school for the first year. The light rail at the bottom of my hilll does go right to the college though. He doesn't really need a car. Unless his dad buys it, insures it, and pays for gas, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter, I&#8217;ve got a six year old VW new beetle, which is actually pretty fun to drive, but it&#8217;s no ghia. Still a lot of fun, though. I really love it. I have to find something very cheap for older son to drive. He just graduated and will be commuting to school for the first year. The light rail at the bottom of my hilll does go right to the college though. He doesn&#8217;t really need a car. Unless his dad buys it, insures it, and pays for gas, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Travis McGee, "easier" is how you can always tell what you shouldn't do.

The word of the MacDonald.

(Thanks be to John.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Travis McGee, &#8220;easier&#8221; is how you can always tell what you shouldn&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>The word of the MacDonald.</p>
<p>(Thanks be to John.)</p>
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		<title>By: basset</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189095</link>
		<dc:creator>basset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jeff on this one.  Caliban/Michaelj/whatever name he chooses next indeed has a right to say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean we have to listen to it.  by whitebeard's reasoning, Caliban/whoever could walk in your front door, plop down on your couch, and start free-associating, you'd be obliged to put up with him... at least as long as he was talking.

Thing is, we are giving him exactly what he wants - attention.  Usually I just ignore trolls and eventually they go away, that's probably the best approach here.  Be a lot easier if Nance just flicked the switch on him, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jeff on this one.  Caliban/Michaelj/whatever name he chooses next indeed has a right to say whatever he wants, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we have to listen to it.  by whitebeard&#8217;s reasoning, Caliban/whoever could walk in your front door, plop down on your couch, and start free-associating, you&#8217;d be obliged to put up with him&#8230; at least as long as he was talking.</p>
<p>Thing is, we are giving him exactly what he wants - attention.  Usually I just ignore trolls and eventually they go away, that&#8217;s probably the best approach here.  Be a lot easier if Nance just flicked the switch on him, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189093</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: CalibanJ, or whomever s/he is today -- it ain't free speech, it's Nancy's porch, so her rules rule.

Having said that, this puts me in mind of a much discussed article passed about among clergy blogs recently -- http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/faith/19408079.html?location_refer=Most%20Viewed:Faith%20+%20Values

My position has been to work with, around, and through disruptions, but i work with homeless folks quite a bit, so i'm not as easily thrown as some, but not because i'm i nicer person.  Just used to the fact that irrationality is normal behavior, and all part of the rich pageant . . . and it makes me think through my own pretensions to rationality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: CalibanJ, or whomever s/he is today &#8212; it ain&#8217;t free speech, it&#8217;s Nancy&#8217;s porch, so her rules rule.</p>
<p>Having said that, this puts me in mind of a much discussed article passed about among clergy blogs recently &#8212; <a href="http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/faith/19408079.html?location_refer=Most%20Viewed:Faith%20+%20Values" rel="nofollow">http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/faith/19408079.html?location_refer=Most%20Viewed:Faith%20+%20Values</a></p>
<p>My position has been to work with, around, and through disruptions, but i work with homeless folks quite a bit, so i&#8217;m not as easily thrown as some, but not because i&#8217;m i nicer person.  Just used to the fact that irrationality is normal behavior, and all part of the rich pageant . . . and it makes me think through my own pretensions to rationality!</p>
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		<title>By: whitebeard</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189078</link>
		<dc:creator>whitebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dorothy, Bassett, Please
Caliban and his rants are known as free speech, protected by the law of the land, last I heard. We can, if we wish, decide to ignore and not read what he writes, but he is like a diamond in the rough, uncut, unpolished and definitely not a perfect typist. Sometimes, I am upset by what he writes and express my displeasure, but I will vigorously defend his right to post his comments, as I would hope he defends my right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy, Bassett, Please<br />
Caliban and his rants are known as free speech, protected by the law of the land, last I heard. We can, if we wish, decide to ignore and not read what he writes, but he is like a diamond in the rough, uncut, unpolished and definitely not a perfect typist. Sometimes, I am upset by what he writes and express my displeasure, but I will vigorously defend his right to post his comments, as I would hope he defends my right.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189065</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1979...a bit before your column , maybe?  Yeah, you or Ann Colone (R.I.P) or Cliff Milnor  could have fun with a topic like that.  Milnor's column ran in the JG, as I recall, going back at least to the 1960s.  I don't know how well you knew Colone, but the little people loved her.  If you knew Larry Wheeler from your time on WGL, he is a friend of mine .  He is an antennae specialist and was a close HAM radio buddy of Bob Sievers, but I think he was an engineer for WGL for a time, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1979&#8230;a bit before your column , maybe?  Yeah, you or Ann Colone (R.I.P) or Cliff Milnor  could have fun with a topic like that.  Milnor&#8217;s column ran in the JG, as I recall, going back at least to the 1960s.  I don&#8217;t know how well you knew Colone, but the little people loved her.  If you knew Larry Wheeler from your time on WGL, he is a friend of mine .  He is an antennae specialist and was a close HAM radio buddy of Bob Sievers, but I think he was an engineer for WGL for a time, too.</p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/05/30/the-long-drive/#comment-189031</link>
		<dc:creator>nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this was when I was working in Fort Wayne, I'm disappointed I didn't get a call. Would have made a hell of a column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this was when I was working in Fort Wayne, I&#8217;m disappointed I didn&#8217;t get a call. Would have made a hell of a column.</p>
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