Comments on: I smell Oscar. http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=i-smell-oscar one writer's daily download Thu, 24 May 2012 02:03:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jolene http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245093 Jolene Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:42:40 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245093 James Fallows, who is a pilot and aviation analyst as well as a writer, is keeping track of details re <a href="http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/03/montana_tragedy_update.php" rel="nofollow">the Montana crash</a> as they emerge. He has links to several interesting articles re the people, what witnesses said, and what NTSB people are saying (not much). James Fallows, who is a pilot and aviation analyst as well as a writer, is keeping track of details re the Montana crash as they emerge. He has links to several interesting articles re the people, what witnesses said, and what NTSB people are saying (not much).

]]> By: Quote of the day (not Tim Geithner edition) « Blog on the Run: Reloaded http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245092 Quote of the day (not Tim Geithner edition) « Blog on the Run: Reloaded Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:26:24 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245092 [...] Quote of the day (not Tim Geithner edition) Filed under: Quote Of The Day, You're doing WHAT with my money?? — Lex @ 10:24 pm Tags: AIG, Nancy Nall Nancy Nall: [...] [...] Quote of the day (not Tim Geithner edition) Filed under: Quote Of The Day, You’re doing WHAT with my money?? — Lex @ 10:24 pm Tags: AIG, Nancy Nall Nancy Nall: [...]

]]> By: Joe Kobiela http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245091 Joe Kobiela Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:08:16 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245091 It is way early to speculate on the Montana crash, but a Pilatus is a BIG single engine turbo prop, The cabin is around the same size as a king air. They can be outfitted for 12 passengers. The youngest kids would have probably been on the parents lap,which is legal, from what I have heard thru the grape vine, is he had fuel on board and had taken off and landed at another airport. Could have had a c&g problem but I doubt it, he diverted to Butte which is a half hour closer, I wonder if he was feeling sick and then had a heart attack.The way the witness said the plane was acting, it is a possibility. As far as the fed ex plane, it looked like he got caught in a down draft, due to wind shear, bounced and had his cargo shift to the rear causing the plane to climb and then stall. Cross wind is a possibility. One thing to remember with a plane crash is never listen to the media, very rarely due they get it right. Pilot Joe It is way early to speculate on the Montana crash, but a Pilatus is a BIG single engine turbo prop, The cabin is around the same size as a king air. They can be outfitted for 12 passengers. The youngest kids would have probably been on the parents lap,which is legal, from what I have heard thru the grape vine, is he had fuel on board and had taken off and landed at another airport. Could have had a c&g problem but I doubt it, he diverted to Butte which is a half hour closer, I wonder if he was feeling sick and then had a heart attack.The way the witness said the plane was acting, it is a possibility. As far as the fed ex plane, it looked like he got caught in a down draft, due to wind shear, bounced and had his cargo shift to the rear causing the plane to climb and then stall. Cross wind is a possibility.
One thing to remember with a plane crash is never listen to the media, very rarely due they get it right.
Pilot Joe

]]> By: Jolene http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245090 Jolene Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:04:09 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245090 Lord, there were three families on that plane. Two of the women were sisters and, between them, they had five children. Somewhere, there's a couple who lost their two daughters, two sons-in-law, and five grandchildren. The things life brings. Lord, there were three families on that plane. Two of the women were sisters and, between them, they had five children. Somewhere, there’s a couple who lost their two daughters, two sons-in-law, and five grandchildren. The things life brings.

]]> By: MarkH http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245088 MarkH Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:27:27 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245088 I'll leave further commenting to Joe K., but it does appear that overloading was a culprit in the Montana plane crash. Which might have led to unintended fuel shortage as the plane worked harder to maintain altitude. More here from a local writer: http://www.newwest.net/city/article/butte_plane_crash_victims_were_headed_for_ski_vacation/C396/L396/ I’ll leave further commenting to Joe K., but it does appear that overloading was a culprit in the Montana plane crash. Which might have led to unintended fuel shortage as the plane worked harder to maintain altitude. More here from a local writer:

http://www.newwest.net/city/article/butte_plane_crash_victims_were_headed_for_ski_vacation/C396/L396/

]]> By: Jim H http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245082 Jim H Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:01:12 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245082 Well, thanks to Jeff B, I couldn't get Aliotta, Haynes and Jeremiah outta my head for most of the afternoon. Then Alex mentions overzealous parking enforcement and it's Steve Goodman's ode to Lincoln Towing. Now with talk of the upcoming baseball season, I'll probably be asking "Do they still play the Blues in Chicago..." all night long. Jeff - I used to enjoy County Stadium too, and the food was a large part of that. Well, thanks to Jeff B, I couldn’t get Aliotta, Haynes and Jeremiah outta my head for most of the afternoon. Then Alex mentions overzealous parking enforcement and it’s Steve Goodman’s ode to Lincoln Towing. Now with talk of the upcoming baseball season, I’ll probably be asking “Do they still play the Blues in Chicago…” all night long. Jeff – I used to enjoy County Stadium too, and the food was a large part of that.

]]> By: Dexter http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245079 Dexter Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:48:18 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245079 jeffborden: I also ride to games, but I have never lived in a MLB city...I drive and park for free in some city park or use legal street parking , sometimes a few miles from the stadium, and I ride and lock my bike. Do NOT try just chaining up anywhere near Progressive Field in Cleveland, though. They installed a few bike racks near the Ninth Street entrance (and around towards Quicken Loans Arena) and they will impound any bicycles chained to poles and fences...I was warned sternly by Cleveland cops about this. For Sox games, I park the car in a free lot on Halsted and ride and lock the bike right beside the main entrance. I lock onto a railing. For Cubs games, I park near Lincoln Park on a free parking street and lock right beside Wrigley, just anywhere...lots of choices. In Detroit, I park near old Tiger Stadium, ride up Woodward from Michigan Ave. Bikes are OK to chain to a nice wrought-iron fence. In Cleveland, on Saturdays there is free street parking by The Flats and then a nice steep hill to climb as you head to the ballpark. I still haven't tried my system at GABP in Cincinnati. For UM football games, parking is free and plentiful in Burns Park and then a short ride to stadium. Only once did everything go to hell: I had a bike chained to a light pole on Plum Street, right across from Tiger Stadium. I used an industrial "Yale" lock I bought from a catalog at work...extra large and seemingly safe. I also had bought a thick link-chain and had painstakingly heat-treated it myself at work , sent it along with a load of parts, and it had a very intensely hard case built up. "They" stole the lock, chain, and bike and never left a trace. Once in Cleveland I caught three very young thieves trying to remove my saddle, but I had ridden an old cruiser that day, and the seat post was bolted down tight, and they apparently were adept at stealing only quick-release saddles and posts. They ran in three directions when I yelled at them...very quickly and very well orchestrated...they were definitely experienced. jeffborden: I also ride to games, but I have never lived in a MLB city…I drive and park for free in some city park or use legal street parking , sometimes a few miles from the stadium, and I ride and lock my bike.
Do NOT try just chaining up anywhere near Progressive Field in Cleveland, though.
They installed a few bike racks near the Ninth Street entrance (and around towards Quicken Loans Arena) and they will impound any bicycles chained to poles and fences…I was warned sternly by Cleveland cops about this.
For Sox games, I park the car in a free lot on Halsted and ride and lock the bike right beside the main entrance. I lock onto a railing.
For Cubs games, I park near Lincoln Park on a free parking street and lock right beside Wrigley, just anywhere…lots of choices.
In Detroit, I park near old Tiger Stadium, ride up Woodward from Michigan Ave. Bikes are OK to chain to a nice wrought-iron fence.
In Cleveland, on Saturdays there is free street parking by The Flats and then a nice steep hill to climb as you head to the ballpark.
I still haven’t tried my system at GABP in Cincinnati.
For UM football games, parking is free and plentiful in Burns Park and then a short ride to stadium.
Only once did everything go to hell: I had a bike chained to a light pole on Plum Street, right across from Tiger Stadium. I used an industrial “Yale” lock I bought from a catalog at work…extra large and seemingly safe. I also had bought a thick link-chain and had painstakingly heat-treated it myself at work , sent it along with a load of parts, and it had a very intensely hard case built up.
“They” stole the lock, chain, and bike and never left a trace.
Once in Cleveland I caught three very young thieves trying to remove my saddle, but I had ridden an old cruiser that day, and the seat post was bolted down tight, and they apparently were adept at stealing only quick-release saddles and posts. They ran in three directions when I yelled at them…very quickly and very well orchestrated…they were definitely experienced.

]]> By: Sue http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245077 Sue Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:22:22 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245077 I saw the Zambrano no-hitter there last year. We scrambled to get the tickets because it came up so fast. It was the most fun I have ever had at a ball game; all Cub fans with several Brewers fans there and oh yeah a few fans from the opposing team. It was like the biggest living room in the world, everywhere you looked was "family". I think of a comparison of Wrigley and Sox Park (sorry, can't remember what it's called these days) with Miller Park in the same way as a comparison of O'Hare and Mitchell. Miller Park/Mitchell are accessible and downright cozy compared to their Chicago counterparts. I saw the Zambrano no-hitter there last year. We scrambled to get the tickets because it came up so fast. It was the most fun I have ever had at a ball game; all Cub fans with several Brewers fans there and oh yeah a few fans from the opposing team. It was like the biggest living room in the world, everywhere you looked was “family”.
I think of a comparison of Wrigley and Sox Park (sorry, can’t remember what it’s called these days) with Miller Park in the same way as a comparison of O’Hare and Mitchell. Miller Park/Mitchell are accessible and downright cozy compared to their Chicago counterparts.

]]> By: jeff borden http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245071 jeff borden Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:47:09 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245071 Sue, Miller Park is a great stadium. I'm probably in a minority for having enjoyed the old County Stadium too, which sold super cheap brauts with red sauce, or super cheap compared to Chicago. I remember strolling around the stadium and coming upon a display of some Hank Aaron memorabilia behind a glass case on the wall. Included were Hank's rubber shower thongs, which we were helpfully told he wore for XX number of seasons while with the old Milwaukee Braves. That said, Miller is a great place for baseball. I will have to check out the Chisox-Brewers, which was a great feud until the league realigned and put the Brewers back in the NL. This is the year when the NL Central is playing the AL Central in intra-league play, so I'm working to get tickets for the Indians vs. Cubs in June. I generally root for the Cubs, of course, but old loyalties die hard, so I'll be there with my Chief Wahoo attire. Sue,
Miller Park is a great stadium. I’m probably in a minority for having enjoyed the old County Stadium too, which sold super cheap brauts with red sauce, or super cheap compared to Chicago. I remember strolling around the stadium and coming upon a display of some Hank Aaron memorabilia behind a glass case on the wall. Included were Hank’s rubber shower thongs, which we were helpfully told he wore for XX number of seasons while with the old Milwaukee Braves.

That said, Miller is a great place for baseball. I will have to check out the Chisox-Brewers, which was a great feud until the league realigned and put the Brewers back in the NL. This is the year when the NL Central is playing the AL Central in intra-league play, so I’m working to get tickets for the Indians vs. Cubs in June. I generally root for the Cubs, of course, but old loyalties die hard, so I’ll be there with my Chief Wahoo attire.

]]> By: Sue http://nancynall.com/2009/03/23/i-smell-oscar/#comment-245069 Sue Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:17:56 +0000 http://nancynall.com/?p=3599#comment-245069 Jeff and Alex: Or you could head to Wrigley North (Miller Park). Too bad all the Cubs games are already sold out, but there are still some tickets available for the Sunday game of the Brewers/White Sox series (June 14). We have a crowd of 15 meeting there. We will be wearing a variety of Sox, Cubs and Brewers apparel and will travel in a pack and protect each other. Jeff and Alex: Or you could head to Wrigley North (Miller Park). Too bad all the Cubs games are already sold out, but there are still some tickets available for the Sunday game of the Brewers/White Sox series (June 14). We have a crowd of 15 meeting there. We will be wearing a variety of Sox, Cubs and Brewers apparel and will travel in a pack and protect each other.

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