That word.

C*nt is a terrible word and I don’t use it lightly. (I only play the asterisk game because it’s the first word in this post, and some people are still pretty shocked by it, Larry David or no Larry David.) I only deploy it for women who actively work to hurt, shame, blame and otherwise denigrate other women, particularly those who don’t deserve it.

But I think it applies here.

(And yes, it also applies to the women, and men, who book guests like this on wastes of time like the Today show, and continue to give them publicity.)

Posted at 5:23 pm in Current events, Media |
 

57 responses to “That word.”

  1. Scout said on March 11, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Yep, she’s c*nt alright. Of the highest magnitude. Time for those nice pictures of “the noted moralist” posing nude to circulate again. Lest anyone forgets that she is also a h*pocrite.

  2. del said on March 11, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    I remember using that word once, publicly, directing it towards a coffee shop manager in downtown Chicago who refused to let me into the bathroom. It was very satisfying. And no, I didn’t soil myself (sorry Nancy).

    Dr. Laura. My in-laws like her. Common sense they say. The problem’s that she’s 100 yrs behind current knowledge on issues. And her Ph.D’s in something like physiology.

  3. Linda said on March 11, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    What I like especially is that if her hubby cheated on her, his “butt would be standing there by himself.” Because, of course, she is the perfect wife and doesn’t deserve to be cheated on. But she assumes Mrs. Spitzer doesn’t measure up. (“What he did was wrong. What she did was wrong.”) What a moron. I bet she never met that woman, and she is judging her marriage by the fact that he chases whores. The c word was invented with Dr. Laura in mind.

  4. Skip Cunningham said on March 11, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    Ok, so, here’s the thing. While Dr. Laura is crazy, she often delivers a nugget of truth. I’ve been married, and I know what it’s like to do everything for a woman who doesn’t appreciate any of it. (In fact, I have learned over the last year or two, post-divorce) that many women want men to tell them no, and they don’t respect men who do.

    I’m sure that Elliot has a huge ego and all, but I also know the toll that a long marriage can take if it sucks. That he stepped out is not a shock. I mean, all the hookers in the world are servicing someone, and it’s probably not only fat, single guys who can’t get dates.

  5. ashley said on March 11, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Dr. Laura obviously likes to please her men, especially if they have cameras. Especially if they have cameras but not weed whackers. Really, really, really NSFW, nauseating, and disgusting.

    So, since pleasing Laura’s man involved getting naked for the camera, it’s all OK that these are all over the internets. I guess if Dr. Laura’s man wanted to give her a big ol’ Cleveland Steamer, then that would be OK as well.

    Thanks for the clarification, Dr. Laura!

  6. basset said on March 11, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I’m with Skip at least partway on this. No telling why Spitzer may have done what he allegedly did, and I wish I knew what made it worth $5000 an encounter, but if a wife doesn’t make an effort, a husband’s gonna be more easily tempted. Not that she has to be the Stepford Happy Hooker like Dr. Laura seems to be recommending… she oughta act interested at least once in awhile, though.

  7. Cathy D. said on March 11, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Makes me embarrassed to be of a similar gender. To Dr. Laura, I mean.

  8. Harl Delos said on March 11, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    I have mixed feelings on that word. Remember Robin Williams on “Inside the Actor’s Studio”? He said his least favorite word was cunt, because it was so harsh, and his favorite word was pussy, because it seemed so warm and inviting?

    Yet, that’s what Dr. Laura is.

    My old college roommate used to say, well, you could always put a flag over a woman’s ugly face, and do it for god and country, but this sorta ugly goes clean to the bone.

    And while we’re on the subject of women who are cunts, let us note that *today* is the day when Hillary Clinton lost her bid to get the Democratic nomination. No, I’m not calling Hillary a cunt, but Geraldine Ferraro is.

    They’ve been playing around, the Clinton campaign, trying to remind folks that their competition is a n*****, and don’t forget that the n*****s are going to take our jobs and impregnate our women, and drink up all the liquor, smoke all the speed, and shoot up all the marijuana. And they’ve been skirting the line pretty careful. Bill crossed the line in the Carolinas, with that thing about Jesse Jackson winning primaries, but it’s kinda hard to demand that Hillary divorce him over that. Geraldine Ferraro has no such immunity – and when she says that he’s *lucky* to be what he is, because no white man, and no woman of any race would get the free pass that he’s getting, that’s not skirting the racism line, that’s going 20 miles past the DMZ.

    What’s going to happen if Hillary feeds Ferraro to the wolves? She loses a BIG chunk of her pro-feminist support. Ferraro is an *icon* of the feminist movement.

    What happens if she doesn’t? She’s going to be picketed at every event she has, starting tomorrow, by people demanding that she denounce such racism.

    She might as well shut the campaign down now. Stick a fork in her; she’s finished.

  9. julia said on March 11, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    So, there you go. Dr. Laura’s base. Skip, basset, and women who think it can never happen to them (amusingly, it did happen to Dr. Laura – the guy who sold the pink shots dumped her, not the other way around).

    She has a son who hates her, and who she hates, and a mother who rotted for weeks before anyone found her, which Dr. Laura shared filially with the world is what she deserved for being a bad person. Her husband stays at home and takes care of the house for her because she’s too busy.

    She recently dumped judaism after building a career on beating the world with the stick of her newfound orthodoxy because not enough jews watched her homophobic tv show.

    Yeah, this is a woman with a deep understanding of other women – or at least of the men who resent them and the women who don’t like them much either.

  10. Jeff said on March 11, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Oh, please. Nothing wearies me like “Well, y’know, it takes two” when there’s a marriage problem. Let me go all Dr. Phil on y’all — i’ve counseled roughly one bazillion couples going through problems, and the majority of times it’s because of a) outright, easily diagnosable mental illness or addiction on the part of one, not the other, who doesn’t know what to do, or b) terminal selfishness erupting with one party, which the other party does not always respond to with calm understanding. The fabricated rationale “mid-life crisis” once was exclusively a male failing, but we’ve grown to where women choose that excuse, too.

    Yes, occasionally a spouse is driven to desperate measures by the vapid indifference of their one time heart’s desire, accompanied by dangerous weight gain (but for that, see a) above), and sometimes a general aridity in married life feels like a good excuse faster to one than the other for b). But the vast, vast majority of times we’re talking about someone who just figures out they can have their cake and eat it too for a while, and they dive in like little piggies, and get all indignant when someone comes along to close down the all-you-can-eat dessert bar.

    Midlife crises, “It takes two,” and Laura (Dr.) Schlessinger should all get thrown in the same three week un-emptied dumpster. Most marriages are unilaterally ended, which isn’t the same as saying everyone worked equally hard to fix it when the cracks appeared, but generally one person went to the trash can as their solution first and fastest.

  11. alex said on March 11, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    God, what an ugly cunt. And the rest of her’s no prize either. Ick.

    I think what goes on in marriages is really nobody’s business. I have no doubt that there are wives who are glad that their men don’t demand certain things of them, and Hillary is very likely one of them. Can you blame her if she’s not into riding cigars and polishing knobs? Or Silda if she finds it undignified to crap on a glass coffee table?

    Dr. Laura probably won’t be invited back on any MSM anytime soon and is probably on her way out of AM and cable with a lot of other right-wing talkers. So passé.

  12. nancy said on March 11, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    I never should have mentioned coprophilia. Suddenly we have the governor of New York as a fan of glass coffee-table games. Alex! Bad boy!

    Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I hope the Pope isn’t offended.

  13. Skip Cunningham said on March 11, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    Um, Julia, I resent being called part of Dr. Laura’s base. In fact, I allowed as how she is crazy.

    My point is that no one acts in a vacuum.

  14. julia said on March 11, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Well, you know, it’s kind of a mild thing to infer about someone you don’t know, compared to, say, calling them cold and unrewarding and a bad partner and suggesting that they deserve the failure of their marriage since their marriage failed.

    And at that, I know more at this point about your marriage than you know about the Spitzers’.

    I didn’t say you shared Dr. Laura’s sick view of women. You did.

  15. Harl Delos said on March 11, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    it’s probably not only fat, single guys who can’t get dates.

    Hate to surprise you, Skip, but it’s no problem for fat guys to get dates.

    After my first wife died, I moved to Columbus, and found myself dating 30 different women the first 30 days, and not because I looked like George Clooney. It’s more like Luciano Pavarotti, or John Candy.

    No problem to get laid, either. More often than not, they make the first move.

    Now, I admit I cheated a little. I smelled of soap, freshly applied. That’s important. I can both talk and listen. I showed the woman some respect; there are darned few women who don’t have *something* particularly appealing. I apparently seem like the kind of guy who doesn’t kiss and tell. I had a job; most women told me it was important that the guy was *trying*, even if all they had was a minimum wage job.

    Women get lonely, just the same as guys do. Women get horny, just the same as guys do. And women are told that if they’re over 30, if they have kids, if they’ve previously been married, that no man will ever be interested in them again.

    And about 75% of the women invited me into their bed. They made the first move. If they didn’t, I was gentlemanly enough to make an advance, and gentlemanly enough to allow them to easily deflect it, if they so wanted.

    There are *lots* of wonderful women out there, and any guy that can’t get laid regularly is either married or an idiot.

    Guys go to prostitutes because their wives won’t do the things they want to do, or because they don’t want to think their wives would be willing to do those things. The bulk of an average prostitute’s business is blow jobs, not because they’re cheaper than screwing, but because that’s what guys want. I’m not sure why most older women won’t do that; according to the stats, teenaged girls seem to think it’s no big deal.

    But if a guy has unusual interests, the likelihood of his wife having the corresponding interests is pretty low. So if she sends him to a prostitute for that, he’s happy in his marriage, she’s happy in her marriage, and the prostitute makes a nice living. If a guy loves to play Euchre, and his wife doesn’t like card games, does anyone look down their nose at her if he goes off and finds another partner to play cards with?

    Alan Dershowitz, who taught Eliot Spitzer at Harvard Law School, said, “Big deal. Married man goes to prostitute. In Europe, this wouldn’t even make the back pages of the newspaper.”

  16. Skip Cunningham said on March 11, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    Ok, a), Julia, do you mean infer or imply? I think you’re defensive for no reason. I don’t know you. I suspect you worry that you are cold and a bad partner. I have no opinion. But I do think my ex was. It’s ok–she thought the same of me.

    Harl, I’m with you. Didn’t mean to offend. I was playing into stereotypes.

  17. brian stouder said on March 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    funniest line in this thread –
    and any guy that can’t get laid regularly is either married or an idiot.

    And Ashley – you are THE MAN!! Links to the nekkid pictures!

    In the first one, I was immediately turned off by the piggy tails; nekkid women with their hair in piggy tails creep me out a little; plus, she seems to have an injury on her big toe

    And in the second one, I almost involuntarily averted my eyes – and then my attention was fixed on the roach motel under the nightstand! Do you suppose this is her bedroom? – or is this a roach motel within a roach motel?

  18. julia said on March 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    You’re sweet, but my marriage is doing just fine 🙂

  19. Harl Delos said on March 11, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    There was a former cop who used to have a bar, think it was at Broadway and Taylor. He had a recreational area upstairs from the bar until he was busted, oh, maybe it was in the late 1980s.

    I talked to him about a year before the bust. He complained that there wasn’t any demand any more for regular porn. People only wanted the kinky stuff.

    When they busted him, they found all sorts of things upstairs that most families wouldn’t have in the bedroom or the basement. There was a facimile of a jail cell, and stocks, and rings in the walls like a dungeon might have, cats-of-nine-tails, etc.

    He seemed to be straightforward and forthcoming; I didn’t get the feeling he was lying to me, and when they busted him, there was nothing in the coverage that indicated that he was anything but truthful.

    Also talked to Cliff Setzer in that era. He had three whorehouses that masqueraded as massage parlors. Setzer had a mind like a steel trap; he could rattle off details of something that happened years before, and he’d have it correct to the penny, but he was only truthful when it suited him, and that was damnably rare. He went to prison for hiring someone else to burn out a competitor, and I suspect he was framed for that; Setzer would never have hired someone to do something like that, because he’d have derived too much enjoyment from doing it himself. He was a mean S.O.B.

  20. ashley said on March 11, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Roach Motel + Dr. Laura = A good time had by all.

    You rule, brian.

    according to the stats, teenaged girls seem to think [blow jobs are] no big deal.

    Yeah, well, it’s the same with anal sex. Supposedly, in the back door doesn’t count, and she’ll still be a virgin. Same in predominantly Muslim countries.

    All I’m going to say is…well…things have changed a bit in 20 or so years.

  21. brian stouder said on March 11, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Cliff Setzer

    I remember that name, growing up. All I ever knew was – don’t mess with them.

    There’s still a Setzer car parts/salvage business on Anthony at Creighton. And wasn’t there a Setzer (brother?) who raced at Baer Field raceway?

  22. nancy said on March 11, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    You know you’re getting old when you pay more attention to the background details in dirty pictures than you do the subjects.

    I once spent about 10 minutes trying to puzzle out all the books and videotapes on the shelves in the background of an amateur nude shot. General themes: Financial self-help books and Disney videos. Must have been a married lady trying to find her inner hooker.

  23. ashley said on March 11, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Yeah, lots of get-rich-quick books in 70s porn. Or so I’ve heard.

  24. basset said on March 11, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    I’m a long way from being part of Dr. Laura’s base… my point was that both partners in a relationship should make an effort to understand and support the other. “Pleasing her man” is not a bad thing… just don’t think it’s the only factor that’ll keep him from straying.

  25. Linda said on March 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    I’m with Julia–nobody knows what is going on in the Spitzer’s marriage. She could have been the wicked witch of the west. Or it could have been HER who was doing everything to make HIM happy, and he just didn’t give a damn. Or he might have just decided he was the king of the universe and felt entitled. Nobody knows, not us or Dr. Laura. And nobody has a right to project their bad marriage onto people they don’t even know.

  26. Harl Delos said on March 11, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    There’s still a Setzer car parts/salvage business on Anthony at Creighton. And wasn’t there a Setzer (brother?) who raced at Baer Field raceway?

    Setzer sold used cars from a location on South Anthony. Both he and his son raced at Baer Field.

    Back in the ’80s, Cliff had a girlfriend who was young enough to be his daughter. She had worked at one of his massage parlors, I had gathered. Beautiful face, hot body, and highly intelligent, too. Between Cliff and her, I bet their IQs total somewhere north of 250 points.

    my point was that both partners in a relationship should make an effort to understand and support the other. “Pleasing her man” is not a bad thing… just don’t think it’s the only factor that’ll keep him from straying.

    I don’t think a good marriages is about sex. People can have sex without getting married, so you marry for other reasons. A marriage is a committed partnership (which may or may not involve raising kids.) It’s about having a flywheel to get you through tough times, someone to watch your back. Great sex won’t save a bad marriage, and lack of sex won’t doom a great marriage.

    There are a lot of people out there, both male and female, who are uncomfortable with their spouse’s sexual desires, and figure out solutions that Miss Grundy wouldn’t approve of. I figure it’s none of Miss Grundy’s business.

  27. ashley said on March 11, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Great sex won’t save a bad marriage, and lack of sex won’t doom a great marriage.

    I’m wif ya on the first part, but not on the second.

  28. Kafkaz said on March 11, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Styles in pubic coiffure might change, but some things never seem to change. Sex is perpetually interesting, and we hardly ever agree about it. The whole thing is a cosmic paradox, the “red thread” that is both blessing and curse, always raveling.

    Oh, and speaking of threads (tangled, frayed, or just plain old missing), I like this little bit from Marilyn Monroe, responding to a probing question about a photographic shoot for a calendar: “It’s not true that I had nothing on. I had the radio on.”

    The Tao of Monroe–something to strive for.

    .

  29. ashley said on March 11, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Taking kafkaz’s lead, I’m reminded of Marilyn also…Marilyn Chambers. So tell me, considering the lack of boobage among Spitzer’s “emperor club” girls, what the fuck was he paying for?

    I mean, for the rate of at least $1k and hour, they sure as hell better have boobies that will give me a black eye. At least.

  30. Harl Delos said on March 11, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    I’m wif ya on the first part, but not on the second.

    So you don’t believe in “in sickness and in health”? You would divorce a husband who became a quadriplegic?

  31. nancy said on March 11, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Harl, as a newcomer, you need to read the short course on Ashley.

  32. ashley said on March 11, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Harl, homes, yes, I would divorce a husband since I’m not a dick smoker like you. I’m a fucking tripod, you fuckmook.

  33. Kafkaz said on March 11, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    The mommy on the old Ivory Snow box? Wow, that *is* kinky.

  34. Dexter said on March 12, 2008 at 1:56 am

    a musical score for this thread, courtesy of Fred from Brooklyn, a troubled individual…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CPUt-kwrc

  35. Gasman said on March 12, 2008 at 2:20 am

    Dr. Laura is a C*nt? I could have told you that about 20 years ago!

  36. velvet goldmine said on March 12, 2008 at 7:42 am

    Dr. Laura’s son hates her? Is that documented? I haven’t listened to her in years, but I sure remember her holding up her strictness with him as the golden example….how he adored rather than resented her, etc.

    Fuckmook! Ha.

  37. Kevin Knuth said on March 12, 2008 at 7:54 am

    We are getting WAY to deep here. Bottom line- men cheat because they think with the little head and not the big one! (Oh, and add in a good dose of ego to the mix.)

    And every guy who tells HIS story always has a good excuse.

    However, if HIS wife cheats…….for some reason, that’s different.

  38. derwood said on March 12, 2008 at 7:55 am

    Fuckmook is my new favorite word. I would love to write it on my whiteboard outside my cube, but I would probably get fired.

    daron

  39. 4dbirds said on March 12, 2008 at 8:43 am

    Studies support that men do in fact leave sick partners at a much higher rate than women leave sick partners.

  40. Connie said on March 12, 2008 at 9:11 am

    4dbirds, a good friend had a stroke in her 40s. She told me that 90% of older women who have serious strokes are left by their husbands within two years. Her husband proved it soon after.

    As to the c*nt word. When I found out that those American Legion hats (the ones that fold flat) are colloquially known as c*nt caps, I was horrified. I was younger then.

    And I can tell you at least one unacceptable joke where the punch line is “c*nt sway low”.

    A friend of mine once told me “every marriage has its own dynamic, and who we are we to make assumptions from the outside.” I have to agree.

  41. Danny said on March 12, 2008 at 9:18 am

    Dang, I’m really late to the party here.

    Ashley, is it too late to say one more time that I wish you were the petite, good-looking blonde one?

  42. Harl Delos said on March 12, 2008 at 9:38 am

    Studies support that men do in fact leave sick partners at a much higher rate than women leave sick partners.

    Do you have a cite for that?

    My first wife spent 17 years dying of SLE, though, and I’ll not criticize anyone who isn’t up to the challenge. If you think about it, it’s a lot more difficult than being a single parent.

  43. Rob Daumeyer said on March 12, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Hey … first post!

    I have to say I sort of agree with that cunt … a tiny bit. I think some people cheat because they aren’t getting what they need at home. Was this Mrs. Spitzer’s fault? We’ll never know. But it’s possible she’s an closed-off, frigid ass.

    Here’s a true story that’s happening right now in my life: my best friend’s wife is about to leave him because she’s falling for a guy she met at the gym. He’s devastated. Weeping, not eating. But guess what? It’s his fault. He’s a crap husband and a crap father. He did what he wanted, wasn’t there emotionally for his wife, and she finally got sick of it. If he would have been a better partner, his wife wouldn’t have been out looking for love.

    I have Dr. Laura for many reasons, but I’m not dismissing these comments out of hand. It’s counterintuitive, but that’s part of why they invited her on “Today” in the first place.

  44. Rob Daumeyer said on March 12, 2008 at 9:48 am

    oops, I meant “I hate” Dr. Laura … I don’t have her, and never have had her.

  45. nancy said on March 12, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Rob, that’s what we call a Freudian slip.

    Also, you can edit comments for 30 minutes after you post. See “edit this” in the second line. And welcome.

  46. Sue said on March 12, 2008 at 10:20 am

    I didn’t even use the F word until I was in my forties. I hate the C word and can’t apply it to anyone. Therefore, I will really let loose right now and say that Dr. Laura is a horrible person and not a lady at all. Wow, that felt good. I believe that she got the exact response she deserved from the women on the Today show: incredulous silence. I think Skip’s and Bassett’s opinions on this are a little misplaced. Didn’t Nancy say a few weeks back that she would never speculate on what makes a marriage work? Sorry, folks, but sometimes “a little effort” is not what is required. Sometimes the expectations are so different that there is no bridge; sometimes best efforts are not enough; sometimes the compromises don’t work; sometimes religion interferes; and sometimes there’s just an ick factor for one spouse that’s not there for the other. Anyone assuming that the spouse did not do enough (or God forbid refused to even try) is being very unfair. If indeed the husband expected something out of the ordinary and didn’t get it, the question should not have been whether his wife was not understanding enough, but whether he went into the marriage with the wrong assumptions, thinking that he could eventually talk her into something. After all, how many people do you know (mostly women) who thought they could change their spouse’s mind about having children? Lots of divorces on that subject alone. Personally, I didn’t even know that Laura S was still around. Does her opinion even count anymore? I’d like to hear what Sue Johansen has to say about it.

  47. LAMary said on March 12, 2008 at 10:21 am

    As an ex-wife of a cheater, I will tell you, it’s not what he was missing at home. The ex just needed to see how many women he could score with. There are men like that. There are also men who get a thrill from screwing hookers even if they are completely happy at home. Consider Charlie Sheen. Good looking guy, famous, not lacking for free female companionship, but he ran up huge tabs with Heidi Fleiss’s establishment. It’s not the lack of legal good sex, it’s the buzz from paying a pro.

  48. Sue said on March 12, 2008 at 10:29 am

    I recall Mick Jaggers’ ex-wife saying in an interview something to the effect that she was surprised he strayed because she thought that if he had all the sex he wanted at home he wouldn’t need to go elsewhere. Laughed and laughed at that one.

  49. Linda said on March 12, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Harl Delos:
    Here’s some statistic, although there is some ambivalence to it, since it states that sometimes when the wife is sick, she initiates the divorce:
    http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/news/Jul2001/IllnessMarriageandDivorce.html

    Take that for what you will.

  50. Skip Cunningham said on March 12, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Dr. Laura is on AM radio here in Los Angeles every weekday from noon to three. She has no shortage of callers, but I suspect most of them like being chastised and embarrased over the airwaves.

    I sometimes listen to her for the same reason I find it hard not to stare at car wrecks. Her basic premise is that if women are nice to man (which boils down to sex and a sandwich), the men will do anything for their wives.

    This is the same woman who earlier this week told a guy he should have his 6-year-old daughter’s 10-year-old cousin thrown in jail because the 10-year-old might be a molester.

  51. Harl Delos said on March 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    I recall Mick Jaggers’ ex-wife saying in an interview something to the effect that she was surprised he strayed because she thought that if he had all the sex he wanted at home he wouldn’t need to go elsewhere. Laughed and laughed at that one.

    Didn’t she catch him in bed with David Bowie? It’d be hard for her to give him *that*.

    Sex between people who love each other, or between people who are married to each other, ought to be fulfilling to both. If one wants to have sex at the top of a ladder, and the other is scared to death of heights, it’s not someone’s “fault”, it’s just a fundamental incompatibility.

    Hey, Linda, thanks for that article. It surprises me that the overall divorce rate is lower when one of the couple has a serious illness, but I suppose it shouldn’t. People often get married because they need each other, and if the need is greater, the marriage is stronger.

    My mother always argued that the big reason why the divorce rate climbed dramatically from 1930 to 1980 was because people could *afford* to divorce; earlier, she was forced to stay in a bad marriage. I never bought that argument, although I see the merits. I’m not sure outsiders know a bad marriage when they see one. I know of an awful lot of “bad” marriages, from my point of view, that stay together, and we all know of storybook couples getting divorced for no reason anyone else can figure out.

    Again, Linda, thanks.

    Her basic premise is that if women are nice to man (which boils down to sex and a sandwich), the men will do anything for their wives.

    Hate to admit it, but there’s a lot of guys who would agree with that. Add a cold beer, and keeping quiet while he’s watching the big game on television, and there would be even more.

    It works as long as he doesn’t realize what he’s missing, and she doesn’t realize what she’s worth. If either one of them ever learns what a good marriage is like, it’s doomed.

  52. ashley said on March 12, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Come on Harl, buddy. Admit you don’t have a clue what a lot of guys would say about anything, not being one yourself.

  53. Wally Wilson said on March 12, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    I thought that Dogtour Laura died years ago. I mean, she fell so far off the radar, so hard and so fast that it knocked all memories of her existence from my existence. And, my existence is the only _real_ existence. 🙂

  54. michaelj said on March 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    The C word is , and there is only one, in england, and I’m american so you can take this howevever . Christoher Hitchens is a cunt In England I believe this is a guy with no vonceivable excuse. And I think thats why you would use that * Nancy. Way into. If you want neurashenic , post, drip asshole. look no further.

    You claim to Bob Seger. I wasn’t born lonely. Wasn’t born down by the riverside. I saw Bob Seger when he played guitar. In those days, Bob Seger ripped. If you knew anything about this, there was SRC and there was MC5. If you dont get that you have no clue. Good luck , I hope I just.evaporate/

  55. michaelj said on March 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Is it possible Christopher Hitchens isn’ a cunt? No, h’s a cunt no matter how you look at it. He kind of defines this expletibe.

  56. MaryC said on March 12, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    So — if the wife sleeps around, it’s the husband’s fault?

    Why didn’t anyone say that to Dr. Laura? Because they already knew what her answer would be?

  57. andante said on March 13, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Yes, I know it’s a dead thread. I just wanted to ask the vacuum a question.

    Why didn’t any of the, “reporters,” bother to research the history of the interviewee by searching the internets for 10 minutes?It would have made for even better TeeVee.

    I guess they were too worried about hair and makeup.