Well, that particular problem wrapped itself up in a bow. Allow me to explain:
Kate has an internship opportunity this fall that could lead to permanent employment, although that’s a don’t-count-chickens deal for now. It’s in Los Angeles, and it starts unpaid. The job itself is in Malibu, which is a bit of a fur piece from the city proper. Money isn’t a problem yet — we have a lot of her 529 left over (thanks, scholarships and diligent saving) and can help her out for a while, but housing was a big question mark, as she can’t sign a lease without an income or a job. She was hoping to find a co-op house similar to where she lived in Ann Arbor, but no dice in pricey Malibu. Nor student housing at Pepperdine. She’d been Craigslisting her little heart out, looking for a short-term sublet, but when a spare bedroom in Culver City fell through, I told her I’d see what I could do.
L.A. Mary to the rescue, and in about 24 hours, to boot. She knows a guy who has a restored vintage Airstream trailer parked in his back yard, it’s coming vacant soon, and it’s in Venice, which location-wise is about the best possible solution. So barring a disaster, she’ll be moving in in October.
And get this: The house has a pool. About a mile from the ocean. And about 20 miles from Malibu. Man, when you have a problem in a faraway city, it always helps to know a few locals, and it really helps to know our Mary.
So thanks, Mary.
I only wish my commute was on the Pacific Coast Highway, although maybe not at rush hour.
I just spent some time looking at Google Maps. Sigh.
I really hope this works out for her. She’s a hard worker. But we all have to struggle, early in our careers.
Take Jeffrey Epstein, for example. Started as a humble high-school math teacher, but it wasn’t long before his sociopathic charm took him right to the top, and he did exactly what he liked along the way until only very recently, when he decided that he didn’t want to spend the rest of his life eating bologna sandwiches and canned fruit cocktail.
You can understand.
I’m not forming an opinion about it yet. Weird shit happens every day in our crazy world, but often, Occam’s razor applies. And if the Clintons were that powerful, why are so many of the people who tormented them for so long, who torment them to this day, still walking around free? Newt Gingrich is a tub of lard who couldn’t evade a trained assassin for 30 seconds. And Anthony Weiner, for cryin’ out loud. Neither man would be much missed by their wives. Callista might even leave the bedroom window unlocked. (Hell, she’d send a thank-you note.)
That said, what an utter failure of what should be simple procedure in a federal lockup. Hanging oneself in a cell isn’t as cut-and-dried as a drop from a gallows; often the deceased suffocates, and that takes time. This never should have happened, but you don’t need me to tell you that.
The other big event this weekend was the old-folks’ swim meet we held Saturday morning. It was all team events, almost all relays. We all swam two or three races, and the teams I was on won some, lost some. It was a very casual event, as you can imagine; we were encouraged to “take the ribbons you think you deserve,” for instance. I left with none. What am I going to do with ribbons? I had a great time, and saw our old buddy Tom, who took much of the last year off as he waited for, and then received, a kidney transplant. Now he’s back in the pool, and here he is, after finishing his lap:
Man, nothing photographs like a pool on a beautiful summer day.
I hope the next day you face is beautiful. See you Tuesday/Wednesday.
LAMary said on August 11, 2019 at 6:41 pm
The Venice to Malibu commute shouldn’t be too bad. Against traffic most of the way. Pacific Coast Highway can be horrible for no apparent reason occasionally. I’m really glad the Venice connection worked.
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Bitter Scribe said on August 11, 2019 at 7:52 pm
Kate is a fine young woman, armed with loads of talent and the character that her parents imparted to her, which IMO is the most precious gift parents can give to their child. She’ll do great.
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David C. said on August 11, 2019 at 8:38 pm
Unpaid internships are a disgrace, highly discriminatory, and should be illegal. The company I work for pays interns and there isn’t a company in the country that hires them that can’t afford to pay them at least minimum wage. They just don’t want to. I don’t blame anyone for taking them. They don’t make the laws and you have to play the game by the rules that exist, not the rules that a civilized society would make. But goddamn, working for nothing.
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Deborah said on August 11, 2019 at 9:10 pm
Our young friends, my husband’s former students from IIT in Chicago who visited us in Abiquiu the last couple of days, who live in Tokyo described their routes getting where they are now. Much of their journey included graduate degrees and internships because jobs weren’t available when they first graduated. Their paths included internships and total exploitation to get the jobs they have had. He’s from Moldova and she’s Australian but they very much are trying to get US citizenship even though they live in Tokyo now. These are the kind of people that this country would normally welcome because of their skill level, but now is difficult for them. Her mother is South Korean and her father is Japanese, though she grew up in Australia. Such a delightful young couple.
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MarkH said on August 11, 2019 at 10:08 pm
Not so fast, Nancy.
https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/08/10/the-list-of-clinton-associates-whove-died-mysteriously-check-it-out/
Newt is not a good example – no one believes him about anything. Why shut him up? Weiner, on the other hand…
And congrats to Kate (you and Alan, too). We’re going to hear from that young woman.
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lisa said on August 11, 2019 at 10:40 pm
Kate will have a cool story to tell later in life about living in that trailer in Cali. Sounds awesome!
LA Mary rocks!
Glad that your friend is doing so much better after that kidney transplant. My best friend had a transplant and it lasted her 20 years.
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Dexter Friend said on August 12, 2019 at 1:34 am
Kee-reist. I thought unpaid internships were outlawed, after all the talk I heard from the XM studios in New York City, where interns were always unpaid but then they were paid , so I thought it was a new law, but if it was, it was a state law only, I guess.
My daughter shared a big townhouse on 5th Street in Columbus for two years when she was at OSU. The other two OSU girls left Columbus as soon as they flipped the tassel and left for LA. My daughter’s sister-in-law also left immediately but for San Diego-Carlsbad. One dropped out of my daughter’s radar, and one hooked up with a recording corporation and advanced quickly and rocked the world with her success. Vanessa stayed in Columbus and just today moved outta Hilliard into a bigger house in Commercial Point. Yep, it has a Subway Sandwich Shoppe, a pizza joint, and a $$restaurant. And, yes, that’s all Commercial Point has. Why name it that?
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beb said on August 12, 2019 at 1:36 am
I have no idea why anyone would think the Clintons had anything to do with Epstein’s death. Bill is old news and something of a has-been. Even if he had his pants off it wouldn’t mean much today. Trump has a lot more to lose if he sampled Epstein’s forbidden fruit. While I’m sure there are a lot a mobsters on Epstein’s guest list. none of whom would care of the added scrutiny, and also comfortable about ordering a hit. Mostly likely someone just felt they were doing everyone a favor by avoiding a trial and looked the other way. But since that’s no way to run a jail, whoever looked away needs to be found and
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Dave said on August 12, 2019 at 1:50 am
Jerry Rasor was from Commercial Point, I know Dex won’t know who that is but longtime (read old) Columbus folk will remember him from Channel 4 and also as the host of (was it?) Dance Party, a Saturday morning show in the sixties, always with a different local rock band on the show.
Forgive me but the mention of Commercial Point summoned up this unrelated memory.
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BigHank53 said on August 12, 2019 at 2:24 am
It’s odd–when I go to look at the CBS station in Las Vegas, here’s what comes up on the ol’ search engine:
https://www.8newsnow.com/
Visiting https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com on the other hand…no channel number or broadcast frequency, the video pull-down contains no videos, many of the story links drift off into click-bait content farms. Looks like shit, smells like shit, and I don’t need to take a big bite in order to know that it’s shit.
D’you know how every single one of those Clinton death lists are bullshit? Because there is an actual scandal involving dead people that could legitimately be hung around Bill Clinton’s neck, and none of these right-wing cranks ever mention it. Back when he was governor of Arkansas, the state prison system was selling blood drawn from inmates. The program was utterly corrupt, with inmates being intimidated into participating, and having to pay kickbacks to the guards. The blood they sold wasn’t being tested for HIV, and as a result hundreds of hemophiliacs contracted the disease from the clotting factor that was supposed to keep them alive. Now, I’ll grant you that they all lived outside of the USA, because that’s where the blood got sent to…but if you’re trying to make Clinton look bad, why not use a story that’s actually, you know, documented and everything?
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/arkansas-prison-blood-scandal-3732/
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ROGirl said on August 12, 2019 at 4:29 am
The restored Airstream trailer sounds like the coolest place ever, so much better than some campus share situation.
My thinking about the Epstein suicide was that it wasn’t a conspiracy that did him in, but most likely a series of bureaucratic fuckups that allowed him to kill himself. People not following protocol, no oversight, no verification of the “suicide watch” checks, etc.
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Dorothy said on August 12, 2019 at 5:57 am
I’m confident Kate will wow them and that unpaid internship will turn into a paying job in short order. Fingers crossed. And those living arrangements sound pretty cool to me. Good going, Mary!
Some upcoming events I’m looking forward to: my birthday because Olivia’s favorite song these days is Happy Birthday, our two week trip to Ireland and Scotland, and (saving the best for last) dinner with Mr. and Mrs. Basset in Dayton in about 2.5 weeks!
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brian stouder said on August 12, 2019 at 8:11 am
Happy birthday, Dorothy!!
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Dorothy said on August 12, 2019 at 8:49 am
It’s not until August 31, but thanks buddy!
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Deborah said on August 12, 2019 at 9:05 am
Good for Kate, LA is where it’s at for young people these days. Lots going on there. What kind of internship is it? Music or movie related? Cool that LA Mary knew of the place Kate can stay.
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Deborah said on August 12, 2019 at 9:29 am
This is a weird coincidence, AG Barr’s father was head of the high school where college dropout Epstein taught https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/. I hadn’t heard that one until this morning.
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JodiP said on August 12, 2019 at 9:35 am
Having worked in the jail for the last two years, I can assure you that if a high profile case is here, they are extra careful. This year, a cop went to trial for killing a citizen and was actually found guilty. When he was taken into custody pending sentencing, he was on our 4-bed medical unit. I think it was protective and preventive.
Investigators are still looking into Ghislaine Maxwell, who allegedly conspired with Epstein to con young women and girls into his circle. May she rot in a special kind of hell. Oh, authorities are having trouble locating her….
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4dbirds said on August 12, 2019 at 10:03 am
Congrats to Kate. Sounds like a wonderful opportunity. I had to laugh at the Newt scenario. Everyone in our area knows where he lives.
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Sherri said on August 12, 2019 at 10:29 am
Congrats to Kate, and Zhao, LAMary!
We were talking a few days ago about the connection between authoritarianism and white evangelical Christianity. Along those lines, I recommend watching The Family, a six episode series just released on Netflix, based on Jeff Sharlet’s book of the same name.
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Sherri said on August 12, 2019 at 11:00 am
You know, I have to wonder, if we must have a seventy-something Former VP and failed presidential candidate who’s a relic of the 90s running for the nomination this year, why couldn’t we have Gore instead of Biden? I don’t want him, either, but a) he’s younger, and b) he did win the popular vote when he ran.
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Jeff Borden said on August 12, 2019 at 11:04 am
Ah, Malibu. Where as a young TV critic from the Columbus Dispatch I was present at the beachside home of Larry Hagman, who was exulting in his status as J.R. Ewing after the plot development where he’d been shot. CBS had the entire corps of critics at his pad, where we were served Japanese appetizers, Japanese beer and Japanese sake. At one point, Hagman’s septic tank overflowed. Reporters who needed to pee were ushered to the next door neighbors house, where Burgess Meredith lived. He became angry when an inebriated scribe asked him to do his Penguin squawk. Good times.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein. The salient portion of the story to me was the acute understaffing at the prison. The NYT says the guards were working something called “extreme overtime,” which certainly sounds like something that might induce fatigue and dullness. All these fucking anti-government types who want to reduce the workforce or turn it over to for-profit prisons piss me off. This incident is getting tons of coverage because Epstein was a high-profile pedophile, but I’ll bet this kind of thing happens frequently at most prisons.
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Scout said on August 12, 2019 at 1:44 pm
That’s awesome news for Kate! My grandson is moving to LA in October or November. I think he’s got his living arrangements squared away, but it sure is expensive there. My stepson lives there in a 1200 sq foot bungalow near La Brea and Melrose. They paid $1.3m for it a year ago. It’s a cool house, but damn. It’s completely mind blowing to me that people can afford to live there that don’t have the kinds of jobs my son and his partner do.
Not sure what to think about Epstein. It seems mighty conveeeeeeeeenient to a lot of high rollers for him to have taken himself out. And yet, based on the caches of compromising material they seized, it may be too late to stop the info from going public anyway. It’s got to be dismaying to the victims, though, to lose the opportunity for their day in court.
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Julie Robinson said on August 12, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Yay for Kate and Mary! Sending all the good vibes for success.
Sherri, our daughter was telling us about The Family yesterday, then topped it off with the info it was a documentary. Wowza. Will have to find time to watch it and get all angry.
Speculation of Epstein’s death is probably a waste of time, but I’ve wondered how much contact he had with fellow prisoners. Child molesters have historically not done well in jails, where even the murderers treat them with contempt and much worse. Maybe he got a little taste of what was coming for him. Or maybe it was a jailer, I mean really, who thinks we’ll ever know?
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Sherri said on August 12, 2019 at 2:41 pm
What Fox News has done to old people, YouTube is doing to younger people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/world/americas/youtube-brazil.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
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MarkH said on August 12, 2019 at 3:20 pm
BigHank53 @10 —
Of course it’s BS. My post was a joke to follow Nancy’s. Just pointing out that for every 20 people you have that the Clintons killed, I can find 20 more. With a few more co-conspirators.
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MarkH said on August 12, 2019 at 3:48 pm
Dave @9 – Were you still in Picktown for the blizzard of ’78? We lived on Hill Road, just south of Rt.256. Aside from the hellish storm itself, my memory is of then-weathercaster Jerry Rasor that late February night on Channel 4. He delivered the most the most apocalyptic forecast ever in such a deadpan manner he could have been reading from a phonebook, totally opposite of hysterical forecasters today. We went to bed thinking, ‘how bad could it be?’ We found out when 3:30AM rolled around waking us with 70mph winds, no heat or power, convinced our flimsy little rental was coming off its foundation. It didn’t. But Jerry wasn’t wrong.
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Sherri said on August 12, 2019 at 6:26 pm
As Adam Serwer said, when those in power are caught abusing that power in ways that are morally indefensible and politically unpopular, they will always seek to turn an argument about oppression into a dispute about manners.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/trump-evangelicals-blasphemy-profanity-1456178
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Dave said on August 12, 2019 at 7:41 pm
I was on a train that day, Mark H., it was quite an adventure until we came to a snowbound halt in a little widespot in the road named Broughton in Paulding County, Ohio, were we spent the day watching it snow like we’d never seen it snow. We’d been on what turned out to be the last train to leave Peru, (that’s Pee-roo to the locals) Indiana, when it was raining. By the time we got to Fort Wayne, being in a winter wonderland wasn’t descriptive enough.
My parents and siblings were at home on Blacklick Eastern Road, camped out around the Better-n-Ben’s fireplace insert stove that my parents installed and used for several winters. They still had electric heat in those days, so Ben saved them.
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alex said on August 12, 2019 at 8:52 pm
Dave, I remember road tripping to Broughton once. Totally on a whim. There was a pioneer family in the Swan/LaOtto area named Broughton who were connected with Underground Railroad people, so when I discovered Broughton on a map I decided I had to go check it out and see if it had any connection to these people. I didn’t find one, though. I think my library research turned up a different namesake for the town. Dumpy little place. I even took photos of what few buildings remain there. Although it could sure give Swan a run for its money.
It’s hard to fathom what California is like these days, not to mention the amount of money it takes to live there. I was acquainted with an elderly widow who was a retired college prof and she and her husband had been fairly well heeled by local standards. Her kids were in San Diego and so she wanted to move out there, but found that she couldn’t afford even the humblest lifestyle without some considerable subsidization from her children. She made the move anyway.
I think it will be a wonderful experience for Kate. There’s nothing quite like being young and fresh out of college and having a big city to explore and the experience of living in a totally different environment than anything that’s familiar. Wish I could do it all over again. And make better career choices this time around.
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LAMary said on August 12, 2019 at 10:48 pm
Buying a house here in a somewhat edgy neighborhood thirty three years ago was a smart move. I regularly get stuff from realtors telling me how much my house, which I must add is really nothing special, is worth. It’s worth about ten times as much as I paid. I had to cash some out to buy out the evil ex, but I’m still ahead of the game. I’m basically broke right now but my house is worth more than a million, supposedly. It’s possibly due to the fact I own two lots. When I bought the house I had no kids but two big dogs so I went for the big yard over the impressive house. And my neighborhood is a lot less edgy now.
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Joe Kobiela said on August 12, 2019 at 10:58 pm
Alex,
Thought of you today, I am overnighting in Willimsport Pennsylvania, big stop on the Underground Railroad unfortunately don’t have time to explore. Also today is the 40th anniversary of my first solo flight, 3 trips around the patch at shenks grass strip outside of Laotto in a 1947 Cessna 140 after a total of 6.5hr of instruction.
Pilot Joe
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alex said on August 13, 2019 at 7:32 am
I think it’s worth noting that today in NN.C history, Nancy talked about Fort Wayne and its famously cheap housing market back in 2003. (See Buy low, sell low.)
Serendipitously, today Fort Wayne is in the news for having the hottest housing market in the U.S.A.
This is based on the number of realtor.com searches of housing in Fort Wayne relative to the rest of the nation.
I hate to burst their bubble, but I probably visit realtor.com a dozen times a day and hit all of the top zip codes to see what’s new. It’s like an addiction. House porn. So their methodology is flawed, I’m afraid. But the market is indeed hot. Good stuff doesn’t last for more than a day. Anything that’s there longer than a week is either overpriced or just plain butt ugly.
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Suzanne said on August 13, 2019 at 10:13 am
Trump blinked, Xi won the stare down.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2019/08/13/white-house-delays-some-new-china-tariffs-until-dec-15-reflecting-concerns-of-trade-wars-effect-on-the-economy/
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alex said on August 13, 2019 at 4:45 pm
Here’s an example of a cheap flip in my neighborhood. It’s so fucking cheap it doesn’t even have an adhesive kitchen backsplash made out of costume jewelry baubles like you see in the crummiest crackerboxes.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5033-Ranch-Rd_Leo_IN_46765_M44165-12536?view=qv
It does have the usual uninspired gloomy gray paint scheme though. And low-end plank flooring and kitchen cabinetry from a big box store. Somebody snagged it at a tax sale for next to nothing and isn’t about to let aesthetic considerations eat into his fat profit margin.
This house had been reverse mortgaged in the early aughts, the mortgage then bundled and re-sold, and ultimately it defaulted to HUD. The owner went to assisted living in 2012 and died in 2013 and it has been empty ever since.
Since having gotten the Home Depot makeover it has been sitting on the market for months and I haven’t seen any realtors showing it. This is in a neighborhood where a good house scarcely lasts a day. (Hell, they’re building two new houses on my street in addition to the one that went up last year and it’s a 1950s subdivision!)
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Dexter Friend said on August 13, 2019 at 4:55 pm
The train has de-railed already so I’ll add this to Dave & Alex’s story: my niece lived in Broughton for 6 years and just moved back to Grover Hill.
Moving around the ‘nets today is this tale: the body shown at Municipal Corrections was a ringer…Epstein was taken out to a vehicle and sped away to Teterboro and a private jet and is having plastic facial reconstruction in Tel Aviv. 🙂 This shit is like a Superman-Lex Luther comic book. 🙁
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Scout said on August 13, 2019 at 5:09 pm
I read those rumors too, Dexter Friend, and given the crazy shithole this country has become, it’s not as far fetched as it might seem. The people who wanted him to keep his mouth shut could have easily funded such a caper.
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Dave said on August 13, 2019 at 5:17 pm
There used to be a store at Broughton on the north side of the railroad. It was like a general store and we used to run in there when we’d stop to meet other trains. Sometime later, the store disappeared and someone started selling ice cream and sandwiches there, they’d redone the entire interior so that it looked nothing like the general store appearance it’d had and looked like an ice cream stand. That didn’t last, either, and the building is gone today, they actually burned it in a controlled fire, I went by there the day the day they did it.
I mentioned Broughton thinking only I would know where it is but Alex has been there and Dexter had a family member who lived there before moving to the bigger town of Grover Hill. I have often wondered how any town in Paulding County, the flattest county in Ohio, I believe, happened to get a town with hill in the name. I’ve been there, not a hill in sight.
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Deborah said on August 13, 2019 at 5:51 pm
Dave, LOl “…not a hill in sight”, so true, many residential subdivisions are named after what is long gone.
My-oh-my there certainly are creative theories about what happened to Epstein. They’d make good movie watching for sure.
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Jakash said on August 13, 2019 at 6:06 pm
Opera star Placido Domingo is the latest, famous “open secret” sexual harasser, allegedly. Lots of women, creepy and unacceptable behavior. This paragraph was the element that struck me:
“One of them said she had sex with him twice, including at the Biltmore hotel in Los Angeles. When Domingo left for a performance, the woman said, he put $10 on the dresser, saying, ‘I don’t want you to feel like a prostitute, but I also don’t want you to have to pay to park.'”
Quite a predicament for a guy who wants to seem nice, while at the same time treating women like dirt. What a dilemma.
https://apnews.com/c2d51d690d004992b8cfba3bad827ae9
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on August 13, 2019 at 9:18 pm
$10 to park? How long ago was that?
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Sherri said on August 13, 2019 at 9:45 pm
Hey Bassett, the Tennessean has gone full paywall. Every now and then, there’s an article I’d like to read, but ever since it got Gannetified, it’s been pretty disappointing. On a scale of you’d have to pay me (New York Post, Daily Mail) to of course you’d pay (Washington Post), where would you place the Tennessean?
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jcburns said on August 13, 2019 at 10:12 pm
The Tennessean? South of the Mason Dixon line, that’s for sure. (But not as far south as the AJC.)
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Jakash said on August 13, 2019 at 11:18 pm
MM Jeff,
Not exactly sure, but I think that anecdote refers to 1991.
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on August 14, 2019 at 7:51 am
When my wife first went into college administration, the newer, younger faculty all understood “don’t sleep with students.” Consent had nothing to do with it, a principle older faculty were still coming to grips with: “but she came on to me?”
The challenge now is sorting out claims coming in about now long retired faculty, who grazed the academic pastures freely in the 60s and 70s: how do you assess those claims when there’s no force or coercion being put on the table, just that they (almost invariably “he”) had been sexually involved with students. And Prof. Chips is now 80-something, honored emeritus; do you revoke emeritus status for such assertions? Do they lose their right to being buried in the college cemetery or having the campus flag lowered to half staff on their passing?
Before the 90s it wasn’t technically against the rules to sleep with consenting students, it was just considered poor form. I have no trouble calling those earlier actions abusive and wrong, I’m just not sure how you punish those miscreants if you don’t have contemporary rules you can show they violated. Domingo appears to have made it easier by continuing his predations into a more modern era when newer rules can be applied . . . and the $10 on the TV just shows he saw it as prostitution of an effete variety.
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JodiP said on August 14, 2019 at 9:53 am
In social work training, uneven power dynamics are so drilled into our heads. Never develop dual relationships with clients or students. In MN, we are required to have ongoing ethics training to retain our license.
As an example of how careful one can be: In 2001, I had a student doing her practicum with me for nine months. We got along great, and wanted to be friends. We waited a year, then began hanging out. She remains one of the dearest people in my life, and lives in Windsor as a professor. She married a great guy and they have a daughter. We get to see them once a year when they come to town to see family.
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Sherri said on August 14, 2019 at 10:19 am
Jeff(tmmo), there may not have been rules against it, but it’s never been okay. It was, as you acknowledge, poor form, or scandalous, even back in the 60s and 70s.
What would a restorative justice process look like for situations like these, a process that didn’t put the concerns of the accused front and center? After all, no one is talking about putting anyone in jail, so it is possible to step beyond the constraints of the justice system model and look at ways that don’t allow the accused to claim an undeserved victimhood.
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basset said on August 14, 2019 at 10:27 am
Sherri, I don’t think I’m missing much by not paying for the Tennessean – they have a few good reporters who turn an interesting story once in awhile but you have to wade through the market-researched Gannett formula stuff to get to it.
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Suzanne said on August 14, 2019 at 10:30 am
So much winning! The stock market is heading down the crapper again. What’s Trump going to tweet this time to send it back up?
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Sherri said on August 14, 2019 at 10:40 am
Thanks, basset, that’s what I thought. About every six months or so, there’s something I want to read, and I just wanted to get a feel for whether there was anything else there worth paying for. Didn’t think there was, sad to say.
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ROGirl said on August 14, 2019 at 11:04 am
I was in a class as an undergraduate where the professor had an affair with a student, left his wife, and they got married.
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Deborah said on August 14, 2019 at 12:55 pm
At my Lutheran college the drama professor left his wife and ran off with a student, it’s was an enormous scandle of course. I don’t know if he and the student married. Which reminds me that I should look her up on FB, but I’m having a senior moment and can’t remember her name.
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Suzanne said on August 14, 2019 at 1:03 pm
They are becoming emboldened
https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/13/need-christian-nationalism-religious-neutrality-failed/
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Dave said on August 14, 2019 at 1:17 pm
At my high school, the 40-something year old band director left his same-aged wife and married a girl a year older than my sister not very long after she graduated. She was either 18 or 19. This would have been 1977. Actually, his obit is still available online and I see he would have been 47.
He recently passed away, he had a few more wives after her.
My aunt was secretary at the Southern Baptist church they religiously attended for a good number of years. Her successor as secretary ran off with the pastor, leaving their current spouses, a huge scandal in the church. My aunt and uncle and others left that church.
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Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on August 14, 2019 at 1:33 pm
Sherri, I suspect most campuses — and not a few church bodies — would benefit from a truth & reconciliation commission type process of debriefing and truth telling about their past. It would lift burdens and open up possibilities not even imagined, but the fear is still too tightly wound around current leadership. I’ve raised this in our community about the 1920s, and there’s precious little willingness to go there: “why dredge all that up, Jeff?” Yet it gets dredged and sifted in common interactions all the time.
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Jakash said on August 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm
Ohio State University is evidently attempting to trademark the word “The.” So they can sell t-shirts and hats emphasizing it, as they’ve had a preposterous campaign for years of stressing the fact that they’re “The Ohio State University.” I always thought that idea was stupid, to begin with. But this is ridiculous. Here’s an idea: how about *not* doing things to make people hate you more than they already do?
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1161417377290051584
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Sherri said on August 14, 2019 at 3:09 pm
Why dredge it up, indeed? Because in not doing so, you’re continuing to do harm. But, that’s what they can’t see, because then they’d have to see themselves.
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LAMary said on August 14, 2019 at 3:19 pm
At high school there were 4 teachers who married students.
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Julie Robinson said on August 14, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Similar Pastor/Secretary shenanigans happened at our daughter’s church two pastors ago. The church almost didn’t survive it. I don’t think the next pastor did much to rebuild trust, and she had to deal with it all ten years on.
At our own church the pastor hurt us too, and almost decimated the church, not through infidelity but by being such a jerk and driving people away. We finally got him out, but at the cost of losing so many people we had to close our school. The whole atmosphere was heavy, distrustful, and sorrowful.
Then we had a wonderful interim pastor who came in and immediately started asking questions and listening carefully to the answers. His very first sermon encouraged us to talk and grieve together, and he told us, in these exact words, that we had been through hell. He never called it that, but what we did was truth and reconciliation, and slowly we rebuilt together. I am forever grateful for him.
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beb said on August 14, 2019 at 5:23 pm
New York Times Deputy Washington editor has been demoted, according to Salon
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/14/new-york-times-demotes-editor-over-controversial-tweets/
The question is: why does he still have a job at the Times at all.
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Sherri said on August 14, 2019 at 5:47 pm
The answer, beb, is because they don’t understand what he did wrong. They think he just showed poor judgement, instead of a fundamental lack of awareness.
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Suzanne said on August 14, 2019 at 7:38 pm
Interesting if true.
https://twitter.com/BrainTaylorBBC/status/1161313756401537026
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alex said on August 14, 2019 at 8:22 pm
Bummed about Bill Richardson. Doucheowitz is getting his karmic comeuppance, though, so there’s that. Maybe Michael Cohen will spill about the underaged girls into whose mouths he stuffed wads of cash.
And the economy’s about to take a dump. Who could have ever imagined this would be welcome news?
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David C. said on August 14, 2019 at 8:58 pm
I don’t know if it’s welcome news, Alex. It sure is expected news though. Anyone who still says the Rs are better for the economy needs to shut up for the rest of their lives.
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Deborah said on August 14, 2019 at 10:25 pm
Sure enough every time the Republicans are in power they break the economy. Short term they seem to make progress and then invariably the bottom falls out and lots of people suffer. How long will it take people to realize this?
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Deborah said on August 14, 2019 at 10:28 pm
Oops, I must have misspelled my name or email address, as my last comment is in moderation.
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