Mooooo.

Man, am I growing weary of idiots.

Which ones? Let’s start with the pretty people behind “Ballerina Farm,” i.e. the stage set for Hannah and Daniel Neeleman, who have made a career out of, first, being trust funders (him) and later, online influencers, a combination that should make everyone with three working brain cells reel in terror. Why are they idiots? Well…

According to a new report from KPCW, shortly after the Neelemans opened their farm stand, the farm’s raw milk failed two safety tests. KPCW reviewed records from the Utah Department of Agriculture and Food and found that samples tested in May and June had high levels of coliform, the family of bacteria that includes E. coli.

Yes, the Neelemans, Bobby Brainworm and the co-editor of The Detroit News editorial page are all on the raw-milk bandwagon. And now the Neelemans have discovered what everyone who deals with dairy cows in any capacity learns within 24 hours of putting one in your pasture or barn: They are literal shit machines, and it gets on everything.

We’re all shit machines, of course. But I think it was Jim Harrison who quipped that cattle are a machine that turns grass into shit, and a lot of it. Raw-milk aficionados like to talk about how clean and well-cared-for the cows that produce their raw milk are, but I’ve never seen one that doesn’t produce pounds and pounds of poop, around the clock. What’s more, it’s wet and splattery. About the only good thing you can say about cow shit is that it doesn’t smell bad. But I’ve spent time in lots of barns, and the only one I’ve seen that was surprisingly clean was Select Sires, an outfit in Plain City, Ohio, where bovine sires live out their days being jacked off by people for the purpose of selling their semen. Honestly, the place was immaculate. I imagine they have staff who do nothing but wait for a tail to lift, then dash over with a shovel to catch it as it comes out.

Simply washing an udder before milking is not enough to combat a typical dairy barn’s germ array.

Get this quote, from Mr. Ballerina:

“Producing raw milk takes careful planning from a facility and infrastructure standpoint,” Daniel Neeleman said in a statement to The Cut. “Unfortunately, we learned this after the fact.”

You’d think someone intending to go into selling dairy products would learn it before the fact, but when you’ve got 10 million followers, and they hang on your every post, why bother?

So that’s idiot batch #1. Here’s #2:

From her roughly $50,000 annual salary as a data processor in San Diego, (Kiely) Reedy, 34, spends at least $200 to $300 a week on food delivery. Ordering in has eaten away at her savings, she said, and led her to socialize less. She tips generously, but worries that the delivery drivers are poorly paid.

“I feel reliant upon it,” she said, “but guilt for using it.”

Food delivery, which skyrocketed during the pandemic as a practical necessity, has become even more entrenched in the years since as a convenience, an everyday alternative to cooking or eating out. DoorDash is now a verb. And the new delivery economy is transforming the way Americans live — reshaping budgets, mealtimes and social habits.

Fifty thousand dollars isn’t a very big salary, especially in San Diego, but Reedy estimates she spends close to a grand a month on takeout? And not fancy takeout, either, but stuff like spaghetti with marinara sauce, a meal she could easily make at home with two pots, running water and the initiative to go to a grocery and buy a pound of pasta and a jar of Prego.

I shared this with some friends on a text chain earlier this week. Said one: “I hate everyone in this story.”

We don’t eat out much, but among my rituals on a self-care Saturday is to take myself out to breakfast at a Detroit Coney Island, all alone, and spend the 40 minutes or so letting someone else cook my eggs and pour my coffee while I read the news. I’m often astonished by the pile of styrofoam go-boxes on the counter, awaiting some delivery person’s pickup. Diner food has a shelf life maybe 40 seconds longer than fast food; imagine ordering McDonald’s or an omelet and then waiting 20 or 30 minutes past plating to actually eat it. We visited Toronto a few years ago, and starting around noon the bike lanes would be full of brown men pedaling away with giant cooler-boxes worn backpack-style. I thought then, and I think now: Thank you, mom, for teaching me how to make a sandwich.

I know, I know — that’s the privilege talking, and I don’t understand how hard people have to work now, and how cooking is a luxury now, and I get it. But if you’re impacting your own savings to afford mediocre delivery chow, I recommend you consider another line of work.

Maybe open a dairy farm, and sell raw milk.

Happy Wednesday, and a reminder that one member of the entrepreneurial class who gave us all of the above, influencing and social media and the gig economy, among other terrors, is today in the process of driving the Washington Post into a ditch. Move fast, break things, etc.

Posted at 11:23 am in Current events, Popculch |
 

35 responses to “Mooooo.”

  1. alex said on February 4, 2026 at 12:05 pm

    We eat out a lot and tip generously ever since COVID because we want to support local businesses and waitstaff, and I must say that we definitely notice the huge number of delivery drivers picking up orders. In a few places it seems like it’s the majority of their business, but at least they’re still in business. We seldom have food delivered because I like to cook, and if I’m not cooking I’d rather get out of the house.

    We’ve become reliant on Amazon, however. Despite the urge to boycott it, we find that retail stores these days don’t stock much of a selection of things even if they have them at all. A case in point: I spent days going around to different stores with a tape measure trying to find kitchen drawer organizers with the dimensions I wanted, and saw absolutely nothing suitable. I could type the dimensions in on Amazon and get hundreds of hits and get what I wanted the next day. Likewise with so many other things.

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  2. Alan Stamm said on February 4, 2026 at 12:22 pm

    Blundering Bezos is called out by Semafor newsletter media editor Max Tani.

    The Post’s “downward spiral [was] vastly worsened by Bezos’ decision not to endorse then-Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election,” he writes.

    “The move…may have pleased Trump world, but turned out to be disastrous for the Post’s business. The non-endorsement infuriated the left-leaning local and national audience, who felt betrayed by a paper that just a few years earlier had rolled out its ‘Democracy Dies in Darkness’ slogan. Subscribers jumped ship, as did journalistic and business talent.”

    Jeff Stein, chief economics correspondent at the Post, tells Tani that reporters “are being punished for mistakes they did not cause.”

    https://www.semafor.com/newsletter/02/04/2026/washington-post-to-make-significant-cuts-to-remake-paper

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  3. Peter said on February 4, 2026 at 12:37 pm

    “…But I’ve spent time in lots of barns, and the only one I’ve seen that was surprisingly clean was Select Sires, an outfit in Plain City, Ohio, where bovine sires live out their days being jacked off by people for the purpose of selling their semen…”

    At first, I thought that when I’m old and needing money I would have to become a sales rep for the McDonald’s Corporation, but here’s a career opportunity I have to look into. Of course, by the time I’ll need the money, I’ll have to compete with Steven Miller and Pam Bondi for that job, but that’s a small price to pay to get back to a functioning democracy.

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  4. nancy said on February 4, 2026 at 12:49 pm

    Ha ha. I would imagine handing the AV — the A stands for artificial, the V is guess-what — is a job for a specialist, but I bet you’re trainable, Peter.

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  5. Dave said on February 4, 2026 at 1:02 pm

    I’m wondering about Dorothy’s daughter.

    Bezos, truly an example of I’ll never get enough money so I’ll do whatever it takes to get more.

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  6. Julie Robinson said on February 4, 2026 at 1:15 pm

    My grandparents had a dairy farm and Nancy couldn’t be more correct about the shit situation. Their barn had a trough under their tails which collected most of it. Then a mechanical system carried it out to the manure pile, which he spread on the fields every single day of the year. The milk was pasteurized in a separate room, then everything was sluiced down with sanitizer and a hose. He was relentless, twice a day, every day of the year.

    What they’ve done is unconscionable. I would hope they’d be prosecuted but I doubt they will.

    There are so many food restrictions in this house that eating out is rare. The concept of paying someone to bring you food you have to warm up again? My Midwest thriftiness does not compute this.

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  7. Nancy Friedman said on February 4, 2026 at 1:20 pm

    Speaking of billionaires, here’s a tasty quote from Sean Burns, publisher of North Shore Movies (Gloucester, MA):

    “Given the indignities these masters of the universe are willing to endure while groveling before Trump, I also wonder whatever happened to having ‘fuck you’ money? I thought the whole point of being wealthy was that you don’t have to kiss anyone’s ass anymore. The richer these guys get, the more it seems like it should be called ‘thank you sir, may I have another’ money.”

    https://northshoremovies.wpcomstaging.com/2026/01/31/review-melania/

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  8. Deborah said on February 4, 2026 at 1:59 pm

    I was following Ballerina Farms on Instagram a while ago, because it was kind of a train wreck fascination. The life they lead in Utah with 8 kids is crazy. Hannah had a bunch of photos of herself in beauty pageants etc. She’s a lovely looking woman after having 8 kids she must have amazing genes to be able to get back in shape so quickly after each birth. They showed a million reels of her fixing food and carrying babies around nonstop. She gave birth to most of those kids at home, with no medical intervention except for midwives, I can’t even imagine what that must have been like over and over again. She had the last one basically on camera starting in her bath tub and ending almost in the toilet. Honestly, it was weird. After I quit Instagram and returned after about a year I had enough, I’ve gotten over the morbid curiosity of it all.

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  9. Scout said on February 4, 2026 at 2:11 pm

    We eat out way more than we should, especially since one of us is retired and the other (me) is semi-retired. Seems that instead of meal planning, shopping and prep we’d rather play pickleball and then go to happy hour with all our new dinker friends.

    That said, we recently started subscribing to HomeChef. Once a week we get 3 meal packages with the exact amount of ingredients needed, prep time takes about a half hour, and the meals are restaurant quality delicious.

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  10. Dorothuy said on February 4, 2026 at 2:19 pm

    Thanks Dave. She is still employed, but knew this was coming. It’s just sickening. And she actually moved into a new position effective 2/1/26 so she is consumed with conflicted feelings, as you can imagine. I can’t go into details about her new job.

    Anyone working at newspapers these days knows the writing is on the wall. For now she’s going to be all right. But she’ll be shoring up her savings and her feet on the ground going forward, as she always has been.

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  11. Dexter Friend said on February 4, 2026 at 2:21 pm

    On MSNOW they daily say “fuck”, “shit” and the granddaddy, “motherfucker”. Joe Scarborough started it, and even Mika said “fuck” last week, usually a quote, but when Joe gets rolling, man, he’ll scream out a loud “THESE FUCKERS…” frequently. In the past year, gentle Nicolle Wallace has read quotes using f-bombs weekly. I also love watching James Carville on YouTube, who talks like I do, meaning he lets it all flow, no censorship at all.
    Last night on Toledo 13, a story with repeating video of a DoorDash fiasco. A woman of maybe 35 years delivered food to an apartment building which was structured with apartments inside a huge building, like a motel or hotel . 5 feet from the apartment door, the person stuck her hand into her crotch, I mean right in there to the genitals, I suppose getting up a good little lather , and spread it on the food bags. 13 played it like 6 times. I was eating dinner and well, half my dinner went into the garbage after that.
    The customer recorded it, said she put on sanitary gloves and threw the stuff into the outside bin. DoorDash fired the creep, took the bill off the customer’s card, and gifted her $50. The resident said that $50 will never be used. She said nevermore, never again, no food deliveries.
    Just yesterday my cousin from Ossian, IN emailed me, saying he can’t remember much from our childhood anymore. He’s nearly 79 now. I reminded him of a few things, one was how when we stayed a few days on the family farm of my grandparents we would have cereal with ice cold raw milk with the cream clogging the top of the bottle. My uncle milked the cows and every evening lug up a 2-gallon pail of warm milk up to the house to bottle for the next day. Sometimes we’d be offered a warm taste of fresh milk, and I mean fresh. I never could stand it, but never got enough of it when it was chilled to the brink of freezing.
    Now I would never drink any of it, but the memories of Grandma’s fresh-baked from scratch chocolate chip cookies and ice cold raw milk comfort me . I don’t do much these days but take joy rides into the country but my memories 1955-1962 are still with me.

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  12. Colleen said on February 4, 2026 at 2:27 pm

    Guilty of too much eating out here. We don’t have it delivered. I work from home– I want to get out of the house.

    I’m with Alex on Amazon. I don’t have it in me to traipse all over town looking for something I likely won’t be able to find when I can have multiple choices at my fingertips. I have started ordering some food staples from them as well….that box of cereal that’s 10 dollars at Publix can be had for 5 and change AND be delivered to my front porch.

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  13. Suzanne said on February 4, 2026 at 2:32 pm

    There is no doubt in my mind that Bezos bought the WaPo in order to destroy it. It’s not about the money, never has been. It’s about power. One would think that people like him would believe they have so much money that they could say a hale a hardy “F… You” to anyone and anything, but no. Bezos funds this Melania doc to curry favor with Trump because he thinks it will give him more power and shutting down the WaPo will do the same. But will it? Time will tell.

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  14. David C said on February 4, 2026 at 3:14 pm

    My grandfather retired from dairy farming the year I was born. He knew raw milk wasn’t safe. My grandmother had a pasteurizer and nobody was allowed to drink the raw milk. Sarah Taber had a couple of videos about raw milk on her YouTube channel. She said that most farmers who swore they drank nothing but raw milk and they were fine were actually drinking pasteurized milk. Their wives pasteurized it and since that was women’s work the farmer didn’t know it was happening.

    I have to disagree about cow shit not smelling bad. I mean, it isn’t pig shit which will knock the paint off a car, but it gets pretty ripe. Especially on a humid day. I grew up across the street from and worked summers on a dairy farm, so I’m pretty well acquainted with it.

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  15. Peter said on February 4, 2026 at 3:20 pm

    Nancy, you think I’m trainable? That’s the nicest thing anyone’s said to me in months.

    I read one person explaining the Post problems and the Melania Movie: “to be fair to Bezos, as a businessman you have to do what’s best for the business, regardless of your opinions or feelings. He’s doing what he has to do to maximize profits, as distasteful it may be.”

    That’s what Krupps and the rest of the Ruhr conglomerates were saying in 1933; to be fair to them, most of them made it out OK in 1945.

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  16. David C said on February 4, 2026 at 4:12 pm

    The Post’s correspondent in Kyiv was freezing and dodging bombs covering the war. They laid her off. I guess you don’t need a war correspondent when you can take dictation from Trump.

    https://bsky.app/profile/bgrueskin.bsky.social/post/3me2eetroks26

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  17. Andrea said on February 4, 2026 at 5:11 pm

    A workaround on the Amazon problem for me has been to identify the brand of the item I want, then go to THEIR website and order the item directly from them. I recently did this when I bought a humidifier and it was the same price as what was on Amazon. So basically I use Amazon to shop, but not to buy.

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  18. Sherri said on February 4, 2026 at 5:44 pm

    At $50K pre year, our young data processor makes below the 50% level for a single person family in Area Median Income for San Diego County. She’s likely renting a room in a house with other people, which runs on average $1200/month in San Diego. Even a studio apartment would see her significantly cost-burdened for rent; those are about $2000/month, or almost 50% of her income.

    My guess is that she’s not saving anything; I don’t see how she could be. If she’s got a car, there’s not a lot left over to save after putting gas in it and insuring it (and San Diego isn’t an easy place to live without a car.) if she’s got student loans, that’s another chunk heading out the door. I don’t see how she’s making it spending that much on delivery. Either there’s a mounting credit card debt that’s just getting the minimum paid, or mom and dad are helping her out.

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  19. Julie Robinson said on February 4, 2026 at 6:45 pm

    Dorothy, I’m glad your daughter survived another round of cuts but the remaining employees must be so demoralized. Theater gone, books gone, all staff photographers gone. A journalist at the Olympics also gone, though he says he’ll still file reports.

    I’ve enjoyed the book reviewer Ron Charles’ weekly newsletter, and found the books he featured more to my liking than the NYT. He’s been a stalwart for reading freedom and volunteers for PEN America. He and his wife also have an adult daughter with profound developmental delays, and spend most of their income paying for her care. It pains me greatly.

    Democracy dies in darkness? More like democracy dies here.

    Anyway, I filed our taxes today so I guess it’s time for my annual rant about the “speedy” tax software many of us use*. Our computer can’t be updated to Windows 11, so I had to use the online version, which truly sucks eggs. We got an unexpectedly large refund, because the one big ugly bill gave seniors an additional deduction of 6K each. Guess we’ll use some of it for a new computer.

    *Just can’t quit it. Don’t want to type in all our info, but I really should find an alternative next year. Had planned to use free file, but we all know what happened to that.

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  20. Deborah said on February 4, 2026 at 10:14 pm

    I quit WaPo and Amazon after Bezos wouldn’t endorse Harris, but had been backsliding on Amazon and now I have renewed incentive to ditch it for good. Andrea, good idea to use Amazon for shopping but not buying, I need to remember that.

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  21. Pam H said on February 5, 2026 at 8:18 am

    I’ve been boycotting Amazon for years. With very little effort, it is possible to get them down to 1-3 or so purchases a year. I have a Kindle reader and never buy books for it. I will wait weeks to get the book from the library (free). I also use Amazon to shop, but not buy. Many many Amazon dealers are also on Ebay, so I go there. Larger companies have their own sites as well as Amazon. Ebay is a different buying experience but it works for me for stuff like toothbrush heads for my Oral B, and lots more ordinary household items.

    My son believes that Amazon makes you buy from them simply because their returns are so easy and most other vendors are not. That has to be murder for the serious (not China crap) sellers on Amazon.

    Not buying from Amazon lets you not only flip off Bezos, but also save a lot of money. I saw one Ebay seller last week who was selling the parts from used or broken snow blowers. He has an excellent reputation. I put several of his items in my watch page just to see and he sold them all during the snowstorm days. New snowblowers cost a fortune so with a used part and a YouTube video, you fix it yourself.

    I used to admire Bezos back at the beginning, but now he’s just a sleazy POS with an equally sleazy hooker like wife. I have a subscription to the WAPO for the content. I hate to see what’s happening there. If Americans don’t open their eyes and fast . . . .

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  22. Casey Confoy said on February 5, 2026 at 9:16 am

    I was in Jersey City last week – saw these guys roaming all over:

    A small fleet of robots are available for delivery from a handful of restaurants in downtown Jersey City. Customers can choose a robot or traditional courier. And, no, tips will not be charged for robot deliveries.

    The high-tech devices carrying your favorite meal can go about 5 mph. There are sensors to help them avoid bumping into cars and pedestrians.

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  23. Icarus said on February 5, 2026 at 9:18 am

    I’m hearing that the Save Act passed in the house and the Senate is waiting until closer to midterms (if we have them) to pass it. That could cause millions of married women to be turned away at polling places because their driver’s licenses don’t match their birth certificates.

    I haven’t seen anything that specifically states the perfect matching requirement, but I can see how this would be an intended consequence.

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  24. alex said on February 5, 2026 at 10:03 am

    That’s a great tip — using Amazon to shop but buying directly from the vendor.

    I’ve made a few purchases on eBay and I’ve been quite pleased. The last one was a walk-behind leaf blower which we need because we have a very large wooded property but we also live in an HOA where we’re expected to keep things tidy. I did my research and found that the Little Wonder brand was the best. Then I went out shopping and found the prices staggering. I almost purchased one from a local retailer but went online and found one on eBay at less than half the price. It had never been unpackaged. It had sat in the inventory of a shop in Michigan for two years and was no longer considered a current model and they just wanted to unload it, so I drove up and saved myself the shipping cost in addition to a bargain price. And when I sent the warranty card in, the manufacturer accepted it.

    I made the mistake of re-subscribing to the Post, but this time I’m paying month-to-month instead of a year up front and I can quit any time and probably will. I imagine the dwindling content will be noticeable shortly. I was receiving their food newsletter but the writer, Daniela Galarza, announced her firing yesterday and says she doesn’t know what’s going to happen with the food section.

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  25. ROGirl said on February 5, 2026 at 10:29 am

    Ebay suits my purposes much more than Amazon for selection and prices. I bought a “refurbished” Cuisinart coffee maker that was actually new and had probably been returned unused, at a used price.

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  26. susan said on February 5, 2026 at 1:29 pm

    I have been doing the shop-on-Amazon, buy-on-eBay for years. Just now I got a terrific deal on 50mm seed-starter pellets on eBay — quarter of the price I saw on Amazon. eBay is often my go-to place. One time I got scammed by an iPod seller; I never got the product. eBay reimbursed me. Sometimes Etsy works out well for some things, too.

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  27. Julie Robinson said on February 5, 2026 at 1:55 pm

    Yep, Food’s gone too. My Eating Voraciously newsletter this morning said it was going on hiatus. It said recipes will still be available online. I suppose the next time they update their software those will be gone too. So print out the recipes you want now.

    Or import your recipes to a portal or app. We’ve tried a few over the years and have settled on ReciMe for the time being. You can import from online or your own printed recipes. I had a beautifully organized binder, but none of the rest of the family can get with the concept of putting a sheet back where it came from, so it’s a big mess. It’s not easy holding back the ADHD around here.

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  28. Mark P said on February 5, 2026 at 3:14 pm

    I went to grad school with a guy whose family owned a dairy farm. He talked about watching the milk flow through transparent tubes as the cows were on the milking machines. He said occasionally a wart would be snipped off or something and the milk turned pink from the blood. Yummy!

    For those who so kindly expressed concern about my wife, here’s an update. She went yesterday to a nursing/rehab facility for PT. One of the major concerns has been that she will get out of bed unassisted and might fall. They told me today she spent most of last night walking the halls demanding that someone call 911, or asking for me. On a maybe positive note, she is walking much better. The exits are locked, by the way.

    One bad thing is that she’s an hour from our house.

    I assume she will be here for the full 20 days that Medicare pays for. After that? I have no idea.

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  29. Mark P said on February 5, 2026 at 3:54 pm

    One of the staff told me Medicare will pay 100 days. I can’t see that being necessary. A room costs $300 per day for private pay. That’s not quite $110,000 a year.

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  30. Sherri said on February 5, 2026 at 4:05 pm

    I’ve been reading and trying to understand the white evangelical position on immigration and borders as it currently stands*, as they articulate it. The challenge, with white evangelicals, is trying to find sources that aren’t too fringe; the fringe has become more and more prominent, though, so it’s hard to identify what is actually fringe.

    But Speaker of the House Mike Johnson posted a long apologetic of the Christian position on immigration and borders, as he sees it. From my understanding of his argument, there are three main points:

    1. God is fine with borders. They’re all over the Old Testament.

    2. “Love your neighbor” is a commandment to us as individuals, not directed at a government.

    3. It is just for a government to enforce laws and protect its residents, to keep order and prevent chaos, and we are to follow those laws.

    The thinking seems to be that it’s not that we hate the undocumented person, it’s just that we love the people here so much and we can’t care for them here, too, because it disrupts order, or we don’t have the resources. We’ll love them back where they came from, I guess.

    I’m not surprised by this take. It’s the same thinking that said we should direct a black person to one of their churches. It was the same thinking that was silent, at best, or opposed to the civil rights movement. We love our neighbor, as long as it doesn’t make us uncomfortable. If we start to feel uncomfortable, we think our neighbor should go somewhere else.

    Myself, I think they worship a very small god, if this is their concept of the love of God. It was bad enough when I grew up in it, and it’s gotten dramatically worse as they have chosen to completely align with Republican politics over anything else. They used abortion to convince themselves they were godly and moral and never noticed the path they were on to cruel treatment of the least of these among us.

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  31. alex said on February 5, 2026 at 4:28 pm

    Well I finally gave in and bought an Atlantic subscription, which will no doubt hinder my efforts to quit doom scrolling so damned much, but at least I’ll get to read more than tantalizing tidbits of paywalled stories that people link to in their blogs and social media. To hell with the Washington Post.

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  32. ROGirl said on February 5, 2026 at 4:32 pm

    I haven’t installed this, but it looks awesome.

    https://www.abbyhaddican.com/times-new-resistance

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  33. Sherri said on February 5, 2026 at 5:11 pm

    I had not read this from the Rev. Dr. Barber when I posted my sermon, and he is unquestionably more eloquent and learned than I: https://open.substack.com/pub/ourmoralmoment/p/were-you-there-when-they-crucified

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  34. Suzanne said on February 5, 2026 at 7:00 pm

    I listened to this podcast today which helps shed some light on Christian Nationalist thinking-
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reign-of-error-with-sarah-posner/id1866624168?i=1000748336852

    This also is quite informative:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/maga-christians-betray-ethics-ice/685679/

    In a nutshell, they no longer worship Jesus and follow his way but use him as a prop to gain power. He’s too wimpy for them with all that love stuff but saying you like him gets you votes.

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  35. Deborah said on February 5, 2026 at 10:28 pm

    I’ve gotten some fantastic deals on eBay over the years, most have been seconds of high end brands. One was a beautiful copper pot from the French company Mauviel, a jam pan with brass handles. I paid half price for it even though it was new, never used. I use it in the cabin to wash dishes in, but mostly I think of it as a piece of art hanging from a peg in the “kitchen area” of the cabin. It took me years to find the tiny flaw that made it a second.

    I also got a Braun coffee grinder on eBay that was used but rebuilt, I’ve had it for many years, also out at the cabin. In Chicago we have the same Braun coffee grinder that my husband bought before I knew him, probably 40 years ago and it still works like a charm.

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