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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-266404</link>
		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, this story ties in...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31483449/ns/us_news-life/

an excerpt -

&lt;i&gt;The U.S. Justice Department asked a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit brought by descendants of Apache leader Geronimo, whose remains were purported to be stolen long ago by members of a secret society at Yale University.&lt;/i&gt;

and

&lt;i&gt;Both Presidents Bush, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and many others in powerful government and industry positions are members of the society, which is not affiliated with the university.&lt;/i&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, this story ties in&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31483449/ns/us_news-life/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31483449/ns/us_news-life/</a></p>
<p>an excerpt -</p>
<p><i>The U.S. Justice Department asked a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit brought by descendants of Apache leader Geronimo, whose remains were purported to be stolen long ago by members of a secret society at Yale University.</i></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><i>Both Presidents Bush, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and many others in powerful government and industry positions are members of the society, which is not affiliated with the university.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-266388</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, somewhere on the back roads between Columbia City and Shipshewana there is a little park called Indian Kitchen.  According to the historical marker it was the site of a kind of last dinner before the forced march out of Indiana began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, somewhere on the back roads between Columbia City and Shipshewana there is a little park called Indian Kitchen.  According to the historical marker it was the site of a kind of last dinner before the forced march out of Indiana began.</p>
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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-266177</link>
		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I got a small air compressor for Father&#039;s day; not sure if Pam was making a slyly sarcastic point - but a handy machine nonetheless.

We went to Logansport for the weekend, and as it happens, Pam&#039;s uncle (only 56!) suddenly died Friday (another story), so that lead to a fairly somber Father&#039;s Day weekend. 

And, coincidentally, I noticed a newly-added sign on US-24 near where one turns to head to Pam&#039;s folks&#039; place. It said &quot;Potawatomi Trail of Death&quot; in large letters, with &quot;Regional Historic Trail&quot; beneath a silhouette of a (presumeably) Potawatomi dad and a mom with a baby on her back, and with a bird wheeling above them (one supposes it&#039;s a noble eagle and not a hungry vulture).

I was so taken with that, that the girls and I headed back to snap a photo - but the sign on US-24 is in a place where no sane person would stop; so we proceeded about 10 miles down the Trail of Death to another marker, in a spot further from the road, and got our photo.

It did cause me to google, and I came up with this

http://www.potawatomi-tda.org/

Anyway - it sparked discussion amongst Grant and Shelby and I, about cruelty and racism and America and Andy Jackson...Shelby asked what would have happened if a Barack Obama could have been president back then - and (after discussing the impossibility of anyone but a white male gaining the office 170 years ago) that lead the discussion to President Lincoln - and the cataclysmic upheaval that followed his election.

Anyway, I had heard of &quot;Trail or Tears&quot;, but come to think of it,  &quot;Trail of Death&quot; sounds infinitely more honest

(if Pam posts the photo, I&#039;ll link to it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I got a small air compressor for Father&#8217;s day; not sure if Pam was making a slyly sarcastic point &#8211; but a handy machine nonetheless.</p>
<p>We went to Logansport for the weekend, and as it happens, Pam&#8217;s uncle (only 56!) suddenly died Friday (another story), so that lead to a fairly somber Father&#8217;s Day weekend. </p>
<p>And, coincidentally, I noticed a newly-added sign on US-24 near where one turns to head to Pam&#8217;s folks&#8217; place. It said &#8220;Potawatomi Trail of Death&#8221; in large letters, with &#8220;Regional Historic Trail&#8221; beneath a silhouette of a (presumeably) Potawatomi dad and a mom with a baby on her back, and with a bird wheeling above them (one supposes it&#8217;s a noble eagle and not a hungry vulture).</p>
<p>I was so taken with that, that the girls and I headed back to snap a photo &#8211; but the sign on US-24 is in a place where no sane person would stop; so we proceeded about 10 miles down the Trail of Death to another marker, in a spot further from the road, and got our photo.</p>
<p>It did cause me to google, and I came up with this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.potawatomi-tda.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.potawatomi-tda.org/</a></p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; it sparked discussion amongst Grant and Shelby and I, about cruelty and racism and America and Andy Jackson&#8230;Shelby asked what would have happened if a Barack Obama could have been president back then &#8211; and (after discussing the impossibility of anyone but a white male gaining the office 170 years ago) that lead the discussion to President Lincoln &#8211; and the cataclysmic upheaval that followed his election.</p>
<p>Anyway, I had heard of &#8220;Trail or Tears&#8221;, but come to think of it,  &#8220;Trail of Death&#8221; sounds infinitely more honest</p>
<p>(if Pam posts the photo, I&#8217;ll link to it)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-266153</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto Moe&#039;s wish, and -- i got a dvd of &quot;Pride &amp; Prejudice&quot;! (The new one with Keira Knightly.)  You can tell ties are ded, dead, Dead.

My apologies to any dad who got a tie; i&#039;ll loan you my dvd when we&#039;ve watched it. Unfortunately, the way this summer is going, that will be Labor Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto Moe&#8217;s wish, and &#8212; i got a dvd of &#8220;Pride &amp; Prejudice&#8221;! (The new one with Keira Knightly.)  You can tell ties are ded, dead, Dead.</p>
<p>My apologies to any dad who got a tie; i&#8217;ll loan you my dvd when we&#8217;ve watched it. Unfortunately, the way this summer is going, that will be Labor Day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-266109</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The brilliant Tom Ricks &lt;a href=&quot;http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/06/18/my_worry_budapest_56_tehran_09&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sneers at&lt;/a&gt; Tom Pence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brilliant Tom Ricks <a href="http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/06/18/my_worry_budapest_56_tehran_09" rel="nofollow">sneers at</a> Tom Pence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=120771121205&amp;h=oDDM0&amp;u=w8WB8&amp;ref=nf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;puppycam!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another <a href="http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=120771121205&amp;h=oDDM0&amp;u=w8WB8&amp;ref=nf" rel="nofollow">puppycam!</a></p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-266015</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy father&#039;s day to all you dads out there!  Hope the weather&#039;s good and you have something cooking on the bbq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy father&#8217;s day to all you dads out there!  Hope the weather&#8217;s good and you have something cooking on the bbq.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-265938</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check the YouTube sidebar on that for Obama&#039;s remarks, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check the YouTube sidebar on that for Obama&#8217;s remarks, too.</p>
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		<title>By: crinoidgirl</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/06/19/a-walk-in-the-woods/#comment-265733</link>
		<dc:creator>crinoidgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now for something completely different - John Hodgman roasts Mr. Obama at the Radio &amp; TV Correspondents&#039; Dinner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW7OPByRGDY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now for something completely different &#8211; John Hodgman roasts Mr. Obama at the Radio &amp; TV Correspondents&#8217; Dinner:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW7OPByRGDY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW7OPByRGDY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll see your &quot;thirty years of bankrupt Iran policy&quot; and raise you &quot;fifty years of ignorant, ill informed Middle Eastern policy,&quot; and no, i don&#039;t mean support of Israel (which i think can be reasonably defended from 1948 through the present, given the original &quot;facts on the ground&quot; in 1947).

There&#039;s been so little comprehension of the actual polis of Arab nationhood, the practical side of Islamic theology(ies), the demographics of Moslem regions vis a vis Persian and Turkish, and an utter, willful denial of the economics of oil *within* the Middle East, let alone between that region and the rest of the world -- but in sum, i agree (tho&#039; i don&#039;t often with Larison, who is Rod Dreher on a full bottle of brandy) that Obama has so few options today because of the hand the last few decades have dealt him.

Only an idiot could say he&#039;s been &quot;silent.&quot;  He&#039;s clearly being guarded, in such a way that at each juncture, players all around the table are listening closely to what he will or won&#039;t say next.  He&#039;s in the game, which is where he ought to be, but not pushing the bidding, which he shouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see your &#8220;thirty years of bankrupt Iran policy&#8221; and raise you &#8220;fifty years of ignorant, ill informed Middle Eastern policy,&#8221; and no, i don&#8217;t mean support of Israel (which i think can be reasonably defended from 1948 through the present, given the original &#8220;facts on the ground&#8221; in 1947).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been so little comprehension of the actual polis of Arab nationhood, the practical side of Islamic theology(ies), the demographics of Moslem regions vis a vis Persian and Turkish, and an utter, willful denial of the economics of oil *within* the Middle East, let alone between that region and the rest of the world &#8212; but in sum, i agree (tho&#8217; i don&#8217;t often with Larison, who is Rod Dreher on a full bottle of brandy) that Obama has so few options today because of the hand the last few decades have dealt him.</p>
<p>Only an idiot could say he&#8217;s been &#8220;silent.&#8221;  He&#8217;s clearly being guarded, in such a way that at each juncture, players all around the table are listening closely to what he will or won&#8217;t say next.  He&#8217;s in the game, which is where he ought to be, but not pushing the bidding, which he shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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