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Forget it, Jake.

The Detroit City Coun­cil is hold­ing hear­ings on the cur­rent may­oral scan­dal. Unfor­tu­nately, a recess was called this after­noon when one coun­cil mem­ber got into it with two oth­ers, refer­ring to one as “Shrek” and taunt­ing, “You’re not my daddy!”

Video here. Highly rec­om­mended. Being a gov­ern­ment reporter here must be beyond awesome.

Mean­while, back in Grosse Pointe, they’re hav­ing a sale at Brooks Brothers:

Sale at Brooks Brothers

51 responses to
“Forget it, Jake.”

  1. Mindy said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    I know there’s such a thing as “go to hell” pants that look like this, but the jacket? Wed­ding attire for a clown, maybe.

  2. Kirk said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    I think Jimmy Crum has one like that.

  3. nancy said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    That’s exactly who I thought of, Kirk. For the unini­ti­ated, an old Colum­bus sports­caster who made loud jack­ets his trademark.

  4. Julie Robinson said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    More proof that every­thing comes back. I had a dress like that in high school, except in what we would now call jewel tones.

  5. sue said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Oooh, I’ll take one in each color. Oh, wait…

  6. Harl Delos said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Jimmy Crumm? I was think­ing Al Schottelkotte.

    But I usu­ally watched Nick Clooney, because I was afraid Al’s show would cause epilep­tic seizures.

    (Cincin­nati news­read­ers, not Cowlumbus.)

  7. Kirk said on April 11th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    I sel­dom saw Schot­telkotte, but I remem­ber his broad­casts hav­ing almost no video and lots of sto­ries in which cops were heroes or gen­er­ally great guys.

  8. Dexter said on April 11th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Mindy, here’s the “Muzak” that was play­ing , at least in the head of the buyer of that cra-zeee jacket.
    http://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​y​c​f​K​E​m3ki_o

  9. Dexter said on April 11th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    Mr. Cot­trell didn’t REALLY look like Shrek…Shrek doesn’t wear glasses.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Maybe Kwame ought to address these folks in cham­ber and start off by say­ing, “Mrs. Kil­patrick and I have a DIFFERENT kind of mar­riage…”, just like Gov­er­nor Pater­son did at his swearing-in. But then, things have gone too far to save Mr. Mayor by now.
    And, you know what? Gov. Pater­son was right to do a tell-all from the get-go…there hasn’t been a peep from the NYC media about Pater­son since we learned of the Days Inn ren­dezvous point.

  10. Dexter said on April 11th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    btw.…Lindsey Nel­son loved those jack­ets, too.

    http://​www​.the​vib​.com/​l​n​e​l​s​on.jpg

  11. alex said on April 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    A friend’s always try­ing to drag me to the out­let mall and it seems to me that’s exactly what all of the cloth­ing there looks like. He’s one of those peo­ple who thinks that buy­ing some­thing with a fancy brand name at a dirt-cheap price is some sort of tri­umph, but the thrill’s lost on me. Per­son­ally, I’d sooner buy boot­legged Chi­nese stuff out of the back of a truck. At least they offer styles you wouldn’t be embar­rassed to be seen in.

  12. michaelj said on April 11th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    I used to have a patch madras jacket. I thought it seri­ously cool. Back around ’68. Stolen from the fam­ily wagon, along with all of our clothes, at a Ham­tramck motel dur­ing a total fam­ily break­down that had been com­ing on for years since the death of my lit­tle brother Matt. We left Detroit and moved to Mem­phis, and moved back again a week or so later. Dys­func­tional doesn’t come close.

    But any­way, I like that jacket, and I could get away with wear­ing it to Sun­day Brunch at Cracker Bar­rel on Hilton Head Island. There is cer­tainly such a thing as being hip­per than thou, and mock­ery is short sur­feit when you have every rea­son to be ridiculed for your own fash­ion choices. These days, I’m par­tial to a Her­schel Walker jer­sey dressed up with a black linen blazer. With taste­ful pleated khakis. De gustibus and plus ca change. And I’d like my jacket back. And my brother, too.

  13. Laura said on April 11th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    They’re sell­ing the same jacket (non-pastel, though)
    at J. Crew. Madras patch­work is actu­ally fairly hip.

  14. Linda said on April 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    I just saw a patch madras pair of shorts in a women’s cat­a­log, and thought, “my God, would any­body pay $59 to look like that on purpose?”

  15. Laura said on April 11th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    I think madras looks best on teens and 20-somethings. After that, maybe not so much. My teenage daugh­ter and her friends all rock the madras look – usu­ally with shorts or mini-skirts. They all look pretty cute. Of course, they look cute in every­thing, damn them.

  16. John c said on April 11th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Okay, here’s the thing. I’m a prep­pie at heart, which sort of just hap­pens when you grow up in Con­necti­cut and aren’t Ital­ian or black or Latino. So I look at jack­ets like this every once in a while — I live in Grosse Pointe, where they are, er, not uncom­mon — and for just a few sec­onds I think I should get one. I think I would look like that cool, goofy, fun-loving guy you occa­sion­ally see in one. Then I remem­ber: most of the guys you see in one are, well, richards. I’m not sure I have what it takes to be one of the rare few. (michaelj: some­thing tells me you might be.) So I pass, and set­tle for khakis and dock­siders with no socks and faded double-l polos, etc.
    Some­where in my 9-year-old’s col­lec­tion of hand-me-downs is a pair of shorts that look like this jacket. Some­time last year I was going through his closet and pulled it out, hold­ing it up for him. “How about this one?” I asked. He sort of cocked his head, wrin­kled the cor­ner of one eye and said: “Uhh. No.” I threw it in a pile and thought: He’s gonna be okay.

  17. Harl Delos said on April 11th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Back to Chris Matthews:

    SHUSTER: Well, here’s the other thing that we saw on the tape, Chris, is that, when Obama went in, he was offered cof­fee, and he said, “I’ll have orange juice.”

    MATTHEWS: No.

    SHUSTER: He did.

    And it’s just one of those sort of weird things. You know, when the owner of the diner says, “Here, have some cof­fee,” you say, “Yes, thank you,” and, “Oh, can I also please have some orange juice, in addi­tion to this?” You don’t just say, “No, I’ll take orange juice,” and then turn away and start shak­ing hands. That’s what hap­pens [unintelligible] –

    MATTHEWS: You don’t ask for a sub­sti­tute on the menu.

    SHUSTER: Exactly.

    MATTHEWS: David, what a reg­u­lar guy. You could do this.

    How many hours a day does a cam­paigner put in? Don’t you sup­pose it might make sense to get juice, which has potas­sium and sugar in it, and limit the cof­fee, so you can sleep at night?

    If I was in a pri­vate home, and your host­ess offered me a beer, many brands of which I’m aller­gic to, I wouldn’t say, “Thanks, but could you mix me a Whiskey Sour instead?” I might say, “Uh, thanks, but no. Could I have some water instead?” Or I might just accept the beer and touch it to my lips with­out actu­ally drinki­ing any of it.

    But this is a *diner*. In a diner, the wait­ress turns over the cup with one hand, hold­ing the carafe in the other, and says, “Cof­fee, honey?” and you say, “Unleaded, please,” or “Oh, my word, I’m up to my eye­balls in cof­fee already”, or you say, “No”, as the junior sen­a­tor from Illi­nois did, and order a dif­fer­ent bev­er­age. I’ve never seen a diner that didn’t have OJ on the menu.…

    I know these guys don’t live in the real world, but don’t they ever visit this planet once in a while?

  18. michaelj said on April 11th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    WTF is a Richard? I assure you, I’m not, what­ever it may be. I like to think of myself, as I’m sure all of you do, as uncat­e­go­riz­able. Tall and hand­some? Check. Aryan as hell? Check. Inquis­i­tive? Intel­li­gent? Teill­hardian? Yup. If /richard has to do with Kings of Eng­land , I’m of the II vari­ety, not IIIrd.

    For God’s sake, let us sit upon the ground
    And tell sad sto­ries of the death of kings
    . (I think this is the great­est speech Shake­spear wrote. It might be bizarre I have an opin­ion. While I’m at it, the decond solil­o­quy is a whole lot bet­ter than To be, or not to be.)

    More Cal­iban, less Pros­pero, aside from wish­ing some­thing true. But Cal­iban has the sec­ond best speech

    Be not afeard; the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Some­times a thou­sand twan­gling instru­ments
    Will hum about mine ears, and some­time voices
    That, if I then had waked after long sleep,
    Will make me sleep again: and then, in dream­ing,
    The clouds methought would open and show riches
    Ready to drop upon me that, when I waked,
    I cried to dream again.

    Laura: Isn’t pas­tel impos­si­ble for real madras? How would it bleed effectively?

  19. Dave K. said on April 11th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    michaelj.…“WTF is a Richard?” Seri­ously, mike, you couldn’t fig­ure this out?

    As I was lis­ten­ing to the City Coun­cil video, my wife asked if I was watch­ing “Reno 911″. She hon­estly thought the voices were that of Reno deputies Williams and Jones.

    Richard=DICK, was the way I remem­ber it, when we used to page “Richard Cra­nium” on the plant-wide PA system.

  20. michaelj said on April 11th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Seri­ously Dave, I couldn’t be bothered.

  21. michaelj said on April 11th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Seri­ously. A Richard? You mean a dick? How clever. There is no pos­si­bil­ity of a lamer piece of shit bit of cell-phone garbage, Chad. Seri­ously sorry. Hilar­i­ous, though.

    What is the result when dick­heads call peo­ple dicks? Too dumb for words.

  22. michaelj said on April 11th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    So how does that ahole get off call­ing me a dick and left free to gaze long­ingly into his own fun­da­ment?? If I’m pricked do I not bleed? Who exactly did I offend?

  23. michaelj said on April 11th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    What exactly is the ‘plant-wide PA system’?

  24. whitebeard said on April 12th, 2008 at 12:41 am

    I worked with some­one, who, believe it or not, intro­duced him­self as Dick Han­dler, and never knew the meaning

  25. Harl Delos said on April 12th, 2008 at 1:10 am

    If, every time you met some­one, peo­ple had a ner­vous tit­ter, don’t you sup­pose you’d even­tu­ally fig­ure out it had some­thing to do with your name?

    If the guy had an IQ over 80, he knew what it meant before he got through the third grade. And if he was men­tally retarded, he’d still learn it in the locker room when he took phys­i­cal education.

    I think peo­ple with names like that fig­ure that peo­ple are going to laugh any­how, and it’s bet­ter to face it straight out than to try to call your­self Richard.

    Dick Hoff, an insur­ance agent, used to have a bill­board on US 127 near Van Wert. I’m sure he heard a lot of “Who’s on First” jokes. On the other hand, most peo­ple switch insur­ance agents because they get a renewal notice, and rates have risen. Nobody would notice a bill­board for Richard Hoff  — but they’d remem­ber Dick’s bill­board. I imag­ine he would get more than an aver­age num­ber of calls for com­pet­i­tive quotes.

  26. whitebeard said on April 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Harl, this Dick Han­dler was incred­i­bly obnox­ious and totally clue­less. The first Iraqi War, the real one, hap­pened around dead­line at the morn­ing paper where I worked and we were updat­ing with bet­ter pho­tos and a bet­ter story for every edi­tion. I col­lected all six edi­tions to save as a sou­venir and he came up to my desk, picked up “my” papers and said he was look­ing for the var­i­ous edi­tions.
    And as for clue­less, he bought a new car and called me the next day because it would not start. I asked him all kinds of ques­tions: was it auto­matic or man­ual? Was the bat­tery fully charged? Was it the pri­mary key or sec­ondary key he was using?
    When he said it was man­ual, I asked him to go out to the car and see if he heard a click from the engine com­part­ment when he turned the igni­tion key to start. He came back in
    to say there was no click. I then asked him to go out­side and turn on the head­lights and see if they dimmed when he tried to start the engine. He came and said that the lights did not dim.
    I then asked if he had any trou­ble start­ing the car the day before and he said the sales­man had started the car and he, Dick Han­dler, got in and drove it home.
    Then I asked the ques­tion I had been sav­ing right from the begin­ning of our con­ver­sa­tion 23 min­utes ago. When he pushed the clutch pedal, I asked, did he push it all the way to the floor.
    Why would I push the clutch pedal to the floor when I start the engine, he replied.
    Oh, I said, didn’t you know that on new cars there is a safety igni­tion inter­lock fea­ture that means you have to press the clutch to start the engine. Pay­back is always fun.

  27. coozledad said on April 12th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    One of the ben­e­fits of liv­ing close to Duke and UNC is the kind of stuff that shows up at the Good­will stores. I’ve seen this jacket, or its sim­u­lacrum, for four bucks ( although I thought that was an insanely high price for some­thing designed to be worn with white oxfords). A lot of the local shops donate last season’s line, too, so a lot of the stuff hasn’t even been worn.
    If you need a blue blazer in either wool or a sum­mer weight fab­ric, chances are they’ll have it in your size, with­out con­spic­u­ous moth-holes or seep­age from the corpse they pried it off of, even. Do I sound like a crazy cheap­skate? Well, I am. But it’s more that I have a tough time giv­ing a damn what any­one thinks anymore.

  28. Dave K. said on April 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    michaellj.… PA = Pub­lic Address sys­tem. Plant-wide = The “PA” audio announce­ments can be heard through­out the entire plant/factory/facility.

    Sorry you “couldn’t be both­ered…”, but back to the topic. If Mon­ica Cony­ers doesn’t sound exactly like Reno 911 deputy
    Rainee­sha Williams, you can call me “Richard”.

  29. John c said on April 12th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    michaelj … If you read back care­fully you will see I was NOT call­ing you a dick. I was say­ing that you were, are, most likely one of the few who could carry off a jacket like that. My point, per­haps poorly made, was that in the right hands, it’s a great jacket. But in most hands, includ­ing mine, it is the oppo­site of a great jacket. Of course, now I’m won­der­ing if I was wrong. But no dis­re­spect intended.

  30. del said on April 12th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    John c, that’s what I was try­ing to tell michaelj before my com­puter cut out. D’oh! Could tell you meant that mj could prob­a­bly be one of the cool, fun-loving guys who could pull it off. (And sorry about your brother mj.)

  31. Dave said on April 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    When I learned to drive a stick (man­ual trans­mis­sion), way back in the dark ages, my father taught me to push in the clutch every time when start­ing the car. This, bet­ter than hav­ing the gearshift in neu­tral, to avoid the pos­si­bil­ity of the dri­ver only think­ing that it was in neu­tral, to avoid that sud­den leap for­ward or backward.

  32. whitebeard said on April 12th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    I did not empha­size that clutch les­son enough to my daugh­ter, who started an older BMW while in gear. The car shot for­ward into the repair shop where her hus­band was work­ing and hit the car lift, dis­lodg­ing a much larger Buick that par­tially crushed the BMW. The shop owner was in shock at see­ing this, as if he was seven months preg­nant as my daugh­ter was at the time. She was unhurt.

  33. Julie Robinson said on April 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Coozel­dad, we lurv the Good­wills and Sal­va­tion Army stores! Our son works at one of those mall stores and has to wear their over­priced crap while at work. Even at his 40% employee dis­count it’s too expen­sive for a col­lege stu­dent mak­ing $6/hr, so he haunts the thrifts. These are the times when I am very proud of his values.

  34. whitebeard said on April 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    We are proud of the 13-year-old grand­son who lives with us as well because he has fun pick­ing T-shirts and other clothes in Good­will and when I travel to other cities on busi­ness, my friend takes me to Good­will stores, she loves hand­bags, I look at any­thing I can cram into my car­ryon luggage

  35. Dexter said on April 13th, 2008 at 10:56 am

    AH! How nice to wake to snow today! Another day of the bicy­cles safely locked away in the garage. Oh , it could be worse, and at least I do have freshly ground cof­fee beans.…

  36. Mindy said on April 13th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Accept no imi­ta­tions, Dex­ter!
    http://​www​.almanac​.com/

  37. MichaelG said on April 13th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Used to be a NASCAR race dri­ver named Dick Trickle. Swear to God.

    I had a friend many years ago who was the ser­vice man­ager at a BMW store. Some genius at the regional level decided that ser­vice man­agers should wear suits. So Leroy used to buy a suit a week from the Sal­va­tion Army. He’d wear it for five days and toss it. It was cheaper than a bill from the dry cleaner. You can imag­ine the look and fit of some of them  —  espe­cially by Fri­day. This only lasted a month or two.

    It’s in the eight­ies here today.

  38. Harl Delos said on April 13th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Used to be a NASCAR race dri­ver named Dick Trickle.

    He was Rookie of the Year in 1989. I could be wrong, but I think he was the old­est one ever.

    He drove for Cale Yarbor­ough that year, and in 1990, the Tom Cruise movie about NASCAR (Days of Thun­der) came out. They called the Tom Cruise char­ac­ter Cale Cole Trickle. Hmmm. Won­der where they came up with that name.

    It’s not a great movie; instead, it’s the kind of testos­terone flick that TBS runs, with 51 min­utes of edited-down movie between 188 min­utes of com­mer­cials. TiVO it, so you can skip through the ads, chill a 6-pack, order a pizza, and you’ll be able to anchor the couch for a while, so it doesn’t float up and scuff the paint on the ceiling.

    On the other hand, while Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise, this one had a bet­ter script than most of his other movies, and Robert Duvall is good: “No, no, he didn’t slam into you, he didn’t bump you, he didn’t nudge you…he RUBBED you. And rub­bin, son, is racin’.”

    I don’t think there’s a good first name to go with “Trickle”. Nor with “Hooker”. Nor a bad first name to go with Derringer.

  39. brian stouder said on April 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    I don’t think there’s a good first name to go with “Trickle”. Nor with Hooker”.

    ‘Fight’n Joe Hooker’  — or “FJ Hooker”, as Lee short­ened it, was a pretty apt name. We used to deal with a fel­low named Richard Payne (a manufacturer’s rep for a hose company)

    We just watched Hell’s Angels — the Howard Hughes flick from 80 years ago; we had never watched it before, and we’ve wanted to ever since watch­ing Leonardo DiCaprio’s tour de force in The Aviator…and then Grant snapped it up at the library yes­ter­day. If all you did was look at Jean Har­low — it’s a GREAT movie! — and beyond her, it is still quite remarkable

  40. MarkH said on April 13th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Trickle WAS Rookie of the Year in ’89, Harl, and the old­est. Prior to that, a short-track king out of Wis­con­sin. Claims were made that he had either 1200 or 2000 career wins to his credit over­all, depend­ing on who was doing the claim­ing. This is, of course, BS. Other than a few NASCAR wins, his claim to fame was his insis­tence that he be able to SMOKE DURING THE RACE. NASCAR alledgedly relented after a time and said okay, but only dur­ing yel­low flags. Leg­end has it that footage exists from an in-car cam­era shot dur­ing a 1990 race of him light­ing up in such an instance. And, I’m sure you remem­ber, Harl, that dur­ing their ESPN days, Dan Patrick and Keith Olber­mann always announced his fin­ishes, no mat­ter where they were, just so they could say his name.

    Most rac­ing movies have such BS sto­ry­lines, but the action always makes it worth­while. Even “Thun­der”, although I always thought it was just re-hashed “Top Gun” on wheels. I always revere “Grand Prix”, but the best rac­ing fea­ture film, I think, is McQueen’s “LeMans”. Barely even a story line, at McQuen’s insis­tence, but ter­rific footage. Best one ever,though it’s a doc­u­men­tary, is Michael Keyser’s “The Speed Mer­chants”, chron­i­cling the 1972 inter­na­tional sports car sea­son. Brian, ever see that one?

    Dial­ing back a bit to Friday:

    Kirk, if you were look­ing for video in a TV news­cast and miss­ing it, you weren’t watch­ing Shot­telkotte. Must have been some other Cincy newsshow. In 1965 when I was 13, I moved from Pitts­burgh and KDKA TV’s Bill Burns to Cincin­nati, and Shot­telkotte was on every night in our house until my mother moved away in 1978. Al was known for his pen­chant of cram­ming as many sto­ries into the broad­cast as pos­si­ble, none more than 30 sec­onds long, most shorter, and always with visu­als. Back in the ‘50s, ‘60s, this would have meant film and still shots (even polaroids!), and the of course, video begin­ning in the mid-‘70s. A real news­man, he was, start­ing at age 16 at the Post, then to radio and TV. In fact, the only times you saw him dur­ing his news­cast were the intro, the close, and throw­ing to weath­er­man Dick Cole­man, and sports­caster, Jack Moran. Who, by the way, was the one who wore the loud sports­coats, a la Jimmy Crum, not Al. Yes, Al was always old school, never apoloized for it, but no one cov­ered the city bet­ter back in the day. No mat­ter who WLW or WKRC put up against him, they always trailed in the rat­ings. That is, up until the mid-‘70s advent of the telegenic news­read­ers, and his approach showed its age. That’s when and where Clooney and Jerry Springer and the likes of them came up in Cincin­nati. So, Harl, label­ing Shot­tlekotte a mere “news­reader” does scant jus­tice to a man who WAS news in the Queen City. My for­mer OSU J-school class­mate, Barry Horstmann tells it bet­ter in this obit after Schot­telkotte died in 1996.

    http://​karenseren​ity​.com/​i​n​s​p​i​r​a​t​i​o​n​/​i​n​d​e​x​.​p​h​p​?​o​p​t​i​o​n​=​c​o​m​_​c​o​n​t​e​n​t​&​a​m​p​;​t​a​s​k​=​v​i​e​w​&​a​m​p​;id=63

    He was also known as a tyrant of an edi­tor to his reporters, and I inad­ver­tantly saw this first-hand. While attend­ing UC, I was sum­mer job-hunting, and wanted to work in radio or TV, so made the rounds of all the broad­cast out­lets in ’71 or ’72. While at WCPO, I was directed through the news­room and was star­tled to be walk­ing past Shottelkotte’s news desk, with him in the “slot” sur­rounded by three reporters. As I hur­ried to exit to an office, I sud­denly heard behind me, “What the hell is this shit?!” I turned around in time to see and hear him loudly rip one of the reporters, Walt Maher, a new ass­hole on how he han­dled a story. All Maher could do was cower bug-eyed behind his type­writer. Definit­ley a depar­ture from his on-air personna.

  41. MichaelG said on April 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    Noth­ing wrong with John Lee Hooker the great blues singer.

    That was true about Dick Trickle (funny how how you have to say his whole name) smok­ing in the race car. He would light up dur­ing yel­low flag laps and they would pick it up on the in car cam­era. I don’t recall any­body ever mak­ing a stink about it.

  42. Harl Delos said on April 13th, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    I always revere “Grand Prix”

    I loved it when it came out, saw it recently on TV, and was so dis­ap­pointed. A cou­ple of days later, I real­ized why. When I saw it orig­i­nally, the the­atre shook when they’d rev the engines, and the screen was so big that you’d flinch when the cars drove straight at the cam­eras. It just isn’t the same on a 27-inch screen at vol­ume lev­els suit­able for keep­ing neigh­bors happy.

    So, Harl, label­ing Shot­tlekotte a mere “news­reader” does scant jus­tice to a man who WAS news in the Queen City.

    He had been at one time. By the late 1970s, he had become irrel­e­vant, and it wasn’t any great accom­plish­ment for Nick Clooney to become the #1 news anchor in Cincin­nati — all they had to do was broad­cast some­thing halfway accept­able, know­ing that even­tu­ally peo­ple would dis­cover it.

    What you didn’t say was that between those 20 – 30 sec­ond sto­ries, there was a video glurge of about 15 still images each dis­played for 1/30 of a sec­ond apiece. It was like star­ing at a strobe light or watch­ing a bad movie about LSD flashbacks.

    Wal­ter Cronkite went to Hous­ton or to Cape Canaveral for space shots. Dan Rather went to Nam, and he cov­ered hur­ri­canes while hold­ing onto a street sign to keep from being blown away. Even Hilliard Gates went out to cover golf tour­na­ments until he retired. Did Al ever leave the stu­dio to cover news? In the late 1970s, it seemed like he was just read­ing sto­ries that staffers had covered.

  43. MarkH said on April 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    My point, exactly, Harl. Noth­ing lasts for­ever, even Al’s posi­tion at top ‘o the news heap. His style got old, and we saw less of him. I fig­ure by the mid ‘70s as the aging pop­u­la­tion died off, he lost his appeal. Oddly, though, the last time I was in Cincin­nati, in 1985, I saw him shar­ing the 6:00 news desk with another male anchor. Boy, did he look SMALL. And, he did cover sto­ries, espe­cially in his early days on radio and TV. In TV news’ infancy, no one had much of a news staff, so it was mostly him. Even later, up until prob­a­bly the early ‘70s, he did go on some sto­ries him­self, espe­cially if it involved city/county gov­ern­ment shenani­gans. You’re right; as time went on, he was more the man­ag­ing edi­tor. But he was in charge, as the edi­tor, and with a com­pe­tent staff, why would he have to go out so much? I don’t buy the com­par­i­son to Cronkite or Rather on the types of sto­ries you men­tioned. Those were large, one-shot sto­ries, impor­tant enough to make sure view­ers tuned in. Hence the net­work big-guns fronted the work, AND…the net­works had the MONEY. Yes, the rapid-fire stills were part of the plan, and I chuckle at your exag­ger­a­tion of psy­che­delia, but I always thought it worked. In any event, WCPO, Schot­telkotte and CBS news were among my biggest inspi­ra­tions to pur­sue a report­ing career.

    You are cor­rect on Grand Prix, Harl. I remem­ber see­ing it as a teen at a Cincy the­atre when it came out. Noth­ing will equal that. I think it was in a quasi-Cinerama for­mat, too, with a pre-Sens-suround audio. How­ever, our 50 inch TV with a home the­ater setup and the dvd works quite well, con­sid­er­ing. Inter­est­ing note on this movie: Harl, did you ever read Robert Daley’s “The Cruel Sport”? It came out in ’63 after Daley spent five sea­sons cov­er­ing For­mula One for the New York Times. Robert Alan Arthur got sole credit for the screen­play, but entire lines of dia­log are lifted from Daley’s book. He got no credit. I think it’s a crime when you fig­ure this book had to be Frankenheimer’s inspi­ra­tion for the film. The title came from Dan Gurney’s com­ment after a colleague’s rac­ing death: “This is a cruel sport…”. The film story is hor­ri­ble, but the no-tricks-filming of the rac­ing action makes it worth it.

    EDIT: OK, OK, I, too, can’t believe I’ve spent all this time defend­ing Al Schot­tlekotte!! It’s just that his impact on Cincy is per­ma­nent and unde­ni­able. :)

  44. coozledad said on April 13th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Julie: Good on that kid. I wish I’d been more of an inde­pen­dent thinker when I was that age. I had to wait until I got hitched and my wife beat the mall out of me.

  45. brian stouder said on April 13th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    Only big-screen movie I’ve seen in “sense-surround” sound was the orig­i­nal release of Mid­way, with Charl­ton Heston…and Henry Fonda played Chester Nimitz (I think he played Nimitz in two other movies, too)

    Mark — not sure about Speed Mer­chants; I have seen a late-60’s/early 70’s doc­u­men­tary movie about rac­ing which included some fairly trou­bling scenes of peo­ple get­ting killed (includ­ing some hap­less fel­low dart­ing across pit-lane, and then get­ting pitched high into the air by an incom­ing car, and then falling life­less to the ground).…possibly that was it. Grand Prix and Le Mans are both excel­lent movies; they cap­ture the col­ors and the appeal. (espe­cially when they get to Monaco, for example)

    The first morn­ing I parked the car at Michi­gan Inter­na­tional Speed­way at Brook­lyn, I smelled lots of charcoal-fired bar­be­cues; and each time since, that’s the first thing I smeall. Now, on the rare occa­sions that I smell char­coal burn­ing in a grill, I imme­di­ately think ‘RACE DAY’!!

  46. Harl Delos said on April 13th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    But he was in charge, as the edi­tor, and with a com­pe­tent staff, why would he have to go out so much?

    No rea­son. And I don’t mean to demean Al. But that’s the dis­tinc­tion I draw between “news reader” and “news anchor”. The news­reader stays in the build­ing, while the news anchor goes out and cov­ers the really big stories.

    Harl, did you ever read Robert Daley’s “The Cruel Sport”?

    I never heard of the book or the movie before this; I need to rem­edy that, appar­ently. Thanks for the recommendation.

    I was read­ing ear­lier today that Jackie Stew­art won 27 F1 races, but he saw 57 “close friends, col­leagues and com­peti­tors” die on the track. Talk about a cruel sport!

    From Grand Prix:

    Jean-Pierre Sarti: Before you leave I want to tell you some­thing. Not about the oth­ers, but about myself. I used to go to pieces. I’d see an acci­dent like that and be so weak inside that I wanted to quit — stop the car and walk away. I could hardly make myself go past it. But I’m older now. When I see some­thing really hor­ri­ble, I put my foot down. Hard! Because I know that every­one else is lift­ing his.
    Louise Fred­er­ick­son: What a ter­ri­ble way to win.
    Jean-Pierre Sarti: No, there is no ter­ri­ble way to win. There is only winning.

  47. MichaelG said on April 13th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    That hor­ri­ble crash in “Le Mans” was not staged. It was the real thing. The dri­ver, David Piper, lost a leg in the acci­dent. Aside from that awful moment, it was a ter­iffic film.

  48. MarkH said on April 14th, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Harl, your excel­lently cho­sen quote is just one of sev­eral exam­ples of Daley’s work appear­ing in the film.

    From “The Cruel Sport”, page 155, here’s Daley’s ver­sion, in a photo descrip­tion of a crash scene:

    “Above, two Fer­raris speed past the burn­ing, upside down wreck. Nei­ther dri­ver knows what has hap­pened or who is hurt, per­haps dead. The head of the rookie dri­ver, trail­ing, is screwed side­ways, eyes try­ing to pen­e­trate the smoke and steam. The vet­eran dri­ver stares straight ahead. Later, he will answer in a flat voice, “What did it do to me? Noth­ing. Do I sound cal­lous? I used to go to pieces. I’d see an acci­dent like that and feel so weak inside that I wanted to quit, to stop the car and get out. I could hardly make myself go past it.
    “But I’m older now. When I see some­thing really hor­ri­ble, I put my foot down, because I know every­one else is lift­ing his.“
    Daley never revealed who actu­ally said this, but judg­ing by the par­tic­u­lar model Fer­rari, and rookie fol­low­ing vet­eran, I would think it was vet­eran Phil Hill, fol­lowed by Wolf­gang Von Trips’ replace­ment after Trips was killed in the 1961 Ital­ian GP; late ’61, or early ’62.

    Pla­gia­rism? I never saw or heard of any com­plaint from Daley, but that looks pretty blatant.

    True story about Piper and his lost leg, Michael, but I’m not sure that crash was left in as McQueen’s crash of car #20. I have Michael Keyser’s book, “A French Kiss With Death” chron­i­cling the mak­ing od the film, and the film crash is described as care­fully staged with a hybrid Porsche-bodied Lola. Piper’s car was being filmed as it crashed, but it was much more heav­ily destroyed and was #21. No men­tion was made that it was used in the final film.

    And, yes, Harl, your dis­tinc­tion drawn between news­reader and news anchor is appro­pri­ate, and sup­ports the dis­tinc­tion between Schot­telkotte and Clooney.

  49. Harl Delos said on April 14th, 2008 at 12:57 am

    In today’s

    NY Times
    , an arti­cle on the win­ner of the “worst name” contest.

    Iona Knipl (pro­nounced “nip­ple”), cho­sen because of the obvi­ous response when intro­duces her­self. “Hi, I own TWO”. After mar­ry­ing and divorc­ing, she took back her maiden name. She kinda liked it. (FWIW, Kinpl is appa­rantly yid­dish for “loose change”.)

    I like the name Iona. Iona is a syn­onym for “amethyst”. The name was pop­u­lar between 1900 and 1920, but by 1930, almost nobody was being named Iona. Mom knew Iona Ford, who mar­ried a man named Carr, becom­ing Iona Carr. Her hus­band owned Carr Trac­tor Sales, which was a Ford Trac­tor dealership.

    Hun­dreds of com­ments on the NYT story; most are inter­est­ing to read. A cou­ple of peo­ple men­tioned Harry Baals (mayor of Fort Wayne from 1934 – 1954, when he died, except for one term 1948 – 1951) but nobody spelled it right.

    Another com­ment men­tioned Joy Bang. I took a class at Defi­ance Col­lege in 1969 with some­one of that name. Could there be two of them? (She was smart, funny, hot, and play­ful, and I think she was engaged. In any case, she was an upper­class­man who didn’t know I existed.)

  50. John said on April 14th, 2008 at 7:51 am

    I’m a prep­pie at heart, which sort of just hap­pens when you grow up in Con­necti­cut and aren’t Ital­ian or black or Latino.

    I’m guess­ing you are talk­ing about the “west of the Con­necti­cut River” part of the state.

  51. MichaelG said on April 14th, 2008 at 9:07 am

    I’m sure you’re cor­rect, Mark. I’m oper­at­ing off an ancient mem­ory with­out a ref­er­ence. Too lazy to google.

    Boy, I can see that on a tomb­stone now. TOO LAZY TO GOOGLE.

    Ms. Knipl is too good. I knew a kid named Joe Blow in third or fourth grade.