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What were they thinking?

One of those names from the past that only comes up every decade or so came up last night. What­ever hap­pened to, etc.? We recalled that this per­son had been involved in an interof­fice romance, which led to a par­tic­u­larly tawdry interof­fice breakup, the sort of inci­dent that makes man­agers long to be in the rank and file again.

(There’s one of these in every man­age­ment career — when you have to tell peo­ple it’s not their work that’s the prob­lem, it’s their b.o. Or their whack-ass melt­down over a love affair gone wrong. What­ever.)

Alan said, “She’s the rea­son com­pa­nies have no-fraternization poli­cies.” Yep. I never worked for one of those com­pa­nies myself; if I had I’d be mar­ried to some­one else today, if I were mar­ried at all, and Kate wouldn’t exist. News­rooms, well-known as turkey pens of coltish intel­lects, weird hours, incom­pe­tent man­age­ment, triple homi­cides on dead­line and other spicy ingre­di­ents, are noto­ri­ous for breed­ing office love affairs. I think of the jour­nal­ists I know, and most are/were mar­ried to peo­ple they met at work, some seri­ally, which is to say first this per­son from work, then that per­son from work. This can get com­pli­cated, oh yes it can. Office divorces and/or affairs have sold more quitting-time beers than Bud­weiser.

I met and mar­ried my hus­band through work, but even after the I-dos, we played it cool. Alan hated talk­ing about domes­tic mat­ters out in the open. He didn’t even want me to ask what he wanted for din­ner. All around us were cou­ples who held hands on the way to the Coke machine, or wives who marched over to col­lect hubby’s pay­check the minute it was dis­trib­uted on pay­day. I’m sure he con­sid­ered it a huge suc­cess when we threw a party and one of his own staff mem­bers was amazed to dis­cover I lived in the same house, that we were in fact mar­ried and had been for about five years.

(Actu­ally, I con­sid­ered it a suc­cess, too, since it seemed to indi­cate I was such a bor­ing per­son no one even both­ered to gos­sip about me any­more.)

I hes­i­tate to bring up this topic, not because every­one has a story, but because everyone’s story is bet­ter than mine. Maybe Alex will tell us about the secu­rity cam­era that in one of his for­mer work­places cap­tured an episode of oral love between a man and a woman who thought­fully removed her den­tures for the occa­sion. Maybe Kirk will tell us about the cou­ple who was caught not only hav­ing an extra­mar­i­tal interof­fice affair, but writ­ing a porno­graphic novel with bondage themes in what they thought was a secret cor­ner of the news­room com­puter sys­tem. (I pinned down one of the bosses who read this trea­sure and said I’d be will­ing to do just about any­thing to see a sam­ple chap­ter. He said, “It wouldn’t be a fair trade. It wasn’t nearly as good as it could have been.”) And then there was the young reporter who slept with an older col­league on his living-room couch after an impromptu party when his wife was away, gave him crabs, caused a cri­sis in his mar­riage (to say the least) and then later, when the par­a­sites had been routed and the wounds had finally started to scab, showed up at another party where the wife was in atten­dance, along with her chil­dren. “Mommy,” said the lit­tle boy. “I saw that lady lying down with daddy on our couch once.” (That story may be some­what apoc­ryphal, but it still cracks me up.) Or the obsessed Glenn Close wannabe who demanded her lover, as the price of dump­ing her, insert a secret mes­sage to her in his news­pa­per col­umn. She said this would be their secret. It remained secret for approx­i­mately as long as it took to sur­vive edit­ing and get onto the press. As the papers arrived in the news­room, she showed it around, point­ing out how the first let­ter in every para­graph spelled out, “I love you Joanie.”

None of those sto­ries are mine, in the sense that they didn’t hap­pen at my work­place, but were shared over beers later. It’s amaz­ing to me that I heard them all and still sought out and mar­ried a col­league. It’s not like we weren’t warned.

So, blog­gage:

You know how you get those e-mails from Niger­ian scam artists ask­ing for your help in remov­ing $6 mil­lion from the national trea­sury, offer­ing a 30 per­cent reward and ask­ing only that you put up some of your own cash as secu­rity? You know how you ask your­selves, “Who could ever be so stu­pid as to fall for this?” We have an answer: The trea­surer of Alcona County, Michi­gan.

Today’s fore­cast calls for a chance of snow in Michi­gan. Unless, of course, it gets rerouted to south­ern Cal­i­for­nia again. Jeez, I remem­ber being in LA once when it rained, and it had the same effect on traf­fic as eight inches of snow does here. I can’t imag­ine what actual snow does to the place. Besides freeze the oranges.

When­ever I hear a nitwit like Dinesh D’Souza push­ing his lat­est book, I think to myself, “Main­tain your sense of humor.” How­ever, it’s dif­fi­cult. For­tu­nately, we have Stephen Col­bert to shore us up in the dif­fi­cult moments.

34 responses to
“What were they thinking?”

  1. Kirk said on January 18th, 2007 at 11:09 am

    Nance, one of the chil­dren of the daddy who passed his sweetie’s cooties on to mommy did indeed say some­thing along those lines, my source says. And a few years later, I stuck my foot in my mouth when I was mak­ing cracks about the inci­dent to another woman who works here and was, unbe­knownst to me, on the path to mar­ry­ing cootie daddy (they remain hap­pily mar­ried; he has dealt with his lat­est mid-life cri­sis by annex­ing an ear­ring).

    as for the bondage novel in the com­puter sys­tem, you pretty much cov­ered what i know about it. i wasn’t high enough on the totem pole at the time to have the priv­i­lege of read­ing any of it. among the sad­dest parts of that story is that those idiots really believed that they had access to a part of the com­puter sys­tem that no one would ever find.

    i’ll see if i can remem­ber any other juicy episodes.

    (and, of course, i met my wife when she worked here, too).

  2. Dorothy said on January 18th, 2007 at 11:17 am

    I mar­ried the boy across the street, who moved there the same year we both turned 16. This might sound bor­ing, but we still find each other pretty inter­est­ing, 33+ years after we met, thank heav­ens.

    My copy edi­tor daugh­ter has been dat­ing a page designer since August. She talks of lots of oth­ers at the Pilot who are dating/engaged/married so your obser­va­tion is spot on, of course.

  3. Kirk said on January 18th, 2007 at 11:19 am

    we did have a copy desk chief who was bliss­fully plan­ning her wed­ding to an assis­tant city edi­tor until she was swept off her feet by the assis­tant art direc­tor a few months ago. that one still rever­ber­ates every once in a while.

  4. nancy said on January 18th, 2007 at 11:27 am

    “Rever­ber­ates.” Like a gong, I expect.

    In one of the bad end­ings I recall, one party wanted the walls of her cubi­cle recon­fig­ured, so the entrance wouldn’t face the office path upon which her ex would reli­ably travel sev­eral times a day. She actu­ally asked her bosses for this, at which point they told her, in essence, to buck up.

  5. Kirk said on January 18th, 2007 at 11:29 am

    one detail i for­got: the jilted asst. city edi­tor drinks now (though appar­ently not to excess); he didn’t before.

  6. Danny said on January 18th, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    SoCal dri­vers suck in the rain. Which is unbe­liev­able because many if not most are here from some­where that gets actual weather. As soon as the first rain drop hits we all imme­di­ately swerve into one another.

    But five or six years ago, snow flur­ries did drop on my drive home from work in down­town San Diego. It was on the I-15, ten miles inland from the Pacific, at sea-level or there­abouts. Amaz­ingly every­one main­tained con­trol.

  7. Maryo said on January 18th, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    Weather wimpi­ness hits every­where — when I was a reporter in Albu­querque 20 years ago, peo­ple would go nuts at the first sign of a snowflake. New Mex­ico!!! I ask you.

    Regard­ing intra-newsroom affairs, I thank­fully was on the out­side look­ing in on most of them. I dated a pho­tog­ra­pher once. Couldn’t help it. The job con­sumed most of my life, so what was I sup­posed to do?

  8. brian stouder said on January 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    Well, here in the non-media cor­po­rate world, I once felt my mouth go dry and heard my heart beat­ing in my ears, when my ex-wife came storm­ing into the office to make a splashy shout­ing scene.

    Fate smiled upon me at least to the extent that my ‘sig­nif­i­cant other’ col­league wasn’t in sight dur­ing the incur­sion (and wisely stayed that way!) – cer­tainly spar­ing her a heap­ing dose of the same stuff. Also – the boss was out that day. I remem­ber seek­ing him out imme­di­ately upon his return, so as to tell him about it (‘course, he’d already heard!), and to offer to resign (he seemed gen­uinely puz­zled by that – which was a relief!)

    All in all – not rec­om­mended except for trained pro­fes­sion­als in con­trolled envi­ron­ments!

  9. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    I had co-workers wit­ness my side of a very ugly phone call from the ex once. Not a pleas­ant thing.

  10. Dorothy said on January 18th, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    We had some fun in the office yes­ter­day involv­ing a phone call. I shared a phone num­ber with a co-worker, and it was sup­posed to be a com­pany that assists in get­ting travel visas expe­dited. (I got the num­ber from a dif­fer­ent co-worker about 3 months ago but had never called it.) So Jill dials the num­ber, and a record­ing says (seduc­tively) “Hello! If you’d like to com­mu­ni­cate with hot ladies from your area, you’ve called the right num­ber!” We dialed it twice to make sure and died laugh­ing each time. Turns out the per­son who gave me the num­ber orig­i­nally trans­posed the last two dig­its.

  11. Kirk said on January 18th, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    For sev­eral years, our phone num­ber was a digit off from a num­ber for the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehi­cles. We got about a call a week from peo­ple try­ing to get their driver’s license rein­stated. I always resisted the urge to tell them that they had been banned from dri­ving for life.

  12. colleen said on January 18th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    My par­ents met while they worked at the Day­ton Daily News. Appar­ently they were so dis­creet about it that one of my mom’s friends on staff wanted to set her up with this guy who worked there…and it turned out, uh, they were already dat­ing.

  13. Kevin Knuth said on January 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Old blog­gage returns-

    A while back there was a thread here about “Han­ni­bal Ris­ing”, the new book by Thomas Har­ris.

    I think every­one agreed that “Han­ni­bal” (the book) was terrible- and the movie was even worse!

    How­ever, I am about 2/3 of the way through “Han­ni­bal Ris­ing” and I find it quite good. Not as good as “Red Dragon”….but pretty darn good.

    on the sub­ject of Harris- ONE amaz­ing fact- he has writ­ten 5 books- and ALL OF THEM have been made into movies- one of them twice.

    No won­der he only puts out one book every 9 years or so.

  14. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Speak­ing of peo­ple who make us uncom­fort­able, Paula Abdul is get­ting her own real­ity show.

  15. Kirk said on January 18th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    which will be about as “real” as var­i­ous sec­tions of her face

  16. brian stouder said on January 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    I had co-workers wit­ness my side of a very ugly phone call from the ex

    my side of the con­ver­stion con­sisted almost entirely of “I under­stand”; didn’t want to add any fuel to the fire at all

  17. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    My side of the con­ver­sa­tion was more along the lines of, “I think see­ing your kids should take pri­or­ity over play­ing golf for the sixth week­end in a row.”

    Come to think of it, I had that con­ver­sa­tion a lot before he became an ex.

  18. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Speak­ing of fam­ily life, check out this story. I find it very John Waters-esque.

    http://​www​.msnbc​.msn​.com/​i​d​/​1​6​6​9​2​3​2​0​/​f​r​o​m​/RS.2/

  19. brian stouder said on January 18th, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    I was respond­ing to remarks of a more exis­ten­tial nature – with regard to her exceed­ingly low assess­ment of my cos­mic value.

    Over the years since then, her tone has mel­lowed (even as the assess­ment lives on)….but I digress!

    The only work­place sex story I ever heard (that I believed) involved my best friend; the Deli (which had a back­room) in the open-24-hours super­mar­ket where we worked; and the most soft-spoken, Bambi-like girl in the place.

    Suf­fice it to say, she had inter­est­ing appetites, and the board of health would not have approved

  20. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    I hear work­place sex sto­ries aplenty here at the hos­pi­tal, noth­ing you can’t imag­ine I’m sure. They run more along the lines of which doc­tors are just utterly despi­ca­ble dogs rather than describ­ing exot­ica.

  21. nancy said on January 18th, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    That story is amaz­ing, Mary, if only for the fact that homes for unwed moth­ers still exist. Who knew?

    I found it more David Lynchian than Waters­esque, how­ever.

    How’s that cold snap treat­ing you?

  22. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 6:35 pm

    It’s in the thir­ties in the morn­ing when I leave for work, but it’s in the six­ties by mid after­noon. I’m not quite as much of a weather wuss as some of my neigh­bors. Spend a few win­ters in Col­orado and you’re not eas­ily impressed. The snow in Mal­ibu wasn’t at the beach. It was up one of the passes through the Santa Mon­ica moun­tains so it was pretty high alti­tude. The stretch of the 5 free­way that’s been closed is at pretty high alti­tude as well, and is leg­endary with truck­ers for icing up fre­quently.
    I feel for the cit­rus grow­ers, though. They’ve lost a lot of their fruit. Stock up on the OJ now. It’s going to get expen­sive.

  23. ashley said on January 18th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    I used to live in Hol­ly­weird and South Pasadena. I rode a motor­cy­cle in to work, so when­ever it rained, I would just call in sick. Not worth it.

    My par­ents’ phone num­ber was one pre­fix digit off from a local second-run the­ater. My dad would tell them that if they got there in the next 15 min­utes, it was free admis­sion. I told them that tonight was the first night of our new “all porno” for­mat, and then ad lib suit­able movie titles.

  24. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    Ash­ley
    If you were liv­ing in South Pasadena you likely had to use the dreaded Pasadena Free­way, designed in the thir­ties. Those entrance ramps are pretty chal­leng­ing even when it’s not rain­ing. Per­fect for cars going say, 30mph max.

  25. brian stouder said on January 18th, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    David Lynch is The Man!! And indeed – if he did a movie about such a home, it would surely be good stuff.

    Didja notice it was just out­side Salt Lake City?

    Sounds like Big Love to me….

  26. LA mary said on January 18th, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    I emailed that story to a friend and she agreed on John Waters. She thinks Har­vey Fier­stein should play the house­mother of the way­ward girls home.

  27. brian stouder said on January 18th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    And Paris Hilton would make an inter­est­ing case-worker…

  28. John said on January 19th, 2007 at 8:41 am

    “Speak­ing of fam­ily life, check out this story. I find it very John Waters-esque.”

    I bet the girls made their escape to Mortville…

  29. Dorothy said on January 19th, 2007 at 9:20 am

    My sis­ter Lou used to work in a home for preg­nant teens in Pitts­burgh run by Catholic Char­i­ties, not so many years ago. I’m fairly sure it still exists.

    Did any of you ever see the movie “The Mag­da­lene Sis­ters”, about the Irish nuns (true story) over­see­ing preg­nant unwed girls? Good heav­ens it is har­row­ing. Gave me night­mares.

  30. Bob said on January 19th, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Some years ago, when the cur­rent down­town Hol­i­day Inn was a dif­fer­ent fran­chise (Sher­a­ton?) I fre­quently got wrong-number calls from peo­ple try­ing to make reser­va­tions. I had had my phone num­ber for sev­eral years before the hotel existed.

    Com­plaints to the phone com­pany and to the hotel availed noth­ing, so after a while I just started tak­ing the reser­va­tions. The prob­lem went away after a fairly short time.

    About thirty years ago I worked for a large com­pany with its own phone exchange. The exchange num­ber was one digit off from the exchange for county gov­ern­ment offices, and I used to get calls for the county pub­lic health depart­ment. Some wanted to know the results for their STD tests, and I was always able to avoid the temp­ta­tion to tell them they had only months to live.

    I was almost over­whelmed by temp­ta­tion, though, when some very angry and pos­si­bly some­what ine­bri­ated fel­low called to raise holy hell with me for deny­ing the sep­tic tank per­mit for his build­ing lot. He threat­ened to come down there and kick my ass, and it was all I could do to not tell him, “Bring it on, f###er!” and then watch the evening news.

  31. Danny said on January 19th, 2007 at 11:39 am

    Hilar­i­ous!

  32. nancy said on January 19th, 2007 at 11:41 am

    My phone num­ber was one digit off from the request line at Fort Wayne’s only, ahem, “urban” sta­tion. I fre­quently came home to 10 or more answering-machine mes­sages, all from African-American teenagers ask­ing to hear “The Humpty Dance.”

  33. MarkH said on January 19th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    Actu­ally, Mary, it’s the dam­aged oranges that go to the FCOJ pro­cess­ing plant (my under­stand­ing, at least, from a net­work news report this week). So OJ will be plen­ti­ful, but not pro­duce oranges them­selves.

  34. LA mary said on January 19th, 2007 at 7:21 pm

    The oranges are pretty crappy this year any­way. Small and hard. I’ve been buy­ing clemen­tines instead.