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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/06/19/the-ramones-are-elitist/#comment-192676</link>
		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I keep thinking that Lee Abrams was the consultant who had Columbus’s Q-FM-96 play a loop tape of wind chimes mixed under the announcers every damn time the mics were open.&lt;/i&gt;

JC - interesting point! 

I used to be annoyed by the news updates on Ft Wayne media (TV and radio!) that played a loop of teletype machines under each broadcast. I don't know when it went away, but looking back, it (the clackity clack of those machines) became "what news sounds like".

I think the modern equivalent, when one tunes to a cable news channel, is seeing a group of people dressed in corporate casual, flitting about behind the news anchor at the desk, as she delivers the news.

I always wonder, are those people actually doing anything? Do they get paid more on the days they're scheduled to mill about in the background? (or maybe they get paid less, when they have that privilege?)</description>
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<p>JC - interesting point! </p>
<p>I used to be annoyed by the news updates on Ft Wayne media (TV and radio!) that played a loop of teletype machines under each broadcast. I don&#8217;t know when it went away, but looking back, it (the clackity clack of those machines) became &#8220;what news sounds like&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think the modern equivalent, when one tunes to a cable news channel, is seeing a group of people dressed in corporate casual, flitting about behind the news anchor at the desk, as she delivers the news.</p>
<p>I always wonder, are those people actually doing anything? Do they get paid more on the days they&#8217;re scheduled to mill about in the background? (or maybe they get paid less, when they have that privilege?)</p>
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		<title>By: jcburns</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/06/19/the-ramones-are-elitist/#comment-192674</link>
		<dc:creator>jcburns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep thinking that Lee Abrams was the consultant who had Columbus's Q-FM-96 play a loop tape of wind chimes mixed under the announcers every damn time the mics were open.

Ah, seventies radio. (tinkle, tinkle, ding, bong.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep thinking that Lee Abrams was the consultant who had Columbus&#8217;s Q-FM-96 play a loop tape of wind chimes mixed under the announcers every damn time the mics were open.</p>
<p>Ah, seventies radio. (tinkle, tinkle, ding, bong.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/06/19/the-ramones-are-elitist/#comment-192666</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Gerson in the WaPo -- "Whatever the reason, his lack of a strong, centrist ideological identity raises a concern about his governing approach. Obama has no moderate policy agenda that might tame or modify the extremes of his own party in power. Will every Cabinet department simply be handed over to the most extreme Democratic interest groups? Will Obama provide any centrist check on liberal congressional overreach?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/19/AR2008061903020.html?nav=hcmodule

[Oh, and i don't like gaming, i just don't think it should be banned.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Gerson in the WaPo &#8212; &#8220;Whatever the reason, his lack of a strong, centrist ideological identity raises a concern about his governing approach. Obama has no moderate policy agenda that might tame or modify the extremes of his own party in power. Will every Cabinet department simply be handed over to the most extreme Democratic interest groups? Will Obama provide any centrist check on liberal congressional overreach?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/19/AR2008061903020.html?nav=hcmodule" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/19/AR2008061903020.html?nav=hcmodule</a></p>
<p>[Oh, and i don't like gaming, i just don't think it should be banned.]</p>
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		<title>By: del</title>
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		<dc:creator>del</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figure the government ought to run ALL gaming, like it does across the river from Detroit in Windsor.  My Republican friends, of course, disagree.  Their eyes glass over like Moonies and they proffer trite Ted Nugentesque arguments about how the private sector's much more "efficient" and should run the casinos.  Hello?  More efficient at what business model -- taking poor saps' money?  Gambling's a tax on ignorance and desperation if you ask me.  As it stands, here in Michigan, the profiteers cleaning up in "gaming" -- if you call shooting fish in a barrel gaming -- are people with very dubious backgrounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figure the government ought to run ALL gaming, like it does across the river from Detroit in Windsor.  My Republican friends, of course, disagree.  Their eyes glass over like Moonies and they proffer trite Ted Nugentesque arguments about how the private sector&#8217;s much more &#8220;efficient&#8221; and should run the casinos.  Hello?  More efficient at what business model &#8212; taking poor saps&#8217; money?  Gambling&#8217;s a tax on ignorance and desperation if you ask me.  As it stands, here in Michigan, the profiteers cleaning up in &#8220;gaming&#8221; &#8212; if you call shooting fish in a barrel gaming &#8212; are people with very dubious backgrounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/06/19/the-ramones-are-elitist/#comment-192610</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is remotely possible that i do not have completely accurate recall of the late 70's/early 80's, but i can affirm the absolute sway of the statue of limitations over that period of my life (no murders or treason).

We'll say it was '79 then; thanks for the link, Danny.

Nancy, i don't think Obama wants to do any specific illiberal things in the name of liberalism, but if we're picking up a Democratic Congress, it's gonna make me that much more likely to stay a McCain voter.  I've already dealt twice with frivolous civil rights commission filings in my life, and the future seems to be full of more of the same, only moreso.  I don't want there not to be a CRC, but i'd like to minimize the impact of administrative law over my everyday life.

One can fairly ask "at the cost of electing warmongering pigs?"  That is, in fact, a problem, too -- bomb 'em all, let God sort 'em out is a real weltanschauung out there, and want them restrained and inhibited and disempowered.

It's like life is trade-offs or something; i'd like a clean, clear choice, but that never happens (except for voting on expanding state-supported gambling, which is a no for me; i don't object to gaming, just the gov'mint running it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is remotely possible that i do not have completely accurate recall of the late 70&#8217;s/early 80&#8217;s, but i can affirm the absolute sway of the statue of limitations over that period of my life (no murders or treason).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll say it was &#8216;79 then; thanks for the link, Danny.</p>
<p>Nancy, i don&#8217;t think Obama wants to do any specific illiberal things in the name of liberalism, but if we&#8217;re picking up a Democratic Congress, it&#8217;s gonna make me that much more likely to stay a McCain voter.  I&#8217;ve already dealt twice with frivolous civil rights commission filings in my life, and the future seems to be full of more of the same, only moreso.  I don&#8217;t want there not to be a CRC, but i&#8217;d like to minimize the impact of administrative law over my everyday life.</p>
<p>One can fairly ask &#8220;at the cost of electing warmongering pigs?&#8221;  That is, in fact, a problem, too &#8212; bomb &#8216;em all, let God sort &#8216;em out is a real weltanschauung out there, and want them restrained and inhibited and disempowered.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like life is trade-offs or something; i&#8217;d like a clean, clear choice, but that never happens (except for voting on expanding state-supported gambling, which is a no for me; i don&#8217;t object to gaming, just the gov&#8217;mint running it).</p>
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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/06/19/the-ramones-are-elitist/#comment-192601</link>
		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You killed him!!

Murderer!!! Enabler!! Willing Executioner!!!</description>
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<p>Murderer!!! Enabler!! Willing Executioner!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LAMary</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/06/19/the-ramones-are-elitist/#comment-192600</link>
		<dc:creator>LAMary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys bummed a cigarette off me once.</description>
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		<title>By: coozledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>coozledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a guilty pleasure for you. I still love to hear Liz's voice. All of her stuff was a kind of improvised word-salad. She was also a really pretty kid. Her husband was a brilliant guitarist, but also an incredible jerk. I'm beginning to wonder if the two qualities are inseparable.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GieSISXdaak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a guilty pleasure for you. I still love to hear Liz&#8217;s voice. All of her stuff was a kind of improvised word-salad. She was also a really pretty kid. Her husband was a brilliant guitarist, but also an incredible jerk. I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if the two qualities are inseparable.<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=GieSISXdaak" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=GieSISXdaak</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, wow.  Are you sure it wasn't Novermber 1979?

I heard last year that they found the video footage of the entire concert.  Who knows. Someday we may be treated to the re-release and a DVD.  I would love that.

Oh, here is the link.

http://mixonline.com/news/headline/supertramp-cupsnstrings-restoration-072106/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, wow.  Are you sure it wasn&#8217;t Novermber 1979?</p>
<p>I heard last year that they found the video footage of the entire concert.  Who knows. Someday we may be treated to the re-release and a DVD.  I would love that.</p>
<p>Oh, here is the link.</p>
<p><a href="http://mixonline.com/news/headline/supertramp-cupsnstrings-restoration-072106/" rel="nofollow">http://mixonline.com/news/headline/supertramp-cupsnstrings-restoration-072106/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And i met the band "Shoes" and got to know them before they . . . ok, they never got big.  "Too Late" was about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoes_%28band%29

LAMary, give us a Ric Ocasek story or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And i met the band &#8220;Shoes&#8221; and got to know them before they . . . ok, they never got big.  &#8220;Too Late&#8221; was about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoes_%28band%29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoes_%28band%29</a></p>
<p>LAMary, give us a Ric Ocasek story or something.</p>
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