Trump always projects onto others his own biggest faults. Guess it should have been a heads up when he called Mexicans rapists.
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Jolene said on October 8, 2016 at 12:29 pm
Need a like button.
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kayak woman said on October 8, 2016 at 12:58 pm
Jolene beat me to it.
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Jakash said on October 8, 2016 at 1:10 pm
You know this one is bad, because it’s so obviously bad that even he’s been convinced of it by his team of enablers, since he made that unsurprisingly aggressive hostage video. An actual apology! But, of course, he’s been changed for the better by traveling the country being hailed by white supremacists. “Anyone who knows me knows these words don’t reflect who I am.” There’s the important lie. If it were true, well, I don’t know what. But if that sentence were true, we’d be hearing from all the folks who know him saying “Oh, that’s not really the way he is.” But who has said that, other than Ivanka saying “he’s not a groper,” like she hasn’t been groped by him enough herself. Ewww… Part of why this is so bad is because it reflects EXACTLY who he is, which has been demonstrated by dozens of other things he’s said and done.
I certainly fear what’s out there about Hillary’s response to some of Bill’s “bimbo eruptions” that he can bring up, but assume that most folks understand the difference between the position Hillary’s been put in by Bill’s behavior in the past and Rump being the perpetrator of some of the same behaviors himself.
As far as the “locker room” talk; sure, somebody might say “so-and-so is hot”, but that pussy reference is so far beyond anything I’ve ever heard that it really puts Rump in a locker room of deplorables. Bizarre, as well as disgusting. I anticipate the same type of folks who added “deplorable” to their twitter handles a couple weeks ago, now throwing in “pussy-grabber” to round them out.
You know, I don’t really doubt that Bill Clinton has said some unseemly things on the golf course. But he’s not running, Hillary’s not responsible for what he’s said and done, and he was already impeached for his behavior. The luxury we all have now is being able to impeach Rump before he even gets elected!
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adrianne said on October 8, 2016 at 3:33 pm
I think Hillary’s got this. Not worried about Sunday’s debate. In fact, now I’m not worried about the election outcome. The Donald is dragging down his whole sorry-ass party with him. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Everyone knew about his Howard Stern stuff. They knew he is a pig and they liked him better for it. The Rs pretending to be shocked are the worst liars ever. The best thing is, they’re stuck with him. They can’t replace him now.
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm
I’m beginning to wonder if the House is in play. If turnout collapses among Republicans, the gerrymander won’t save them.
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Suzanne said on October 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm
I’d not be worried about the election but then I read about the crackpot that was elected in the Philippines.
It sounds like Ryan was heckled pretty relentlessly for cancelling tRump from his rally today. They say Ryan’s district is only an R +5. It could make things interesting of in a fit of pique they didn’t vote down ballot.
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 9:53 pm
So, the interesting question is, why didn’t NBC find this video sooner? You’d think an enterprising young reporter, knowing the kind of things Trump has said over the years on Howard Stern’s show, would be curious about what’s on unaired footage in their entertainment vaults. Does anyone think that’s the only bad thing Trump has said or done on tape?
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 9:58 pm
Scott Adams says:
If the LGBTQ community wants to be a bit more inclusive, I don’t see why “polyamorous alpha male serial kisser” can’t be on the list. If you want to label Trump’s sexual behavior “abnormal” you’re on shaky ground.
Have you ever heard the term (which may be trademarked) “Round-Up ready”?
It refers to seeds that are genetically modified so as to be unaffected by a broad-spectrum herbicide (in this case, Monsanto’s Round-Up)…..and as I travelled through southern Indiana (Loogootee, hilariously prouncounced “LIgutEE”, and sounding somewhat French, although the place is fairly German; Jasper, Huntingburg, and Dale) with the radio on, all that crap from the local lip-flappers was like a deluge of toxins that doesn’t bother the (genetically modified?) locals down there, but which I found toxic in the extreme. It seemed to be all across their radio dial, AM and FM; and the Trump/Pence signs were like dandelions – and I literally don’t recall seeing ANY Hillary signs….surely I missed one or two – but the Trump signs were everywhere.
I guess we shall see, eh?
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brian stouder said on October 8, 2016 at 10:30 pm
(The funny pronunciation of Loogootee was a reference to Siri – who kept me on-track, as I rolled down the road, despite her pronouciations!)
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 11:34 pm
I think that the base that has been created in the Republican Party has been fed a steady diet of hate and fear long enough that they no longer recognize anything different. There’s a big difference between disagreeing with with the opposition and with demonizing them, and we’ve seen a concerted effort by right wing media to demonize opponents. The Republican Party apparatus has been happy to go along with that process (or in the case of Newt Gingrich, to promote the process himself.) They have steadily torn down the norms of government, while the mainstream media has stood by and proclaimed that both sides were guilty.
I said months ago that Trump was just a symptom, not the problem. Defeating Trump is still important, but destroying the current Republican Party is important, too. We don’t have a functional government without two parties willing to participate in the business of governing. This is why the executive branch has taken on so much more power over the last 30 years, because Congress is unable to operate. The Senate has always been a sclerotic body, but it hasn’t always taken 60 votes to do anything. now, that’s just treated as normal for most things.
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basset said on October 9, 2016 at 1:26 am
Brian, I am a graduate of Loogootee High and can provide a definitive correction to Siri. It’s pronounced L’go-tee, all vowels long. Haven’t been back in quite some time but the Trump signs don’t surprise me. Hillary supporters would be wise to keep it quiet around there.
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MarkH said on October 9, 2016 at 3:30 am
Probably only basset will appreciate this, but RIP Brock Yates.
It is interesting that one of the main criticisms by the right of Bill Clinton when he was president was his lack of good character and one of their main criticisms of Obama was his inexperience. So here they are with the sleaziest, most inexperienced candidate in my memory and conservative voters support him. Weren’t they listening to themselves when they were criticizing?
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Joe K said on October 9, 2016 at 7:39 am
Suzanne,
Because the left said what Billy did with little Willie,and Obama’s inexperience didn’t matter.
Pilot Joe
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basset said on October 9, 2016 at 7:57 am
RIP indeed, MarkH. Really good obit, reminds me of the days when Car & Driver was still fit to read. And “Decline & Fall…” made a lot of sense.
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Suzanne said on October 9, 2016 at 8:22 am
But, Joe, they said the left was wrong about not caring about those things. So now they don’t follow their own principles. If I believe stealing is wrong, i don’t change my principles because some theif says it’s perfectly ok.
We used to be entertained when the Google maps navigation voice (not Siri, but sounds kinda like her cousin) would refer to Dayton as “Dittn” for some reason. At some point, however, Ms. Voice (as Sammy has dubbed her) learned the correct pronunciation.
Somehow I managed to live without Siri all this time and I’ve had iPhones for many years now. It was only recently, however, that I learned you have to hold down the button when talking to her. Duh.
What I didn’t know is that she comes prepared to respond to cursing and abuse and she’ll rip you a new one if you tell her to shut the fuck up and butt out of your business.
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Kirk said on October 9, 2016 at 10:44 am
Columbus Dispatch endorses Clinton. Last Democrat it endorsed was Woodrow Wilson 100 years ago.
I’ve never blamed Busch for anything. I drink Newcastle Brown Ale and I’ve never blamed anything on it because I can nurse two bottles of it all night. Now if you mean C+ Agustus George W. Bush, he in fact messed-up pretty much everything he touched. Do I have to make a list? Here goes:
1. Osama bin Laden determined to strike at US.
2. Lying us into Iraq.
3. Bungling the post invasion in Iraq.
4. Cratering the economy.
5. Worst job growth since Herbert Hoover.
6. Being an international embarrassment wherever he went.
I could probably go on for pages if I had the time and inclination, but really, isn’t this enough? I know, I know, he kept us safe. Except for that one day he took a mulligan. False equivalence is unbecoming and should only be done by professionals.
Pilot Joe, I think President Obama did a superb job of picking up experience while on the job, which may be the best place to pick it up.
That’s another reason why I’m enthused about Hillary Clinton: she hasn’t been President, but she’s been in the White House working on multiple levels. She knows what works there.
By the way, the Trump defenders who are determined to make Bill Clinton’s sexual past an issue in this campaign—what is it with them trying to blame his wife—the candidate—for his transgressions?
I don’t blame Pat Nixon, Nancy Reagan, Jackie Kennedy, Eleanor Roosevelt, or Mamie Eisenhower.
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adrianne said on October 9, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Best thing I’ve read today, Charles Pierce’s righteous fury: When it won, the party opted for triumphalism. When it lost, it opted for obstruction. It has blown through democratic norms in every branch of the government. In the executive, it lied and tortured and worked almost exclusively to shove as much of the country’s wealth upwards. As a legislative majority, it has consistently refused to do even the most fundamental tasks of governing the country. In the judiciary, the judges so carefully nurtured in the think-tank terrariums of the organized Right have let loose a flood of money into our politics and have worked assiduously to carve away the franchise from the people who might most inconvenience the party on Election Day. They have come dangerously close to completing the project of creating a new Jim Crow to ensure a new Gilded Age. And now, there are not sufficient roosts for all the chickens. If you have a party dedicated to vandalism and nihilism, how can you possibly be surprised when your presidential nomination is spirited away by a career vandal and a superior nihilist?
“Because the left said … Obama’s inexperience didn’t matter.” Well, it sure didn’t matter much, because, though inexperienced, he was plenty smart and knowledgeable about stuff that a guy like Rump has absolutely no clue about. And, when you have an opposition party whose PRIMARY goal was to try to make sure Obama failed (There’s patriotism for you), how much experience in dealing with legislatures would have mattered? He had LOADS of experience by the time he nominated Merrick Garland, which was a very carefully considered choice. Did that make a shred of difference?
He’s had an effective, scandal-free administration that has economically outperformed what Romney was promising. He’s represented a sterling example of family values, unlike Rump and his band of twice-divorced, “everybody cheats” enablers. I suppose if you wish we’d gone to war in Iran, you could gripe about that, but his foreign policy demonstrates the art of the possible in a very messy world. He’s acted and spoken more like a Christian than many lefties even like, but is still thought to be an America-hating Muslim by unhinged Republicans. Really, look at where the country was in 2008 and look at where it is now. If this had been achieved by President McCain, he’d be considered the great president that Obama deserves to be thought of (and is, by folks who don’t wallow in the right-wing loonysphere.)
Other than Grover Cleveland, what President has had previous experience?
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Sherri said on October 9, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Can we spare a moment to consider the gutlessness of NBC? Once they found the tape, they spent days worrying about whether Donald Trump would sue them (and presumably trying to figure out a way to mitigate the further damage to the Today show.) Huntley-Brinkley it’s not anymore.
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Diane said on October 9, 2016 at 3:20 pm
While I enjoyed the piece very much, I fear that Mr. Pierce is being unduly optimistic in his use of the word culmination.
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brian stouder said on October 9, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Basset – I very much enjoyed how beautiful down-state Indiana is, right now; lots of harvesting was going on in the fields, and some colors seem to be coming on in the trees.
Loogootee had the best gasoline prices, and I gassed up (at $1.98/gallon) there, where the highway runs straight into a McDonald’s (grabbed a pancake/sausage thing there, which was piping hot, fresh off the griddle, and very good!), and there’s a Marathon off to the left.
When you get to Gentryville, the forest and woods pretty much engulf you, and it’s not hard to imagine just how much more imposing the challenge – to carve out a living, there – must have been, in 1816 when the Lincolns arrived.
Your part of the state is much more rolling and beautiful than my part of the state. (The glaciers flattened everything from here to south of Indy)
I also liked the new stretch of I-69 (past Bloomington) – a genuinely pleasant excursion
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brian stouder said on October 9, 2016 at 3:33 pm
Sheri – there’s almost certainly a (literal) shit-load more of embarrassing video of Donald Trump reducing women to (essentially) inflated sex-toys, and all with his annoying chortling and snideness, from the video vaults of Mark Burnett’s production company.
Those guys made The Apprentice, and former contestants and others attest that he was ALWAYS talkin’ shit like that, in front of all the cameras on set.
His “locker-room” talk is unacceptable enough in any locker room I’ve ever been in…and he seems to view the entire damned world as one big locker room.
NBC (or whoever) should offer Burnett whatever money he wants, and we should get those videos
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brian stouder said on October 9, 2016 at 3:38 pm
…and by the way, before we hear the Donald again try and deflect this away with any kind of “locker room” excuse, let us consider Donald’s common sense.
If you are on a bus, loaded with cameras and microphones and technicians, and in fact you’re WEARING a microphone, what would make you think “I can talk shit all I want”?
And indeed – when you’re on a set at NBC (or wherever the Apprentice/Burnett studio was), and you have 4 or 5 big TV cameras lit up and operational, and all the production people are in place and rockin’ and rollin’ – how is THAT like being in a locker-room?
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LAMary said on October 9, 2016 at 3:44 pm
We had subscriptions to Car and Driver and Road and Track coming to our house all the time I was growing up. I had four older brothers. I knew who Brock Yates was and I explained who he was to the males in my house yesterday.
We also got Mechanics Illustrated, Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, Sports Afield and some publication about fishing.
Burnett is apparently supporting Trump, and has threatened to sue anyone who leaks anything from the Apprentice.
Trump says and does anything he wants, because he doesn’t expect any consequences. If there are any consequences, he attacks and expects to win.
That’s what his base of support loves about him.
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Judybusy said on October 9, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Jakash @ 34, thanks. Well-stated.
We’re having friends over to watch the debate tonight. I watched the first one alone, as my wife couldn’t stomach it. We’ll see if she joins the 3 of us! I am very curious about what questions the candidates will be asked.
We called our local Dog & Suds Arf & Barf. Did everyone else, or was that a Grand Rapids thing.
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Jakash said on October 9, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Thanks, JCBurns and Judybusy!
As for the debate, I don’t know how I’ll be able to stand it, but I don’t know how we can’t watch. Skipping the VP affair worked out well, though. I guess we’ll watch, prepared to bail, if and when necessary…
alex said on October 8, 2016 at 12:05 pm
So how does that grab ya?
Trump always projects onto others his own biggest faults. Guess it should have been a heads up when he called Mexicans rapists.
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Jolene said on October 8, 2016 at 12:29 pm
Need a like button.
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kayak woman said on October 8, 2016 at 12:58 pm
Jolene beat me to it.
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Jakash said on October 8, 2016 at 1:10 pm
You know this one is bad, because it’s so obviously bad that even he’s been convinced of it by his team of enablers, since he made that unsurprisingly aggressive hostage video. An actual apology! But, of course, he’s been changed for the better by traveling the country being hailed by white supremacists. “Anyone who knows me knows these words don’t reflect who I am.” There’s the important lie. If it were true, well, I don’t know what. But if that sentence were true, we’d be hearing from all the folks who know him saying “Oh, that’s not really the way he is.” But who has said that, other than Ivanka saying “he’s not a groper,” like she hasn’t been groped by him enough herself. Ewww… Part of why this is so bad is because it reflects EXACTLY who he is, which has been demonstrated by dozens of other things he’s said and done.
I certainly fear what’s out there about Hillary’s response to some of Bill’s “bimbo eruptions” that he can bring up, but assume that most folks understand the difference between the position Hillary’s been put in by Bill’s behavior in the past and Rump being the perpetrator of some of the same behaviors himself.
As far as the “locker room” talk; sure, somebody might say “so-and-so is hot”, but that pussy reference is so far beyond anything I’ve ever heard that it really puts Rump in a locker room of deplorables. Bizarre, as well as disgusting. I anticipate the same type of folks who added “deplorable” to their twitter handles a couple weeks ago, now throwing in “pussy-grabber” to round them out.
You know, I don’t really doubt that Bill Clinton has said some unseemly things on the golf course. But he’s not running, Hillary’s not responsible for what he’s said and done, and he was already impeached for his behavior. The luxury we all have now is being able to impeach Rump before he even gets elected!
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adrianne said on October 8, 2016 at 3:33 pm
I think Hillary’s got this. Not worried about Sunday’s debate. In fact, now I’m not worried about the election outcome. The Donald is dragging down his whole sorry-ass party with him. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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David C. said on October 8, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Drip, drip, deluge.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/trump-on-howard-stern/index.html
Everyone knew about his Howard Stern stuff. They knew he is a pig and they liked him better for it. The Rs pretending to be shocked are the worst liars ever. The best thing is, they’re stuck with him. They can’t replace him now.
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm
I’m beginning to wonder if the House is in play. If turnout collapses among Republicans, the gerrymander won’t save them.
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Suzanne said on October 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm
I’d not be worried about the election but then I read about the crackpot that was elected in the Philippines.
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 5:36 pm
I didn’t think I’d ever agree with every single word of a Jonah Goldberg column, but that’s what Trump hath wrought: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/440859/trumps-piggishness-surprises-beguiled
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Jolene said on October 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm
Will be interesting to see what Saturday Night Live does tonight.
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David C. said on October 8, 2016 at 9:10 pm
It sounds like Ryan was heckled pretty relentlessly for cancelling tRump from his rally today. They say Ryan’s district is only an R +5. It could make things interesting of in a fit of pique they didn’t vote down ballot.
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 9:53 pm
So, the interesting question is, why didn’t NBC find this video sooner? You’d think an enterprising young reporter, knowing the kind of things Trump has said over the years on Howard Stern’s show, would be curious about what’s on unaired footage in their entertainment vaults. Does anyone think that’s the only bad thing Trump has said or done on tape?
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 9:58 pm
Scott Adams says:
If the LGBTQ community wants to be a bit more inclusive, I don’t see why “polyamorous alpha male serial kisser” can’t be on the list. If you want to label Trump’s sexual behavior “abnormal” you’re on shaky ground.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151504993671/why-does-this-happen-on-my-vacation-the-trump
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brian stouder said on October 8, 2016 at 10:28 pm
Have you ever heard the term (which may be trademarked) “Round-Up ready”?
It refers to seeds that are genetically modified so as to be unaffected by a broad-spectrum herbicide (in this case, Monsanto’s Round-Up)…..and as I travelled through southern Indiana (Loogootee, hilariously prouncounced “LIgutEE”, and sounding somewhat French, although the place is fairly German; Jasper, Huntingburg, and Dale) with the radio on, all that crap from the local lip-flappers was like a deluge of toxins that doesn’t bother the (genetically modified?) locals down there, but which I found toxic in the extreme. It seemed to be all across their radio dial, AM and FM; and the Trump/Pence signs were like dandelions – and I literally don’t recall seeing ANY Hillary signs….surely I missed one or two – but the Trump signs were everywhere.
I guess we shall see, eh?
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brian stouder said on October 8, 2016 at 10:30 pm
(The funny pronunciation of Loogootee was a reference to Siri – who kept me on-track, as I rolled down the road, despite her pronouciations!)
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Sherri said on October 8, 2016 at 11:34 pm
I think that the base that has been created in the Republican Party has been fed a steady diet of hate and fear long enough that they no longer recognize anything different. There’s a big difference between disagreeing with with the opposition and with demonizing them, and we’ve seen a concerted effort by right wing media to demonize opponents. The Republican Party apparatus has been happy to go along with that process (or in the case of Newt Gingrich, to promote the process himself.) They have steadily torn down the norms of government, while the mainstream media has stood by and proclaimed that both sides were guilty.
I said months ago that Trump was just a symptom, not the problem. Defeating Trump is still important, but destroying the current Republican Party is important, too. We don’t have a functional government without two parties willing to participate in the business of governing. This is why the executive branch has taken on so much more power over the last 30 years, because Congress is unable to operate. The Senate has always been a sclerotic body, but it hasn’t always taken 60 votes to do anything. now, that’s just treated as normal for most things.
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basset said on October 9, 2016 at 1:26 am
Brian, I am a graduate of Loogootee High and can provide a definitive correction to Siri. It’s pronounced L’go-tee, all vowels long. Haven’t been back in quite some time but the Trump signs don’t surprise me. Hillary supporters would be wise to keep it quiet around there.
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MarkH said on October 9, 2016 at 3:30 am
Probably only basset will appreciate this, but RIP Brock Yates.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/brock-yates-automotive-writer-driver-who-created-cannonball-run-dies-at-82/2016/10/08/22f5a312-8d71-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html
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Suzanne said on October 9, 2016 at 7:27 am
It is interesting that one of the main criticisms by the right of Bill Clinton when he was president was his lack of good character and one of their main criticisms of Obama was his inexperience. So here they are with the sleaziest, most inexperienced candidate in my memory and conservative voters support him. Weren’t they listening to themselves when they were criticizing?
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Joe K said on October 9, 2016 at 7:39 am
Suzanne,
Because the left said what Billy did with little Willie,and Obama’s inexperience didn’t matter.
Pilot Joe
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basset said on October 9, 2016 at 7:57 am
RIP indeed, MarkH. Really good obit, reminds me of the days when Car & Driver was still fit to read. And “Decline & Fall…” made a lot of sense.
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Suzanne said on October 9, 2016 at 8:22 am
But, Joe, they said the left was wrong about not caring about those things. So now they don’t follow their own principles. If I believe stealing is wrong, i don’t change my principles because some theif says it’s perfectly ok.
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David C. said on October 9, 2016 at 8:48 am
The “but Bill Clinton” card is always offered in bad faith and the people who say it always know better.
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jcburns said on October 9, 2016 at 9:52 am
We used to be entertained when the Google maps navigation voice (not Siri, but sounds kinda like her cousin) would refer to Dayton as “Dittn” for some reason. At some point, however, Ms. Voice (as Sammy has dubbed her) learned the correct pronunciation.
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alex said on October 9, 2016 at 10:02 am
Interesting stuff about the married woman Trump failed to seduce. He also failed in his subsequent efforts to have her fired. His pettiness is even creepier than his aggression.
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alex said on October 9, 2016 at 10:10 am
Somehow I managed to live without Siri all this time and I’ve had iPhones for many years now. It was only recently, however, that I learned you have to hold down the button when talking to her. Duh.
What I didn’t know is that she comes prepared to respond to cursing and abuse and she’ll rip you a new one if you tell her to shut the fuck up and butt out of your business.
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Kirk said on October 9, 2016 at 10:44 am
Columbus Dispatch endorses Clinton. Last Democrat it endorsed was Woodrow Wilson 100 years ago.
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Joe K said on October 9, 2016 at 11:00 am
Dave C,
So is the blame Busch.
Pilot Joe
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David C. said on October 9, 2016 at 11:46 am
I’ve never blamed Busch for anything. I drink Newcastle Brown Ale and I’ve never blamed anything on it because I can nurse two bottles of it all night. Now if you mean C+ Agustus George W. Bush, he in fact messed-up pretty much everything he touched. Do I have to make a list? Here goes:
1. Osama bin Laden determined to strike at US.
2. Lying us into Iraq.
3. Bungling the post invasion in Iraq.
4. Cratering the economy.
5. Worst job growth since Herbert Hoover.
6. Being an international embarrassment wherever he went.
I could probably go on for pages if I had the time and inclination, but really, isn’t this enough? I know, I know, he kept us safe. Except for that one day he took a mulligan. False equivalence is unbecoming and should only be done by professionals.
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jcburns said on October 9, 2016 at 12:19 pm
Pilot Joe, I think President Obama did a superb job of picking up experience while on the job, which may be the best place to pick it up.
That’s another reason why I’m enthused about Hillary Clinton: she hasn’t been President, but she’s been in the White House working on multiple levels. She knows what works there.
By the way, the Trump defenders who are determined to make Bill Clinton’s sexual past an issue in this campaign—what is it with them trying to blame his wife—the candidate—for his transgressions?
I don’t blame Pat Nixon, Nancy Reagan, Jackie Kennedy, Eleanor Roosevelt, or Mamie Eisenhower.
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adrianne said on October 9, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Best thing I’ve read today, Charles Pierce’s righteous fury: When it won, the party opted for triumphalism. When it lost, it opted for obstruction. It has blown through democratic norms in every branch of the government. In the executive, it lied and tortured and worked almost exclusively to shove as much of the country’s wealth upwards. As a legislative majority, it has consistently refused to do even the most fundamental tasks of governing the country. In the judiciary, the judges so carefully nurtured in the think-tank terrariums of the organized Right have let loose a flood of money into our politics and have worked assiduously to carve away the franchise from the people who might most inconvenience the party on Election Day. They have come dangerously close to completing the project of creating a new Jim Crow to ensure a new Gilded Age. And now, there are not sufficient roosts for all the chickens. If you have a party dedicated to vandalism and nihilism, how can you possibly be surprised when your presidential nomination is spirited away by a career vandal and a superior nihilist?
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jcburns said on October 9, 2016 at 1:20 pm
Here’s the link to the Charles Pierce piece Adrianne quoted: America Has Been Waiting for Donald Trump
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adrianne said on October 9, 2016 at 1:32 pm
Thanks, JC! Worth reading the whole thing.
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Jakash said on October 9, 2016 at 1:35 pm
Pilot Joe,
“Because the left said … Obama’s inexperience didn’t matter.” Well, it sure didn’t matter much, because, though inexperienced, he was plenty smart and knowledgeable about stuff that a guy like Rump has absolutely no clue about. And, when you have an opposition party whose PRIMARY goal was to try to make sure Obama failed (There’s patriotism for you), how much experience in dealing with legislatures would have mattered? He had LOADS of experience by the time he nominated Merrick Garland, which was a very carefully considered choice. Did that make a shred of difference?
He’s had an effective, scandal-free administration that has economically outperformed what Romney was promising. He’s represented a sterling example of family values, unlike Rump and his band of twice-divorced, “everybody cheats” enablers. I suppose if you wish we’d gone to war in Iran, you could gripe about that, but his foreign policy demonstrates the art of the possible in a very messy world. He’s acted and spoken more like a Christian than many lefties even like, but is still thought to be an America-hating Muslim by unhinged Republicans. Really, look at where the country was in 2008 and look at where it is now. If this had been achieved by President McCain, he’d be considered the great president that Obama deserves to be thought of (and is, by folks who don’t wallow in the right-wing loonysphere.)
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jcburns said on October 9, 2016 at 1:36 pm
Nice, Jakash. Two of the best paragraphs to this point I’ve read in weeks.
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David C. said on October 9, 2016 at 2:10 pm
Other than Grover Cleveland, what President has had previous experience?
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Sherri said on October 9, 2016 at 3:17 pm
Can we spare a moment to consider the gutlessness of NBC? Once they found the tape, they spent days worrying about whether Donald Trump would sue them (and presumably trying to figure out a way to mitigate the further damage to the Today show.) Huntley-Brinkley it’s not anymore.
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Diane said on October 9, 2016 at 3:20 pm
While I enjoyed the piece very much, I fear that Mr. Pierce is being unduly optimistic in his use of the word culmination.
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brian stouder said on October 9, 2016 at 3:26 pm
Basset – I very much enjoyed how beautiful down-state Indiana is, right now; lots of harvesting was going on in the fields, and some colors seem to be coming on in the trees.
Loogootee had the best gasoline prices, and I gassed up (at $1.98/gallon) there, where the highway runs straight into a McDonald’s (grabbed a pancake/sausage thing there, which was piping hot, fresh off the griddle, and very good!), and there’s a Marathon off to the left.
When you get to Gentryville, the forest and woods pretty much engulf you, and it’s not hard to imagine just how much more imposing the challenge – to carve out a living, there – must have been, in 1816 when the Lincolns arrived.
Your part of the state is much more rolling and beautiful than my part of the state. (The glaciers flattened everything from here to south of Indy)
I also liked the new stretch of I-69 (past Bloomington) – a genuinely pleasant excursion
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brian stouder said on October 9, 2016 at 3:33 pm
Sheri – there’s almost certainly a (literal) shit-load more of embarrassing video of Donald Trump reducing women to (essentially) inflated sex-toys, and all with his annoying chortling and snideness, from the video vaults of Mark Burnett’s production company.
Those guys made The Apprentice, and former contestants and others attest that he was ALWAYS talkin’ shit like that, in front of all the cameras on set.
His “locker-room” talk is unacceptable enough in any locker room I’ve ever been in…and he seems to view the entire damned world as one big locker room.
NBC (or whoever) should offer Burnett whatever money he wants, and we should get those videos
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brian stouder said on October 9, 2016 at 3:38 pm
…and by the way, before we hear the Donald again try and deflect this away with any kind of “locker room” excuse, let us consider Donald’s common sense.
If you are on a bus, loaded with cameras and microphones and technicians, and in fact you’re WEARING a microphone, what would make you think “I can talk shit all I want”?
And indeed – when you’re on a set at NBC (or wherever the Apprentice/Burnett studio was), and you have 4 or 5 big TV cameras lit up and operational, and all the production people are in place and rockin’ and rollin’ – how is THAT like being in a locker-room?
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LAMary said on October 9, 2016 at 3:44 pm
We had subscriptions to Car and Driver and Road and Track coming to our house all the time I was growing up. I had four older brothers. I knew who Brock Yates was and I explained who he was to the males in my house yesterday.
We also got Mechanics Illustrated, Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, Sports Afield and some publication about fishing.
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ROGirl said on October 9, 2016 at 4:32 pm
The Trump women present a united front.
https://imgflip.com/i/1c0aos
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Sherri said on October 9, 2016 at 4:57 pm
Burnett is apparently supporting Trump, and has threatened to sue anyone who leaks anything from the Apprentice.
Trump says and does anything he wants, because he doesn’t expect any consequences. If there are any consequences, he attacks and expects to win.
That’s what his base of support loves about him.
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Judybusy said on October 9, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Jakash @ 34, thanks. Well-stated.
We’re having friends over to watch the debate tonight. I watched the first one alone, as my wife couldn’t stomach it. We’ll see if she joins the 3 of us! I am very curious about what questions the candidates will be asked.
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David C. said on October 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm
I agree with your wife, Judybusy. I couldn’t stomach it either. I’ll read about it tomorrow morning so I can sleep tonight.
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basset said on October 9, 2016 at 7:24 pm
Brian, I remember when there was a Dog & Suds where that McDonald’s is now… are they even around any more?
That is indeed some pretty country, it can be tough to live in though.
So what can you share with us from the Lincoln convention?
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basset said on October 9, 2016 at 7:28 pm
Hmm. Wiki says there were over 600 Dog & Suds locations at its peak, now down to 14.
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David C. said on October 9, 2016 at 8:11 pm
We called our local Dog & Suds Arf & Barf. Did everyone else, or was that a Grand Rapids thing.
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Jakash said on October 9, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Thanks, JCBurns and Judybusy!
As for the debate, I don’t know how I’ll be able to stand it, but I don’t know how we can’t watch. Skipping the VP affair worked out well, though. I guess we’ll watch, prepared to bail, if and when necessary…
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