Comments on: Surfacing.

By: Jolene

Jolene — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:53:00 +0000

Interesting link, Brian. I was just looking at Peggy Noonan's column re the debate in the WSJ and concluded that she has lost her mind. Of course, others have noted previously noted that this might be true, so I don't count myself too clever for noticing. Still, she starts out singing Palin's praises, seems to notice, along the way, the shallowness of some of her responses and the falseness of her folksy demeanor, and ends by concluding that the genius of Tina Fey's portrayal of Palin reflects a kind of love for her. Really, Peggy should make sure she gets a good night's sleep before commenting on major public events.

By: brian stouder

brian stouder — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:53:11 +0000

Nice link, cz.

It lead me to this one, from a fellow on the floor at the debate, which I found fascinating

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aj-bockelman/what-i-saw-inside-the-deb_b_131494.html

an excerpt

On topics where it was clear she knew the talking points, she kept looking into the camera with a big smile. On foreign policy and other points where she gave light answers, she was intently reviewing her notes on the podium. I’m not sure how much things came across on camera, but each time that Palin made a cute move — twice winking at the camera, giving a ‘shout out’, claiming to be a maverick or painting herself as outside the beltway — there was a visceral reaction from the people in the room. Even from the Republicans seated next to me. The Republicans I spoke with immediately afterwards felt very somber about her performance.

By: coozledad

coozledad — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:33:44 +0000

Why in hell do they keep letting that embalmed trophy Cokie Roberts out of her packing material? If I had kids I’d be mighty pissed that I had to explain to them that life doesn’t always end so brutally.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200810030001

By: brian stouder

brian stouder — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:18:31 +0000

“White Flag of Surrender’.

That phrase made me laugh out loud! If we take it seriously, the followup question — which would be breezily ignored by the governor — might be “if Obama’s policy pronouncements equal a “White Flag of Surrender” to you, what would Victory in Iraq look like to you?”

and anyway, as the Proprietress informed us yesterday, the only “white flags of surrender” that got waved yesterday were by the McCain-Palin campaign, in the great state of Michigan!

Huzzah!! Huzzah!!

By: Dexter

Dexter — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:40:10 +0000

“Nuke-U-Ler” never bothered me…what bugged me more was old Ronald Reagan saying “guvv-mint”.
This was Palin’s brightest hour, true. She’s good at this sort of thing, as she is bad at one-on-one interviews, as we all know.
She performed exactly as I expected, making the outrageous claim that Barack Obama will surrender in Iraq. Biden called her on that one…one thing anyone who actually follows the news knows is that Barack Obama is no dove, he believes strongly in the tired old “policeman of the world” outlook and is promising a full-scale occupation of Afghanistan as soon as possible.
He and Edwards both proposed the “station US troops out of Iraq and into Kuwait to be on high alert”…and Obama never said a word of closing that embarrassing US Embassy in Iraq.
So, no…there was no winner of this disappointing debate, it just cemented what liars the repugs are , twisting their corporate lackeyism into a jumbled platform they want us to climb aboard…good for Joe Biden for shooting her bullshit down. Trickle-down economics does not work…Reagan said it would and he lied too .
McCain has abandoned Michigan for good…THAT is the big news in my book.
You Hoosiers know where Waterloo, Indiana is…US6 & I-69…years ago Waterloo had the CBS TV affiliate, WINT-TV, which became Channel 15, WANE in the 1950’s.
I just found out that Ronald Reagan used to hang around Waterloo and use the station: from interviews my brother did for a story about the murals by artist John Rea that have existed for 70 years on the walls of a Waterloo tavern,

“Ronald Reagan used to come to Waterloo and do promos for G.E. at the local TV station.
He would always stop by, get a ham sandwich and a bottle of beer, and play on the shuffleboard table. My dad always said Mr. Reagan was a nice and personable gentleman.”—Chuck Smith, son of tavern owner Toots Smith, of Smitty’s Tavern, now Ketch Kan Tavern .

By: del

del — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:12:28 +0000

I am starting to get very pissed off. Time for bed.

By: del

del — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:08:55 +0000

Some stand alone vacuousness which starts with a baseball cliche, then “borrows” from Ronald Reagan’s silly debate rejoinder to Jimmy Carter, then includes the Stuart Smalleyism “doggone it,” some redundancy, and ends with vainglorious references to God:
PALIN: Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You prefaced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education and I’m glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?

By: del

del — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:54:58 +0000

Jolene, the stump speech should include the following:
George W. Bush, John McCain — whaddya expect from a couple of “Mavericks?”

By: del

del — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:47:22 +0000

Here’s some debate stuff on global warming:
PALIN: … But there are real changes going on in our climate. And I don’t want to argue about the causes. What I want to argue about is, how are we going to get there to positively affect the impacts? …
IFILL: Senator, what is true and what is false about the causes?
BIDEN: Well, I think it is manmade. I think it’s clearly manmade. And, look, this probably explains the biggest fundamental difference between John McCain and Barack Obama and Sarah Palin and Joe Biden — Gov. Palin and Joe Biden.
If you don’t understand what the cause is, it’s virtually impossible to come up with a solution.

By: Jolene

Jolene — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:17:06 +0000

Any suggestions as to what commercials or stump speech lines will come from the debate?

My nomination: Something along the lines of “John McCain and Sarah Palin think it’s fine if teachers get their reward in heaven, but Barack Obama and Joe Biden want to increase teacher salaries here on earth.”