The mop-up.

State of mind:


Jeebus, what a shitshow that was last night. One of the other panelists on the radio today said the debates descended down a three-step staircase to end at Depressing, and brothers and sisters, that is so true. I love how Hillary showed up in a white pantsuit, looking great, like an elder on a very advanced planet. And yet, I hate that we had to go through this ghastly election year, and that there’s more of it to come.

The host and I were chatting before we went on the air, and he marveled that debate after debate, she spent her early comments laying traps, which Trump then congenially blundered through, one by one. Which is why, as soon as I read, “he was winning until X,” I just chortle and turn the page.

I was listening to “Keepin’ it 1600” on the way home, and the guest, Kristen Soltis Anderson, a Republican pollster, was talking about her work with Republican voters. She’s been asking the “rigged election” questions, and her remarks struck me: Voters have a wide variety of interpretations of what “rigged” means. Some think the media is biased = rigged. Some think it’s more specific, i.e., that there’s widespread voter fraud. Some think something in between. So that’s where we are: We have a failure of vocabulary. Or of explanation. We don’t even speak the same fucking language. We use words like “bigly” on national television and aren’t even embarrassed by it.

Talk about depressing.

I’m cutting out for the weekend and plan to just chill, for a change. I just looked at my work schedule and see only normal-size fences for the rest of the year, not giant oxers, so that’s good.

Also, I’m going to watch “Westworld.” Have a good one yourselves.

Posted at 8:12 pm in Current events |

85 responses to “The mop-up.”

  1. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 20, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    Nothing like watching parades in the rain! Did you all see me wave at the webcam?

    Circleville, Ohio’s Pumpkin Show crowds are, to all indications, pretty much Trump territory. He’s gonna win Pickaway County bigly. But I still doubt he will carry the state.

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  2. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 20, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    By the way, I am proud to call Mr. FunnyBunny a friend, and his wife is my spiritual director:–funnybunny.html

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  3. Dexter said on October 21, 2016 at 3:00 am

    “Big League” must be an expression from my generation, meaning roughly, “top of the heap”. I was surprised Thursday when listening to the radio and some thirty-somethings kept saying that Trump said “bigly”. What the hell? So I watched some videos and goddam it Trump is saying “bigly”. He’s been saying it for months. I just can’t stand to watch much of this shit-mess of 2016. I have always followed Presidential elections closely, but since Bernie was vanquished months ago, I have no enthusiasm.
    My granddaughter lives in Las Vegas and attends UNLV. The debate was staged at Thomas Mack Center on-campus. I drove past it in August, helluva big arena. Very close is the Harry Reid Center for Environmental Studies. I doubt if Trump took a tour of the place.
    Sarah, graddaughter, said she couldn’t begin to get around campus, as all the streets were shut down for blocks around. Very tight security as always. What gets me is these fucking hayseed morons going around advocating taking Hillary out…I saw one on a news clip on NBC. Why aren’t these bastards being locked up?
    My wife and her friends (and millions of other Americans) like early voting. I am not criticizing this practice, but for me it takes the fun out of it. I like going to the polling place and voting like I always have. A long time ago I received a ballot in the mail…why? I did not request it. I ignored it and will again go to the polling place. What if an October surprise occurs and you are horrified that your preferred candidate is a crook or worse? You have already voted. I’ll wait until election day. Also, I know that UAW workers in Michigan always got election day off as a contractual holiday, paid. I wonder if that is history now, and they all just mail in their ballots

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  4. adrianne said on October 21, 2016 at 5:02 am

    Whew, The Donald is finished. He was just booed off the stage at the Al Smith dinner. It was like a scene in a Victorian novel, when the crowd turns on the boor in their midst. Brutal.

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  5. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 21, 2016 at 6:43 am

    Poor Melmotte.

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  6. ROGirl said on October 21, 2016 at 7:06 am

    I think there’s only one definition of “rigged” for Trump: I lost to Hillary.

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  7. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 7:44 am

    Yeah, I watched the Al Smith dinner on Rachel last night. Trump made a remark that Hillary hates Catholics and called her corrupt. And as Adrienne said, the crowd booed. Rachel said it was usually mostly a conservative crowd. Trump did give a couple of funny jokes, one totally at the expense of his wife, but it was a good one. Hillary was funny too, a couple of clinkers in there but Trump had those too. In the past candidates used some self deprecating humor, Hillary did that but of course Trump didn’t. Hillary had a timely (serious) ending to her speech which I thought was well done too, but I’m probably a bit prejudiced since I’m an enthusiastic supporter. I haven’t found a link yet so you’re on your own. Senator Franken gave some commentary about their deliveries of comedy on Rachel, because of obvious reasons.

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  8. adrianne said on October 21, 2016 at 7:47 am

    Jeff — “Poor Melmotte” — exactly! I love that novel, “The Way We Live Now.” Still relevant for our Gilded Age.

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  9. Alan Stamm said on October 21, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Thanks for teaching me (us?) about oxers.

    Starting the day with a new word feels good.

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  10. brian stouder said on October 21, 2016 at 8:25 am

    As I said at the end of the last thread, regarding the Al Smith Dinner, my attention was diverted by the woman in the red dress with her boobage on display, just the next row behind where the podium was.

    She absolutely could NOT stop taking off her elbow-length white gloves, then replacing them, then removing just one, and then replacing it, etc etc…the whole time texting, and then texting some more (probably saying “Is my cleavage visible now?” and “A little to the left?” etc etc)

    Betcha a nickle she ends up featured on some internet thing or another

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  11. basset said on October 21, 2016 at 8:27 am

    That it does, was a new word for me too.

    Meanwhile, this from the BBC:

    At every single stage of Hitler’s journey to power, the wise commentators declared the voyage was over – the charismatic parvenu had overreached himself.
    Even on the eve of his elevation to German chancellor, Hitler was derided as an unsophisticated, unskilled demagogue who had come as far as he would go. Fellow (non-Nazi) nationalists and the establishment felt, given an hour in power, the ranting charmer would be shackled by the bureaucrats.

    Similarly the disdain of the American media and mainstream politicians has led them to miscalculate Trump’s appeal, staying power and his raw skill.

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  12. basset said on October 21, 2016 at 8:32 am

    No link to the whole article because it’s on the BBC News app, search “Does Hitler’s legacy still cast shadow over the world?” and you’ll see it though.

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  13. jcburns said on October 21, 2016 at 8:57 am

    Brian, the woman in red is Maria Bartiromo, Fox Business.

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  14. nancy said on October 21, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Maria Bartiromo, but hereafter she shall be known as Booby McRedDress.

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  15. Danny said on October 21, 2016 at 10:04 am

    Good one, Nance. Was it just me or did Maria seem to make a conscious decision to have her cleavage covered by her gliomes during Trump’s remarks and then to “take the gloves off” during almost the entirety of Hillary’s remarks?

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  16. Danny said on October 21, 2016 at 10:05 am


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  17. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 10:38 am

    I not only learned about oxers today but I had to look up MRSA, so now I know what that is too One thing I like about watching Rachel once in awhile is that I usually learn something, she’s a good teacher and she usually brings up little known facts from the past to help explain a current event. I’m making lots of typos this morning that may or may not be autocorrected, because I just got back from the eye Dr, had the dialation drops and things are blurry for a few hours.

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  18. Sue said on October 21, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Think of it this way, Dexter: all those early voters mean you won’t wait in an hours-long line on November 8. You’re welcome!

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  19. Peter said on October 21, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Maria Bartiromo?? Check out Joey Ramone’s tribute song to her on the youtube.

    There might be a clip of her talking about the song – seems Joey would keep calling her up and asking for some investment advice and she had no idea who he was.

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  20. Peter said on October 21, 2016 at 10:59 am

    Also, Maria was the first female reporter that was stationed on the NYSE floor – compared to the crap she had to put up with on the floor, Donald Trump would look like a perfect gentleman.

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  21. brian stouder said on October 21, 2016 at 11:17 am

    Well, I was generally impressed by Ms Bartiromo. All else aside – she seemed genuinely at odds with her gloves.

    Thinking back on it, all the men had on tuxedos…possibly the room was overly-air conditioned?

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  22. Judybusy said on October 21, 2016 at 11:31 am

    I am reading The Way We Live Now for the second time. Nice reference, Jeff!

    I am so fatigued by this election cycle. I wish there were a way that the entire process, from declaration to primaries to voting could last just 6 months. 18 months is just far too long. I am getting anxious about what the reaction will be when Clinton wins, as Trump is stirring up so much anger about election rigging. Of course, all the exposed racism and xenophobia are scary, too. An attorney in my office joked she’d come up with a new diagnosis: Post Trump Stress Disorder. I want to consult my DSM-V and make up criteria. I already know one: feelings of instense anxiety at the sight of Cheetos, apricots, and oranges leading to ranting about the lack of civility and general knowledge by the public.

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  23. nancy said on October 21, 2016 at 11:35 am

    I wore opera-length gloves as part of my Theatre Bizarre turnout, and I can testify that they are a pain. A journalist would want to be tweeting/texting through that shitshow, and they’re not conducive to that. Also, I didn’t realize until I wore them for a couple hours how much they hold heat in the body — turns out one’s hands are little radiators. After a couple hours, I took them off and carried them ’50s-style, hand held up to show I had them, but wasn’t wearing them at the moment.

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  24. adrianne said on October 21, 2016 at 11:57 am

    Also, mad props to Hil for this joke about Rudy Giuliani, who did not alter his death’s-head stare one bit:
    Pointing to the guests on the dais, Clinton said, “We’ve got the Honorable Chuck Schumer, the Honorable Andrew Cuomo, the Honorable Mike Bloomberg, the Honorable Bill DeBlasio, the Honorable Dave Dinkins, and so many other wonderful elected officials. And we have Rudy Giuliani.”

    “Now, many don’t know this, but Rudy actually got his start as a prosecutor going after wealthy New Yorkers who avoided paying taxes,” she went on. “But, as the saying goes, ‘If you can’t beat them, go on Fox News and call them a genius.’”

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  25. brian stouder said on October 21, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    Adrianne – I confess it was a source of great pleasure to me, when HRC whacked Rudy; and his stone-faced scowl was straight from Central Casting for ‘bad guy’s right-hand man’

    Even the Donald seemed at least a LITTLE more relaxed than Rudy did. (even if ol’ DT* didn’t know WHEN to decide ‘this ain’t workin’, and bring his remarks to a close!)

    * if he wins, the whole world will have to suffer through the DTs!!

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  26. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    Suffering the DTs, good one Brian. I’m definitely going through that now, even though he’s losing.

    Nancy, not sure what holding gloves 50s style is. trying to imagine it? The only time I ever wore elbow length gloves was to my high school prom when I was a junior. I don’t remember it being hot, and that was in Miami.

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  27. Jakash said on October 21, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    I’m with Dexter regarding wanting to vote on election day, as a communal patriotic ritual. But, I’m also counting on Sue being right that all the early voters will cut down on the crowds that day. I guess my interest in the communal part only extends so far…

    As for “bigly,” WaPo favorite Gene Weingarten, a native New Yorker, is adamant that Rumpy is saying “big league,” which is a common expression to him. After the first debate, he wrote:

    “This is one of the weirdest oddities of the debate, and the single area where criticism of Trump is unfounded. I have no idea why anyone is hearing ‘bigly.’ He is saying big-league, a very New York expression. (New Yorkers and Jews say ‘big league.’ Goyim like George W. Bush say ‘major league.’ Remember his calling the NYT’s Adam Clymer a ‘major league a–hole’? You can hear Trump say big league 12 times here.”

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  28. Jakash said on October 21, 2016 at 1:02 pm

    D’oh! “Here” was hyperlinked in the original Weingarten quote, sending one to this analysis:

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  29. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 1:03 pm, Not exactly uplifting, but this will take your mind off of the election, a beautiful film by Pixar, they took 4 years to make during their free time

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  30. Sherri said on October 21, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    Linguists seem in agreement that it’s big league, though I prefer to assume he’s saying bigly.

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  31. Sherri said on October 21, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    My ballot is filled out, and I’ll drop it in a ballot box later today and also mail my daughter’s ballot to her. I miss the Election Day fun, but this is more convenient, and I don’t have a choice, since we’re totally vote by mail.

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  32. LAMary said on October 21, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    To me it will always be bigly. It’s related the inscription on the statue of Jebidiah Springfield, the founder of the town where the Simpsons live.” A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.”

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  33. nancy said on October 21, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    This is how I carried my gloves, because Bobbie Barrett on “Mad Men” is such a role model:Bobbie Barrett

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  34. Dorothy said on October 21, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    adrienne @24 – that was my favorite joke of the night!

    Has anyone else seen “The Dressmaker” with Kate Winslet and Judy Davis? We saw it Tuesday – it was tremendous! Funny, sweet, sad and really great all the way around.

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  35. basset said on October 21, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    So, let’s see the rest of the outfit. Every year I look at your Theatre Bizarre pics & say we should go – that and the Pikes Peak hillclimb are my two bucket-list events.

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  36. Jolene said on October 21, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    If nothing else, the election has been a wellspring of creativity for artists and writers, not to mention ordinary folks who’ve gone to town on Twitter with such hashtags as #MuslimsReportStuff and #TrumBookReports. Here’s Weird Al Yankovic with a musical retake of the last debate.

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  37. Jolene said on October 21, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    Whoops! Did something wrong with the link above, but it works.

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  38. Jolene said on October 21, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    Hillary Clinton’s latest campaign commercial. Commercial seems like the wrong word, but I can’t think of a better one.

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  39. Kirk said on October 21, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    He’s saying bigly; he’s that ignorant.

    I don’t spend all day reading columns, and I almost never post a link here, but I thought this Gerson column today was spot-on:

    And, I, too, enjoy the actual experience of going to the polling place and casting my vote on Election Day. Of course, it helps that I live a half-block from that polling place, which is the high school from which Nancy graduated.

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  40. Kirk said on October 21, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    Adrianne@24: Thanks for sharing. That’s hilarious. Giuliani is such a shamelessly hypocritical and vile pile of yet-to-harden coprolite.

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  41. Dorothy said on October 21, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    The last two elections, when I went to vote, the line was going out the door, into the parking lot (it’s a big church) and nearly out onto Fairfield Road. I spent at least an hour in line. I had a blood clot in my right leg in July and the lingering effect is causing my right ankle to be swollen pretty much all the time, so no thanks, I won’t be standing in line for an hour. I voted by absentee ballot already and felt so great when I put it in the mailbox.

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  42. Jolene said on October 21, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    I’m with you, Dorothy. I like the idea of going to vote as a civic exercise, but standing in long lines is not for me.

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  43. john (not mccain) said on October 21, 2016 at 3:19 pm

    “He’s saying bigly; he’s that ignorant.”

    Well, yeah, he is ignorant. On the other hand, “by our lady” turned into “bloody”, so I just don’t think it’s that bigly a deal. 100 years from now* everybody will be saying “bigly”.

    *Assumes the human race survives that much longer. YMMV.

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  44. LAMary said on October 21, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    When my sons were both in schools that required long, early morning bus rides, we would watch the very early NBC news and see Maria Bartiromo giving the news on the NYSE floor. She looked like she was not accustomed to wearing false eyelashes so we nicknamed her Blinky.

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  45. Judybusy said on October 21, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Out of curiosity, I looked up bigly: “bigly (ˈbɪɡlɪ)adj;
    archaic comfortably habitable
    Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014

    I like that. I have a bigly house.

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  46. Sherri said on October 21, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    My daughter, who is not a political junkie like her mother and usually has to be reminded to vote, texted me this morning asking if ballots were out yet. She’s ready to do her part to “prevent the apocalypse via Trump’s temper causing nuclear winter.”

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  47. Dorothy said on October 21, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    Bigly sounds like a word Winnie the Pooh might use on a regular basis.

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  48. Sherri said on October 21, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Donald the Pooh: I’m a bear of bigly brain.

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  49. Connie said on October 21, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    I just happened across this shot of both boobs and gloves.

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  50. brian stouder said on October 21, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    Connie – great link; and – Dorothy and Sherri for Thread Win!

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  51. LAMary said on October 21, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    Donald might have a smally brain. He’s got smally hands. You know what they say.

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  52. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    Jolene, the Hillary ad you linked to was very moving.

    Dorothy, I love, love, love Judy Davis so I’ll be seeing that movie for sure. Little Bird saw a movie last night with a friend who got free tickets to see Girl Flu at the Santa Fe Film Fest, LB said it was great, about a young girl who gets her first period. Katee Sackoff who plays Vic on Longmire plays the stoner mother of the young girl. It doesn’t come out for regular release until spring but I will want to see that one too. There’s another movie called Moonlight that I read a rave review about this morning in the NYT or the New Yorker, that I also want to see. This is rare for me to want to see so many new movies. I used to be a huge movie fan and went to see them at theaters all the time. Now we mostly just buy older movies that we’ve seen before but love watching again.

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  53. Scout said on October 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    I’ve been a yuuuuuuuge fan of Scalzi this entire election cycle. He doesn’t post primarily political things, so when he does, it’s like Christmas morning.

    “Legally speaking, if Trump loses, he can stomp his feet and hold his breath until he turns blue, and Hillary Clinton will still be President of the United States. So this is literally a question about whether Donald Trump wants to be a yutz when he loses. And he might! The track record for Trump being a yutz when he loses anything — primaries, Emmy votes, probably a game of Yahtzee — is pretty significant. And each of those times, his being a yutz didn’t change anything. He still lost. He was still a loser.”

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  54. Jolene said on October 21, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    Just found out that the Post has links to all its biographical coverage of both candidates organized on a single page for each. Here’s the link to the HRC page. At the top of that page, you’ll find a link to the Trump page.

    Also, note that the PBS documentary on Hamilton is on tonight.

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  55. Sherri said on October 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    Okay, who pulled the plug on the internet today to keep Trump away from Twitter after he got booed at the Al Smith dinner?

    Not sure what the real motive for today’s attack was, but the lack of even rudimentary security on the Internet of things has weaponized all sorts of Internet connected devices into massive botnets.

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  56. ROGirl said on October 21, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    Maria’s girls were out last night.

    I loved the way she pulled out her black horn-rimmed glasses, briefly perched them on her nose, swept them away in the same gesture, then raised her head and smiled for the camera.

    Those chandelier earrings seem very 1980s to me, maybe an homage to Ivana Trump.

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  57. LAMary said on October 21, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    ROGirl, Melania said in an interview that her cause as first lady will be eliminating online bullying. I think she may have started by messing with the Donald’s phone.

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  58. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    If I mentioned this here before, forgive me, I’ve been telling so many people I forget who I’ve already told: Early voting starts Monday the 24th in Chicago. I’m going to vote early on Monday if the line isn’t too long in the loop at 69 W. Washington. I could vote at Navy Pier which is closer, but I’d rather walk downtown. Our regular voting place is about a half block away, but I’d rather vote early. As I’ve said Little Bird has already voted in NM.

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  59. Deborah said on October 21, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    Nancy, thanks for the explanation about holding gloves 50s style.

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  60. Mark P. said on October 21, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    I have read linguists’ analysis of “bigly” vs “big league”, and it seemed convincing but whatever he meant to say in the debate, it came out “bigly” to my ear. I can be convinced otherwise with further analysis, but for the time being, I have no doubt that it was “bigly.”

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  61. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 21, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    FYI to anyone – if you haven’t read “The Way We Live Now” by Anthony Trollope, which I believe he wrote around 1875, that’s on the short list of things I would suggest you should stop reading this blog for until you have done so.

    (I should add to that list Luke, Galatians, and Philemon, and Job if you’re willing, but I need to check with Trump on what books of the Bible he’d most commend to fellow readers to attend to.)

    But even drop your Bible if you’re not watching the “Hamilton” feature on PBS right now.

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  62. basset said on October 22, 2016 at 6:43 am

    Never been a churchgoer or a Bible reader. I’ve been given two and don’t really know what to do with them – doesn’t feel right to trash them, can’t relate to reading them, so they’re just sitting in the clutter of my book room.

    Got the first one when I graduated from high school back in ’73 – the nondenominational church in the little town where I lived gave all the graduates one whether they were members or not. Opened mine up and the chapters were bound out of order; I took that as a sign.

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  63. Dorothy said on October 22, 2016 at 6:53 am

    Deborah – Judy Davis really steals every scene she’s in – she’s just so terrific! I hope you get to see it soon.

    Brian I can’t tell you how tickled it makes me when you nominate me for Thread Win! Hell I don’t even mind sharing it with Sherri – that’s a great compliment because she’s almost always near the top of the list for nominees! Anyway, it made my heart feel bigly in a very good way…thx!

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  64. Jenine said on October 22, 2016 at 7:40 am

    Yay for the Ham doc! We loved it. The untuned piano in the apt full of boxes was a convincing detail showing the whirlwind that was going on.

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  65. Deborah said on October 22, 2016 at 8:47 am

    I had to read the bible cover to cover when I was a freshman in college, I was astonished at how risqué it was and how violent. Some of it is very poetic.

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  66. Julie Robinson said on October 22, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Jefftmmo, I couldn’t agree more heartily about The Way We Live Now, which reads as if ripped from today’s headlines and proves once again that people and their traits really haven’t changed over the years. There’s a pretty great BBC version too.

    Hamilton, squee!!! I’ve been following this show since the 2009 White House appearance and have been a huge fan of Lin-Manuel Miranda since In the Heights. I’ve been listening to the album non-stop (Hamilton joke there) and read the Making of book, but this was still the best taste of what seeing the show will be like. It’ll have to do until next April, when we see it in Chicago–wonder how many times I can stream it until then?

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  67. Jakash said on October 22, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Congrats on the Thread Win, Dorothy! It’s nice that you appreciate it so much, though I’m sorry to tell you that the process of awarding that honor is more rigged than the Emmys or this Presidential election will ever be. It’s a bigly outrage, really. Sad! ; )

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  68. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on October 22, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    Deborah rightly commends the piece of animation she linked to earlier, but it is a hard punch to the gut. You might want to watch this first to decide if you’re in the right mood to see the piece: featurette is 3 mins, the animated short 6. But it’s brilliant, and not for children at all.

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  69. Sherri said on October 22, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Such nasty women:

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  70. Dexter said on October 22, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Kirk, I assume you know this guy…he guested on Ken Broo’s sports show on WLW-AM.
    Todd Jones (@Todd_Jones) | Twitter
    Columbus Dispatch

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  71. Sue said on October 22, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    So, Dylan fans, what’s going on with his silence?

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  72. Deborah said on October 22, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    Jeff, thanks for that link for the making of Borrowed Time, very interesting. I thought the animated short was extremely well done, not uplifting, as I said, but an inspiration in its quality of production. And you are correct, not for children at all.

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  73. MarkH said on October 22, 2016 at 11:11 pm


    ’nuff said.

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  74. Sherri said on October 23, 2016 at 12:31 am

    And the worlds hasn’t even ended. Yet.

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  75. Deborah said on October 23, 2016 at 2:26 am

    So I guess the Cubs won.

    Walking home from Trader Joe’s yesterday afternoon we saw the actor Eric Stoneman, who plays Cameron Tucker on the TV show Modern Family. I didn’t recognize him at all until some other people did and asked to take selfies with him. Then when I got home I had to Google the show to find out his name and his character’s name. I’ve seen the show barely enough times to realize who he was.

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  76. Deborah said on October 23, 2016 at 2:28 am

    Oops his name is Eric Stonestreet, see what I mean?

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  77. Judybusy said on October 23, 2016 at 1:13 pm

    Wait, wait, don’t tell me had some fun with the Dylan silence on this weekend’s show. I listen to the podcast. The guest was Garth Fagan, a choreographer who did the Lion King. Walking the dog, laughing out loud. I enjoy that show so much.

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  78. Jakash said on October 23, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    Cubs vs. Indians in the World Series? Fantastic!

    This is an apples and oranges comparison, of course. Adding a chilling bit of perspective to the rosy Presidential outlook we’ve been basking in of late, though — as recently as Oct. 11, after they’d each won their respective first playoff series, Nate Silver tweeted:

    “A Chicago Cubs vs Cleveland Indians World Series is now slightly more likely than a Trump presidency.”

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  79. Sherri said on October 23, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    Those anti-Hillary ads being run during the NLCS yesterday were paid for by Future45, a SuperPAC whose donors include the Ricketts family, owners of the Cubs. That doesn’t make them unique, of course; most sports team owners are conservatives except when it comes to taking government handouts for themselves.

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  80. Dorothy said on October 23, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Mike and I went down to Cincinnati yesterday for several specific shops/restaurants. I was greatly encouraged by the large number of Clinton/Kaine yard signs all over different neighborhoods. They vastly outnumbered the Trump signs. That heartened me a good bit.

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  81. Deborah said on October 23, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    About 5 years ago the Ricketts were asking for a huge handout from the city of Chicago to upgrade Wrigleyville. Rahm was pretty negative about it and nixed it. I did some graphic design for the booklet some architecture firms put together to be involved in the redesign of the area. It was quite extensive and would have taken over a bunch of residences and restaurants etc. I think the Ricketts threatened to move to the suburbs over it. But obviously that never happened.

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  82. Bitter Scribe said on October 23, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    From what I understand, the right-wing stuff comes from the family patriarch, the old fart who founded TD Ameritrade or whatever it is. In other words, a useless money massager who adds no value to anything.

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  83. Jolene said on October 23, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    Pete Ricketts, a son of the Ameritrade founder, is the governor of Nebraska. His wife is a Clinton supporter. (Some interesting detail re fundraising in this article. Even in usually bright-red Nebraska, Clinton has raised twice as much as Trump.)

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  84. Sherri said on October 23, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    The whole Ricketts family, patriarch, wife, and all four children own the Cubs, with Tom Ricketts as CEO. His brother Peter is the Republican governor of Nebraska, but sister Laura is lesbian and a big Clinton supporter.

    Larry Dolan, the owner of the Indians, is not a big player in political giving. He hasn’t, however, shown much indication of getting rid of the execrable Chief Wahoo.

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  85. Deborah said on October 23, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Julie, even Ed of Gin And Tacos liked it Where is this playing in Chicago?

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