The visitor.

Let’s make this a quick one today. I’m tired and need some light lifting. But I don’t want to let another day pass without showing you who stopped by Jeff TMM’s back yard a few days back:


I count eight points on that bad boy, how about you? A trophy on any hunter’s wall. But I’m rooting for him to make it through another season.

The other day I showed up for my Monday boxing class, and was the only one there. No biggie, it just means a private session with the trainer, always a good thing. Traffic was light on the way to work, at a time slot where it’s never light. And even Alan came home early on Monday, reporting that news didn’t happen because the auto plants were closed and everyone was on light duty. Why? Gun season opened over the weekend.

It’s a big deal in Michigan. In West Virginia, it’s a school holiday, or so I’m told.

What is there to report?

Charlie Sheen has HIV, and has spent millions, he says, keeping it quiet over the last four years. I guess it was to preserve his reputation, because it’s so sterling.

Ben Carson is hung out to dry by an advisor, quoted by name, in the New York Times. And what an advisor to choose in the first place. Later, doc.

Paris isn’t over, and now it’s Germany. Ai-yi-yi.

With that, let’s drag ourselves through hump day together.

Posted at 12:30 am in Current events, Same ol' same ol' |

55 responses to “The visitor.”

  1. MarkH said on November 18, 2015 at 12:38 am

    Nancy, you didn’t answer Carter Cleland’s late question last thread about going to Chicago Thanksgiving for a Vipers’ show.

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  2. Wim said on November 18, 2015 at 1:36 am

    Nature, red in tooth and forehead. I’d be a-skeered to come upon that out in the garden.

    I used to hunt, for as a hillbilly I was required to pick my way through cold and wet in gray November and seek to slay a deer without being myself slain by those figures of dread reputation, Hunters From The City. Several of my peers fatally shot themselves dragging firearms after them when crossing fence, though not all at once. Sometimes you just have to make your own mistakes in this life, no matter the example set before you. In my sixteenth year I deliberately fired a spoiler shot to spare a sprightly buck, and as a species traitor I was driven from the haunts of men. I have never killed for fun.

    I’d say go to small claims court, Alex, but if you could bring yourself to speak without heat you might first ask if she is willing to make it right between you. Nothing can set a rancorous feud like a court action.

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  3. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 5:01 am

    Definitely a “shooter,” as the saying goes. Wim, obviously I am a bloodthirsty Neanderthal and I apologize for my very existence. Feel better now?
    Thought about not even mentioning deer season here this year, based on previous years it might be bad luck. Guess we’ll see.

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  4. nancy said on November 18, 2015 at 5:07 am

    Hey guys, I deleted that video from the last thread, and I’m sorry it got through. And no, not going to Chicago to see the DV show there. I get enough chances closer to home.

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  5. alex said on November 18, 2015 at 6:27 am

    Thanks, Wim, and everyone else for your suggestions. I think I’ll start with calling the nonemergency police number and see if they even bother to do reports on such things. I’ve drafted a letter asking that the neighbor contact me so that we might resolve this amicably without lawyers. Still mulling over the final presentation.

    This same neighbor and her ex-husband were in a long-running feud with the lady who owned the property before I bought it four years ago. They destroyed a fair section of the same hedgerow with a careless fire that went out of control and they never recompensed her. She had brought suit against them previously, along with the community association, over a barn they built that blocked her view of the lake. They lost and were forced to take it down. While he was still there he was selling pallets of firewood out of his front yard and the neighbors found themselves fairly powerless to do anything about it despite its unsightliness.

    I anticipate she may be difficult, although I always thought it was her ex-husband who was the problem, not so much her. Was glad when he moved out with his new girlfriend. He was a belligerent ass who constantly feuded with neighbors. At one point he put a sodium vapor light on the side of his garage aimed into the bedroom windows of his neighbors on the other side to intentionally harass them. Right now we have a neighbor down the street who appears to be doing the same thing to some people they don’t like.

    Needless to say, I don’t want to escalate a battle with this woman, but I can’t let her get by with destroying my property either.

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  6. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 18, 2015 at 7:01 am

    This was the fun picture, though:

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  7. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 7:08 am

    Putting out a pile of food to attract deer is legal in Michigan, not in Tennessee though.

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  8. Suzanne said on November 18, 2015 at 7:09 am

    Funny coincidence. I had a discussion yesterday with a co-worker who thinks Carson is a godly, wonderful man who would make a good president. When I asked him if he would really want someone with no experience at all in our industry to take over the helm of the company, because that’s what electing Carson would be like, he admitted that no, he wouldn’t want that. But then he assured me that Carson, with all his fabulous intellect & godliness, would surely surround himself with the most gifted & excellent advisors. I’d say this NY Times article blows that notion out of the water. Rule #1 of advisor choosing: don’t choose someone who will rat on you to the press.

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  9. alex said on November 18, 2015 at 7:26 am

    Dubya surrounded himself with advisors. Look where that got us.

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  10. alex said on November 18, 2015 at 8:03 am

    Well, I called the nonemergency police number and a sheriff’s deputy dropped by. He was kind of a blowhard who opined that the stumps looked as if they were straddling the property line and that if this were the edge of his property he would feel he was within his rights to chop them down. He wouldn’t take my word for it that they were within the property line. “Within and on are the same thing,” he said, drawing a line on a piece of paper. “That line is ‘on’ the paper and you can say ‘within’ all you want but it’s still ‘on.'” Overall more argumentative than helpful, but at least there will be some documentation. He attempted to speak with the neighbor but she didn’t answer the door. He recalled intervening in squabbles between those people and other neighbors previously.

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  11. Connie said on November 18, 2015 at 8:26 am

    Love the deer pic. My husband is out daily in the Lakes area, always with camera. This time of year it is all about the migratory ducks. Today’s facebook picture, a Northern Shoveler Duck. He spent the spring and summer tracking the exploits of an osprey family with a nest on a nearby cell tower. Other web pages allow pics in comments, if you did, I would share.

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  12. Wim said on November 18, 2015 at 8:41 am

    Basset, hunt to your heart’s content, dear man. Why should I care? Did someone hurt your feelings?

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  13. ROGirl said on November 18, 2015 at 8:42 am

    A clear-eyed explanation of the ISIS strategy:

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  14. Wim said on November 18, 2015 at 8:51 am

    Alex, unless he came with surveying instruments and a property description, I wouldn’t worry about a deputy’s opinion. If you go to court, though, you may want to get a surveyor in so as to testify professionally. I feel for you. This sucks.

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  15. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 9:08 am

    Wim, you were acting superior and I thought it was aimed at me.

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  16. Wim said on November 18, 2015 at 9:26 am

    Hey Basset? I’m not acting.

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  17. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 9:28 am

    Now if you don’t watch out, mom’s gonna stop the car, and THEN what’ll happen?

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  18. Wim said on November 18, 2015 at 9:38 am

    Is this your mom we’re talking about, Brian?

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  19. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Wim – in the metaphorical sense.

    In reality, my mom never drove a car; but she wielded a wooden spoon with great skill (5 bickering boys probably foreordained that); and my old alarm-light just came on, during that last exchange!

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  20. coozledad said on November 18, 2015 at 10:44 am

    The cowardice of mayonnaise fed doucheschlub Republican feebs knows no bounds. All that ballswinging, when they’re truly the wretched of the earth, backbiters and scabs who want to drag the world into their slimy black oubliette. Decent people everywhere should pride themselves on hating them, and they should hate themselves with a suicidal fury.

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  21. Sue said on November 18, 2015 at 11:06 am

    I understand up in the U.P. they’re putting up billboards warning hunters not to bring Wisconsin deer into Michigan, now that Wisconsin has walked away from trying to manage the CWD outbreak (soon to be epidemic) in the state.
    Can’t lay this entirely on Scott Walker or his deer czar, the new policies are apparently just a response to the wishes of (supposedly) the majority of hunters in the state. There has historically been lots of conflict among hunters and hunting groups about DNR micromanagement that predates Scott. He’s just taking it to its logical pendulum-swing conclusion.
    I’m curious to get opinions from hunters here, do you worry about eating deer now?

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  22. coozledad said on November 18, 2015 at 11:25 am

    Wisconsin has walked away from trying to manage the CWD outbreak

    Must be one of those brain devouring prion diseases. Keeps ’em votin Walker!

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  23. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 11:31 am

    Cooz is on a roll!

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  24. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    “figures of dread reputation”… “spare a sprightly buck”… “driven from the halls of men”… Wim, I don’t suppose you read “Car & Driver” magazine back in the 70s?

    Sue, we had some scattered patches of CWD here a few years ago, I don’t worry about eating local venison though & haven’t heard anyone else mention it. I hunt mainly for the freezer, the occasional nice buck is a bonus. We have a great oversupply of does here, in our part of Tennessee a hunter can kill three a day all season. Nothing to brag about to your friends, but they’re better for the table than a big old buck.

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  25. coozledad said on November 18, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    Of all the ugly motherfuckers walking this blasted earth, there is on in particular who should not be drawing attention to his face, and that person is Ted “My nose is a mummified horse dick” Cruz. He and his dry-drunk theocrat old man ought to be repatriated to Gitmo after Barack breaks his foot off in Ted’s ass.

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  26. Jakash said on November 18, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    “I count eight points on that bad boy, how about you?” Well, since you asked, I count ten. But I’m not a hunter and, since nobody else has mentioned it, I suppose I’m wrong. I’m more familiar with Point beer than points on a deer, anyway…

    Basset, what say ye? Do the ones directly over his head not count, or something?

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  27. Sherri said on November 18, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Basset, nobody here thinks less of you because you own guns and use them. You can drop the aggrieved response every time someone says something less than positive about the gun culture in this country.

    Speaking of our gun culture, a few terrorists kill a hundred or so Parisians. A bunch of Republicans, who not that long ago would have considered getting rid of a few Parisians a good start, decide that’s such a clear and present danger to the people of their state that they must close the borders to refugees who might have shared a nationality with a terrorist. On the other hand, somebody buys a small arsenal of guns and ammo, walks into a school or movie theater, and shoots up a bunch of their citizens, and it’s just a senseless tragedy, must have had mental health issues, shouldn’t use this tragedy to score political points.

    Maybe we should look at improving mental health care in the Middle East.

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  28. Scout said on November 18, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    Sherri, you have been on a (really good) roll the past few days. I thoroughly enjoyed your post above @27, and the one yesterday about you becoming the Chief of Neurosurgery was priceless!

    I caught up with the rest of yesterday’s comments this morning and saw that there was something posted that was later deleted. And it sounds like it was a good thing that it was.

    It has been posited somewhere (here? possibly) that Dr Carson may be exhibiting some symptoms of Alzheimers. And the linked article seems to support that theory.

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  29. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Not at all, Sherri… i may be a little too sensitive to condescension, but it wasn’t about the “gun culture,” at least not this time. And I agree witth Scout, that chief of neurosurgery post was the best thing I’ve seen on here in awhile… in standard English, too, no overreaching with the word selection.

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  30. MarkH said on November 18, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    Sue @21 — Interesting that you bring up CWD here at nn.c. I would submit that further east from here in the Teton-Yellowstone area, it is an epidemic. It is not talked about in loud terms around here but it is approaching epidemic levels in northern Colorado and southern and eastern Wyoming. And now, evidence has shown it has reached this area as well.

    Evidence has shown it found in examples of all ungulates here – deer, elk and moose, but mostly deer. Whitetail deer have been infiltrating the state much to the dismay of hunters here who are starting to blame the whitetail for CWD. Even though CWD has been observed in the region years earlier.

    Basset – if CWD is under control in Tennessee, I’d like to know how. I’m not saying it’s not, but it’s serious wherever it is.

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  31. alex said on November 18, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    Ben Carson’s coming to town to rub shoulders with people stupid enough to spend $500 for a rubber chicken dinner and the honor of meeting him. I’m sure we have enough such fools here to make it worth his while.

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  32. MarkH said on November 18, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    BTW, the article I linked @30 was in today’s local weekly.

    Jakash, I agree. You have to look closely, but I count five on each side of the buck as well.

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  33. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    The best deal I ever got in local politics was the Sunday when Senator Obama came to town, along with Michelle and the girls, and they had a public ‘picnic’ at Headwaters Park downtown.

    It was free, and while standing in the line to be admitted to the pavilion, Janet Napolitano worked the line, and shook hands.

    When they opened the pavilion, people ahead of me mostly peeled off to the right, where the food was laid out, and I saw that there was a roped area and a platform way at the end of the space, on the left. So, I skipped the food and headed for that table, and (ultimately) ended up watching the senator’s speech from 5 feet away.

    Missed out on shaking his hand (a Johnny-come-lately elbowed me out of the way), but I got to shake Michelle’s hand, and say a word to her…

    and this didn’t cost me anything beyond a few pleasant hours on a Sunday

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  34. Sherri said on November 18, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Thanks, basset and Scout. Guess I need a little boredom from power outage more often to get the creative juices flowing!

    (Power is back on now, after being off about 8 hours yesterday. Not everybody has power back yet though. It wasn’t the worst wind storm I’ve been through here, but it was a pretty good one.)

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  35. Dorothy said on November 18, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    That deer pic is like a Where’s Waldo experiment. Now that you guys mention it, I see the 5 points on each side too! This makes me especially glad cuz it means the glaucoma can SUCK IT. I see it just fine.

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  36. Jolene said on November 18, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    Speaking of gun culture and terrorism, as Sherri was . . . The death toll in Paris was about four days (four days!) worth of gun deaths in the U.S. It boggles the mind to think of the words wasted and dollars spent on counterterrorism when the real threat to American lives comes from what we do to each other every damn day.

    And, with my usual nag . . . If you object to the idea of excluding Syrian refugees or delaying their resettlement in the U.S., call your Congressman today and also call Paul Ryan (202-225-3031), now Speaker of the House. He decides what ultimately gets voted on, but the current plan, I believe, is to vote on a “pause” measure tomorrow.

    The idea that we can guarantee that no person admitted to the U.S. will act against us is bizarre. Given the access to guns in this country, any one of us could become a terrorist by tomorrow afternoon.

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  37. Deborah said on November 18, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Sometimes there seems to be a bit of posturing on the male side of the commentariot herewith.

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  38. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    Deborah, I try and casually sit off to one side – and hope to occasionally catch the Proprietress’ eye – but NOT while doing something ridiculous. (basically a losing cause in my case, but wadaya gonna do, eh?)

    And then some days, you gotta be a macho-man, right? When the news goes from somewhat interesting (most days) to incredible and astounding (maybe once every two or three years) then one is tempted to do their cool-cat best Eric Sevareid imitation…but I’ll never be that grown-up.

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  39. Judybusy said on November 18, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Oh, yes, there does, Deborah!

    The deer is gorgeous. I did get a bit tired of seeing bloody deer on my FB feed; two nieces hunt and proudly display the results…..then the same pics get shared by dad, and grandpa, tagging the girls.

    Well said Dorothy! I hope the glaucoma isn’t a thing you really have to worry about.

    “My” nonprofit is having good discussions given the Sheen disclosure. (We provide housing and services to people living with HIV/AIDS.) There remains a lot of stigma, of course, and having housing is such a huge piece of keeping folks treatment compliant. Also, many people seem to think an HIV diagnosis is not such a big deal. Of course, there have been huge advances; it’s no longer an imminent death sentence. However, the drugs are really hard on the person and leads to more rapid aging and increased liklihood of dementia. Still no picnic. We’re opening up a new 36-unit building on December 1, World AIDS Day. We’ve got one more project in the works, then we’re taking a breather. The funding climate to develop new housing has become too risky for sucha small agency. We can, however, partner with other organizations to get some of our clients into their projects and provide services.

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  40. Dorothy said on November 18, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    No, Judybusy, the glaucoma isn’t an issue yet. I was just being a smart ass. Not a very good one, I guess.

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  41. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    I still cannot see 10 points (I see 8) on the deer, but I’m probably not doing it right.

    A non-sequitur – seven score and 12 years ago tomorrow (November 19), our greatest president made a few appropriate remarks that the world has greatly noted, and long remembered; and also largely forgot what those brave men did there, and what it all meant.

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  42. Joe K said on November 18, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    4 on each side up high and the 2 points one on each side at the bottom.
    Pilot Joe

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  43. MarkH said on November 18, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    Posturing? MALE posturing…at nn.c?? I’m shocked, etc.

    “…I try and casually sit off to one side…”

    Brian, Really? Not that you ‘posture’ in Deborah’s sense of the word, but all evidence to the contrary. 🙂

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  44. Jakash said on November 18, 2015 at 5:29 pm


    Among the 6 large ones at the top, there’s a much smaller one one on both sides between the front two big ones…

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  45. brian stouder said on November 18, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    Joe and Jackash:

    Upon further review…..I do now see them!!

    My eyes ain’t what they used to be (apparently)

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  46. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    Looking at him on my phone, thats my story and me and my old eyes are sticking to it.

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  47. David C. said on November 18, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    Sue, I remember the hunters bitching when Doyle was governor. Why there wasn’t going to be a single deer left in the whole state. They’ll keep their thumbs up their asses on CWD until we get a mad cow case that shuts down the dairy industry. But Scotty and Dr. Deer threw the farmers a bone by allowing them to “manage” (put out bait piles to attract the deer into one spot so transmission is more likely) the deer on their property and sell off hunting rights. My understanding is that people will pay thousands for the right to hunt a property. So now there are plenty of deer if you can afford to pay someone.

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  48. nancy said on November 18, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    It’s the angle of the picture. Check the profile shot Jeff posted this morning and you can see the extra pair. He’s a 10-pointer.

    I hope this settles it. I have ruled.

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  49. Danny said on November 18, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    Yeah, but what about pandas being bears? That was funny. Happier times.

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  50. Wim said on November 18, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    Coming in late because I have a life, no Basset, never read the magazine. And Brian, here’s the thing: my mom didn’t drive, either.

    Posturing. Hm.

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  51. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Glad you could spare us a few moments.

    Car & Driver was pretty funny back in the 70s, mainly because the articles tended to be just ludicrously overwritten. Some of it still sticks with me, like the car review which referred to “driving con brio,” (that’s Italian for “like an a**hole,” by the way) and another which described making a game of cutting other cars off during the morning commute to work as “the cut and thrust of everyday driving.” Really contrived, y’know, something like the caution in “Elements of Style” which tells you not to “affect a breezy manner.” I think it was “Elements of Style,” anyway, it’s been awhile.

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  52. alex said on November 18, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Hey, I liked Car & Driver in the ’70s. They weren’t afraid to call Detroit out on its shitty product. Camaros with cigarette lighters that flew into the back seat after heating up; Rivieras with cathode ray tube dashboards that shorted out in the car wash. Now C&D is just an amen corner with pedestrian writing to boot.

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  53. basset said on November 18, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    I did too, haven’t read it in years though except in the occasional waiting room. Automobile had some of that same style for awhile but they’re just another clone now… I do most of my automotive reading now on Jalopnik and bringatrailer.

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  54. Dexter said on November 19, 2015 at 12:32 am

    Sherri’s post regarding her looming political run 🙂 reminded me of the fact that anyone can run for coroner, you, me, the necrophiliac down the street.
    Over the years I have only read of a few major fuck-ups by the drugstore coroners, such as this: Washington—“Kittitas County Prosecutor Greg Zempel said the concerns are real — he recalled a story from one Washington medical examiner’s office where they found two people in their morgue who were still alive — but those kind of mistakes often have nothing to do with medical knowledge.”

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  55. basset said on November 19, 2015 at 6:37 am

    ” anyone can run for coroner, you, me, the necrophiliac down the street.”

    there’s your thread win right there…

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