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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last two full years in Detroit included cleaning up abandoned property for HUD.  Back then there were 17,000 properties in the metro area, mostly in Wayne Co, and mostly in Detroit.

Every scam in the book happened to these properties from crooked contractors that were supposed to rehab them to crooked demo contractors that folded the building into the basement and then bulldozed over the mess with dirt to make it look like everything was removed.  (We did honest work cutting weeds and picking up trash)  Houses were set on fire, neighbor houses burned, and property values went to worthless because of the houses.  This covered 1972 to 1974.  

Now, it seems incredible to me that the same mess still exists as though 35 years never passed.  No one can figure out how to clean up the mess other than the arsonists.  &#039;Instant urban renewal&#039; they called it then, hardly one of the Great Society programs.  Is there no one who can figure this out?  Does anyone care?  

My personal solution to the lack of appreciation of Detroit&#039;s fine old buildings, which they would rather let go to ruin rather than preserve, was to move to some place where people care.  My Motor City solution is to turn Detroit land into many rancheros, land grants where cattle and horses have room to run and orchards and crops can grow, if the soil is not too polluted.  El Del Rey, Los East Dearborn, El Grande Rivera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last two full years in Detroit included cleaning up abandoned property for HUD.  Back then there were 17,000 properties in the metro area, mostly in Wayne Co, and mostly in Detroit.</p>
<p>Every scam in the book happened to these properties from crooked contractors that were supposed to rehab them to crooked demo contractors that folded the building into the basement and then bulldozed over the mess with dirt to make it look like everything was removed.  (We did honest work cutting weeds and picking up trash)  Houses were set on fire, neighbor houses burned, and property values went to worthless because of the houses.  This covered 1972 to 1974.  </p>
<p>Now, it seems incredible to me that the same mess still exists as though 35 years never passed.  No one can figure out how to clean up the mess other than the arsonists.  &#8216;Instant urban renewal&#8217; they called it then, hardly one of the Great Society programs.  Is there no one who can figure this out?  Does anyone care?  </p>
<p>My personal solution to the lack of appreciation of Detroit&#8217;s fine old buildings, which they would rather let go to ruin rather than preserve, was to move to some place where people care.  My Motor City solution is to turn Detroit land into many rancheros, land grants where cattle and horses have room to run and orchards and crops can grow, if the soil is not too polluted.  El Del Rey, Los East Dearborn, El Grande Rivera.</p>
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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/10/attractive-nuisance/#comment-304817</link>
		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and just for the record, the Andrew Sullivan lecture last night was, to use a somewhat loaded word, &lt;i&gt;interesting&lt;/i&gt;. The stated purpose and subject of the lecture was &quot;Friendship&quot; - through the ages. About half way through the talk, in which he dropped in Aristotle (and a few other Greeks) and Shakespeare, he mentioned Jesus Christ; and from that point to the end of the lecture, he remained on JC, making the point that fundementalist Christians are fundementally &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt; in their pronouncements about family. As the realization dawned on people that we had arrived at Dr Sullivan&#039;s real subject, more than several people around the hall got up and walked out. As for Grant and I - in for a penny, in for a pound; we stayed to the end, and we learned in the Q&amp;A that indeed the death of his best friend - and the oddly wrong-headed reaction from some particular sorts of religious people is what prompted him to develop this lecture in the first place. So, all things considered, Julie is that much further ahead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and just for the record, the Andrew Sullivan lecture last night was, to use a somewhat loaded word, <i>interesting</i>. The stated purpose and subject of the lecture was &#8220;Friendship&#8221; &#8211; through the ages. About half way through the talk, in which he dropped in Aristotle (and a few other Greeks) and Shakespeare, he mentioned Jesus Christ; and from that point to the end of the lecture, he remained on JC, making the point that fundementalist Christians are fundementally <i>wrong</i> in their pronouncements about family. As the realization dawned on people that we had arrived at Dr Sullivan&#8217;s real subject, more than several people around the hall got up and walked out. As for Grant and I &#8211; in for a penny, in for a pound; we stayed to the end, and we learned in the Q&amp;A that indeed the death of his best friend &#8211; and the oddly wrong-headed reaction from some particular sorts of religious people is what prompted him to develop this lecture in the first place. So, all things considered, Julie is that much further ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/10/attractive-nuisance/#comment-304810</link>
		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moe - those Martian photos are &lt;i&gt;indeed&lt;/i&gt; arresting. The 4th one looks more micro-biological than macro-planetary! I was going to comment on the newer thread, but I don&#039;t want to foul up what has been an altogether sublime Veterans&#039; Day remembrance over there. If I had succumbed and posted over there, all I would have offered was a comment on Lincoln&#039;s speech-writing and delivery skills*, and the fact that he NEVER delivered an important speech that wasn&#039;t written out beforehand, and which he would read s-l-o-w-l-y....but that would be in answer to dunderhead critics of President Obama who object to his teleprompters, and today ain&#039;t the day for that. 

Anyway - thanks for sharing the link.

*and I agree with Jolene  - that when President Obama stops and starts and stops again; you can just see the writer at work. President Lincoln would launch into a funny story or anecdote, if he needed a little more time to think - or if he didn&#039;t want to give a more specific answer or reply....and, for what it&#039;s worth, Lincoln&#039;s critics HATED his jokey habits as much (or more!) than President Obama&#039;s critics hate his extemporaneous style</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moe &#8211; those Martian photos are <i>indeed</i> arresting. The 4th one looks more micro-biological than macro-planetary! I was going to comment on the newer thread, but I don&#8217;t want to foul up what has been an altogether sublime Veterans&#8217; Day remembrance over there. If I had succumbed and posted over there, all I would have offered was a comment on Lincoln&#8217;s speech-writing and delivery skills*, and the fact that he NEVER delivered an important speech that wasn&#8217;t written out beforehand, and which he would read s-l-o-w-l-y&#8230;.but that would be in answer to dunderhead critics of President Obama who object to his teleprompters, and today ain&#8217;t the day for that. </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; thanks for sharing the link.</p>
<p>*and I agree with Jolene  &#8211; that when President Obama stops and starts and stops again; you can just see the writer at work. President Lincoln would launch into a funny story or anecdote, if he needed a little more time to think &#8211; or if he didn&#8217;t want to give a more specific answer or reply&#8230;.and, for what it&#8217;s worth, Lincoln&#8217;s critics HATED his jokey habits as much (or more!) than President Obama&#8217;s critics hate his extemporaneous style</p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
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		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/11/martian_landscapes.html

these photos are really amazing.</description>
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<p>these photos are really amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: basset</title>
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		<dc:creator>basset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That truck appears to be an International... might have been built in the Fort, if not there it would have come from Springfield, Ohio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That truck appears to be an International&#8230; might have been built in the Fort, if not there it would have come from Springfield, Ohio.</p>
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		<title>By: coozledad</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/10/attractive-nuisance/#comment-304721</link>
		<dc:creator>coozledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jolene: One of the commenters at Roy&#039;s, Leeds Man, calls this &quot;incontinentalism&quot;. It&#039;s the idea that the more you crap your pants and run around giving headless chickens a bad name, the more patriotic you are. I&#039;d say this strapping young fellow is a movement incontinentalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jolene: One of the commenters at Roy&#8217;s, Leeds Man, calls this &#8220;incontinentalism&#8221;. It&#8217;s the idea that the more you crap your pants and run around giving headless chickens a bad name, the more patriotic you are. I&#8217;d say this strapping young fellow is a movement incontinentalist.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/10/attractive-nuisance/#comment-304720</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today is staff inservice day and I will be attending &quot;Customer Service in the Multiculturally Diverse Community.&quot;  Which in fact is a somewhat polite way of providing training to staff who truly need sensitivity training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is staff inservice day and I will be attending &#8220;Customer Service in the Multiculturally Diverse Community.&#8221;  Which in fact is a somewhat polite way of providing training to staff who truly need sensitivity training.</p>
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		<title>By: crazycatlady</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/10/attractive-nuisance/#comment-304686</link>
		<dc:creator>crazycatlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago I made a Harry Potter Griffendor Wizard cape for my daughter. She wore it every year! Until she outgrew it. A good costume is a good investment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I made a Harry Potter Griffendor Wizard cape for my daughter. She wore it every year! Until she outgrew it. A good costume is a good investment!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Kobiela</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/10/attractive-nuisance/#comment-304683</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Kobiela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had sensitivity training when I worked at Dana.Found out I really did not need it. Went in and told the class. I hate all of you.
Pilot Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had sensitivity training when I worked at Dana.Found out I really did not need it. Went in and told the class. I hate all of you.<br />
Pilot Joe</p>
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		<title>By: beb</title>
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		<dc:creator>beb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion of Rupert Murdock&#039;s plan to close Newscorp to Goggle&#039;s indexing I read suggested that what Murdock is looking for is someone to offer up millions of dollars for the exclusive right to index his site, someone like, say Microsoft&#039;s Bing, or maybe Yahoo. 

I doubt that Murdock or any other news agency will ever get bloggers to pay tp link to their sites. When the New York Times went behind a firewall bloggers simply refused to link to their news stories. Most bloggers don;t have the money in the first place and don&#039;t think links to news stories amount to theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion of Rupert Murdock&#8217;s plan to close Newscorp to Goggle&#8217;s indexing I read suggested that what Murdock is looking for is someone to offer up millions of dollars for the exclusive right to index his site, someone like, say Microsoft&#8217;s Bing, or maybe Yahoo. </p>
<p>I doubt that Murdock or any other news agency will ever get bloggers to pay tp link to their sites. When the New York Times went behind a firewall bloggers simply refused to link to their news stories. Most bloggers don;t have the money in the first place and don&#8217;t think links to news stories amount to theft.</p>
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