Good news.

After a few days, weeks or months like we’ve had, would you be interested in reading an entirely pleasant story that may even make you smile?

Then have at it: How Nancy Faust and her organ set the tone for America’s pastime, a feature about Comiskey Park’s former organist.

We need more good stories about Nancys, in my opinion.

Long days, a night out. I’ll try to be back end of the week, but for now, Nancy Faust and a fresh thread.

Posted at 10:07 pm in Popculch |
 

100 responses to “Good news.”

  1. LAMary said on September 2, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    There was a news story about Nancy Pelosi at a hair salon (that was not supposed to be open) getting her hair done, not wearing a mask. She says she was set up. In other news, Trump is still a lying sex offender.

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  2. Mark P said on September 3, 2020 at 12:11 am

    I have no doubt she was set up. The shop owner turned the security video over to Fox. Pelosi also said she was seen without a mask because the video was right after her hair had been shampooed. So this is the biggest scandal they can come up with, and it’s not even about Biden.

    I have something better. Georgia “Governor” Kemp was shown standing close to some officials and reporters commenting about how people should be considerate of others by social distancing and wearing a mask. Naturally, he was doing neither.

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  3. Sherri said on September 3, 2020 at 1:00 am

    Well, this at least explains why some right wing troll thought that a clever response to my outlining the failures of our pandemic response was “Nancy Pelosi.”

    Because owning the libs will certainly defeat COVID. I feel so owned now. Hear that, COVID? I’m owned, you can go away now.

    Tom Seaver died, but because he was 75 and had dementia and Lyme disease in addition to COVID, I guess he didn’t die from COVID.

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  4. Dexter Friend said on September 3, 2020 at 1:38 am

    The little town I called home was a White Sox town. My grandfather who worked as Chief Mail Clerk on the NY Central RR between Cleveland and Chicago went to many games at Comiskey Park and when home, always had the Zenith table radio tuned to the Sox. All my tight buddies were Sox fans, and their families were as well, so we were Sox fans. After the army let me go, the first thing I did was start driving to Comiskey Park most every weekend the Sox were home. Sometimes we’d have a 4-car caravan, vans and cars packed with cases of beer and White Sox fanatics. Once my VW Bus’s generator slowly died on the way home and we got back home with basically no headlights. At the ballpark, I’d joke that the crack in the right field wall was put by me when I played a game there with my barnstorming team in 1968. So in 1971 something was different. Nancy Faust became a good reason to come out to the old ballpark. For many years we’d holler and sing along. Here’s something: Sometimes Nancy would really get it going with a tune, and she would get a standing ovation. I know it’s true because I was there and I was clapping. Nancy Faust was so great, it’s difficult to explain. At home, you could hear the muted notes perhaps, but in Comiskey Park those songs and those walk-up intos were REALLY loud.
    As the White Sox moved into a crappy new stadium in 1991, I tried to keep the faith, keep up my intense love of the Sox, but I drifted away. Now the Sox are great again, although they were slaughtered last night. Now I live in Ohio and my TV teams are the Tribe, the Redlegs, and the Tigers. I really do not know if any teams employ an organist, but I know most ballpark music is just push button digital , operated by a sound engineer.
    The best thing about Nancy Faust is just how cool a person she was, and apparently is.

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  5. Peter said on September 3, 2020 at 7:48 am

    Who’s the only person to have played for the White Sox and the Bulls? Nancy Faust.

    My favorite was when a ball player’s girlfriend was found to be underage and Nancy played “You’re Sixteen” when he came up to bat. The next time he came to town was after the affair and she played “Photograph”.

    The lady who replaced Nancy is a church organist – the Sox have some songs on tape when she’s late because of a mass.

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  6. Dorothy said on September 3, 2020 at 8:03 am

    So many great aspects to the Nancy story. I’m sorry I didn’t know about her when we saw a White Sox game in 1993 when we were in Chicago to visit one of my brothers. We have two organs in my department at UD and the older one seems to need repairs about every 18 months or so. The guy I have to call to service it is very chatty so I make sure I have a spare 15 minutes to chat (or rather, listen) when I need to get him on the horn.

    Seeing the picture of Nancy Faust wearing number 88 on her Sox uniform made me remember the first time we took our kids to a Pirates game in Pittsburgh. Josh was so excited, taking it all in. “Dad! Dad! Who’s number 88?!” he hollered. Mike looked confused and asked Josh to find the player with that number on his shirt. Little Josh had seen BB on the bat boy’s shirt and thought those were 8’s, not B’s. We still razz him about that to this day.

    The Rs are so desperate for a scandal they’re trying to crucify Nancy Pelosi for the haircut issue. But they can’t see the hypocrisy in their lack of criticism for Dummy Dumb Donald for ignoring, for months and months, the guidelines about keeping socially distant and wearing masks. Is it any wonder I have such a low opinion of anyone who is Trump supporter? Each one of them is just as stupid and clueless as he is.

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  7. Suzanne said on September 3, 2020 at 8:20 am

    A good thread from one of the Project Lincoln guys. Maybe he’s trying to absolve himself but much of it rings true. The modern GOP clearly is not interested In governing.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1300964211858833410.html

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  8. Deborah said on September 3, 2020 at 9:28 am

    There was an article in The Atlantic by Anne Applebaum about Ingraham that I read yesterday. The GOP is fucked up and ingraham is a big reason.

    We’re having extremes in temperature in northern NM lately. Today in Abiquiu where my husband is quarantining until he gets his Covid test results, it’s 55° now but a high of 93° this afternoon. And Tuesday the low in Santa Fe is supposed to be 37°. Crazy.

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  9. Icarus said on September 3, 2020 at 10:30 am

    Who’s the only person to have played for the White Sox and the Bulls? Nancy Faust.
    and Michael Jordan

    • so we have a shop owner that turned security video over to Fox;
    • a previous owner of a camera shop talking to Trump because the legitimate owner has too many morals;
    • and let’s not forget the new naturalized citizens who were punked at the RNC

    how low can we go

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  10. Jeff Borden said on September 3, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    One of the most effective TV spots the White Sox ever ran was with Nancy Faust quizzing viewers on who had played the most Sox games in history? Of course, it was her.

    There’s something wonderfully old-fashioned and reassuring about a organ at the ballpark. The Cubs have a guy seated at one right behind the public address announcer and visible from my seats in the infield, upper left deck seats. I much prefer it to the blaring rock, salsa and rap music they play through the new sound system installed by the billionaire owners. Before getting the video boards and the new speakers, Wrigley Field was one of the few ballparks where you could savor time between innings by chatting with your seat mates about what you’d just seen. It was a huge difference with Sox Park, where loud commercials and music began a nanosecond after the last out of the half-inning. Now, far too often, the music and the commercials at Wrigley drown you out.

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  11. Deborah said on September 3, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    I just listened to a fabulous interview with Anne Applebaum on the Lincoln Project podcast, again I don’t have a link but I found it through the Lincoln Project Twitter. It was scary in the way she laid out the ways we are headed toward an authoritarian regime, she lives in Poland, her husband is a Polish politician and she has seen authoritarianism all around her and studied it extensively. Many of the things the Trump administration espouses are just classic lead ups to authoritarianism, just classic.

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  12. Jakash said on September 3, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    Though I was never really a White Sox “fan”, I never hated them the way many Cubs fans do. We went to our share of Sox games both in the real Comiskey starting in the ’70s and in the new place, which really isn’t as bad as people love to rail about. (As far as the ballpark is concerned, that is. Jeff B. is right about the manufactured noise.) So, I’ve certainly appreciated Nancy Faust’s talent, humor and good-naturedness, but wasn’t aware that she was quite the pioneer that she was. Nice article.

    Yeah, Jeff, though Wrigley certainly must churn out quite a bit more money than it used to, it’s lost a hell of a lot of its “friendly confines” charm. I guess I’m among the few that misses the old days when every available spot wasn’t covered in advertising. The fact that the “family owners” are freaking Trump supporters doesn’t do much to assuage my disgust with the whole operation.

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  13. Joe Kobiela said on September 3, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    I’ll give old Nancy P a break, she probably thought the sign said saloon.
    Pilot Joe

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  14. David C said on September 3, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    What about-ism is pretty reprehensible but what the heck. Who keeps the dark roots on the Fox blondes touched up, Joe?

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  15. Julie Robinson said on September 3, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    Gee, where did I read PJ’s remark earlier? Oh yes, it was from someone else who watches Faux News. Try some thoughts of your own, please; we’re all tired of your cut and paste routine.

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  16. susan said on September 3, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    He calls himself “Pilot” Joe because he’s a fly-by troll. And he flies low.

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  17. Indiana Jack said on September 3, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    Just finished Applebaum’s Twilight of Democracy. Truly excellent but chilling.
    She’s an outstanding historian (Red Famine, Iron Curtain).
    Politically, she’d call herself a Thatcherite or Reagan conservative. In other words, a conservative you could have a meaningful debate with. And she knows a fascist when she sees one.

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  18. Sherri said on September 3, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    Postmaster General DeJoy donated $2.2 million to Duke so that his son could be on the tennis team.

    If you bribe the tennis coach to get your kid in, it’s a federal crime. Bribe the school, it’s business as usual. The Varsity Blues people mistake is that they tried to get off cheap.

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  19. alex said on September 3, 2020 at 3:13 pm

    The Lifetime Channel chick (whatsername) did the same thing to get her kids into USC and she’s doing time. Guess the bribe wasn’t big enough.

    In all fairness, at least when Joe cuts and pastes his spelling and grammar improve dramatically.

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  20. Sherri said on September 3, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    I was chatting with a neighbor the other day. She’s a regular voter, but not a politically active, glued to Twitter and the news person. She’s my age, kids mostly grown, white, upper middle class. She knows my political leanings, and she said to me, if we don’t get a Blue Wave this fall, is it going to be time to leave?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/opinion/im-doomsday-prepping-for-the-end-of-democracy.html

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  21. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 3, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    When John Lewis died, I went back and started re-reading the Taylor Branch trilogy “America in the King Years” starting with “Parting the Waters,” then “Pillar of Fire” and closing with “At Canaan’s Edge.” It closes with King’s assassination.

    I came out of it with a new appreciation for not only Lewis, but Andrew Young, as well as MLK & LBJ. Both of the latter two made some poor choices around stress management, but reading these accounts helps you do some justice to them in how much stress they were taking in.

    As for America, in the King Years and the decades since . . . it’s not time to leave. But I understood better why so many did in the late 1960s. Malcolm X & Bob Moses to Africa, others into other forms of safe harbor. God bless Fannie Lou Hamer and Diane Nash and Septima Clark, and all things considered: we have a ways to go to get to the Beloved Community, and I’m against Trump among other reasons because he wants to jam the gearshift into R. But we are not, thank God, where we were. And while I have my own share of mildly horrifying stories about racism where it hides and how it lurks, Sheriff Clark and Bull Connor and George Wallace were just the tip of a terrifying iceberg in the 1960s that has melted, but still bobs around in our home waters waiting to rip out the bottom of boats filled with children and the innocent.

    Seriously, I can’t recommend the three weighty books enough. In these circles, they’re not beyond the reading and understanding of anyone here. Sometimes I wish I could hand them out as an assignment, but for many audiences it’s still too much to take in. Harsh medicine, but I think healing for those who can take it. And Lord, what an evil, evil man J. Edgar Hoover was.

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  22. Deborah said on September 3, 2020 at 3:59 pm

    I have done no research yet to back this up but I’m about to: J Edgar Hoover and Billy Barr seem to be cut from the same (over sized) cloth.

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  23. Sherri said on September 3, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    You don’t live in a state that the current administration considers an enemy, Jeff(tmmo).

    Hell, when he wanted to reverse a decision about college football, he only contacted the Big Ten. I don’t think he knows the PAC 12 exists. We’re out there in those states he doesn’t care about.

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  24. Jeff Borden said on September 3, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    Jakash,

    One of my long-time partners in Cubs ticket ownership dropped out last year over the Ricketts’ embrace of Hair Furor. Todd is the national finance chairman for the reelection effort and Pete is the governor of Nebraska, who threatened to withhold state funds from any municipality that took Covid-45 seriously. A gay sister is very liberal and was a bundler for Obama, but overall, it’s a seriously rotten family.

    But I decided I wasn’t going to let a bunch of tRumpsuckers deprive me of the pleasures of watching Kyle Hendricks work the strike zone, Javy Baez work his infield magic or Anthony Rizzon hitting to the gap. And while I am not overly fond of the loud music, I’ve come to love the video boards and the other improvements to the ballpark. Hell, a man can even buy a shot of tequila on a cold April day if he is willing to pay about three times what it would cost in a bar. . .a treat not available before.

    The Yankees have a long and glorious and storied history and have often been owned by utter assholes the fans loathed. I’m in that camp.

    At least for now.

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  25. Jakash said on September 3, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    I was never the fan that you evidently are, even when I cared more than I do now, Jeff. A dozen games a year, tops, between multiple ballparks. Outings in April were seldom appealing, for any reason. I’ll grudgingly admit that the video boards are a welcome addition, but the “in for a dime, in for a dollar” of the advertising placement throughout the place annoys me. Yeah, if a $10 beer doesn’t quite hit the spot, it’s nice to be able to buy an $11+ Jim Beam cocktail, I suppose.

    I’ve tried to cut back on funding millionaires for quite a while now; knowing that these owners are who they are just makes it even easier.

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  26. LAMary said on September 3, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    The TV lady got a whopping two month sentence and her hubby got five months for lying to get their kids into USC (University of Spoiled Children). J Edgar and Bill Barr might have similar approaches to the law, but I’ve never heard of him having the proclivities Hoover had. Check out the story Tim Gunn told on Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me about Hoover and Vivian Vance.

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  27. Deborah said on September 3, 2020 at 6:24 pm

    The design firm I worked for before I retired was involved in some of the changes to Wriggleyville after Ricketts bought the Cubs, which I found unfortunate. It was all about hauling in as much dough as possible, it seemed like it was going to lose some of the authenticity of the area and small business owners were going to lose out. I retired before it all happened and I don’t get to that part of town very often so I don’t really know how it ended up.

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  28. LAMary said on September 3, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    Hmm. I thought I had managed to post something with my phone earlier but it seems to not be the case. Lori Laughlin (I think that’s her name) only got 2 months of prison and her hubby got 5 for paying a guy to pay a bribe to get her two daughters into USC by saying they would be great on the rowing team. They had photoshopped pics and everything.
    Also, Bill Barr and J Edgar may have the same approach to the law, that is that the law is what they say it is at any given time. However, I don’t think they shared Hoover’s fondness for cosplay. Tim Gunn, the guy from Project Runway, is the son of an FBI agent, and he told a great story on Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me about visiting Vivian Vance in J Edgar Hoover’s office. I bet you could find it online.

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  29. Deggjr said on September 3, 2020 at 7:53 pm

    Nancy Faust also likes the Gilmer Road House, which is quite an unusual restaurant: http://prev.dailyherald.com/story/?id=99476

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  30. alex said on September 3, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    J. Edgar, Roy Cohn, Big Jim Thompson…

    Amazing how the biggest closet queens of all time were also the biggest open secrets, not to mention the biggest fascists, at least the former two. It’d be delightful to see Bill Barr outed, even more than Mike Pence.

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  31. Deggjr said on September 3, 2020 at 7:59 pm

    Cubs co-owner Todd Rickett’s ‘forgot’ to tell the county property tax assessor that he tore down and old house and built a new house on the property. Shockingly no one in the Rickett’s household noticed they were paying taxes on the torn down property.

    “State law required Ricketts to notify the assessor that he had built a new home in 2010, but a spokesman for the assessor’s office said there’s no record that Ricketts ever did.”

    What a guy, what a family, what a citizen, what a Republican.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-todd-ricketts-wilmette-property-taxes-20190709-c335ggdjvjbvposhwd3f77gwxa-story.html

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  32. Deborah said on September 3, 2020 at 8:27 pm

    One of LB’s friends brought us some home grown tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini and basil from her garden today. Scrumptious. I know it’s such a cliche this time of year, but it’s soooo much better than store bought and even The farmers market. Fresh picked less than an hour before is amazing. Our sad garden didn’t give us anything like this.

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  33. LAMary said on September 3, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/04/793443375/wait-wait-best-of-the-decade

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  34. Mark P said on September 3, 2020 at 11:04 pm

    I just heard an account on the radio of an Amish cult leader who shamed “sinners” in his community by cutting hair and beards. He wasn’t satisfied with shaming his own cult members so he got a gang of his young cult members, went to another Amish community, and forcefully cut the hair of someone there. They were not amused, so they called 911 on them. They played the 911 call, which was kind of funny — reporting a drive-by haircutting. The feds got involved and it became much less funny. The cult leader got 15 years. I could easily picture Mike Pence as the cult leader.

    The cult leader was recently released to serve out his term at home:

    https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/03/amish-beard-cutting-leader-sam-mullet-to-serve-rest-of-sentence-at-home-after-he-raises-concerns-about-coronavirus.html

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  35. LAMary said on September 3, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    I see my comment did make it twice. Feel free to delete one. This Atlantic article is all over the place tonight.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

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  36. beb said on September 3, 2020 at 11:22 pm

    No matter how hard Nancy tries the real world is so depressing that people can’t not stop talking about it.

    Veterans are suckers, vote twice in Pennsylvania, defunding blue states, “I don’t have Parkinsons,” All this in the last 2-3 days? It’s clear that Trumo is the Anti-Christ and we are all the Left Behinds.

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  37. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 4, 2020 at 7:22 am

    Watching those movies in my not-too-terribly misspent youth I always had the sneaking suspicion I’d end up left behind. And this was before “Left Behind” for those who don’t remember “A Thief In the Night.” Thanks for the confirmation of my apostasy, beb.

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  38. Jim said on September 4, 2020 at 8:38 am

    The current White Sox organist, Lori Morgan, is a Fort Wayne native. I think she’ll be well liked.

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  39. Deborah said on September 4, 2020 at 10:13 am

    Snow is actually in the forecast for Santa Fe on Wednesday. Meanwhile today’s high will be 89 and Sunday’s will be 93.

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  40. LAMary said on September 4, 2020 at 11:46 am

    Deborah, 31 years ago I was camping not far from Santa Fe. It got cold overnight and we woke up to snow. We weren’t prepared, so we packed up and headed into town to buy warm socks, sweatshirts, anything warm. The weather in the mountains makes some sharp turns.

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  41. brian stouder said on September 4, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    Beb – and indeed – Trump-istas think they’re in “the party of Lincoln” – and their president/standard bearer all-but renounces the Gettysburg Address!

    “All these’honored dead’ are really just losers, amIright? C’mon – what’s the big deal?” – etc

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  42. Suzanne said on September 4, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    Late to the party, but attending nonetheless.

    “In a feat of rank idolatry toward the end of his RNC speech last week, Mike Pence amended a verse from the Book of Hebrews that speaks of believers fixing their eyes on Jesus and replaced the name of the Christian Messiah with “Old Glory,” an affectionate nickname for the American flag.”

    “The only real allure that a Faustian bargain with a morally bankrupt politician can hold for Christians is the allure of religious power. If you really care about the outward forms of religious devotion; if you miss a time when politicians felt the need to pay lip service to Christian piety even when they didn’t believe a word of it; if you wish that your church had the same kind of pull in the corridors of power that it had 40 years ago; if you really care whether the signs at the White House say “Merry Christmas” instead of “Happy Holidays” — then of course the Republican Party will seem inseparable from Christianity. But if you care that much about popularity and power, you probably shouldn’t have picked a poor, despised, crucified man to be the object of your religious devotion.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/put-not-your-trust-in-princes-or-in-republicans/

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  43. Jakash said on September 4, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    Let’s see. On one hand, you have the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic willing to go on-the-record citing sources saying that Trump thinks soldiers who sacrifice their lives are “losers” and “suckers.” You have AP independently backing this up. You have a record of Trump publicly referring to John McCain as a loser and “not a war hero.” You know that Trump has said publicly that he views avoiding STDs in the ’90s as “my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider.” You know he’s publicly disrespected various American generals on multiple occasions. You know he publicly disrespected Khizr Khan, the father of a slain soldier.

    On the other hand, you have Hair Furor denying the Atlantic story and claiming it’s fake news. You know, the guy who’s told an estimated 20,000 lies since becoming president, depending on who’s doing the calculating. He’s even willing to “swear on whatever or whoever” he’s asked to swear on. That means a lot, coming from him. After all, you know the Bible is his favorite book… You have other reliable toadies and noted liars saying that they never heard him say such things.

    Seems like a toss-up!

    I find it interesting that this may be one stupid, monomaniacal, tone-deaf situation he’s put himself in that may actually be worse than shooting somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue. I haven’t checked, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Susan Collins is concerned.

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  44. Jeff Borden said on September 4, 2020 at 4:25 pm

    While the tRumpanzees howl over the article in The Atlantic, it’s hard to discount tRumpy’s view that anyone who does anything that won’t generate income is a loser. Recall when he visited George Washington’s home at Mount Vernon, how he snarked it was a wasted opportunity for the Founding Father not to have named his property for himself.

    But as my man Charles P. Pierce argues today in Esquire online, isn’t it about fucking time these anonymous leakers started giving their names? The preznit is taking a wrecking ball to this nation every damned day. He is a clear and present danger. Stand up and be counted. Don’t be like a Senate Republican. Show some spine.

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  45. bb said on September 4, 2020 at 4:46 pm

    Am I desperate in my silver-lining search, or does this qualify as good news in regards to the Atlantic story: The Pentagon announced that next month they want to shut down the Stars & Stripes, which literally dates back to the US Civil War. Trump promptly tweeted that he won’t let that happen. Thank heaven for Don John’s love of the troops….

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  46. David C said on September 4, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    Fox News confirmed The Atlantic’s story. Dipshit Donald is toast. A holiday weekend is the perfect time for the Rs to arrange a health emergency to try to get him off the ballot.

    https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1301975321495973889

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  47. Dave said on September 4, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    Jakash at 43, I like your last sentence.

    Of course, he’s denying it, every word, but as others say above, with all the other rotten things he’s said, who, other than the true believers, wouldn’t think it true that he said those things.

    Yet, I still see the same rotten postings from a couple of extended family members.

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  48. Dave said on September 4, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    Surprising to me how my post shows up twice! I did not intentionally do that.

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  49. Deborah said on September 4, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    The senior officials need to come clean, not just the ones sourced in the Atlantic piece but all of the ones who have been privy to horrendous behavior by this president. The Amercan people have a right to know. Our democracy hangs in the balance. Not that we already don’t know, we do know how much Trump lies and how insecure he is and how narcissistic he is. How can these people who know sleep at night.

    Even Fox has reported confirmation of the sources.

    I’m curious, you journalist among us, how often do you come across anonymous sources unwilling to out themselves when it comes to a corrupt government, locally or otherwise? Is that the general rule or are there more brave souls than it seems like?

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  50. susan said on September 4, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    bb @45 – Why doesn’t “someone in the media” ask who ordered the shut down of Stars and Stripes? Hmmmm. I wonder who did that?

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  51. Deborah said on September 4, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    We all know now that Trump is going to say the election was rigged and will refuse to leave. It is a foregone conclusion, it is inevitable. Even if Biden wins by a landslide he will sue and obfuscate as much as possible. He will, and we know it. I hope there is a plan in place to kick him out of the White House. I really do. I didn’t believe this even a few weeks ago, but I do now.

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  52. Joe Kobiela said on September 4, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    So what is Biden going to do if Trump wins? Hillary is already spouting off that no matter what the outcome he shouldn’t concede.
    Pilot Joe

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  53. Sherri said on September 4, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    That’s not what Hillary said, but you probably know that.

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  54. Julie Robinson said on September 4, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    We now interrupt this bickering with an announcement: Dennis retired today. They threw him a big party today, complete with a cake featuring the beach, for Florida. No one really seems to realize that Orlando is inland. But, I quibble. He’s free!

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  55. Koe Kobiela said on September 4, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    So do you have the direct quote?
    Pilot Joe

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  56. Joe Kobiela said on September 4, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances because I think this is going to drag out,” Clinton warned.

    Hillary Clinton
    August 25th politico
    Pilot Joe

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  57. Deborah said on September 4, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    In Santa Fe they have a ritual every Labor Day weekend, it’s a giant effigy of the old man of gloom that they burn, it’s called Zozobra. It’s usually a well attended big event but this year it will be a virtual event, no crowds. We’ve never been to the event, it’s usually a scene that we try to stay away from. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zozobra

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  58. basset said on September 4, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    Got the car situation sorted out, ex Enterprise rental Hyundai Elantra. So we now have two domestic imports, that one made in Alabama and a Subaru made in Indiana.

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  59. jcburns said on September 4, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    See Pilot Joe? It’s tricky. First of all, she did not “spout off.” She spoke. “Spout off” just expresses your personal contempt for her. Second of all, here’s the whole quote: “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don’t give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is.”
    She went on (and yes, there’s more): “We’ve got to have a massive legal operation, I know the Biden campaign is working on that. We have to have poll workers, and I urge people, who are able, to be a poll worker. We have to have our own teams of people to counter the force of intimidation that the Republicans and Trump are going to put outside polling places. This is a big organizational challenge, but at least we know more about what they’re going to do.”
    Nothing she’s saying there is against the law or, in a pandemic age where mail-in voting is being called untrustworthy by the GOP, nothing she’s saying there isn’t sensible. She’s not telling him what to do (to quote you) if Trump wins, she’s telling him what to do if there’s shady stuff on the Trump side.
    You know, like in Florida in 2000. And in some rural counties in Wisconsin in 2016, and…and…

    Jimmy Carter’s Carter Center voting integrity team, usually sent to small countries around the world to monitor voting irregularities, will instead be doing that in our country this year.

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  60. Sherri said on September 4, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    PJ is just trying to distract himself from Dear Leader’s contempt for the troops. The cognitive dissonance is hard on him.

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  61. basset said on September 4, 2020 at 10:28 pm

    Meanwhile, this – major pharma companies saying they won’t be arm-twisted into releasing a vaccine before it’s ready:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/04/us/politics/covid-vaccine-pharma-pledge.html

    hope that works, trimmed off a whole bunch of location clutter at the end.

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  62. jcburns said on September 4, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    Exactly right Basset, thanks for going to the trouble.

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  63. Mark P said on September 4, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    I never would have expected to ask this question, but does Fox News know something? It must mean something when your own propaganda arm turns against you.

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  64. Deborah said on September 5, 2020 at 12:27 am

    Pilot Joe, your hero Sully has this to say about your president. Click on the thread https://mobile.twitter.com/Captsully/status/1301998157404962823

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  65. john (not mccain) said on September 5, 2020 at 12:52 am

    Trump could piss all over a certain black wall in Washington and the maskless menace would congratulate him on his aim.

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  66. beb said on September 5, 2020 at 2:10 am

    Raw story says Trump Jr was attacking Joe Biden for exploiting soldiers when Biden condemned Trump, sr. denigration of the troops. This might qualify for Irony if the day except that Sr. seemed to have ordered the Stars and Strips to be, not merely cancelled but, apparently, erased from the earth. Only to rescind the order after it was publicized. On that’s irony.

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  67. Dexter Friend said on September 5, 2020 at 4:15 am

    Scene: Planning meeting hastily called for 2017 inauguration.
    Trump: “No floats. I want tanks, troops, as many as possible, marching along in the streets. Make this look like North Korea.”
    No joking here, no punch line…this is what happened in January, 2017.
    Somebody called in the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the military parade was not about to happen, but Trump is still seething about it; this is why he wanted it this past July 4.

    Kelly O’Donnell (msnbc) tried to sort the story of Trump, in France, refusing to go to the graveyard for the 75th Anniversary. Trump was scheduled to helicopter to the remembrance, but flying conditions were too dangerous, and the military, not Trump, scrubbed the flight. Ground transportation had not been planned , and the huge caravan through towns, residential areas, villages, and on and on, well, no security had been set up, so The Secret Service advised Trump and the other dignitaries that driving would be too great a risk. Did Trump say some shit about his hair getting wet? Apparently it may have been a joke like Reagan’s (that goddam fascist!) saying he was going to bomb Russia in 5 minutes…perhaps Trump could have insisted he be driven through unsecured roadways…nah…he never would have done that. Anyway, you know I hate Trump, but I also like to read the truth…that day in France was complicated, but believe what you may, no big deal, I mean, Trump got a lot of shit about that day, and that is good regardless. 🙂

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  68. Dorothy said on September 5, 2020 at 8:37 am

    Dexter did you know that yesterday, when asked about the France cemetery story, Dumby Dumb said “I really wanted to go but had to cancel due to ________. I called Melania back home and told her how upset I was that I could not go to the cemetery!” (I’m paraphrasing but this is the gist of what he said) The fly in the ointment: Melania was in France with him on that trip.

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  69. Julie Robinson said on September 5, 2020 at 10:01 am

    Oddly enough the European leaders were able to overcome the conditions and pay their respects.

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  70. Suzanne said on September 5, 2020 at 10:06 am

    Here is the threat from Jennifer Griffin of Fox News

    https://twitter.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1301975321495973889?s=21

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  71. Suzanne said on September 5, 2020 at 10:12 am

    #70 that’s “thread” not “threat”

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  72. alex said on September 5, 2020 at 10:29 am

    The right’s ostentatious patriotism and piousness have always been mere camouflage for their underlying commitment to white supremacy. If a hot mic caught Trump belittling Jesus as a loser and a sucker it wouldn’t cost him a single vote. Trump just pulled back the gauzy veil of patriotism and Fox is laying into him for blowing half their cover.

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  73. David C said on September 5, 2020 at 10:48 am

    This is a long read and off the current topic but is scary as hell and spot on.

    https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/09/03/what-ails-america/

    Our system of commercial medicine, dominated by private insurance, regional groups of private hospitals, and other powerful interests, looks more and more like a numbers racket. We would like to think we have health care that incidentally involves some wealth transfer; what we actually have is wealth transfer that incidentally involves some health care. If birth is not safe, and is less safe for some than for others, then something is wrong. If more money is extracted from young adults for health care, but they are less well than older generations, something is wrong. If the people who used to believe in the country are killing themselves, something is wrong. The purpose of medicine is not to squeeze maximum profits from sick bodies during short lives but to enable health and freedom during long ones.

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  74. bb said on September 5, 2020 at 11:23 am

    susan @ 50–That’s exactly it. You’d have to go on a Diogenes-level search, lantern in hand, to find one military member, past or present, who is thinking: You know how the government should save some money? Stop printing the one paper that covers the news from the perspective of, “How might these current events effect our troops?” That “the Pentagon” came up with the idea to scuttle Stars & Stripes is ludicrous on its face. It’s just a piece of the pattern we’ve all watched develop for the past 3.5 years. Don John orders something idiotic. Public outcry is louder than expected. Don John tweets out, “Only I can save you!” Don John orders his minions to stop the idiotic thing he set in motion himself. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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  75. Jakash said on September 5, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    Thumbs up to Julie @ 69. Gee, I wonder if Il Douché might have found a way to make it if there had been a rally with 15,000 cultists waiting, rather than a cemetery full of “losers” and “suckers.”

    As for Sully, that’s a fine thread, Deborah @ 64. Unfortunately, Trump probably prefers pilots who land on runways, not losers who land on rivers.

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  76. Deborah said on September 5, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    We cleaned out the garage the last few days and later next week we’ll take some stuff to the dump. It’s amazing how much stuff you accumulate and then eventually throw away. They have an organization here in Santa Fe called “Buy Nothing” online. You put stuff you no longer want but someone else might, it’s all free and we’ve given a lot away that way but some of it isn’t worth it so off it goes to the “transfer station”, like leftover wood from our cabin project etc. most of that got carted away in Abiquiu but some of the red Spanish cedar we brought back here thinking we’d use for something.

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  77. Jakash said on September 5, 2020 at 4:31 pm

    This Tampa Bay Times piece on friend of nn.c Laura Lippman’s new book of essays is in the Chicago Tribune today, too. If one can navigate around all the ads and suggested articles…

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/books/ct-books-laura-lippman-life-villainess-0830-20200821-dhkjpasoxfbkvkawipyidac35m-story.html

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  78. Brian stouder said on September 5, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    Julie – congratulations to you and yours! I’m a few years away from that landmark, and it will be a very bright day, indeed

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  79. Sherri said on September 5, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    The two best jokes for the boat parade sinking I’ve seen on Twitter:

    Dumbkirk

    The Klannish Armada

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  80. susan said on September 6, 2020 at 12:31 am

    “My boat sank in Lake Travis.”

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  81. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 6, 2020 at 8:49 am

    Mr. Terhune was convincing. I bought it when I first saw it on Twitter, but it turns out he’s a comedian. And an effective one!

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  82. Deborah said on September 6, 2020 at 9:08 am

    “The good ship Magaritaville” ha ha ha, what a great metaphor for the Trump administration.

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  83. Jakash said on September 6, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    Yep, that’s a good one, Susan. I think I made it to about Magaritaville before I realized it was a parody. It gets harder and harder to make up something that is stupider than some of the shit that actually goes on in this benighted country.

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  84. basset said on September 6, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    Remember the British ambassador who got forced out after his opinions on Trump got leaked? Of course, he has a book coming out and insights to share: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kim-darroch-book-my-ringside-seat-at-donald-trumps-wacky-white-house-pqpq9768c

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  85. Sherri said on September 6, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    Remember Michael Bloomberg? Remember how he was going to spend all kinds of money on behalf of whoever got the Democratic nomination because he really wanted trump out?

    I guess what he really meant was, as long as it’s me. Don’t forget that the next time he tries to position himself as the savior for any cause.

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  86. Jeff Borden said on September 6, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    I don’t feel a bit guilty about enjoying the spectacle of a bunch of tRumpanzees flailing around in Lake Travis as their expensive toys founder and sink. Reports are there were no physical injuries, though the blows to personal pride were probably brutal.

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  87. Deborah said on September 6, 2020 at 1:36 pm

    The heavy, multiple masts on the boats with flags being tossed about in the wind didn’t help the situation. I’m glad no one was hurt, it could have been bad.

    As Neal Katyal said on Twitter, “DeJoy did a D’Souza?”. But will he be indicted? At least he should resign.

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  88. jcburns said on September 6, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    I’m trying to figure out why this year it’s all about the political flags as opposed to the yard signs. Maybe they’re harder to vandalize? They give you more of a “we’re going into battle” vibe?

    Of course, I’m still shaking my head at the blue line flag, which looks like a desecration of the American flag, and that yellow ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ one just kinda looks…cowardly.

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  89. Sherri said on September 6, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Yes, JC, it is hard to figure how Kaepernick kneeling during the national anthem before a football game is disrespecting the flag, but appropriating and modifying the flag for your own purposes to support a political stance is just fine and dandy.

    Except, of course, IOKIYAR, because they’re the only Real Americans.

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  90. James said on September 6, 2020 at 3:12 pm

    Did you know Mr. Good Trouble, a.k.a. Congressman John Lewis, appeared as himself in an episode of the cartoon Arthur?

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  91. Sherri said on September 6, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    I wish writers would at least google those allegedly undecided voters and shy Trump voters before they include them in their stories.

    https://twitter.com/jbenton/status/1302634078513123329

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  92. beb said on September 6, 2020 at 3:41 pm

    Sherri@91. This happens so often that it almost has to be deliberate. A reporter interviewing a GOP party official and pretending that this is a man-in-the-street interview.

    I read this morning that DeJoy was in the habit of pressuring employees at one of his companies to make campaign contributions to Republicians then compensating them afterwards with “bonuses.” I believe this is a violation of federal campaign laws.

    And a judge has placed a temporary restraining order that the Trump mob can’t cut short the enumeration portion of the census. Citing irreparable injury if they do. Ya think!! I almost wonder if in a Biden administration whether the government can’t re-open the census and do it right?

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  93. Deborah said on September 6, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    Warning, don’t click on James’s link, don’t give them (whoever made the video) the satisfaction. It’s despicable. Who is This guy? No friend of mine. What an asshole.

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  94. James said on September 6, 2020 at 4:45 pm

    Deborah, no, I don’t know you. All I’m sharing is a commentary by a leading Black pundit about John Lewis and his appearance on Arthur.

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  95. Deborah said on September 6, 2020 at 5:09 pm

    All I can say nn.c is be wary.

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  96. jcburns said on September 6, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    I think ‘James’ might be referring to this: https://youtu.be/pnRTTtrTl8U?t=760 …not sure why he linked to a video with Tariq Nasheed unless he was trying to foment ‘bad trouble.’

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  97. James said on September 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    No, it’s the Tariq video I intended to post. His commentary is very funny.

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  98. Sherri said on September 6, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    Instead of going to the cemetery, trump spent his time wandering the ambassador’s residence and picking out art he wanted to bring back with him. The punchline is, he picked out replicas and copies instead of the good stuff.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-ended-2018-france-trip-having-art-loaded-on-air-force-one/

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  99. Deborah said on September 6, 2020 at 7:02 pm

    Moving on.

    Today LB and I had a lazy “Do Nothing” day. No projects just R and R. I even took a rare afternoon nap. LB’s friend is bringing over some more bounty from her vegetable garden. Everyone here is getting ready for a serious cold snap Tuesday and Wednesday. Snow is no longer in the local forecast but temps over 32 or 33° are. We’re going to lose some plants that were producing a few veggies and we’re bringing in our house plants way earlier than expected. Friday we’re getting the fireplace cleaned so we can’t have a fire until until after that.

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  100. Deborah said on September 6, 2020 at 7:41 pm

    Our former neighbor in St. Louis, Cardinals player Lou Brock has died. We lived in the same high rise and we used to see him on the elevator. Even saw him wearing his umbrella hat, the brockabrella once. That was a long time ago.

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