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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305262</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting late as I seem to do when I finally get to a computer to catch up, but there are roadside memorials all over southeastern Arizona, where my aunt and uncle have lived for many years.

I think that the states of Idaho and possibly Montana, too, erected crosses anywhere along highways where a fatal accident had occurred.  This was done by the state highway department.  We were there on family vacations in the mid 60&#039;s (yes, the 1960&#039;s, a la LAMary) and I remember them being roadside.  My father said when he was a small boy, they did that in Ohio but the state discontinued the practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting late as I seem to do when I finally get to a computer to catch up, but there are roadside memorials all over southeastern Arizona, where my aunt and uncle have lived for many years.</p>
<p>I think that the states of Idaho and possibly Montana, too, erected crosses anywhere along highways where a fatal accident had occurred.  This was done by the state highway department.  We were there on family vacations in the mid 60&#8242;s (yes, the 1960&#8242;s, a la LAMary) and I remember them being roadside.  My father said when he was a small boy, they did that in Ohio but the state discontinued the practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting parallel -- who pulls over and puts on their lights in facing lanes when funeral processions go by.  I &quot;get&quot; to sit in the lead coach quite often, with the funeral director driving and the guest of honor in the back, and the family in a car/s right behind.

Said models of car can be counted on to do things like pass us on the right when we&#039;re heading down a four-lane road getting ready to take the cortege through a left turn, or try to turn through us as we&#039;re moving through an intersection, etc.  Must note that young women in Miatas and little Firebirds (? not sure i have model right), especially red ones, are just as insensitively impatient.

Pickups with single males and minivans/suvs with moms and kids are almost guaranteed to pull over to the side and slow or stop even when on the other side of a median as facing traffic. But we have to keep a sharp eye out for the Camaro bolting out from behind them, swerving towards our oncoming procession, and roaring past grimly looking straight ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting parallel &#8212; who pulls over and puts on their lights in facing lanes when funeral processions go by.  I &#8220;get&#8221; to sit in the lead coach quite often, with the funeral director driving and the guest of honor in the back, and the family in a car/s right behind.</p>
<p>Said models of car can be counted on to do things like pass us on the right when we&#8217;re heading down a four-lane road getting ready to take the cortege through a left turn, or try to turn through us as we&#8217;re moving through an intersection, etc.  Must note that young women in Miatas and little Firebirds (? not sure i have model right), especially red ones, are just as insensitively impatient.</p>
<p>Pickups with single males and minivans/suvs with moms and kids are almost guaranteed to pull over to the side and slow or stop even when on the other side of a median as facing traffic. But we have to keep a sharp eye out for the Camaro bolting out from behind them, swerving towards our oncoming procession, and roaring past grimly looking straight ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305222</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the old Bicycling Magazine of the early 80s.  Once they ran a poll regarding the worst, most discourteous drivers to cyclists.  I remember calling my older brother who was an ultra marathoner and Paris-Brest-Paris (he&#039;s on this YouTube from 1:03 to 1:08, trying on sunglasses) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TywLn7oOLA
rider.  We instantly agreed: young males driving Firebirds and Camaros, and especially Trans-Ams.
I remember the results.  Overwhelmingly, the poll indicated we cyclists should always be aware of the cars I mentioned, as they gave us little clearance and displayed nearly zero desire to share the road.  That style of car still is the most dangerous to us.
Best, safest, most courteous drivers were, hands down, women in vans or cars with small children in the car with them.  A few years later when minivans became so popular I noticed that young mothers chauffeuring babies around were likely to be the only drivers to give a full lane&#039;s clearance when passing on a road with little traffic.  It&#039;s still that way.  
The scariest drivers for me are old people who can&#039;t see anymore but still drive ( I was slighty brushed by a rear view mirror once on SR 66 coming out of Defiance) and teenagers who don&#039;t seem to care.  Sadly, we lost two old gents in separate bike-car crashes in the past two months.
I ride all year round, but of course the cold and ice curtail many rides in winter.  It&#039;s those months when I have the recurring dreams of cycling in Naples and Fort Myers and other Florida trails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the old Bicycling Magazine of the early 80s.  Once they ran a poll regarding the worst, most discourteous drivers to cyclists.  I remember calling my older brother who was an ultra marathoner and Paris-Brest-Paris (he&#8217;s on this YouTube from 1:03 to 1:08, trying on sunglasses)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TywLn7oOLA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TywLn7oOLA</a><br />
rider.  We instantly agreed: young males driving Firebirds and Camaros, and especially Trans-Ams.<br />
I remember the results.  Overwhelmingly, the poll indicated we cyclists should always be aware of the cars I mentioned, as they gave us little clearance and displayed nearly zero desire to share the road.  That style of car still is the most dangerous to us.<br />
Best, safest, most courteous drivers were, hands down, women in vans or cars with small children in the car with them.  A few years later when minivans became so popular I noticed that young mothers chauffeuring babies around were likely to be the only drivers to give a full lane&#8217;s clearance when passing on a road with little traffic.  It&#8217;s still that way.<br />
The scariest drivers for me are old people who can&#8217;t see anymore but still drive ( I was slighty brushed by a rear view mirror once on SR 66 coming out of Defiance) and teenagers who don&#8217;t seem to care.  Sadly, we lost two old gents in separate bike-car crashes in the past two months.<br />
I ride all year round, but of course the cold and ice curtail many rides in winter.  It&#8217;s those months when I have the recurring dreams of cycling in Naples and Fort Myers and other Florida trails.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff (the mild-mannered one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you try to preach a vision that calls forth, that describes a new future that has just enough in common with today&#039;s reality to make sense to people now, and looks ahead just far enough to keep people&#039;s heads up and moving together.

There&#039;s a kind of chaplaincy that exhorts and shouts encouragement to those that run out ahead of the pack and lead the charge, which i think is real and important, but i&#039;m more of the nudging sheepdog that would rather get the whole flock moving forward three steps than settle for getting three people up and over the next ridgeline a mile ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you try to preach a vision that calls forth, that describes a new future that has just enough in common with today&#8217;s reality to make sense to people now, and looks ahead just far enough to keep people&#8217;s heads up and moving together.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a kind of chaplaincy that exhorts and shouts encouragement to those that run out ahead of the pack and lead the charge, which i think is real and important, but i&#8217;m more of the nudging sheepdog that would rather get the whole flock moving forward three steps than settle for getting three people up and over the next ridgeline a mile ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: crinoidgirl</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305188</link>
		<dc:creator>crinoidgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3D reconstruction of Sully&#039;s landing in the Hudson (put it on full screen to get full effect):

http://tinyurl.com/yj6l6gf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3D reconstruction of Sully&#8217;s landing in the Hudson (put it on full screen to get full effect):</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yj6l6gf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yj6l6gf</a></p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305181</link>
		<dc:creator>nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Firebird/Trans Am/Camaro was also the car of choice for Arab/Iranian guys at Ohio U. in the mid-&#039;70s. The dealership must have been the first stop after clearing passport control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Firebird/Trans Am/Camaro was also the car of choice for Arab/Iranian guys at Ohio U. in the mid-&#8217;70s. The dealership must have been the first stop after clearing passport control.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305178</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trackback #74:  Jim in FL, I never saw a &quot;Car 3&quot; tribute on a Ford!  However, damn-near every Chevy pickup still has a #3 Dale E. decal somewhere on it, usually the back window. I always resented NASCAR stealing the numbers for themselves.
#3?  That means Babe Ruth!  #6?  Mark Martin you say? I say Al Kaline and Stan the Man Musial .
And #24?  I know...Jeff Gordon to you, but to me, Willie  Mays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trackback #74:  Jim in FL, I never saw a &#8220;Car 3&#8243; tribute on a Ford!  However, damn-near every Chevy pickup still has a #3 Dale E. decal somewhere on it, usually the back window. I always resented NASCAR stealing the numbers for themselves.<br />
#3?  That means Babe Ruth!  #6?  Mark Martin you say? I say Al Kaline and Stan the Man Musial .<br />
And #24?  I know&#8230;Jeff Gordon to you, but to me, Willie  Mays.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305171</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so much to chew on here.

First I saw of roadside memorials was in New Mexico on the road between Santa Fe and Taos. Stopped to take a picture of a most spectacular one on a curve overlooking a sheer cliff. Also noted that their newspapers run anniversary obits (now there&#039;s an idea for our cash-strapped midwestern dailies). When I moved back to Hoosiertucky I was astounded to see crucifixes festooned with flowers and toys all over the damned countryside. This was definitely not part of the landscape when I left for Chicago as a political refugee in 1986.

Never went into the Lake Towers but used to work in the &#039;hood at 750 N. LSD when it was leased by Northwestern to the American Bar Association. Best office view I had in that place was in an eighth- or ninth-floor atrium overlooking the lakefront immediately to the north of Lake Pointe Tower, where people anchored yachts and partied all day while us working stiffs worked. And some of them partied naked, much to the delight of all the office schlubs.

I vaguely remember some controversy over a WPA painting in the IU Student Union that some people regarded as offensive and wanted removed. I thought it was located somewhere near the southwest entrance of the Union at the end of East Kirkwood. I don&#039;t particularly remember the painting or what it depicted but I do remember it striking me as considerably less outrageous than the tone of the protests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so much to chew on here.</p>
<p>First I saw of roadside memorials was in New Mexico on the road between Santa Fe and Taos. Stopped to take a picture of a most spectacular one on a curve overlooking a sheer cliff. Also noted that their newspapers run anniversary obits (now there&#8217;s an idea for our cash-strapped midwestern dailies). When I moved back to Hoosiertucky I was astounded to see crucifixes festooned with flowers and toys all over the damned countryside. This was definitely not part of the landscape when I left for Chicago as a political refugee in 1986.</p>
<p>Never went into the Lake Towers but used to work in the &#8216;hood at 750 N. LSD when it was leased by Northwestern to the American Bar Association. Best office view I had in that place was in an eighth- or ninth-floor atrium overlooking the lakefront immediately to the north of Lake Pointe Tower, where people anchored yachts and partied all day while us working stiffs worked. And some of them partied naked, much to the delight of all the office schlubs.</p>
<p>I vaguely remember some controversy over a WPA painting in the IU Student Union that some people regarded as offensive and wanted removed. I thought it was located somewhere near the southwest entrance of the Union at the end of East Kirkwood. I don&#8217;t particularly remember the painting or what it depicted but I do remember it striking me as considerably less outrageous than the tone of the protests.</p>
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		<title>By: LAMary</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305148</link>
		<dc:creator>LAMary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say it again. Colorado Springs used to be a nice city. The megachurches completely fucked it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say it again. Colorado Springs used to be a nice city. The megachurches completely fucked it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/12/art-by-committee/#comment-305144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Isn’t that what most ser mons are really about, Jolene? &lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right, Julie.  There are so many reasons to be doubtful, depressed, and discouraged.  People need all the stoking they can get.

On another topic: There are two new shows on CNBC this evening that might be interesting.  A Q@A session w/ Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and bio of Gates--assuming you&#039;re interested in the views and experience of super-rich tycoons/philanthropists, that is.  

On still another topic: Are any of you Google Chrome users?  I just started playing w/ it a couple of days ago (after having spent a ridiculous amount of time configuring Firefox w/ just the right mix of add-ons), and I very cool.  It is, as far as I can see, less configurable than Firefox, but it &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; fast, and I love the status bar search.

Talking sense, crinoidgirl?  I&#039;ll try to keep it to a minimum.  Am glad to hear you&#039;ll be eligible for the extended unemployment benefits.  I thought of you and wondered when I heard the news, as I thought I thought I heard someone on the teevee say that people whose benefits had expired wouldn&#039;t be covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Isn’t that what most ser mons are really about, Jolene? </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right, Julie.  There are so many reasons to be doubtful, depressed, and discouraged.  People need all the stoking they can get.</p>
<p>On another topic: There are two new shows on CNBC this evening that might be interesting.  A Q@A session w/ Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and bio of Gates&#8211;assuming you&#8217;re interested in the views and experience of super-rich tycoons/philanthropists, that is.  </p>
<p>On still another topic: Are any of you Google Chrome users?  I just started playing w/ it a couple of days ago (after having spent a ridiculous amount of time configuring Firefox w/ just the right mix of add-ons), and I very cool.  It is, as far as I can see, less configurable than Firefox, but it <i>really</i> fast, and I love the status bar search.</p>
<p>Talking sense, crinoidgirl?  I&#8217;ll try to keep it to a minimum.  Am glad to hear you&#8217;ll be eligible for the extended unemployment benefits.  I thought of you and wondered when I heard the news, as I thought I thought I heard someone on the teevee say that people whose benefits had expired wouldn&#8217;t be covered.</p>
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