Help wanted: Editors.

Joe Rogan is in the news these days. This is a development that leaves me feeling so utterly out of it, I feel like taking up knitting, mainly because I only recently learned who Joe Rogan is. I didn’t watch the show he hosted (“Fear Factor”), because it sounded boring and ridiculous, and I don’t pay attention to mixed martial arts, his other big claim to fame, and so when you tell me this guy has millions of listeners to his podcast, I think: Huh. OK.

While I don’t doubt the people who claim he’s racist and sexist, podcasts can be cherrypicked and words taken out of context, so I thought I might check him out and see for myself. (I retain my Spotify subscription. For now.)

I should tell you my prejudices about podcasts up front: I think most of them are too long. It kills me that so many pods are produced by people who have undeniable assets but no radio experience, and make shows where the opening small talk between hosts takes 15 minutes. I’m glad people get along, there’s nothing wrong with showing your on-air chemistry, but holy shitballs start the damn show already. And learn how to edit, to take out the irrelevant guest tangent. And most of all, stop assuming people have nothing else to do but listen to you.

Granted, everyone listens differently. And maybe I’m too old to understand the appeal of this or that host chatting with his/her co-host like you are the third person at the table, or maybe the small talk isn’t for me, but I still firmly believe Podcast Bloat is a thing, and I far prefer pods that can get in and out of my ears in either 30 or no more than 60 minutes.

All this by way of noting that two hours is a short Joe Rogan podcast. Two and a half seems to be standard, and some go far, far longer. Jordan Peterson, the Canadian weirdo, talks to Rogan for FOUR! HOURS! (And 13 minutes.) People used to say, “You can’t judge Rush Limbaugh by some single thing he said. You have to listen for a month, then decide if he’s an asshole bigot.” Sorry, pals, I ain’t got time to dedicate a month of the only life I have to divining the essence of Rush Limbaugh, and ditto Rogan. But I did cue up half a dozen of his pods this week, just to see how or if they grabbed me.

Readers? They did not.

Rogan is, as his fans say, undeniably curious on a wide variety of issues (concentrating on bro-y stuff like fitness, stand-up comedy, showbiz and the like), so I’ll give him that. Unfortunately, he employs the Larry King Tabula Rasa strategy of interviewing, which is to say, he doesn’t seem to really prepare for anything. People say stupid shit and it’s not challenged. Rogan says stupid shit and it’s even less challenged; one trainer advocated a particular move that goes directly against every rule about how to treat your knees, and while Rogan noted the contradiction, he didn’t ask the why question.

In other words, while Rogan has the foundation of being a decent journalist (curiosity), he lacks the discipline to know how to craft it in service of others. Not that he won’t chime in when he feels like it. When one guest mentioned omicron, he said, “Oh, yeah, the cold.” And in the exchange that followed, he insisted omicron was no more serious than that, and the only people dying of it were basically fucked to begin with anyway, so. The “no big loss” was left unspoken, but hung in the air.

I guess it’s easy to talk to someone for two hours, especially if you’re on drugs – Rogan is said to be a big fan of those – but far harder to do it responsibly. There’s a clip of Rogan talking to a Holocaust denier that will curl your hair. He just sits there and nods.

So. Other big news of the moment: The Canadian Truckers 4 Freedumb have landed close to home. The privately owned Ambassador Bridge has been closed most of the day, with most of the action on the Canadian side. I was down there today for lunch and didn’t see much – a few trucks pulled over on the freeway with a state police officer talking to one, that sort of thing. But it’s big news, I guess. I’ll keep you posted if a shooting war breaks out.

Posted at 7:45 pm in Current events, Media |

64 responses to “Help wanted: Editors.”

  1. Jeff Gill said on February 8, 2022 at 7:56 pm

    Ah yes, “privately owned.” Of which there are many stories to be told.

    Hey, I made meat loaf tonight, because for pity’s sake. Needed some comfort food.

    I’ve gotten into listening to podcasts, though not Mr. Rogan’s jam for which I thank Nancy in saving me the trouble — they pass my four hour drive each way every weekend very nicely. So I shouldn’t join in complaining about five to fifteen minutes of yukking it up in aimless blather to “set the the tone” at the start of almost every podcast, but sheesh. I can’t skip around because I’m driving, so I always hear it, but it rarely adds a thing to the actual story or interview or material at hand. And yes, the “Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” series is what sucked me into Podcastlandia.

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  2. Suzanne said on February 8, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill sucked me in, too. It was informative but frustrating because it could never get past the thinking that Driscoll was a gifted preacher gone bad to thinking that maybe, just maybe he was always a bad player looking for a grift.
    I tried listening to one Joe Rogan podcast about a year ago and couldn’t do it. He interviewed some escapee from N Korea but after about 30 minutes, I gave up. Rogan absolutely rubbed me the wrong way.
    Gaslit Nation is a good podcast but very frightening as it delves into the effort to spew misinformation in the USA to help a whole lotta people line their pockets. We are dealing with a multi-national crime syndicate as the hosts remind us often.

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  3. Deborah said on February 8, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    Never heard of Rogan before this brouhaha and have no desire whatsoever to check him out. Podcasts I listen to occasionally are: Cafe with Preet Brahara, Why is this Happening with Chris Hayes, Then and Now with Heather Cox Richardson and her cohost (her name I can never remember, Joanne something I think), Deep State Radio and a few others that I can’t think of the name of right now. I like to listen when I’m working on a project or doing some mindless cleaning. I’m not a loyal listener, I tune in when I happen to hear something interesting might be on. I also don’t like the opening tête-à-tête of some of them, just get on with the meat. I like listening to archived Fresh Air with Terry Gross or This American Life too.

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  4. candlepick said on February 9, 2022 at 12:34 am

    With most podcasts, I can’t stop screaming back at them, “Summarize.”

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  5. Sherri said on February 9, 2022 at 12:41 am

    I listen to a number of podcasts, but I tend to prefer ones that tell a particular story to the ones that air weekly. The latest podcast from Serial, The Trojan Horse Affair, falls into that category, and I binged the whole thing last week. Fascinating, about a likely hoax letter in Birmingham, England that nonetheless led to a major freak out about Muslims taking over schools.

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  6. Sherri said on February 9, 2022 at 3:23 am

    NPR is breaking Mazda car infotainment systems in the Seattle area!

    I’ve been trying to figure this one out, because it made no sense. Closest I can come is that KUOW, or more probably the company that handles their HD Radio feed, sent out some bad metadata. Mazda infotainment systems have had problems in the past with metadata issues – Roman Mars discovered this a few years ago with 99% Invisible. The Mazda infotainment system would try to parse the % in the podcast title as a special character rather than part of the name, try to perform the %I command, and crash.

    The system crashes here, but gets stuck in a reboot loop, and keeps crashing and rebooting. You can listen to KUOW, but can’t change the station, use Bluetooth, navigation systems, or the backup camera.

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  7. Dexter Friend said on February 9, 2022 at 3:43 am

    I listen to XM Radio, 3 hours for “Bennington”, XM 103 daily, and an unaccounted-for length of time on music channels. Little Steven’s Underground Garage has been around since before sat-radio and it’s great, as the DJs tell us about the musicians, a bit about the band members, stuff like we used to hear on “FM head radio” years back.
    Podcasts take too damn much time. I only listen to one, the “WTF Podcast”, the Marc Maron podcast, but not religiously. Joe Rogan started as a stand-up in Boston 34 years ago, and worked for Mitzi Shore as a regular at The Comedy Store in Los Angeles in the 90s. Since I listen to sat-radio comedy channels, I knew of Rogan going way back, though I never was a fan. He has said he is of the mold of Sam Kinison, Pryor, Bill Hicks, and Lenny Bruce, some real hard-hitters of comedy stardom.

    The Ambassador Bridge closure made the NBC Evening News, one of the few news stories to crash the Olympics party. There are many news stories that need attention, but about 85% of The Evening News is about skiing and skating. NBC has dedicated channels for that stuff, but they figure they will serve the cable-cutters and ignore the big news about Kentucky’s Mitch McConnell breaking with the RNC on the “political discourse” of 1-6 stance.
    Oh, and the Ukraine/Russians/German pipeline tinderbox was ignored for stories of people crashing on icy slopes in China.

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  8. David C said on February 9, 2022 at 6:14 am

    It sure looks like the Rs know the shit’s about to hit the fan. McConnell and Graham saying 1/6 wasn’t political discourse. Boebert saying she’s just like her lord and savior Jesus H. Christ. They’re going down hard.

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  9. alex said on February 9, 2022 at 6:41 am

    Dahlia Lithwick did an excellent interview with Canadian journalist and author Stephen Marche the other day and he deflates the American media’s portrayal of the Canadian protests as a grassroots populist revolution. It’s being funded mostly by U.S. sources and doesn’t have any popular support in Canada, where 88 percent are vaccinated and a similarly large share of the public disapproves of the whole charade.

    Here’s a link, though it’s probably paywalled if you’ve read your share of articles on Slate:

    After reading that, I’m both alarmed and disappointed by the failure of mainstream U.S. news outlets to contextualize the whole shit show.

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  10. Joe Kobiela said on February 9, 2022 at 9:04 am

    Joe Rogen was also on the comedy news radio, a very funny show.
    Pilot Joe

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  11. Mark P said on February 9, 2022 at 9:16 am

    The US network news does an objectively poor job of giving a useful summary of national and international events that Americans should be aware of. Oh, I’m sorry, let me summarize: they’re crap. NBC seems to be worse than ABC. We watch them in sequence, and there are times I have thought that Les Nessman I mean Lester Holt had missed a significant story in favor of some really cool video of a car crash in Poland (or some such). I guess they have decided that Americans prefer Hostess cakes to prime rib.

    And don’t get me started on their political coverage. No, really, don’t get me started.

    On a lighter note, I thought the Obama-The Boss podcast might be interesting. I couldn’t get past the bro shit, so I watched NBC Nightly News instead. Gimme some of them Ding Dongs.

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  12. basset said on February 9, 2022 at 9:24 am

    A different Olympic story:

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  13. ROGirl said on February 9, 2022 at 9:25 am

    They’re just trying to preserve their own power and get out of the way of the poop that trump continues to fling.

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  14. Jeff Borden said on February 9, 2022 at 10:09 am

    It’s pretty clear angry right-wingers are everywhere with similar truck protests in Australia and New Zealand. And we’ve witnessed clashes with police over vaccine mandates and masks in many of the Western European nations. The lack of empathy, the embrace of the stupid gesture, the elimination of any sense of community mindedness appear to be universal.

    I recently read Andy Weir’s novel, “Project Hail Mary,” which is similar to his “The Martian” in its focus on a smart-alecky but brave and brilliant scientist out in the galaxy. Though the book is enjoyable, its premise is unbelievable: All the nations of the world unite to face a planet-killing threat. As if that would ever happen. . .

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  15. jcburns said on February 9, 2022 at 10:33 am

    Sherri, the Seattle Times reporter Erik Lacitis’s article, pointlessly filled with “Hal 9000” crap and, generally, very poorly written, does finally get around to the key part of the problem.

    It’s not metadata exactly, but a file or files that had no file extension (so “IMG_5000” instead of “IMG_5000.jpg”). What’s interesting to me is: could the car system EXECUTE code that could have been hidden in the files under these circumstances?

    That would be very bad, even if it’s only the “Connectivity Master Unit” that is affected. Describing the unit as “fried” doesn’t really examine what’s wrong, and then referring to the computer from 2001 really muddies the waters. All of which to say: this Erik guy is an idiot, and should not be writing these kinds of articles if that’s his approach.

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  16. Julie Robinson said on February 9, 2022 at 10:34 am

    Podcasts and I never hit it off, for whatever reason. I much prefer audiobooks; to each his own, right?

    Aside from that I’m feeling sad at the death of yet another old friend, and from Covid. I had heard she got into alternative beliefs and fear she wasn’t vaccinated. There is, of course, a GoFundMe, the proceeds of which will go towards her daughter’s education and “other causes about which she cared”. Hmm.

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  17. Joe Kobiela said on February 9, 2022 at 11:11 am

    Sad story there Bassett, but it sounds more like a mental problem.
    Pilot Joe

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  18. basset said on February 9, 2022 at 11:18 am

    Doesn’t make it any less pitiful, though.

    Podcasts… have recently gotten into the BBC’s “Desert Island Discs,” where they ask someone what eight records they would take to a desert island, plus one book and one luxury item. Rick Wakeman and Alice Cooper were particularly interesting, many of em come from outside music as well.

    Those and “Cocaine & Rhinestones,” which I’ve mentioned here before, are about it for me.

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  19. Joe Kobiela said on February 9, 2022 at 11:34 am

    Pilot Joe

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  20. ROGirl said on February 9, 2022 at 11:37 am

    Marc Maron’s podcast helped get me through the 2020 lockdown. His interviews and conversations are pretty good, I still dip into them and listen at work.

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  21. Icarus said on February 9, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    By choosing no-rush shipping, I’ve accrued some Amazon credits good for digital purchases. I was trying to decide between Peaceful Warrior and The Martian . I did a quick search and found that Peaceful Warrior is now on Tubi for free so I can use my $4 to rent The Martian.

    It annoys me to have to pay to rent movies from that long ago but obviously the business model of The Powers That Be dictate that people will still pay for these.

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  22. Jeff Borden said on February 9, 2022 at 1:26 pm

    “The Martian” is worth every penny of the fee. And the novel is better than the movie. I read it after the film and still enjoyed the hell out of it.

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  23. Julie Robinson said on February 9, 2022 at 1:37 pm

    Your local library probably has The Martian available for free. Lots of other good materials too.

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  24. LAMary said on February 9, 2022 at 3:30 pm

    When Kevin (not the guy in the Body Snatchers movie) McCarthy starts saying the insurrection was an insurrection, I’ll believe things are changing.

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  25. Colleen said on February 9, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    I listen to podcasts most days while I work. #sisters in law is good, and I enjoy Mary Trump’s podcast. Also a fan of true crime. But yeah….some folks need to edit the banter.

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  26. Jeff Borden said on February 9, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    Kevin McCarthy is beyond useless, LA Mary. As blue as California is, in general, it produces some extremely toxic assholes: McCarthy, Nunes, Rohrabacher, Issa. That’s a Murderer’s Row of jerks right there.

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  27. Suzanne said on February 9, 2022 at 5:00 pm

    This is on track, I think. Depressing, too.

    Sexton grew up in Indiana.

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  28. LAMary said on February 9, 2022 at 6:25 pm

    I agree, Jeff but there have been a few moderate Republicans that were ok.Richard Riordan, former mayor of LA was alright and the mayor of San Diego who ran in that weird Newsom recall election was not all bad. I can deal with differences in politics. I can’t deal with assholes like Rohrabacher and the rest of the jerks on your list.

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  29. Jeff Borden said on February 9, 2022 at 6:36 pm

    And therein lies the problem, LA Mary. I cannot vote for ANY Republican candidates until the party demonstrates to me it’s no longer afflicted with prion disease. We have one-party rule in Illinois –all Dems– and that is far from ideal. Yet the GOP alternatives are hand-picked by the richest man in Illinois and/or are firmly supportive of the bloated orange tumor. I’ll vote for corruption over treason every time.

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  30. Dexter Friend said on February 9, 2022 at 7:03 pm

    9 squirrels captured, 4 of them had been using my attic for shelter. I hired Absolute Animal Control from near here in NW Ohio. Best $838 I ever spent.
    Some are saying I should have bought or borrowed traps and done this all myself, but the facts are that I have been trying to rid this place of invaders by my own volition for several years, and they always came back after a short while. I decided I needed an expert in here.
    It took three weeks to trap the rodents, and get them all. The man also found the weak entry spots in this 101 year-old house and sealed them up, and no squirrels have made it back inside for 3 weeks now.

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  31. basset said on February 9, 2022 at 7:27 pm

    Did you fry em or bake em?

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  32. Deborah said on February 9, 2022 at 8:50 pm

    All day I’ve been reading a series of entries called Story of Us on a website Wait But Why, I got started on it because Heather Cox Richardson linked to something on Twitter by Tim Urban. It’s long, many chapters, it’s taken me the greater part of the day to read it and I’m still not done. It contains simple (actually crude) drawings that help explain the thoughts. It’s mostly stuff I already knew to some degree but it’s done in such a clear and easy to ready way that clarifies a lot. It seems like it would give people a way to talk to Maga folks about how things really work, but then again maybe not. Here’s a link I’ve warned you, it’s long but I’ve found it quite interesting, I had the time to devote to it today between chores.

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  33. beb said on February 9, 2022 at 11:13 pm

    I have never listened to a podcast and doubt that I ever will. There is too much ADD in my blood.

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  34. Dexter Friend said on February 10, 2022 at 2:23 am

    basset, the rodent control expert told me not worry my pretty little head off about what happens to his catch, as they go “to the squirrel farm way, way up north.”

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  35. Alan Stamm said on February 10, 2022 at 7:53 am

    So now Rogan mocks listeners gullible enough to think his medical opinions are valid:

    I talk shit for a living — that’s why this is so baffling to me. If you’re taking vaccine advice from me, is that really my fault? What dumb shit were you about to do when my stupid idea sounded better? … If you want my advice, don’t take my advice.At Big Laugh Comedy club in Austin on Tuesday night (Feb. 8)

    Reaction from Poynter senior media writer Tom Jones:
    If Rogan thought he was being funny, he wasn’t. And while it’s true that no one should be taking medical advice from someone who is not a doctor and clearly misinformed about Covid-19, this is also true: Rogan must realize he is incredibly influential among his devoted listeners. Thus, he has a responsibility to make sure that what is said on his podcast — by him and guests — is not harmful and dangerous.

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  36. ROGirl said on February 10, 2022 at 7:58 am

    I need a good rodent control expert. The mice are really bad this year.

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  37. alex said on February 10, 2022 at 7:59 am

    She Who literally put a target on Gabby Giffords’ head in her campaign materials. Now she’s suing the NYT for suggesting that this might have had something to do with the shooting of Gabby Giffords.

    Honestly, I think Giffords would have a better case against Palin if Giffords were to sue Palin than Palin has against the Times, but to read the coverage of the trial it sounds like Palin’s years of practice on the public stage are making her come across much better in front of the jury than the offending columnist who is understandably nervous. Palin’s attorneys apparently have put the Times on the defensive and they’ve thrown the columnist under the bus.

    If She Who prevails, it would be a bad precedent for press freedom while giving license to political speech that endorses assassination. Truly fucked up.

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  38. alex said on February 10, 2022 at 8:02 am

    And to add to what Alan says at #35 above, Rogan is pulling the same defense that Fox uses in court whenever it gets sued for libel: No one would be stupid enough to believe anything it presents as fact.

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  39. FChief said on February 10, 2022 at 9:09 am

    If there ever was any question that “white privilege” is an actual thing these truck nutz are living proof. Picture, if you will, a bunch of Black drivers blockading the downtown business district of City X without immediately picturing the tear gas, riot batons, beanbag rounds, and the mass arrests as the local constabulary drag the battered bodies away while the heavy tow company hooks up the semitrailers for a trip to the impound lot.

    Who would put up with this nitwittery if the reality wasn’t that the mere notion of applying some law to these gomers is outside the boundary?

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  40. Mark P said on February 10, 2022 at 9:13 am

    This is way too rich not to share. Marjorie Taylor Greene was speaking to the public about how terrible Nancy Pelosi is. She said “Nancy Pelosi’s gazpacho police” are spying on members of Congress. Just like Hitler’s Gazpacho, I guess, although I didn’t realize that he did much cooking. She concluded by saying that this government has turned into something it was never meant to be. Food police for Spanish cooking? Damn! What comes next? Will they watch you with drones as you boil hot dogs? It’s a slippery slope, I tell you.

    See Language Log for the clip.

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  41. nancy said on February 10, 2022 at 9:14 am

    What you say is true, FD Chief, but keep in mind these protests are almost all in Canada. They have a different way of doing things up there. Once I was listening to a Windsor radio station around the holidays, and the local police had just released their use-of-force report for the year. They count stuff like use of a nightstick as force. I’m sure Detroit police would get a chuckle out of that.

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  42. susan said on February 10, 2022 at 11:57 am

    MarkP @40— She almost referred to “the New York City goulash.”

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  43. Jeff Borden said on February 10, 2022 at 12:06 pm

    MGT has finally served a purpose with her gazpacho malaprop. My public speaking students this morning decided they would give no credence to any public figure who mistook a cold soup for Nazi secret police. It fit perfectly with our lesson on the fragility of our credibility.

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  44. Sherri said on February 10, 2022 at 12:19 pm

    This gazpacho police is all because we didn’t get the taco trucks on every corner, isn’t it.

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  45. Suzanne said on February 10, 2022 at 12:23 pm

    This article is quite thought provoking although I don’t agree with everything. It veers to the bothside-ism.

    “At the same time, everyone with a brain can see the same basic fact: If Americans do not come together to preserve the basic foundations of democracy, they will not survive. Intellectuals may never have mattered less in American life but American politics has never been more in need of robust ideas. The old ways of doing things obviously don’t work. New ideas, of the most radical nature, are necessary.”

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  46. Heather said on February 10, 2022 at 12:26 pm

    I read a Twitter thread suggesting the gazpacho lady and her ilk say stupid shit on purpose just to rile up the libruls. But I think she, at least, really is that stupid, so it’s hard to tell.

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  47. Mark P said on February 10, 2022 at 12:39 pm

    There are two times malaprops like MTG’s happen. In one, a speaker substitutes a similar-sounding word, but the speaker knows the difference. The second type is pure ignorance; the speaker doesn’t know the difference. I’m going with type 2 in MTG’s case. I think she has heard the word “Gestapo” and the word “gazpacho” and honestly doesn’t know the difference.

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  48. Deborah said on February 10, 2022 at 1:04 pm

    I worked with a guy who very often used the wrong similar sounding word. I looked into it because I thought it was strange and apparently there is a learning disability (or whatever they call it now) where people do that and it’s not uncommon. Gazpacho vs gestapo fits right in to that. The difference with MT Green doing it is that she says all kinds of ridiculous things all the time, like saying wild fires are cause by Jewish space lasers etc. She’s a moron, who needs to be mocked and made fun of because she’s also dangerous.

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  49. Jeff Borden said on February 10, 2022 at 1:32 pm

    A cardinal rule in all public speaking is to be sure of pronunciation and meaning. My advice to students who struggle with a word is to find a synonym and just drop it. Had MTG simply said Nancy Pelosi had her own secret police, it would have still been an enormous lie told by a liar of great repute, but it wouldn’t have become comedy gold.

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  50. Jim said on February 10, 2022 at 2:29 pm

    Agree with Jeff @49 completely! I’m giving the win to Jose Andres, though there could easily be other choices.

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  51. ROGirl said on February 10, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    She’s auditioning to become the new soup nazi.

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  52. LAMary said on February 10, 2022 at 3:40 pm

    MTG’s western counterpart, Ms Boebert, said that the founding fathers would never approve of changes to the constitution. It stands as they wrote it, she says. This was related to a question about the second amendment. Clearly she does not know what “amendment” means.

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  53. Suzanne said on February 10, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    Deborah, I work with someone like you mentioned @48. She calls Alzheimer’s disease Altimers, says Alti instead of Aldi for the grocery chain, and I can’t even write a close approximation to the way she says the dog breed Rottweiler.
    It happens all the time, she isn’t stupid and she seems completely unembarrassed by it, so she must not even notice what she is saying.

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  54. FDChief said on February 10, 2022 at 4:46 pm

    (Re: Nancy’s “They do things different in Canada)…I suspect the Mohawk would have a word (Google something called the “Oka Crisis” of 1990) and in general the RCMP and other Canadian LEOs have not been shy about using force on First Nations protests over pipelines and similar land use issues.

    And it’s worth noting that the large Sikh trucking community wants nothing to do with these clucks, while noting that all this “outrage” at having to wear cloth on their faces or get an inoculation seems to vanish when the issue of wage theft – which seems to be as endemic in Canadian trucking as it is here – comes up. The Sikhs suggest that these nitwits are shouting (and honking) at the wrong buildings…

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  55. Deborah said on February 10, 2022 at 5:40 pm

    FDChief, I had no idea there was a Sikh trucking community. In Santa Fe I see lots of Sikhs shopping at Trader Joes and Whole Foods, I’m always kind of in awe of them. I went to a party once here where there were lots in attendance, kids and adults and found them delightful. No one drank alcohol, the party host wasn’t Sikh but had lots of Sikh friends. The kids wear the turbans unselfconsciously and I find that so refreshing.

    I spent a lot of time outside this afternoon cleaning up the yard, high was 50. Tomorrows high will be 52. Maybe snow next Thursday but only a 40% chance.

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  56. Jeff Borden said on February 10, 2022 at 6:04 pm

    Those who learn a lot about the world through reading often mispronounce words because they’ve never heard them used in conversation. When I was a kid, I stumbled across the word debris in a book I was reading, which I pronounced as DEB-RIZ. My dad corrected me and put me on the road to the proper pronunciation.

    The fascist from Georgia doesn’t get that dispensation. She’s flat out stoopid.

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  57. nancy said on February 10, 2022 at 6:16 pm

    FDC is right about the RCMP and POC (sorry if that’s too many capital letters in one phrase), but as far as I know, this is still an issue the Windsor police are largely handling, at least as far as I know. Or AFAIK, as they say on the internet. We’ll see what happens now. It can’t go on much longer.

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  58. alex said on February 10, 2022 at 7:07 pm

    The Soup Nazi. I like that as MTG’s new moniker.

    Here in Hoosiertucky I hear ridiculous hicks dropping malapropisms all the time. I just assume it’s part of their speech ways and it doesn’t even elicit amusement anymore, but I can remember when I used to try to stifle smiles like Anthony Fauci did when Donald Trump was talking out of his ass.

    Today’s news had me guffawing out loud, and so did the snickering comments about MTG landing in the soup with her word salad, and on and on and on.

    Father James Martin, in one of Nancy’s recent posts, says schadenfreude is bad for the soul. But how can it be, when laughter is the best medicine?

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  59. Icarus said on February 10, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    What is the difference between MTG and AOC?

    No one in DC is paying sex workers to cosplay as MTG.

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  60. basset said on February 10, 2022 at 11:36 pm

    A story about the growing number of Sikh truckers in the USA:

    We see it here in Nashville, there’s a truckers’ restaurant in a former log-cabin BBQ place across the street from a truck stop out on the edge of town. Food’s good too, eaten there several times.

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  61. Sherri said on February 11, 2022 at 12:42 am

    I’m looking at the NYTimes website, searching for the nonstop high-profile coverage of the destruction of documents and the mishandling of classified documents by a president, from the newspaper that brought us endless coverage of a former secretary of state’s emails. Funny, I’m usually really good at finding things on websites, but I’m struggling here.

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  62. alex said on February 11, 2022 at 7:25 am

    Trump’s bizarre crusade to ban low-flow toilets in 2019 finally makes perfect sense, along with his claim that it takes ten to fifteen flushes to make them work.

    Even though we thought he was just being hyperbolic, it looked as if perhaps he really wanted to do something for the American people. Nope, once again it was all about him.

    After the gazpacho gaffe, that was the second funniest story of the day.

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  63. Mark P said on February 11, 2022 at 8:58 am

    Sherri — So much for the liberal news media. What a bunch of sniveling enablers

    And I have noticed that some of those brave, liberal soldiers in the war against fake news have actually started calling Trump’s lies lies, now that he’s out of office. So brave! So committed to truth, justice, and the American way!

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  64. Deborah said on February 11, 2022 at 10:29 am

    Maggie Haberman is getting a lot of criticism about her holding onto criminal acts by tfg (flushing docs) until her book is becoming available. This seems to be a pattern by some journalist/authors. Did it not get included in news at the time because it was kaboshed by her overlords at the NYTs? Or did she withhold it on purpose to beef up the juicyness of her upcoming book? I’m curious what the Journalist herewith think of this.

    And why in the world is tfg not getting indicted by the DOJ for all of these crimes (witness intimidation, obstruction of justice, stealing and harboring classified documents, insurrection planning and inciting etc etc etc)?

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