What is up with this week? Everything is breaking my way. Not in a winning-lottery-ticket sense (alas), but calls are getting returned, people are saying yes when there’s a strong possibility of a no, and I woke up today not with a cold, but feeling pretty good after 6.5 solid hours of unconsciousness. So maybe I should buy a lottery ticket. Or brace for the inevitable crash.
It was another nice day, so I took Wendy to the dog park for her afternoon constitutional. This is the one in Detroit, which differs from the one in Grosse Pointe Woods in that it doesn’t require a license, shot records and a $20 pass (predicated on the license and shot records AND proof of $100,000 in personal liability insurance). It just requires you show up with your dog, so that’s what we did. She played with at least five others pups, and they all enjoyed sniffing each others’ butts and precious bodily fluids:
Now she’s asleep next to me on the couch. Dreaming of that huge Bouvier des Flandres, I’m sure.
So a quick pass through the bloggage:
Benghazi-Benghazi-Beetlejuice! Hillary held her own. More than held her own. Which means what? The hearings will continue. The GOP is so hungry for blood they’re eating their own legs. Here’s a human-element piece about the emails; you’ll like it.
I loved Jan Hooks on Saturday Night Live — she and Phil Hartman were some of my favorite performers of that era. Grantland looks at her unconventional career, a year after her death at 57.
You know those raunchy banners frats hang during back-to-school week? They’re not so bad. Found myself liking this more than I expected.
Oh, weekend. Where have you been?
Diane said on October 23, 2015 at 12:56 am
“The GOP is so hungry for blood they’re eating their own legs.” Obviously for this post the Thread Win category is abolished in favor of the The Proprietress Takes All category.
I am feeling much better about my vote for Hillary. She’s certainly looking like the grownup on the playground.
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ROGirl said on October 23, 2015 at 5:46 am
Trey Gowdy in earlier days.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LargeImage.aspx?image=http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d49720/d4972089x.jpg
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Suzanne said on October 23, 2015 at 7:23 am
I cannot take Trey Gowdy seriously for two reasons. 1) That ridiculous name which sounds much more appropriate for a sportscaster or rodeo rider and 2) He looks way, way too much like a middle aged Draco Malfoy, with the same personality.
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alex said on October 23, 2015 at 7:26 am
Trey Gowdy looks like a fetal alcohol poisoning poster child, and Louis Gohmert his fraternal twin.
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Deborah said on October 23, 2015 at 7:36 am
Judging from Nancy’s post and the comments so far, today is going to be fun.
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ROGirl said on October 23, 2015 at 7:55 am
I found myself fixated by his blindingly shiny face. It looked like it had been polished to a fine gloss.
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Deborah said on October 23, 2015 at 8:17 am
Suzanne, ha ha, I had to look up Draco Malfoy (obviously I’m not a Harry Potter fan). You are so right, good call.
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coozledad said on October 23, 2015 at 8:21 am
The whole lot of the Republican side- Gowdy, Martha Roby, Pompeo Pompitatus, that guy with a mouth full of uncooked turkey giblets from Georgia, and the guy who couldn’t dress himself from Ohio, looked like they’d been oiled and shat out of a weasel. By the end of the evening they were a pool of goo with hairs sticking out of it.
Hillary Clinton gonna be your president.
And this. Hahaha.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-laughs-benghazi-testimony
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Wim said on October 23, 2015 at 8:48 am
So literally hoist by their own petard.
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Dorothy said on October 23, 2015 at 9:31 am
I thanked you in yesterday’s comments, Cooz, but let me thank you again for that profoundly perfect nickname for Banjo Boy.
I went the melatonin route last night and slept really well. Just wish this niggling headache would stop. It started yesterday around 3 PM. And – I forgot to mention that at my eye check up on Wednesday I found out my left eye pressure reading dropped from 17 to 12 (after 5 weeks of eye drops) so the doctor was very pleased. However I do need to start using the drops in both eyes now. No sign of glaucoma in the right eye yet, but the pressure reading is 20 and needs to come down. So if the drops worked in the left eye, they should work in the right.
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coozledad said on October 23, 2015 at 10:11 am
Tammy Duckworth was brilliant. She could head up the VA.
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susan said on October 23, 2015 at 10:23 am
Here is an accurate summary transcript of yesterday’s blow-out.
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brian stouder said on October 23, 2015 at 10:30 am
Ms Duckworth and Elijah Cummings were superb, from the coverage and the recaps that I caught.
And Secretary Clinton will be on Rachel’s show this evening – and the interview will be marvelous, I’m telling you now!
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Jeff Borden said on October 23, 2015 at 11:03 am
I love that Trey Gowdy’s real name is Harold Watson Gowdy III. If Hillary really wanted to pop his gourd, she should’ve called him Harold all day long. As it was, he looked like the very definition of a thin-skinned twit. Naturally, he’s from North Carolina. Though Jim Jordan of Ohio came across, perhaps, as the biggest flaming hemorrhoid among the panelists.
I’m trying to develop a devil may care attitude about American politics, which is difficult to achieve considering how many vexing issues our nation confronts at home and abroad. If I can teach myself to chuckle over things like the Benghazi hearing. . .or the closing of DMV offices in black Alabama counties after the state insists on drivers licenses as IDs to vote. . .or the once sane state of Ohio joining other whackaloon states in denying Planned Parenthood funding. . .or the ongoing expansion of open and concealed carry laws, my life will be better. If one of our political parties wants to fly our country into a mountainside, maybe the only response is to crack open the Scotch and enjoy the ride.
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Sue said on October 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm
Happy to hear you do not have a cold Nancy. I’m down with a baddie. I had to go to the bank today to have them help me reset my electronic password. Yesterday I kept trying until I got shut out, couldn’t figure out what the hell was going on… well, I’m so fuzzy I was trying to use my gmail password to get into my bank accounts. Mind you, this is without medication, I can’t take cold meds.
And may I say that Vick’s-infused Puffs Plus Lotion is the best thing ever?
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brian stouder said on October 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm
You may!
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Deborah said on October 23, 2015 at 2:33 pm
I did something silly today, I waited in line an hour and a half to get into a store that just opened on Mich Ave, near me. The store is Uniqlo, I always go to one in NY whenever I’m there. I’ve been hoping they’d finally open one in Chicago. It’s cheap clothing, but I like a lot of what they have. They started in Tokyo and for a long time they had mostly tiny sizes but they’ve adjusted to the American market now, somewhat. Rahm Emmanuel was there for the ribbon cutting. There were a lot of Asian people in the long line, I was one of the tallest people there. Now I’m at the food hall in Water Tower Place having a salad and a glass of wine. Resting my tired feet. I can walk for miles with no problem but standing in line is painful.
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Deborah said on October 23, 2015 at 2:53 pm
My husband’s comment about Gowdy this morning is that he thought it looked like Gowdy had a nose job at some point in his life by a quack plastic surgeon.
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Scout said on October 23, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Today’s entire post Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Benghazi hearing comments are gold; Susan @12 with the Driftglass summary… HAHAHA!!! Loved that. And coozledad @8 – ‘shat out of a weasel’ made me spit coffee on my monitor. It’s you guys’ fault everyone in my office thinks I’m cray.
What I was doing instead of working yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/143254535845213/photos/a.143408355829831.1073741828.143254535845213/370039016500096/?type=3&theater
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Kirk said on October 23, 2015 at 3:09 pm
“Trey” sounds just right as a nickname for a preppie asshole with a name like Harold Watson Gowdy III. I’m sure he was in the most racist frat at whatever overpriced college he attended.
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Sherri said on October 23, 2015 at 3:12 pm
A Q&A with Ta-Nehisi Coates, who will be in Seattle next week. Sadly, the event is sold out, and I don’t have a ticket. More happily, I do have a ticket to hear Anne Lamott in Seattle that same evening!
http://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/books/qa-with-ta-nehisi-coates-author-of-between-the-world-and-me/
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Judybusy said on October 23, 2015 at 3:45 pm
Scout, time well spent! Sherri, lucky you. I am not at all religious, but enjoy the pieces I’ve read by Lamott.
I find myself doing somewhat of a “la-la-la-la” when I hear about Benghazi or emails. I’d rather spend time on more enjoyable or substantive stuff. I actually turned off the radio this morning when they began to talk about the hearings. I just see them as a witch hunt and a frustrating waste of time and money. With that said, I’m waiting for calls to be returned on a case, so will delve into my book on the fascinating world of epigenetics.
I hope all of you have enjoyable weekends!
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Bob (not Greene) said on October 23, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Not sure you can necessarily draw lines to the past, but this is what old Trey’s frat bros from Baylor did in 2004: http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/642221.html
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Kirk said on October 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm
Hey, they’re all “brothers,” so go ahead and draw those lines, Bob.
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Deborah said on October 23, 2015 at 4:36 pm
Sherri, too bad that you can’t hear Ta-Nehisi Coates but good that you get to hear Ann Lamest, I like them both, for totally different reasons but they’re both great writers.
A blustery, overcast day in Chicago, but it feels right for this time of year.
I didn’t mention it before but I had my routine mammogram early this morning. I called late yesterday to make an appointment but didn’t expect to get in until spring. Someone must have canceled because they said they had an appt available at 7:45am today so I jumped on it. Every time I go I think of Moe and her hilarious comment a long time ago about getting ready for your mammogram by squeezing your boob in the refrigerator door. That’s such a perfect description of what it’s like.
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Brandon said on October 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm
@Jeff: Gowdy was born and raised in South Carolina. Apparently there are some major differences between the two Carolinas.
http://www.topretirements.com/blog/great-towns/dueling-carolinas-north-carolina-vs-south-carolina-as-the-best-retirement-state.html/
https://benghazi.house.gov/
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Deborah said on October 23, 2015 at 5:52 pm
How did Anne Lamott turn into Anne Lamest in my comment #25? Weird.
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susan said on October 23, 2015 at 6:13 pm
Was it here that I saw Gowdy Doody? If not, then here it is!
Oh, and Tengrain’s version: https://www.flickr.com/photos/96024429@N00/22314725815/
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alex said on October 23, 2015 at 6:44 pm
Gowdy Doody! Animated by David Koch’s forearm up his ass.
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coozledad said on October 23, 2015 at 7:30 pm
“Belt tightening is one thing, but sometimes you need to change pants,” said a Republican strategist who insisted on anonymity to speak candidly.
So Jeb! has fallen short of his family’s target of shitting the bed once more, and crapped his khakis instead.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2015/10/23/sometimes-you-need-to-change-pants/
That was a lot of money to burn through so fast. There ought to be a select committee to investigate what looks a bit like theft.
On the other hand, it’s good to see Republicans being fucked crosseyed by their own kind.
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Wim said on October 23, 2015 at 7:51 pm
I see we’re now to enjoy a Planned Parenthood committee. I guess Sky Pilot can shrug it off because, hey, they released the unedited videos at the same time, so clearly no one would ever take the edited distortions seriously enough to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on a witch hunt or anything.
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Sherri said on October 23, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Obviously, Congress needs to read this: http://theslot.jezebel.com/why-angry-old-men-calling-a-meeting-to-yell-at-a-woman-1738194096
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Sherri said on October 23, 2015 at 8:34 pm
Or, they need to watch the West Wing, as CJ put it:
Leo, we need to be investigated by someone who wants to kill us just to watch us die. We need someone perceived by the American people to be irresponsible, untrustworthy, partisan, ambitious, and thirsty for the limelight. Am I crazy, or is this not a job for the U. S. House of Representatives?
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susan said on October 23, 2015 at 10:06 pm
Ann Telnaes drew some lovely sketches of various Benghazi! Benghaze! Benghazi! ¡Jeb! oops, wrong Rethug exclamation hearing personalities. Gowdy Doody is a natural for cartoonists. Doesn’t take much adjustment or exaggeration.
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Jolene said on October 24, 2015 at 12:21 am
Susan, the Telnaes drawings are great. Thanks for posting them.
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Dexter said on October 24, 2015 at 2:34 am
The Toledo Glass City Dog Park charges $40 yearly for one or two dogs, five bucks for a key pass card, and requires up-to-date proof of veterinarian care regarding shots and whatnot. This park is really close to the Toledo VA so I have been driving past it frequently. Hardly anybody is ever there; folks hate to pay a dime I reckon. It’s a nice place and I’d pony up the two double sawbucks for my dogs if I lived in T-town. https://glasscitydogpark.org/
Remember a few years ago when the topic was colonoscopies? Like I have posted the past year, the VA medical folks have been good about trying to keep me going, testing bodily fluids, X-raying me, putting me on a diet, and now the results are in from another test, the unpleasant one…and of course it came back positive, blood ( I had no idea whatsoever…no symptoms) where it ain’t spozed t’be…and in a couple weeks I visit Ann Arbor for yet another colonoscopy. Unlike the last time when I was totally freaked out and scared I had something terribly wrong with me (I didn’t), this time I am calm and stoic about the whole thing. When a good percentage of a lifetime is in the rear view mirror anyway, doctors are going to keep finding stuff out-of-whack. Who knows what will happen in three weeks when I have my re-check of my eyeballs…I had the start of problems there eight months ago.
Off topic, a few of you possibly remember when Tom Sexton gunned down and murdered George Harmes in the Auburn-Dana parking lot in May, 1995. I worked with and knew them both. Sexton got fifty years at Michigan City state pen, and has been trying to get an early release. Apparently in Indiana, the prosecutor must approve of such a request, and she is adamant about keeping Sexton locked away for as long as she draws a breath.
That night was traumatic…I left the factory door just about a minute after the killing, but about 25 workers saw it happen. The fucking ambulance couldn’t figure out how to enter the lot and they were pretty damn slow getting there. As I approached Harmes, dying on the parking lot ground, others were trying to comfort him. I had seen a few men take shots to the head in Vietnam (I was a medic) and they all died quickly, as did Harmes, within a few minutes…when the ambo got there he was gone…three shots to the head. I had played grade school sports against Harmes and I had worked closely with the shooter for 23 years at that point…ya just never know what the day may bring.
I could barely drive the 34 miles home that night. I am pretty sure I was in shock, and truly re-playing horrific war moments from decades back. I called my nurse daughter and told her I thought I may be in shock of some degree and she told me not to attempt driving anymore, but I didn’t listen, and I toughed it out. God, that was an awful night.
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Dorothy said on October 24, 2015 at 6:51 am
Dexter I wish you well in your follow up colonoscopy in three weeks. My husband went through that five years ago so I know how you’re feeling. And I’m sorry to read about the shock of what you experienced. I don’t know how someone processes seeing something like that.
Deborah I was just thinking about Moe yesterday! I read something in the paper about a local woman who had lung cancer and some work she’s doing to support a charity fund drive. And Moe’s name popped right into my mind. I can relate to your painful legs after standing that long. The night I saw the Obamas in Columbus four years ago I had to stand shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of others for at least 3 hours and I thought I was going to die, my legs hurt so much. This was before my knee replacement and I knew I had almost no cartilage in my left knee by then. Still – it was agonizing. I won’t ever do that again. That being said, I was thrilled to see them in person and so closely – !!
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Julie Robinson said on October 24, 2015 at 9:07 am
Dexter, my best wishes for better news the second time around. It seems like the VA is taking good care of you.
Deborah and Dorothy, I too have been thinking about Moe lately, and smiling of course. Her facebook page is still up, and can you believe it, she left us in April 2012. Knowing how much she admired Hillary Clinton, I’m sure her heavenly choir sounds even more joyful.
And speaking of HRC, her birthday is Monday, and for a present, she’d like to testify in front of the Benghazi committee again. Thank you, I’ll be here all night.
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Sue said on October 24, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Scott Walker’s back to work in Wisconsin, yay for us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/24/us/wisconsin-governor-signs-bill-limiting-political-corruption-inquiries.html?_r=1
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Deborah said on October 24, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Wow, Walker is a total jerk. So sorry Sue and David C.
I made a big pot of hearty chicken vegetable soup/stew today. We’re going to be enjoying it for awhile. I’ll probably freeze some of it in small batches for when my husband is in Chicago and I’m in Santa Fe.
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David C. said on October 24, 2015 at 6:22 pm
Walker’s about as popular as a turd in a punch bowl right now. I expect this won’t help one little bit.
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brian stouder said on October 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm
If my mom was alive, she’d have seen this story and sincerely said “Awwwwwww”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/movies/maureen-ohara-irish-born-actress-known-as-queen-of-technicolor-dies-at-95.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article
Most intriguing sentence (to me): (John) Wayne once paid her what he considered the highest compliment. “I’ve had many friends, and I prefer the company of men, except for Maureen O’Hara,” he said. “She is a great guy.”
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coozledad said on October 24, 2015 at 8:10 pm
Brian: Just ask the guy who installed two way mirrors in his pad in Brentwood.
http://i.imgur.com/en2RXmq.png
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Sue said on October 24, 2015 at 8:24 pm
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bird+cage+john+wayne+scene&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=2F6630BF1A01641FA6182F6630BF1A01641FA618
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brian stouder said on October 24, 2015 at 8:39 pm
I yield to Dian at post #1, but otherwise – that photo would be Thread Win, baby!
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brian stouder said on October 24, 2015 at 8:40 pm
(and Sue’s post, too!)
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 24, 2015 at 9:20 pm
This has provoked quite a debate in my extended family; my sister thinks “Tie a Yellow Ribbon” should be added, while I think it would work just fine, but “Old Rugged Cross” would be a stopper. Your opinions?
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12140129_10206492296160018_7549051281689802558_o.jpg
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 24, 2015 at 9:22 pm
[edit] Should be removed, that is. Sorry.
I asked why “Imperial March” was included, thinking one could perform adequately as an ecdysiast to that tune, and was told “it’s there for the geeks.”
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alex said on October 24, 2015 at 10:31 pm
John Wayne with Camel Toe. Eegads.
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alex said on October 24, 2015 at 10:34 pm
Jeff @ 47:
Billy Don’t Be a Hero.
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brian stouder said on October 24, 2015 at 10:52 pm
I’d add The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down / Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee (fling off the bikini-top, with drama)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A
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Dexter said on October 25, 2015 at 3:45 am
Yesterday morning I awoke craving a glazed donut, so I caved and drove to the donut place here in town and bought a couple. Then last evening as the rain was on and then off again, the leaves were cascading from the maples, I instantly craved a pot of chili, and by chance I had everything I needed right here. Chili is a matter of personal taste, and for me the trick is to never use any canned tomato juice at all, and after ladling out a bowl for myself, I liberally douse it with cinnamon. I can’t dump cinnamon into the pot because Carla Lee hates it. I also commit sacrilege: I pump about four ounces of Heinz ketchup into the pot. Sue me. I also use probably three times the amount of chili powder the average cook uses.
It’s past 3:30 AM here; I fell asleep watching S2E2 Fargo OnDemand. I slept two and a half hours in my recliner. Oh boy, what a way to ruin a night’s sleep.
Big issue here in Ohio is to vote “No” on Issue Two and “Yes” on Issue Three. 2 is about monopolies growing weed for the licensed sellers…it’s complicated and requires a bit of technical reading.
Issue Three is about legalizing weed. I have always believed in decriminalizing any sales, use, and/or possession of weed. Personally, I have avoided it for I suppose about thirty years now, so it ain’t my dog in the hunt; I just hate seeing anybody busted for usage of the seeded herb. Even God is for Ohio ballot Issue Three: (King James Bible)
“And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.” So there! 🙂
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Brandon said on October 25, 2015 at 4:11 am
@alex: Cameltoe.
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coozledad said on October 25, 2015 at 10:54 am
If the BJP believes drinking cow piss is an expression of Hindu nationalism, what will our theocrats have us drink?
http://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/indias-ultimate-obsession-with-cow-urine-231302.html
Looks like India elected the goddamn freedom caucus too. Several Republicans are already drinking piss like Todd Starnes, but I don’t think they’re concentrating it and bottling it so much as paying random professionals to spray it directly on their faces.
H/T Riddled, who have this lovely GIF of Trump demonstrating the awakening of natural ayurvedic energy fields after a generous application of TRUMP Golden Towers Facewash.
http://eusa-riddled.blogspot.com/2015/10/google-deepdream-has-inordinate.html
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beb said on October 25, 2015 at 12:32 pm
Our national discourse is starting to get scary. Here’s Ben Carson saying the only role of the Department of Education should be to monitor colleges and universities for liberal tendencies and to defund them when they do so. So much for free speech.
Meanwhile The Donald was asked if he would close mosques and he pretty much agreed. Again so much for the First Amendment. Also he had Univision thrown out of another public event.
And failed candidate Scott Walker signs a bill that makes it all but impossible to investigate political corruptions.
Where’s the media in all this Shouldn’t they be complaining about the antidemocratic tendencies of the Republicans?
The father of all evil, G. H. W. Bush, complains, in the NYT, that he can’t understand politics at all today. As if anyone does…
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coozledad said on October 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm
It’s always some neckless skinheaded white shart tub Republican invalidating Godwin’s law. In 2010 it was Rand Paul’s brownshirts curb stomping a woman, now it’s Trump’s white dreck. Come election time they’ll be incorporated into Bush’s national front.
http://www.joemygod.com/2015/10/25/miami-trump-fans-chant-usa-usa-as-latino-protester-is-dragged-and-kicked-by-supporter-video/
The sad thing is, there won’t be any night of the long knives where the inconvenient ones are butchered in their beds. The Republicans are going to need every white trash vote they can get.
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 25, 2015 at 8:32 pm
Speaking of appalling humorless Republicans, here’s what Gov. Walker just tweeted (c’mon, it’s funny; that’s his daughter) — pic.twitter.com/vVcILcruwx
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nancy said on October 25, 2015 at 8:42 pm
He named his daughter Tonette? Poor kid.
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 25, 2015 at 8:56 pm
True.
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 25, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Wait — that’s his wife. I just learned something. Useless, but something.
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Jolene said on October 25, 2015 at 9:30 pm
Yes, his wife, and she really is named after the home permanent kits that were popular when she was a child. Good story about her at this link. Sounds more appealing than her husband, actually, though I know that is a low bar.
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Deborah said on October 25, 2015 at 9:44 pm
Yes, his wife’s name is Tonette and she’s 12 years older than he is. That may be in Jolene’s link, I haven’t read it yet.
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alex said on October 25, 2015 at 10:04 pm
Autocorrect keeps turning Tonette into Taunt.
She could have hitched her star to something better than that vapid flake. I thought she and her kids were rather impressive — coming out as pro-gay while ridiculing their fuddy-duddy husband and father, more or less implying that he’s just doing it for politics but would be a really cool Prez, but I think they misgauged the mood of the country. We didn’t love Betty enough to elect Jerry in the ’70s, and we don’t love Tonette enough now. And she’s not even as cool as Betty.
If only she’d been in favor of pot, abortion and taxing the wealthy, she might have saved her husband’s campaign, at least made him a semifinalist. Jeb! doesn’t look like he’s in it for the long haul.
Think they’ll try to draft Mitch Daniels again? I’ve been saying it for some time now. He’s treading water at Purdue while waiting in the wings. Just you wait and see.
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brian stouder said on October 25, 2015 at 11:09 pm
Alex, I’m still in the disbelief-stage regarding the Republican embrace of Donald Trump.
If they nominate him (and they may well) I don’t see how the national Republican party avoids disintegration (both literally and socially).
When I was a young guy, the Republicans were (seemingly) “the grown-ups” – who faced the hard realities, and (seemingly) advocated for serious solutions.
Now, all the grown-ups appear to be within the Democratic party, or marginalized within the R’s
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Brandon said on October 26, 2015 at 1:31 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonette
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