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	<title>Comments on: Oliver Stone&#8217;s revenge.</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200088</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking back over Presidential endgames --

Kennedy -- well, yeah.

Johnson -- rambling monologues in darkened Oval Office, rioters in the street.

Nixon -- rambling monologues in darkened Oval Office, impeachment committee in the hall.

Ford -- Poland is free?  Inflation, swine flu, pratfalls; no scandals.

Carter -- Bert Lance, malaise, recriminations, Kennedy ego.

Reagan -- Iran-Contra, the birth of the departing staffer bio, Nancy with astrology charts in the East Wing.

Bush 41 -- Checks watch, asks about check-out.

Clinton -- Move on.

Bush 43 -- Alberto.

Point being they just don&#039;t go gentle into that good night.  Ford managed to avoid exit scandals more than anyone on this list (JFK&#039;s came long after, but will last in memory), but both parties have trouble making a clean exit from the stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking back over Presidential endgames &#8211;</p>
<p>Kennedy &#8212; well, yeah.</p>
<p>Johnson &#8212; rambling monologues in darkened Oval Office, rioters in the street.</p>
<p>Nixon &#8212; rambling monologues in darkened Oval Office, impeachment committee in the hall.</p>
<p>Ford &#8212; Poland is free?  Inflation, swine flu, pratfalls; no scandals.</p>
<p>Carter &#8212; Bert Lance, malaise, recriminations, Kennedy ego.</p>
<p>Reagan &#8212; Iran-Contra, the birth of the departing staffer bio, Nancy with astrology charts in the East Wing.</p>
<p>Bush 41 &#8212; Checks watch, asks about check-out.</p>
<p>Clinton &#8212; Move on.</p>
<p>Bush 43 &#8212; Alberto.</p>
<p>Point being they just don&#8217;t go gentle into that good night.  Ford managed to avoid exit scandals more than anyone on this list (JFK&#8217;s came long after, but will last in memory), but both parties have trouble making a clean exit from the stage.</p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200084</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got Wag the Dog via Netflix.  Just like Z.  Easy to order, hard to sit through the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got Wag the Dog via Netflix.  Just like Z.  Easy to order, hard to sit through the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200024</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, yes.  My kids were right here and that averted much trauma.  Husband was out and the cellphones didn&#039;t work -- not so much fun, that.  Glad everyone is OK at your end!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, yes.  My kids were right here and that averted much trauma.  Husband was out and the cellphones didn&#8217;t work &#8212; not so much fun, that.  Glad everyone is OK at your end!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Kirk&#039;s comment, and [koff] i voted for W. the second time, eyes wide open.  Could have voted otherwise, didn&#039;t, ain&#039;t losing sleep over it.  But if the Stone movie is anywhere near as entertainingly interesting about the intersection of politics and people as &quot;Primary Colors&quot; was, i&#039;ll go.  Oliver did ok with &quot;Platoon&quot; but it was no &quot;Deer Hunter&quot; or &quot;ApocNow,&quot; and &quot;JFK&quot; was embarrassing on so many levels i skipped &quot;Nixon&quot; and then was startled by &quot;WTC.&quot;  I love Ron Rosenbaum&#039;s take on Oliver Stone (google the two names in quotes and check out the story, involving urinals and lots of yelling).

What i don&#039;t get is that i went looking for &quot;Wag the Dog&quot; the other day, and can&#039;t find it on DVD anywhere, and don&#039;t want to plug in the cords for the VHS again.

If you really want a view on politics and people and procedure, get &quot;The Milagro Beanfield War,&quot; which is the world in picturesque miniature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Kirk&#8217;s comment, and [koff] i voted for W. the second time, eyes wide open.  Could have voted otherwise, didn&#8217;t, ain&#8217;t losing sleep over it.  But if the Stone movie is anywhere near as entertainingly interesting about the intersection of politics and people as &#8220;Primary Colors&#8221; was, i&#8217;ll go.  Oliver did ok with &#8220;Platoon&#8221; but it was no &#8220;Deer Hunter&#8221; or &#8220;ApocNow,&#8221; and &#8220;JFK&#8221; was embarrassing on so many levels i skipped &#8220;Nixon&#8221; and then was startled by &#8220;WTC.&#8221;  I love Ron Rosenbaum&#8217;s take on Oliver Stone (google the two names in quotes and check out the story, involving urinals and lots of yelling).</p>
<p>What i don&#8217;t get is that i went looking for &#8220;Wag the Dog&#8221; the other day, and can&#8217;t find it on DVD anywhere, and don&#8217;t want to plug in the cords for the VHS again.</p>
<p>If you really want a view on politics and people and procedure, get &#8220;The Milagro Beanfield War,&#8221; which is the world in picturesque miniature.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200020</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del...caught that film late last week on cable.  John Turturro as Pete was great.  Almost as good as Roberto Benigni and Tom Waits and John Lurie were in &quot;Down by Law&quot; (1986) in the prison-escape-big-adventure genre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del&#8230;caught that film late last week on cable.  John Turturro as Pete was great.  Almost as good as Roberto Benigni and Tom Waits and John Lurie were in &#8220;Down by Law&#8221; (1986) in the prison-escape-big-adventure genre.</p>
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		<title>By: LAMary</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAMary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine
We don&#039;t have radio or TV here in my office and the phones, cell phones and internet didn&#039;t work for what seemed a long time. It seemed long because my kids are home and I&#039;m ten miles away. I didn&#039;t know then where the epicenter was or how large the quake was. I confess I started crying when I was finally able to reach them and find out everything was ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine<br />
We don&#8217;t have radio or TV here in my office and the phones, cell phones and internet didn&#8217;t work for what seemed a long time. It seemed long because my kids are home and I&#8217;m ten miles away. I didn&#8217;t know then where the epicenter was or how large the quake was. I confess I started crying when I was finally able to reach them and find out everything was ok.</p>
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		<title>By: del</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200017</link>
		<dc:creator>del</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spelled prosaic right but messed up sycophant a few days ago.  Is it misspell or mispell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spelled prosaic right but messed up sycophant a few days ago.  Is it misspell or mispell?</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/07/29/oliver-stones-revenge/#comment-200016</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary &amp; Danny, I definitely felt the quake here in Pasadena.  The curious thing I think y&#039;all might find interesting:  I didn&#039;t turn on the TV (so-called) news to find out the magnitude, epicenter, damage, etc.  I just went right to the USGS website, which was updated within 5 minutes.  I don&#039;t need video of grocers in their shops with push brooms and some broken jars.  This might be one of the things killing the MSM -- folks don&#039;t need interpretation and talking heads when the facts are readily available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary &amp; Danny, I definitely felt the quake here in Pasadena.  The curious thing I think y&#8217;all might find interesting:  I didn&#8217;t turn on the TV (so-called) news to find out the magnitude, epicenter, damage, etc.  I just went right to the USGS website, which was updated within 5 minutes.  I don&#8217;t need video of grocers in their shops with push brooms and some broken jars.  This might be one of the things killing the MSM &#8212; folks don&#8217;t need interpretation and talking heads when the facts are readily available.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>del....you mispelled prozac.

Sue. Chill. Nevermind all that. This is why I am loved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>del&#8230;.you mispelled prozac.</p>
<p>Sue. Chill. Nevermind all that. This is why I am loved.</p>
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		<title>By: del</title>
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		<dc:creator>del</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Dexter.  The deeper and more troubling question is how W. got re-elected.  Forever changes the tenor of the debate over the merits of our &quot;democracy.&quot;
Sue, don&#039;t let Danny get your goat.  He rebuts with humor when the prosaic truth proves problematic.  Give him points for creativity.  Soggy underpants?  Maybe Danny liked George Clooney&#039;s portrayal as one of the Soggy Bottom Boys in O Brother, Where Art Thou?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Dexter.  The deeper and more troubling question is how W. got re-elected.  Forever changes the tenor of the debate over the merits of our &#8220;democracy.&#8221;<br />
Sue, don&#8217;t let Danny get your goat.  He rebuts with humor when the prosaic truth proves problematic.  Give him points for creativity.  Soggy underpants?  Maybe Danny liked George Clooney&#8217;s portrayal as one of the Soggy Bottom Boys in O Brother, Where Art Thou?</p>
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