Saturday morning fish flies.

Saturday, July 13th, 2013

If I were a trout, I’d be fat and happy these days. But I’m not.

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alex said on July 13, 2013 at 9:06 am
Last weekend on the lake our boat was covered in things that looked like that only they were iridescent blue and chartreuse. And they were fucking.

In preparation for out-of-town company today, we decided we had better stash one of our Eames fiberglass shell chairs out of the way because we don’t want somebody getting injured. The chair portion separated from its base recently when another guest was sitting on it, and for the life of us we couldn’t figure out what to do to put it back on. Don’t know why it didn’t occur to me at the time — just google it. There’s an answer for everything, and sometimes it’s so good it just has to be shared.

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coozledad said on July 13, 2013 at 9:57 am
Guinea fowl and chickens will turn those into delicious free range eggs.

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Linda said on July 13, 2013 at 10:59 am
Once, when I was little, my dad was driving on a road so covered with these things that when he rolled over them, they turning into a sort of slime that caused us to nearly slide off the road.

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beb said on July 13, 2013 at 11:15 am
Down by Belle Isle where I work the fish flies peaked about a week ago but even then there weren’t as many this year as in others. (In other years the road leading back to the plant would have a fine layer of dead fish flies.

Texas – no tampons allowed there.

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coozledad said on July 13, 2013 at 11:21 am
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/07/12/4161900/mccrory-breaks-his-promise-on.html

Wal there ain’t nothin’ wrong with lyin’ for Jesus
Jesus loves clumps of cells in the womb
He prefers when you kill people exercising free will
While he watches the clinics go boom.
Sit a spell
With your savior
And swap a few stories
About courage and wisdom and grace
And after Art Pope’s sprayed a load on McCrory
Pat can wipe all that Art off his face,
Ain’t no napkins in heaven
Ain’t no grease in the pig
There ain’t Tampons either
It’s a” Ricky Perry” gig.
Just a bunch of old fellers
All a’ nuzzling and drizzling
Why There’s Randall Terry!
An Ol’ Vidkun Quisling!
Keep a lyin’ for Jesus
And we’ll see you there
We’ll have Adolf go fetch you a chair.

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Deborah said on July 13, 2013 at 12:22 pm
That’s a heaven I don’t wish for.

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Joe K said on July 13, 2013 at 12:40 pm
When I flew checks into Cleveland’s lake front airport every night I used to have to spend 10 minutes cleaning the windshield before I could take off after hitting swarms of these, not to mention cleaning the leading edge of the wings and around the props, when I got home.
Pilot Joe

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brian stouder said on July 13, 2013 at 1:07 pm
So D-town has Automatic Trout Machines, eh?

We just got back from the Three Rivers Parade – which was marvelous. Only one chuckle-head float, and even those goofballs weren’t very far from being between the 40-yard-lines. There thing was Buy American – which is fine; it was the spray-painted signage on their hay-wagon float, and an almost-rebel looking flag design that set off a few warning bells.

Anyway – it always just catches my breath a little, to see all the highschool bands (especially including ours, of course!) marching past, plus lots of other community good-guys and good-gals, doing the hard (Jeff TMMO-style), and getting their moment of general recognition.

The shriner guys get old, though (other than the ones with the ‘topless cars’ – lots of ‘vettes and Mercedes and so on)

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Prospero said on July 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm
Obvious grammar question: Fat, happy or trout? Pleasingly plump, perhaps, or kindly chuffy. Definitely human and I sincerely hope you’re happy.

That would be the Ananais Club up in heaven:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeJeuUwYm24

Buffy was born to tell the truth.

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Prospero said on July 13, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I think I’d prefer thae Anais club in heaven, without the Millers and the gats. Shriners are funny as shit. Old bald pot-belly guys wearing fezzes and driving go-karts? How can ya beat that? I think THC had to have been involved at some point.

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Julie Robinson said on July 13, 2013 at 6:46 pm
Brian, if you saw the folks on the Segways, three of them were mine. They got the chance to ride them sort of at the last minute, from the guy who owns them and wants to rent them out. They had a blast, and it sure beat marching the thing tooting into an instrument, which both my kids and myself did many, many times. But, like you, I still like the bands best.

We just got back from taking our daughter to the airport, so the house feels empty and quiet. Back to real life.

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Prospero said on July 13, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Actually, the funniest thing about Shriners is that Shriners don’t realize Shriners are funny.

In honor of the Segway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu9KXQmL2d8

Too tough for a legacy Yalie. Segway’s are guaranteed not idiot -proof:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushsegway.htm

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brian stouder said on July 13, 2013 at 11:35 pm
Julie – I think I DID see them (amongst others)

Other than that, my God.

Trayvon Martin. Florida. Racism. Prejudice. Violence. Put in a blender, puree, and then tune into Fox News/Shit-for-brains-Sean (et al), and learn that the crime committed was entirely on the part of that black devil.

As an American adult, I accept the jury verdict. I accept that we simply have to have juries determine these things, and not some governmental official – a judge or a magistrate.

And indeed, although I don’t understand how they (the jury) arrived where they did, I respect the result of their labors under the burden they were saddled with.

I will NEVER accept the blather from the (lilly white, and mostly male) lip-flapper class, who are busily criminalizing the dead black youth. I won’t allow myself to sound like they would have sounded, if the verdict had gone the other way.

The jury system is the best thing we have; those citizens (the jurors) I respect. ALL my contempt is for the lip-flappers we’ll all hear over the coming days, thumping their chests and thinking they’re scoring points.

And aside from all that – I’ll be out of pocket for most of the next week; Grant and I shall fly off to California early tomorrow… we have some ghosts to mow down.

See y’all a little later…and maybe this internet thing works on the west coast, too, even if a hoosier is the one who is attempting to use it, eh?

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Deborah said on July 13, 2013 at 11:37 pm
There’s going to be an odd weather condition that I don’t understand at all but am happy to hear about that will bring lots of rain our way, from Florida to Arizona. Yay.

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Brandon said on July 14, 2013 at 2:15 am
@brian stouder: You beat me to the announcement of the verdict.:(

Is she for real?

Hallelujah!— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) July 14, 2013

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coozledad said on July 14, 2013 at 9:26 am
Call the smoker of big cigars,
The Dominican ones, and bid him whip
The usuals up to foaming curds of scheiss.
Let Justice Roberts dawdle in his dress
And say the past is dead, long live the past
that flowers in the comments of newspapers.
Let Zimmerman be a guest on Fox and Friends
The only emperor is the emperor of Depends®.

Take Calley home now, to your kids
Shake his damp hands now, that shot
A whole village to save it for Nixon
And kicked them in trenches to douse and burn.
Brown folk, always so slow to learn
How white folk thrive in cold and dumb
That means always betray the ends
The only emperor is the emperor of Depends®.

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Prospero said on July 14, 2013 at 11:42 am
Brian, you left jorts and mullets out of your FLA hash recipe. That verdict is incomprehensible, but the jury displayed it’s likelihood of fucking up when they asked the judge to explain manslaughter to them, which could not possibly be pertinent after GZ got out of his car and stalked the kid. I am also not able to understand how the wannabe cop could have feared for his life when he clearly had 100 lbs. and a loaded weapon on the kid, no matter what photos of Fiddy Cent interweb racists tried to pass off as Trayvon Marrtin. Enjoy your trip, bud.

Tim Lincecum surely got an assist from his glove in pitching that no-no. Hitters were laughing too hard at the sheer ugliness of the thing to put a good swing on the ball. Majorly hideous. Or maybe it was Lincecum’s sporting the rediculously wispiest soul patch of all time.

Please secede. Seems to me the reasonable response to this horseshit is to fire some potshots at the dickheads.

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beb said on July 14, 2013 at 12:16 pm
I was in the jury for a trial of 2nd degree murder. The law was explained to us as meaning a reckless disregard for the safety of others after the immediate threat was ended. In our case a fight ended when the victim fled. But the defendant pursued. The victim tripped running down some stairs and got a concussion from which he died later. Since he was being pursued after the fight we voted to convict. It seemed pretty cut and dried to us. I can’t see how a man who left his car after the police told him not to is not guilty of 2nd degree murder. But then if this had been a jury of six black women instead of six white women I think the verdict would have been different

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alex said on July 14, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Even before the verdict, I thought that if Zimmerman were to spend any time in prison, he might end up brutalized or killed over his notoriety, and it would be fitting. That’s what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer. Of course, Zimmerman probably won’t be able to show his face in public for the rest of his natural life because no matter where he goes there will be people wanting a piece of him.

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Linda said on July 14, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Brandon @15–yeah, she’s for real. Her job is not “political commentary” such as you or I understand it, but to be the pre-tech definition of a “geek”–Coulter grosses out people for a living by showing her ass in such an offensive manner. If you think about it, it’s better than if she were an old carnie geek, and a succession of poor chickens would have the feeling of her dried-up little lips around their necks as their last memories on this earth.

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coozledad said on July 14, 2013 at 12:49 pm
Wingnut welfare will always find a place to hide and protect their choice criminals. Used to be they had to safehouse their stink.

Zimmerman will have a Fox gig and a book deal by tomorrow at least.

Say goodbye to the days when the Republicans used to pretend they weren’t on Byron de la Beckwith’s side. Insofar as one can be refreshed by the honesty of gutter trash, it’s worth noting they’ve fallen publicly in line with their time-honored racist advocacy.

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Jakash said on July 14, 2013 at 2:12 pm
I realize I’m going against the grain here, but I’m going to point out that, while the Zimmerman case may seem to much of America to be a battle between Ann Coulter and Al Sharpton, it was an actual legal case that took place in a courtroom. I’m very disturbed by the tragic events that took place that night — I think, at a minimum, those events call for a more considered evaluation of what the ramifications of concealed carry turn out to be, given that we evidently HAVE to have concealed carry laws. That being said, the prosecution did not, IMHO, prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was guilty of Murder 2 OR Manslaughter. I feel that the actions he took which led to the confrontation that night were unwise and unfortunate, and I don’t defend them as such, but it doesn’t seem to me that he was PROVEN to be guilty of anything ILLEGAL.

This case has been covered very extensively on Eric Zorn’s blog. Zorn — no conservative lackey, he — has, since very early on, taken the LIBERAL position of analyzing the facts and evidence in the case in the interest of hoping to assure that a defendant is not convicted based on popular outrage and misconceptions. I, at times, was pretty skeptical of some of his commentary, but have come to be convinced that he is right about the main issue — that, whatever happened that night, there was not sufficient EVIDENCE to convict Zimmerman, and that, in fact, the EVIDENCE tends to support the basic outline of Z’s story, though not all of it, by any means.

I’m sure many, or most, of you will disagree. For anybody interested, here’s his post from today, which includes links to 25 things he thought about the case from before the verdict was arrived at.
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2013/07/gzng.html

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Prospero said on July 14, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Zimmerman insisted that he only left his urban assault vehicle was to read street signs. Busllshit George. He was on self-appointed patrol in his own neighborhood. He went after the kid to either scare the crap out of him or to kill him.

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Jakash said on July 14, 2013 at 3:08 pm
I agree that the “looking for an address” explanation makes little sense. I think that he was hoping to be able to tell the police where TM was. What also makes little sense is to call the police if you’re planning to murder somebody in a few minutes. “He went after the kid to either scare the crap out of him or to kill him.” That’s speculation, which you’re more than entitled to as a blog commenter. If there was evidence to back up the latter part, he may well have been convicted.

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Linda said on July 14, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Jackash.:Zimmerman followed him, while Martin was not committing a crime. He was told by the dispatcher to let the police handle it, which he could have done, but chose not to. When you do unwise and unfortunate things–like confront somebody who is not doing anything, and confront them while packing a gun– that result in a human death, manslaughter is not an unreasonable verdict. People who are mildly buzzed and cause a motor vehicle death get worse. But I’m betting that a wrongful death suit will make Zimmerman wish he had only gotten manslaughter.

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coozledad said on July 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Enforcing sadist
This category of sadist can sometimes be found amongst military sergeants, deans of universities, prison overseers, police officers or other authoritative functions, because they are in a position where they feel they should be the ones controlling and punishing people who have broken rules, regulations or laws.[12] Though they believe they are acting for the common interest, there are deeper motives than just that. These sadists generally seek out the rule-breakers in their domain of authority, or in society in general, and exercise the most severe punishments they are able to give out for the individual case. If enforcing sadists are employed by society as, for example, police or prison staff, their actions are not perceived to be unjust and they have far-reaching freedoms to dominate, victimize or destroy others at will. They are supposed to act fairly but their personalities are not able to put limits on the emotions that drive their sadistically vicious behaviors.[12] The more these sadists dominate and punish others, the more satisfaction and power they feel. Their self-perception of righteousness is reinforced and their ego increases. The satisfaction the enforcing sadists gets from punishing other people can reach a state of intoxication where they cannot stop their behaviour and lose their awareness of reality in these situations. In most cases this does not attract any negative attention because they are acting within their legal authority to exert power and behave completely normally in everyday situations.

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Prospero said on July 14, 2013 at 3:45 pm
What really makes no sense whatever is claiming that a guy packing an automatic would feel his life was in danger from a teenager he outweighed by more than 100 lbs. That is not speculation, it’s a ludicrous claim. Or was it the deadly box o’ Skittles and the Arizona Iced Tea? Or the hoodie? Some tough guy, right? The claim about checking the street signs is such total bushwa as to be a patent lie.

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Jakash said on July 14, 2013 at 5:16 pm
Linda,

“When you do unwise and unfortunate things–like confront somebody who is not doing anything, and confront them while packing a gun– that result in a human death, manslaughter is not an unreasonable verdict.”

That used to be pretty much my argument, as well, and I’ve argued elsewhere that it seems wrong that there might be no official consequences for what happened that night. However, it was not PROVEN by the Prosecution that Zimmerman “confronted” Martin. It was not illegal for him to follow Martin, even if that’s what he was doing, and despite the dispatcher saying “we don’t need you to do that.” The following is from the jury instructions:

“In deciding whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you must judge him by the circumstances by which he was surrounded at the time the force was used. The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real.

If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”

Evidently, the jury didn’t find that it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was unjustified in using his weapon that night.

I also think that the analogy to drunk driving is a good one, which I’ve used as well. But it comes down to the law, in both instances. Drunk driving IS illegal. What this case seems to boil down to, to me, is the difference between having to PROVE, beyond a reasonable doubt, that what Zimmerman did was ILLEGAL, in Florida, and stating, as an argument, that what he did was unwise and unfortunate and that he should face some kind of consequences for his behavior that night.

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Jakash said on July 14, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Prospero,

This quote is from Zorn’s blog, June 21, 2012 — I can’t find the actual Sentinel link:

“The night he was shot, Trayvon (Martin) was 5-feet-11, 158 pounds, according to his autopsy. (His killer, George) Zimmerman is 5-feet-8, 185 pounds, according to his most recent arrest report.”

—The Orlando Sentinel

I’m sorry, but I’m not going to rehash the whole case here. I offered my opinion and a link to the opinion of a liberal columnist, who is VERY familiar with the facts of the case, and who is at odds with what you believe about the wisdom of this verdict. Which is primarily, I think, because he was concerned about the possibility of Zimmerman being falsely convicted in much the same way that he was concerned and has written a lot about many others who have been falsely convicted in the past. If you disagree with me and you’re not interested in his opinion, so be it.

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Suzanne said on July 14, 2013 at 7:24 pm
I admit to being surprised at the verdict, although I don’t think Zimmerman is a murderer in the sense that he ever intended to kill Martin. I think he’s a vigilante wannabe who didn’t use the sense that God gave him.

Excellent commentary here http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/on-the-killing-of-trayvon-martin-by-george-zimmerman/277773/

I watched the prosecution team and the defense team interviewed on some cable think last night. The woman prosecutor was a real piece of work. If you had not known the verdict, her comments would have led you to believe they had won.

The bottom line is that there are no winners in this.

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David C. said on July 14, 2013 at 7:28 pm
If Trayvon Martin was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

This is no less true. The only difference is Zimmerman was armed and got to eliminate the only other eyewitness. Now the script is written, and the lesson is shoot first and make up something later. It’s a gun nut’s wet dream.

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beb said on July 14, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Linda, what Ann Coulter is, is an agent provocateur. Unlike a carny geek who does makes a living from doing disgusting things – like biting the head off a chicken. Coulter lives to start fights. The pity is that political reporting is fixated on the blood sport aspect of it so Coulter has been given tons of publicity instead of being shunned for her lack for human decency.

Coozledad @26: what are you quoting from. It sounds very reason and learned. Just curious about the citation in case I was to use it somewhere.

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Deborah said on July 14, 2013 at 8:04 pm
It’s a sad state of affairs. I hope that Zimmerman’s inability to show his face in public for some time constitutes a punishment for him, he deserves to suffer something. When will things ever change?

It is raining buckets here, yay! Much needed. Tomorrows high is only supposed to be 68 and the low is to be 49! Sweater weather in July!

I’m leaving Wednesday for St. Louis, for a family reunion of my husband’s family, then I will be back in Chicago for a week before returning to Santa Fe. I’m not looking forward to hot, humid, Midwestern weather.

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coozledad said on July 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm
beb: The wiki entry for sadistic personality disorder, which is pretty much the defining feature of VICTIMIZED CONSERVATIVES.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorder

It’s also instructive to look at Theodore Millon’s subtypes of antisocial behavioral disorders and match them to their respective Republican psychopaths.

I’ll take the liberty of positing another subtype: The Angry/Indeterminate:a REPUBLICAN posing as a mushy LIBERAL who is SICK of people arbitrarily calling his RANDOM CAPITALIZATIONS a sign of impending DEPERSONALIZATION!

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Prospero said on July 14, 2013 at 8:42 pm
If George Zimmerman weighs less than about 250, the moon’s made of cheese.

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Linda said on July 14, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Jackash:
I’m interested in Zorn’s opinion, I just don’t agree with it. What the exact circumstances of the altercation were are uncertain, since one of the participants is dead. However, if I were followed down the street by a strange man, I would feel threatened, and most people would, too. Manslaughter does not mean only things written down as illegal that cause a death, but most stupid or negligent things.

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JohnCT said on July 14, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Prospero, I heard that after the arrest Zimmerman went on a Twinkie diet and ballooned up to his current weight. In fact, wasn’t one of the witnesses his trainer at a mixed martial arts gym?

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Deborah said on July 14, 2013 at 10:20 pm
David C, I liked your comment #31.

For those of you with medical conditions here I found this link from the NYT about to say or not to say to someone going through a health crisis: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/12/fashion/what-to-say-to-someone-whos-sick-this-life.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

My daughter Littlebird, got a hideous series of texts from a paternal aunt, about someone with the same condition that Littlebird has who is only 8 years old and has put her trust in God to help her. The aunt insinuated that Littlebird has not done that but should. It was a totally inappropriate thing to say and horribly offended Littlebird, to the point of many tears and rants. Why do people who have no idea what they are talking about take it upon themselves to council others in most inappropriate ways. They do way more harm than good.

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Judybusy said on July 14, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Re: Sadistic Personality Disorder: it’s not recognized in the DSM, (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) which means we mental health professionals don’t recognize it as a valid diagnosis. The closest diagnosis, including many of the traits Cooz lists would be Antisocial Personality Disorder. So, fun to toss around, but I think it’s important to be accurate as to current professional practice.

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Deborah said on July 14, 2013 at 10:43 pm
What to say

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Sherri said on July 14, 2013 at 10:53 pm
I don’t know whether the jury got it right or not, because I don’t know Florida law and I didn’t follow the trial. It does seem clear to me that a young man is needlessly dead because someone was paranoid and had a gun. It also seems clear to me that if the dead man is black and the gun-owner white, it’s much more likely that the gun-owner will be cleared than if the reverse is true.

We have too many people walking around carrying guns, and that makes all of us less safe.

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Deborah said on July 14, 2013 at 11:01 pm
Another link about what to say or not to say: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/apr/18/10-things-not-say-when-ill

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Jakash said on July 15, 2013 at 12:04 am
Suzanne,

I agree, the commentary by Coates was excellent.

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