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		<title>By: Random notes from a Friday night dinner &#171; Whipped Cream Difficulties</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random notes from a Friday night dinner &#171; Whipped Cream Difficulties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out Arakawa and Gins were two of Bernie Madoff&#8217;s clients. (That second link is by way of Nancy Nall, who has some pungent things to say on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: coozledad</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/03/25/the-bankruptcy-of-art/#comment-245444</link>
		<dc:creator>coozledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Hope Franklin is dead. I used to see him around the campus at Duke when I&#039;d go to the library. You could tell the kids just loved him.
I&#039;m glad he lived to see Obama elected.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/photofeatures/2009/03/john-hope-franklin.php?img=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Hope Franklin is dead. I used to see him around the campus at Duke when I&#8217;d go to the library. You could tell the kids just loved him.<br />
I&#8217;m glad he lived to see Obama elected.<br />
<a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/photofeatures/2009/03/john-hope-franklin.php?img=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/photofeatures/2009/03/john-hope-franklin.php?img=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/03/25/the-bankruptcy-of-art/#comment-245443</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should give Michael Steele a large box of very chewy yeast donuts without a glass of milk, and tell him to just start eating . . . and don&#039;t talk with your mouth full.

Now -- spring break + rain + young boys = insanely loud &quot;science&quot; museum.  Pray for my ears, and my patience.  Adios!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should give Michael Steele a large box of very chewy yeast donuts without a glass of milk, and tell him to just start eating . . . and don&#8217;t talk with your mouth full.</p>
<p>Now &#8212; spring break + rain + young boys = insanely loud &#8220;science&#8221; museum.  Pray for my ears, and my patience.  Adios!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waffle House...mmmmmmmmmm.  The nearest one here is just over the Pennsylvania border on I-78.  Lack of Waffle Houses and Sonics are just two more reasons why New England blows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waffle House&#8230;mmmmmmmmmm.  The nearest one here is just over the Pennsylvania border on I-78.  Lack of Waffle Houses and Sonics are just two more reasons why New England blows.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/03/25/the-bankruptcy-of-art/#comment-245438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an interesting counterfactual to consider, if Clinton had resigned (not been impeached, a mistake on many levels), as many of us thought would have been the proper course for Hounddog Bill.

Al Gore would have become President, picking up the advantage of incumbency, a known asset even beyond being &quot;obvious successor,&quot; perhaps even showing a bit of leadership and statesmanship during his brief tenure.

Arguably, that would have given Gore an insuperable lead over the fellow who would narrowly beat him (ok, in the electoral college, but you know what i mean), meaning that on 9-12, Al Gore would have had to figure out what to do next, and Joe Lieberman would have been in the secure undisclosed location.

Meanwhile, now redeemed ex-President Clinton would have been a more useable asset for international diplomacy. Mrs. Clinton would . . . well, my wife thinks she had the NY senate option figured out by &#039;93 or so, and that was gonna happen regardless.  Can&#039;t see how she doesn&#039;t beat Lazio under a Gore admin as well as under Bush, so that alternate reality looks the same, but the real wild cards are Iraq, and energy policy.  Of course, i don&#039;t see any scenario that actual works any differently in outcomes with a Gore admin -- it&#039;s the politics of it that play out differently, which is a much more volatile blend of reagents, and i can&#039;t work out that kind of math in my head.

But you can project some pretty amazing outlines of history starting with Bill Clinton resigning, none of which mean &quot;and you never hear from Clinton again.&quot;

Hey, JeffB, didn&#039;t mean to leave a mark. My &quot;bite me&quot; is generally meant, as well. Your distinction is appreciated, but i still think the general canard about conservatives always trying to &quot;cut&quot; school lunch or child nutrition programs is a goof, and a mean-spirited one at that.  As for the abortion/death penalty thing, that&#039;s a closer split than most realize, with the Southern Baptists still working out their theology and politics on this one (hate to tell &#039;em, but they&#039;re wrong, they just don&#039;t know it yet - if abortion&#039;s bad, death penalty is bad, as well as stupid).

If you want a shock, google &quot;southern baptists,&quot; &quot;abortion&quot;, and &quot;1971.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an interesting counterfactual to consider, if Clinton had resigned (not been impeached, a mistake on many levels), as many of us thought would have been the proper course for Hounddog Bill.</p>
<p>Al Gore would have become President, picking up the advantage of incumbency, a known asset even beyond being &#8220;obvious successor,&#8221; perhaps even showing a bit of leadership and statesmanship during his brief tenure.</p>
<p>Arguably, that would have given Gore an insuperable lead over the fellow who would narrowly beat him (ok, in the electoral college, but you know what i mean), meaning that on 9-12, Al Gore would have had to figure out what to do next, and Joe Lieberman would have been in the secure undisclosed location.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, now redeemed ex-President Clinton would have been a more useable asset for international diplomacy. Mrs. Clinton would . . . well, my wife thinks she had the NY senate option figured out by &#8217;93 or so, and that was gonna happen regardless.  Can&#8217;t see how she doesn&#8217;t beat Lazio under a Gore admin as well as under Bush, so that alternate reality looks the same, but the real wild cards are Iraq, and energy policy.  Of course, i don&#8217;t see any scenario that actual works any differently in outcomes with a Gore admin &#8212; it&#8217;s the politics of it that play out differently, which is a much more volatile blend of reagents, and i can&#8217;t work out that kind of math in my head.</p>
<p>But you can project some pretty amazing outlines of history starting with Bill Clinton resigning, none of which mean &#8220;and you never hear from Clinton again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, JeffB, didn&#8217;t mean to leave a mark. My &#8220;bite me&#8221; is generally meant, as well. Your distinction is appreciated, but i still think the general canard about conservatives always trying to &#8220;cut&#8221; school lunch or child nutrition programs is a goof, and a mean-spirited one at that.  As for the abortion/death penalty thing, that&#8217;s a closer split than most realize, with the Southern Baptists still working out their theology and politics on this one (hate to tell &#8216;em, but they&#8217;re wrong, they just don&#8217;t know it yet &#8211; if abortion&#8217;s bad, death penalty is bad, as well as stupid).</p>
<p>If you want a shock, google &#8220;southern baptists,&#8221; &#8220;abortion&#8221;, and &#8220;1971.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed President Clinton&#039;s appearance on &quot;Elvis Costello With:&quot;, the interview on Sundance.  It is very entertaining, especially the story of how his mom took him to Al Hirt&#039;s club in New Orleans and Little Bill had to beg Mr. Hirt to let him in---Al Hirt did, and brought him a Coke. 
President Clinton is such an interesting man, always has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed President Clinton&#8217;s appearance on &#8220;Elvis Costello With:&#8221;, the interview on Sundance.  It is very entertaining, especially the story of how his mom took him to Al Hirt&#8217;s club in New Orleans and Little Bill had to beg Mr. Hirt to let him in&#8212;Al Hirt did, and brought him a Coke.<br />
President Clinton is such an interesting man, always has been.</p>
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		<title>By: coozledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>coozledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moe: True. We need to use this to reinforce a standard that culls the DC male from the breeding pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moe: True. We need to use this to reinforce a standard that culls the DC male from the breeding pool.</p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/03/25/the-bankruptcy-of-art/#comment-245419</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I hate to say it, but back in the day, I actually wished out loud that Clinton would resign after the impeachment, even though he was not removed from office.  His behavior, although consensual on the part of Lewinsky is considered per se sexual harassment and grounds for dismissal, had it been a Univ. of WA professor and a student, which is basically what it was given the relative placement of the participants to the activity in question.

Clinton is  a very smart man, as long as he thinks with his higher brain.  He was a frakkin&#039; idiot and as a consequence I have no respect for the man.  Don&#039;t care that he was the president.  He befouled the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I hate to say it, but back in the day, I actually wished out loud that Clinton would resign after the impeachment, even though he was not removed from office.  His behavior, although consensual on the part of Lewinsky is considered per se sexual harassment and grounds for dismissal, had it been a Univ. of WA professor and a student, which is basically what it was given the relative placement of the participants to the activity in question.</p>
<p>Clinton is  a very smart man, as long as he thinks with his higher brain.  He was a frakkin&#8217; idiot and as a consequence I have no respect for the man.  Don&#8217;t care that he was the president.  He befouled the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Gasman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MarkH,
I think your blizzard is headed our way.  You can keep the damned thing, thank you very much.  They&#039;re saying 6-12&quot; in the higher elevations, maybe 2-4&quot; here.  However, add to that the predicted gusts of up to 50 mph.  Teens for a low as well.  Travel might be interesting tomorrow.  It was 71 deg. here earlier this week.  Springtime in the Rockies can be exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarkH,<br />
I think your blizzard is headed our way.  You can keep the damned thing, thank you very much.  They&#8217;re saying 6-12&#8243; in the higher elevations, maybe 2-4&#8243; here.  However, add to that the predicted gusts of up to 50 mph.  Teens for a low as well.  Travel might be interesting tomorrow.  It was 71 deg. here earlier this week.  Springtime in the Rockies can be exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pilot Joe -

In your flying career, have you becoem familiar with Sparky Imeson?

http://www.mountainflying.com/

Mountain flying legend, his luck finally ran out:

http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090318sparky.html

He was quite the character, grew up here in Jackson Hole where his family and my wife&#039;s family were close neighbors.

AND, happy springtime, y&#039;all! 24 deg. and a blizzard to beat the band going on outside; a foot of snow expected by morning. A little odd, even for here in late March, but, it&#039;s happened before. It was 55 deg. last week.

EDIT: Here&#039;s a better version of the Imeson crash

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=ed434331-784c-4f5d-b745-4be1e9a368a7:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilot Joe -</p>
<p>In your flying career, have you becoem familiar with Sparky Imeson?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mountainflying.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mountainflying.com/</a></p>
<p>Mountain flying legend, his luck finally ran out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090318sparky.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090318sparky.html</a></p>
<p>He was quite the character, grew up here in Jackson Hole where his family and my wife&#8217;s family were close neighbors.</p>
<p>AND, happy springtime, y&#8217;all! 24 deg. and a blizzard to beat the band going on outside; a foot of snow expected by morning. A little odd, even for here in late March, but, it&#8217;s happened before. It was 55 deg. last week.</p>
<p>EDIT: Here&#8217;s a better version of the Imeson crash</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=ed434331-784c-4f5d-b745-4be1e9a368a7" rel="nofollow">http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=ed434331-784c-4f5d-b745-4be1e9a368a7</a>:</p>
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