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		<title>By: Bruce Fields</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/08/25/pick-my-braaaaaain/comment-page-1/#comment-205097</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The car was as far to the right as it was allowed."

No, the car should have actually been in the bike lane at that point; the &lt;a href="http://www.sfbike.org/?bikelane_right_turns"&gt;correct way&lt;/a&gt; to turn right across a bike lane is to check over your right shoulder, merge right when it's clear, and continue in the bike lane (well, as far in it as you'll fit) until the turn.  Just as if the bike lane was any right-turn lane.

Otherwise, as you say, there's an obvious conflict.

That said, I can't recall if I've *ever* seen a motorist do that--most people see the bike lane much as they would a shoulder, and just turn across it at the last minute.  So for a cyclist I'd actually recommend merging left into the rightmost traffic lane before going straight through--again, as if the bike lane were a dedicated right-turn lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The car was as far to the right as it was allowed.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the car should have actually been in the bike lane at that point; the <a href="http://www.sfbike.org/?bikelane_right_turns">correct way</a> to turn right across a bike lane is to check over your right shoulder, merge right when it&#8217;s clear, and continue in the bike lane (well, as far in it as you&#8217;ll fit) until the turn.  Just as if the bike lane was any right-turn lane.</p>
<p>Otherwise, as you say, there&#8217;s an obvious conflict.</p>
<p>That said, I can&#8217;t recall if I&#8217;ve *ever* seen a motorist do that&#8211;most people see the bike lane much as they would a shoulder, and just turn across it at the last minute.  So for a cyclist I&#8217;d actually recommend merging left into the rightmost traffic lane before going straight through&#8211;again, as if the bike lane were a dedicated right-turn lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally Wilson</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/08/25/pick-my-braaaaaain/comment-page-1/#comment-204968</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, I have long known that hamsters were the zombie spawn of all that is truly evile in this world.  Marketed by corporate pet stores as "cute and lovable," they have always  won the hearts of those who are weakest amongst us.  It is a conspiracy worthy of a movie (a B movie, I hope).
 
The savage hamsters from the pet stores have always known me to be a rat/mouse lover, and I can't even get close to them without their eyes turning red and their cacophonous hissing burning my eardrums.  Bitten?  Yes, and I have the antidote to savage hamster zombie'ism!  I have never met a hamster that wasn't merely a poseur of loveable fluffiness and political correctness (and sharp teeth).
 
Just so you know...  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, I have long known that hamsters were the zombie spawn of all that is truly evile in this world.  Marketed by corporate pet stores as &#8220;cute and lovable,&#8221; they have always  won the hearts of those who are weakest amongst us.  It is a conspiracy worthy of a movie (a B movie, I hope).</p>
<p>The savage hamsters from the pet stores have always known me to be a rat/mouse lover, and I can&#8217;t even get close to them without their eyes turning red and their cacophonous hissing burning my eardrums.  Bitten?  Yes, and I have the antidote to savage hamster zombie&#8217;ism!  I have never met a hamster that wasn&#8217;t merely a poseur of loveable fluffiness and political correctness (and sharp teeth).</p>
<p>Just so you know&#8230;  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Terry WAlter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/08/25/pick-my-braaaaaain/comment-page-1/#comment-204965</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry WAlter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABCs' Brian Ross had a story on the lobbyist parties around the convention, which he wasn't allowed into. The Uh-bama camps' line was that they would have liked to have done things differently, but they didn't have enough time to change them. 'Change you can believe in'. Riiiight. The only change they're aiming for is the name on the check. My brother lives in Denver; he had the right idea. Left town while the liars club meets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABCs&#8217; Brian Ross had a story on the lobbyist parties around the convention, which he wasn&#8217;t allowed into. The Uh-bama camps&#8217; line was that they would have liked to have done things differently, but they didn&#8217;t have enough time to change them. &#8216;Change you can believe in&#8217;. Riiiight. The only change they&#8217;re aiming for is the name on the check. My brother lives in Denver; he had the right idea. Left town while the liars club meets.</p>
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		<title>By: beb</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/08/25/pick-my-braaaaaain/comment-page-1/#comment-204956</link>
		<dc:creator>beb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biking was discussed on Washington Monthly a month back or so.  One bike adovcate related an incident that happened to him once. He was riding in a bike lane during a rush hour when he nearly got clipped by a car making a right hand turn at an intersection which he was going straight through.  This guy felt that the car was totally at faul but just from listening to his story you could see several troubling issues. The bike lane was on the ride sideof the street, otherwise known as the blind side of a car. The biker was traveling fast. The car was as far to the right as it was allowed. The car had the right to make a right hand turn at that intersection. The car driver probably checked for pedestrians on the sidewalk, drivers potentially plowing through a red light on his left. He may even have looked behind him but bike move fast and are hard to see compared to cars. It's like creating a one-way street without putting up "One-Way" and "Do Not Enter" signed. The traffic designers were just asking for trouble.

I don't know how you can mix bike lanes with traffic lanes without problems like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biking was discussed on Washington Monthly a month back or so.  One bike adovcate related an incident that happened to him once. He was riding in a bike lane during a rush hour when he nearly got clipped by a car making a right hand turn at an intersection which he was going straight through.  This guy felt that the car was totally at faul but just from listening to his story you could see several troubling issues. The bike lane was on the ride sideof the street, otherwise known as the blind side of a car. The biker was traveling fast. The car was as far to the right as it was allowed. The car had the right to make a right hand turn at that intersection. The car driver probably checked for pedestrians on the sidewalk, drivers potentially plowing through a red light on his left. He may even have looked behind him but bike move fast and are hard to see compared to cars. It&#8217;s like creating a one-way street without putting up &#8220;One-Way&#8221; and &#8220;Do Not Enter&#8221; signed. The traffic designers were just asking for trouble.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how you can mix bike lanes with traffic lanes without problems like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wetzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Wetzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Cars and pedestrians pay nothing, or nearly nothing, for their momentum."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think kinetic energy would have been more to the writer's point, in terms of the economics of stopping and starting.  Pedestrians and cyclists pay for theirs in oatmeal and apples; and it's cheap for pedestrians because their velocity is quite low, and KE goes as the square of velocity.  Cars, on the other hand, pay at the rate of about four bucks a gallon, give or take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;Cars and pedestrians pay nothing, or nearly nothing, for their momentum.&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I think kinetic energy would have been more to the writer&#8217;s point, in terms of the economics of stopping and starting.  Pedestrians and cyclists pay for theirs in oatmeal and apples; and it&#8217;s cheap for pedestrians because their velocity is quite low, and KE goes as the square of velocity.  Cars, on the other hand, pay at the rate of about four bucks a gallon, give or take.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy D.</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/08/25/pick-my-braaaaaain/comment-page-1/#comment-204949</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a film made with zombie sock puppets? http://outofcharacter.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a film made with zombie sock puppets? <a href="http://outofcharacter.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://outofcharacter.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2008/08/25/pick-my-braaaaaain/comment-page-1/#comment-204923</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zombie Bike Messengers: Couriers of death.

Just trying to tie it all together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zombie Bike Messengers: Couriers of death.</p>
<p>Just trying to tie it all together.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not planning on voting against Biden, but for McCain (or Dark Lord of the Zombies With White Hair).

And Biden on the ticket is reassuring to some of us who aren't voting for the ticket, but understand they may just prevail in the Electoral College this December.  (And the Dems get bonus points for putting the Navajo/Dineh Codetalkers up as the Color Guard!  Plus the kids are delightful.  Everyone else is planning on watching C-SPAN obsessively the next few days, right?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not planning on voting against Biden, but for McCain (or Dark Lord of the Zombies With White Hair).</p>
<p>And Biden on the ticket is reassuring to some of us who aren&#8217;t voting for the ticket, but understand they may just prevail in the Electoral College this December.  (And the Dems get bonus points for putting the Navajo/Dineh Codetalkers up as the Color Guard!  Plus the kids are delightful.  Everyone else is planning on watching C-SPAN obsessively the next few days, right?)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought the whole idea about bicycling was to get exercise. I'd think you'd relish those full stops, and get the most out of them.

But maybe it's all about the goofy Lance Armstrong outfits.

(shrug)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought the whole idea about bicycling was to get exercise. I&#8217;d think you&#8217;d relish those full stops, and get the most out of them.</p>
<p>But maybe it&#8217;s all about the goofy Lance Armstrong outfits.</p>
<p>(shrug)</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"a male cyclist was stopped at a light in Midtown, and had a great sense of balance…totally stopped and balancing , feet on pedals, waiting for the light to change. This was good…the bike had narrow tires. When I got home I tried it with a mountain bike with wide tires…I lasted three seconds, tops. Some people…how do they do that stuff?"

The key words you're looking for are "track stand."  A google search on that and you'll find all the instructions and videos you could want.

It's said to be easier on a fixed-gear bike, since that lets you move the back wheel either way with the pedals (whereas a bike with a freewheel mechanism will only let you pedal it forwards).  I agree, it'd be fun to learn!  I never have.

The "should stop bicyclists stop a stop signs if there's nobody around" questions strike me as sort of empty.  The interesting question to me is "how do you know if there's nobody around"?  And the one thing I feel really strongly about is that people be on the lookout for cyclists and pedestrians, not just cars--it's no fun stepping out into the street at a stop sign and having a cyclist woosh past your nose....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a male cyclist was stopped at a light in Midtown, and had a great sense of balance…totally stopped and balancing , feet on pedals, waiting for the light to change. This was good…the bike had narrow tires. When I got home I tried it with a mountain bike with wide tires…I lasted three seconds, tops. Some people…how do they do that stuff?&#8221;</p>
<p>The key words you&#8217;re looking for are &#8220;track stand.&#8221;  A google search on that and you&#8217;ll find all the instructions and videos you could want.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s said to be easier on a fixed-gear bike, since that lets you move the back wheel either way with the pedals (whereas a bike with a freewheel mechanism will only let you pedal it forwards).  I agree, it&#8217;d be fun to learn!  I never have.</p>
<p>The &#8220;should stop bicyclists stop a stop signs if there&#8217;s nobody around&#8221; questions strike me as sort of empty.  The interesting question to me is &#8220;how do you know if there&#8217;s nobody around&#8221;?  And the one thing I feel really strongly about is that people be on the lookout for cyclists and pedestrians, not just cars&#8211;it&#8217;s no fun stepping out into the street at a stop sign and having a cyclist woosh past your nose&#8230;.</p>
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