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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/13/early-meeting-bugout/comment-page-1/#comment-305873</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore is pretty funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWC-n8gtLpY&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore is pretty funny:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWC-n8gtLpY&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWC-n8gtLpY&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/13/early-meeting-bugout/comment-page-1/#comment-305868</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Jolene, I always make a big deal outta Bruce&#039;s birthday since we are just five days apart, same year.  This year I called a satellite radio show who had forgotten it.  Some people can remember exactly how many times they have attended Bruce shows.  It&#039;s easy for me:  4.  Detroit, Pontiac, St. John&#039;s Arena Columbus and Schottenstein Center Columbus. Another one in Indy was cancelled when The Big Man Clarence had to have eye surgery.  Big Man&#039;s got a new book out, too.
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/09/18/e-street-bands-clarence-clemons-answers-burning-questions-from-the-rolling-stone-twitter/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jolene, I always make a big deal outta Bruce’s birthday since we are just five days apart, same year.  This year I called a satellite radio show who had forgotten it.  Some people can remember exactly how many times they have attended Bruce shows.  It’s easy for me:  4.  Detroit, Pontiac, St. John’s Arena Columbus and Schottenstein Center Columbus. Another one in Indy was cancelled when The Big Man Clarence had to have eye surgery.  Big Man’s got a new book out, too.<br />
<a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/09/18/e-street-bands-clarence-clemons-answers-burning-questions-from-the-rolling-stone-twitter/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/09/18/e-street-bands-clarence-clemons-answers-burning-questions-from-the-rolling-stone-twitter/</a></p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/13/early-meeting-bugout/comment-page-1/#comment-305863</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool caves:

http://www.uniquescoop.com/2009/10/caves-world-beneath-world.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool caves:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uniquescoop.com/2009/10/caves-world-beneath-world.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.uniquescoop.com/2009/10/caves-world-beneath-world.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
		<link>http://nancynall.com/2009/11/13/early-meeting-bugout/comment-page-1/#comment-305809</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce turned 60 this past September, Dexter.  &lt;i&gt;Forever Young&lt;/i&gt; is a good name for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrpGl8yXms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a song&lt;/a&gt;; unfortunately, real life is a little different.

Am listening to Giuliani try to justify his present opinions given his past remarks right now.  It&#039;s not going well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce turned 60 this past September, Dexter.  <i>Forever Young</i> is a good name for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrpGl8yXms" rel="nofollow">a song</a>; unfortunately, real life is a little different.</p>
<p>Am listening to Giuliani try to justify his present opinions given his past remarks right now.  It’s not going well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Borden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Borden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crinoidgirl,

Yes, the Buckeyes are going to the Rose Bowl, where they again will play the patsy and make football fans across the nation laugh at the very idea of the Big Ten as a football powerhouse.

I suppose there is no perfect place to try KSM, but I have no problem with his trial being in New York, just as I have zero worries about turning an underutilized state prison 150 miles of Chicago as a pen for those still held in Guantanomo. The political posturing has been nauseating. I expect Rudy Ghouliani to scream about it, though if you look at previous comments about terror trials in NYC, he was for them. Joe Biden is correct about Rudy: Noun, verb, 9/11. Repeat.

Here in Illinois, all the little GOPers who want to be a U.S. Senator piddled in their pantaloons over the idea of housing suspected terrorists in Thomson, Ill. The people in Thomson, a poor community along the Mississippi, are in favor of the move because they believe it will create jobs.

Isn&#039;t the whole goal of terrorism to take away our sense of propriety, our adherence to the rule of law, and reduce us to cowering puddles of fear? Isn&#039;t the best way to flip the bird at the crazies in the caves to continue acting civilized?

At the height of The Blitz, theaters were still showing movies and plays, restaurants and pubs were still serving food and suds. The nation embrace the slogan: Remain calm. Carry on. And they did.

If the trial of KSM or the transfers of suspected terrorists to Illinois reduce our political class to terrified infants, what might they have felt if they&#039;d been in London in 1940?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crinoidgirl,</p>
<p>Yes, the Buckeyes are going to the Rose Bowl, where they again will play the patsy and make football fans across the nation laugh at the very idea of the Big Ten as a football powerhouse.</p>
<p>I suppose there is no perfect place to try KSM, but I have no problem with his trial being in New York, just as I have zero worries about turning an underutilized state prison 150 miles of Chicago as a pen for those still held in Guantanomo. The political posturing has been nauseating. I expect Rudy Ghouliani to scream about it, though if you look at previous comments about terror trials in NYC, he was for them. Joe Biden is correct about Rudy: Noun, verb, 9/11. Repeat.</p>
<p>Here in Illinois, all the little GOPers who want to be a U.S. Senator piddled in their pantaloons over the idea of housing suspected terrorists in Thomson, Ill. The people in Thomson, a poor community along the Mississippi, are in favor of the move because they believe it will create jobs.</p>
<p>Isn’t the whole goal of terrorism to take away our sense of propriety, our adherence to the rule of law, and reduce us to cowering puddles of fear? Isn’t the best way to flip the bird at the crazies in the caves to continue acting civilized?</p>
<p>At the height of The Blitz, theaters were still showing movies and plays, restaurants and pubs were still serving food and suds. The nation embrace the slogan: Remain calm. Carry on. And they did.</p>
<p>If the trial of KSM or the transfers of suspected terrorists to Illinois reduce our political class to terrified infants, what might they have felt if they’d been in London in 1940?</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, Brian...I am a long time devotee of Bruce, but this crowd surfing photo pose looks more like an old rocker in a coffin than the rock and roll king that is Bruce Springsteen.
http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/detroit/index.ssf/2009/11/michigan_fans_forgive_bruce_sp.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, Brian…I am a long time devotee of Bruce, but this crowd surfing photo pose looks more like an old rocker in a coffin than the rock and roll king that is Bruce Springsteen.<br />
<a href="http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/detroit/index.ssf/2009/11/michigan_fans_forgive_bruce_sp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/detroit/index.ssf/2009/11/michigan_fans_forgive_bruce_sp.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say &quot;yes&quot; to Michigan, the Rodney Dangerfield of the United States (even amongst folks &quot;BOOOOORN in the USAya!&quot;)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33945218/ns/entertainment-music/

an excerpt:

&lt;i&gt;The Boss bellowed &quot;Hello, Ohio!&quot; to his fans at the Auburn Hills Palace in Michigan. Springsteen referred to the neighboring state several times in the following 30 minutes until E Street Band guitarist Steve Van Zandt whispered in his ear.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say “yes” to Michigan, the Rodney Dangerfield of the United States (even amongst folks “BOOOOORN in the USAya!”)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33945218/ns/entertainment-music/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33945218/ns/entertainment-music/</a></p>
<p>an excerpt:</p>
<p><i>The Boss bellowed “Hello, Ohio!” to his fans at the Auburn Hills Palace in Michigan. Springsteen referred to the neighboring state several times in the following 30 minutes until E Street Band guitarist Steve Van Zandt whispered in his ear.</i></p>
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		<title>By: coozledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>coozledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unprecedented administrative incompetence. And the press put the kneepads on.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/books/review/Heilbrunn-t.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unprecedented administrative incompetence. And the press put the kneepads on.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/books/review/Heilbrunn-t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/books/review/Heilbrunn-t.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Read AG Holder’s com ments and you will see that he claims to have done a search of var i ous juris dic tions to deter mine the one best equpped to safely con duct the trial, decid ing upon NY.&lt;/i&gt;

Right.  He said that he consulted w/ both Mayor Bloomberg and NYPD Chief of Police Ray Kelly before deciding where to hold the trial.  Since these detainees will be charged w/ federal crimes, they could be tried in any federal court.  Recall that Moussaoui was tried in Alexandria, VA.  

According to AG Holder, NY is best able to provide the security needed for these trials; in addition to personnel who have handled security for many complex events, they have tunnels connecting the cells where they&#039;ll be held to courtrooms so that they can be moved w/o having to take them outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Read AG Holder’s com ments and you will see that he claims to have done a search of var i ous juris dic tions to deter mine the one best equpped to safely con duct the trial, decid ing upon NY.</i></p>
<p>Right.  He said that he consulted w/ both Mayor Bloomberg and NYPD Chief of Police Ray Kelly before deciding where to hold the trial.  Since these detainees will be charged w/ federal crimes, they could be tried in any federal court.  Recall that Moussaoui was tried in Alexandria, VA.  </p>
<p>According to AG Holder, NY is best able to provide the security needed for these trials; in addition to personnel who have handled security for many complex events, they have tunnels connecting the cells where they’ll be held to courtrooms so that they can be moved w/o having to take them outside.</p>
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		<title>By: brian stouder</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian stouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I dunno about your statement that 

&lt;i&gt;So far as I am aware, KSM is not charged with any crim­i­nal activ­ity occur­ring in NY. His activ­ity took place out­side the coun­try. &lt;/i&gt;

Possibly he isn&#039;t &lt;b&gt;formally charged&lt;/b&gt; yet (which may have been your point) - but despite conspiring elsewhere, clearly the murders he will be charged with occurred in New York and Washington and Shanksville, PA.

There&#039;s this from Alan Dershowitz

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/america-is-on-trial-as-much-as-khalid-sheikh-mohammed/article1363102/

an excerpt (emphasis added)

&lt;i&gt;The Obama administration has announced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-confessed mastermind of 9/11, will be subjected to an ordinary criminal trial in the federal court of New York. &lt;b&gt;He will almost certainly be charged with the mass murder of nearly 3,000 individuals, and could possibly face trial for the death of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, whom he claims to have beheaded in Pakistan.&lt;/b&gt;The form of the indictment isn&#039;t yet clear – whether it will be a conspiracy or RICO charge, or whether it will include special terrorist counts as well. Whatever the form, the substance of the charge will be that Mr. Mohammed and his co-defendants murdered more people than anyone who has ever faced justice in a U.S. court. Despite the fact that Mr. Mohammed has confessed to virtually everything, his trial will face daunting challenges, unless he decides to plead guilty, as he tried to do last year when he sent a note to a military judge at Guantanamo. If he changes his mind and decides to fight the charges, he will have powerful legal weapons at his disposal.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark — I dunno about your statement that </p>
<p><i>So far as I am aware, KSM is not charged with any crim­i­nal activ­ity occur­ring in NY. His activ­ity took place out­side the coun­try. </i></p>
<p>Possibly he isn’t <b>formally charged</b> yet (which may have been your point) — but despite conspiring elsewhere, clearly the murders he will be charged with occurred in New York and Washington and Shanksville, PA.</p>
<p>There’s this from Alan Dershowitz</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/america-is-on-trial-as-much-as-khalid-sheikh-mohammed/article1363102/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/america-is-on-trial-as-much-as-khalid-sheikh-mohammed/article1363102/</a></p>
<p>an excerpt (emphasis added)</p>
<p><i>The Obama administration has announced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-confessed mastermind of 9/11, will be subjected to an ordinary criminal trial in the federal court of New York. <b>He will almost certainly be charged with the mass murder of nearly 3,000 individuals, and could possibly face trial for the death of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, whom he claims to have beheaded in Pakistan.</b>The form of the indictment isn’t yet clear – whether it will be a conspiracy or RICO charge, or whether it will include special terrorist counts as well. Whatever the form, the substance of the charge will be that Mr. Mohammed and his co-defendants murdered more people than anyone who has ever faced justice in a U.S. court. Despite the fact that Mr. Mohammed has confessed to virtually everything, his trial will face daunting challenges, unless he decides to plead guilty, as he tried to do last year when he sent a note to a military judge at Guantanamo. If he changes his mind and decides to fight the charges, he will have powerful legal weapons at his disposal.</i></p>
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