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Look, a shiny object!

Today’s update is the ADHD Edi­tion. You’ve been warned:

Pep­pers and eggs — now there’s a break­fast of cham­pi­ons. Cook the pep­pers first in some EVOO, and you could even call it healthy. (I will brook no slan­der of eggs. Mod­er­a­tion, peo­ples.) Halfway through, I remem­bered I’m sup­posed to be lunch­ing with JohnC today, and I prob­a­bly won’t be hun­gry until 2 p.m. Ah, well. That’s why we have salads.

Saw the trailer for “Cadil­lac Records” on the Apple site this week. It looks as though it has a 50 – 50 chance of being tremen­dous or suck­tas­tic. I winced at the moment where the Rolling Stones show up on the side­walk out­side the Chess offices to tell Muddy Waters they’d named their band after one of his songs. But when Bey­oncé sings “At Last” — magic. And Adrien Brody is swiftly becom­ing one of my favorite actors, mainly due to his mar­velous honker. I don’t think I’ve seen an imper­fect fea­ture make for such a per­fect face since, oh, Bar­bra Streisand.

Trivia: Bar­bra Streisand was on the Knight Rid­der copy-editing tests, along with Charles Addams, for obvi­ous rea­sons. Now you know. And yes, I caught them both. (Although, reread­ing this entry prior to hit­ting “pub­lish,” I see I mis­spelled Adrien Brody’s name — twice.)

And while we’re mak­ing tran­si­tions from tissue-thin con­nec­tions, here’s Adrien Brody in the tit­u­lar make of his lat­est movie. Sigh. Detroit was some­thing while it lasted, wasn’t it?

Which brings us around to the auto­mo­tive bailout, appar­ently dead in the water, and prob­a­bly that’s a good thing. You don’t cure a drug addict by giv­ing him one last binge, and after quite a bit of read­ing I’ve come around to Micki Maynard’s analy­sis — bank­ruptcy is a bet­ter way out for Gen­eral Motors than a bailout. Although this, from Tom Fried­man, sounds appealing:

I am as ter­ri­fied as any­one of the domino effect on indus­try and work­ers if G.M. were to col­lapse. But if we are going to use tax­payer money to res­cue Detroit, then it should be done along the lines pro­posed in The Wall Street Jour­nal on Mon­day by Paul Ingras­sia, a for­mer Detroit bureau chief for that paper.

“In return for any direct gov­ern­ment aid,” he wrote, “the board and the man­age­ment [of G.M.] should go. Share­hold­ers should lose their pal­try remain­ing equity. And a government-appointed receiver — some­one hard-nosed and non­po­lit­i­cal — should have broad power to revamp G.M. with a viable busi­ness plan and return it to a pri­vate oper­a­tion as soon as pos­si­ble. That will mean tear­ing up exist­ing con­tracts with unions, deal­ers and sup­pli­ers, clos­ing some oper­a­tions and sell­ing oth­ers and down­siz­ing the com­pany. … Giv­ing G.M. a blank check — which the com­pany and the United Auto Work­ers union badly want, and which Wash­ing­ton will be tempted to grant — would be an enor­mous mistake.”

I like the idea of Mr. or Ms. Hard-Nose putting Rick Wag­oner and the Board of Bystanders (to use Jalopnik’s amus­ing phrase) in charge of the office cof­fee pot while they tear up con­tracts and fire peo­ple. It will be so amus­ing to mop up the blood in the gut­ters of my neigh­bor­hood. We live in inter­est­ing times, don’t we?

Wher­ever the for­mer GM work­ers end up after Paul Ingrassia’s plan has them beheaded, the women among them will want to invest in a nice suit. The NYT says so: The return of the inter­view suit, it pro­claimed yes­ter­day. Jezebel got a lit­tle knicker-twisted over it, but that’s just because they’re young and prod­ucts of our casual cul­ture. The inter­view suit was sim­ply a given for women my age; we called them hire-me suits. For best results, hire-me suits should always be worn with fuck-me pumps — it sends pre­cisely the right mes­sage, which you are free to retract as soon as you get the job. In later years, it was always sort of funny-painful to see younger peo­ple going through the inter­view process, as clearly the relax­ation of rules had done them no good. One kid came in wear­ing what had to have been his dad’s suit, it was that big on him. (He may have bor­rowed it from David Byrne.) They wore neck­ties and panty­hose as though these items were made of barbed wire, not the trap­pings of adult­hood. Once hired, they retracted their own mes­sages, and started show­ing up in Teva san­dals expos­ing dirty toe­nails. Which is fine, I guess, but you should still make the effort for your first impres­sion. It’s com­mon courtesy.

By the way, does any­one know who made the pantsuit Dar­ryl Han­nah wears in “Kill Bill, Vol. 2″? I want that for my next suit, along with the blouse and the six-foot-tall coat-hanger body Han­nah brings to the party. She can keep the eye patch.

And now I am dis­tracted by a shiny object and must go. But I wish you all a great weekend.

113 responses to
“Look, a shiny object!”

  1. moe99 said on November 14th, 2008 at 10:43 am

    Ok, I got left behind as the last post pre­vi­ous, but this is worth shar­ing. Take the BBC Hol­ly­wood quiz. What’s your score? Mine was 7 out of 10.

    http://​news​.bbc​.co​.uk/​1​/​h​i​/​m​a​g​a​z​i​n​e​/​7​7​2​4​4​46.stm

    Went back and checked and Brian, I had the same expe­ri­ence – I missed the first 3 and got ner­vous but then fin­ished strong. Won­der how our bar­keep will do.

  2. Jolene said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:07 am

    I left my score at the end of the last thread. Got 8 out of 10, so, as I said there, I’m giv­ing myself a cookie.

  3. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    So, re: GM and bank­ruptcy in the NYT piece — “set­ting up a poten­tial con­fronta­tion with its unions.” What exactly can the unions do if GM’s board has a cred­i­ble bank­ruptcy case to make in front of a judge? Do they tackle the coun­sel before s/he puts the fil­ing on the counter of the court clerk?

    Or is there some clause where GM has to ask per­mis­sion of the unions to file bankruptcy?

    Any­how, i got 9 of 10! Missed Clara Bow, but Mary Pick­ford sure looked like the right pair of lips to be the It Girl.

  4. coozledad said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:22 am

    After I got out of school, I reg­u­larly wore a suit and tie, even when I was bar­tend­ing. The Postal ser­vice cured me of that, and now my neck’s too big for most human-scale shirts, any­way. I’ve got a closet full of Edwar­dian Har­ris tweed jack­ets and Yves St. Lau­rent ties I pur­chased from Love Saves the Day and Alice Under­ground, deck coats, Chester­fields and Burber­rys from Canal Jean, and a knee length cash­mere over­coat I got at the East Durham Good­will. All use­less on the farm. The sheep don’t give a damn about style.

  5. Julie Robinson said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Also, re: Adrien Brody’s face: it’s not just the nose, it’s also the eye­brows. The angle doesn’t look humanly pos­si­ble, but yes, he makes it all work.

    I think that Boards of Direc­tors should be replaced with a bunch of nor­mal peons who have been bal­anc­ing their own bud­gets all along. In our house we don’t buy any­thing, except the house itself, unless we can pay cash. No car pay­ments, no credit card pay­ments, no big screen TVs bought on credit. It makes sleep­ing at night much eas­ier than if we were in debt up to our eye­balls. No, I don’t under­stand deriv­a­tives or lever­ag­ing or short sales; I’m not that sophis­ti­cated. But I under­stand liv­ing within your means, and clearly most CEOs and CFOs don’t.

  6. brian stouder said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am

    coo­zledad, this sentence -

    After I got out of school, I reg­u­larly wore a suit and tie

    imme­di­ately reminded me of the movie Father Goose — a great lit­tle off­beat comedy/drama with Cary Grant (circa 1966). One of my all-time faves, but I’ve never seen it at the dvd rental place.

    But if you see it, you should rent it!

  7. coozledad said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Is that the one where he’s mon­i­tor­ing Japan­ese con­voys? I can’t remem­ber the female lead in that pic­ture. Was it Leslie Caron?

  8. alex said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    Adrien Brody’s got noth­ing on Rossy de Palma, a Span­ish actress I first saw in an Almod­ovar film quite a few years ago. She looks like a Picasso paint­ing come to life:

    http://​www​.por​talmix​.com/​f​a​m​o​s​o​s​/​r​o​s​s​y​d​e​palma/

  9. brian stouder said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:45 am

    That’s the one! First time I saw it, I didn’t even real­ize it was Cary Grant!

    One of the big laughs in the movie that I missed when I was a kiddo is when he is show­ing Caron (that name sounds right) how to fish with her hands, and he says some­thing like “easy.…easy…we don’t want to scare her” and she asks “How do you know it’s a female?” and he retorts “Because she has her mouth open!”

    And the British actor who plays the Com­man­der, whose name won’t come to me, with his tired refrain of “Wal­l­l­ll­ter” on the radio is just good stuff!

  10. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    What Julie said about GM’s board. And it’s worth­while to point out (sorry to beat this dead horse) that there’s a reg­u­la­tory fail­ure here, too. AFAICT, the gov­ern­ment never said, gee, you need to account for the present value of these future pay­ments to worker’s retire­ment and health­care. They didn’t affect the quar­terly income state­ments, so all was well. And now, those chick­ens, they are com­ing home to roost, but they’re not bring­ing fresh, health­ful eggs.

  11. coozledad said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    I like pretty much any film Cary was in, with the excep­tion of Top­per. My wife doesn’t care for Bring­ing up Baby, for the sim­ple rea­son that the lion fails to chew Kather­ine Hepburn’s head off.

  12. Dorothy said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    I only found out this week (or should I say, I real­ized this week) that Con­doleezza Rice’s name has two z’s in it. Check out how pretty her hair looks in this pic­ture. She looks 10 – 20 years younger.

    http://​www​.oan​media​.com/​2​0​0​8​/​1​1​/​c​o​n​d​o​l​e​e​z​z​a​_​r​i​c​e​_​h​i​l​l​a​r​y​_​c​l​i​nt.php

    I got 9 out of 10 on the quiz, Moe. The one I messed up was Mary Pickford/Clara Bow. Dang!

  13. nancy said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Condi does look fab with the new hair. I noticed, in her remarks about Obama’s elec­tion, she also looked much bet­ter, and that was old-hair. I think it’s the relax­ation of the piano wires hold­ing her together that does it. She sees the light at the end of the Bush tun­nel. Funny how know­ing you’re soon going to be out of a bad sit­u­a­tion can work bet­ter than Botox.

  14. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    I read that Condoleezza’s name was a mis­read­ing of Con Dol­cezza, a musi­cal term mean­ing “with sweet­ness.” That C was read as an E.
    She’s not that old, Dorothy. We were both at Uni­ver­sity of Den­ver at the same time, but I DID NOT know her. If I had known she was going to become the sec­re­tary of state I would have made an effort so I could drop her name.
    I knew her dad though. He was a dean.

  15. Jolene said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    I noticed that too, Nancy. She looked really happy as she remarked on Obama’s elec­tion. The pic­ture of Hillary was not so great, but I saw her answer­ing ques­tions on TV recently as she was on her way to a gala of some sort. She was wear­ing a very fancy, royal blue dress and looked terrific.

  16. brian stouder said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Dorothy — 9 out of 10?

    I am now gen­u­flect­ing toward cen­tral Ohio

    Always liked Condi Rice, but she seems like a cipher in the few inside-baseball books about recent his­tory that I’ve read. (can’t decide whether she’s more steely-smart or stone-cold infighter. It will be inter­est­ing to read what­ever book SHE writes, espe­cially with regard to her view of the VP)

  17. Kirk said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    I also was 9 for 10, miss­ing only on Dou­glas Fair­banks. It pays to watch Turner Clas­sic Movies. Ask me about 21st-century movies, and I’ll be no help at all, though I could spot Angelina Jolie’s freak­ish helium lips a mile away.

  18. Dexter said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    At least I knew who Far­ley Granger was. That sure as hell did not look like Dou­glas Fair­banks, Jr. to me. I watch a lot of TMC and was con­fi­dent I would ace it…damn me! I missed 4!

  19. Julie Robinson said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Brian, you can get Father Goose at Net­flix. Cary Grant was also great in Arsenic & Old Lace – funny and yummy at the same time. It’s on my list of movies to watch when I need to laugh, along with Noises Off.

  20. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Bully! (cue bugle, thun­der on the stair treads)

  21. Dorothy said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    I know Condi is not that old, Mary. But her old hairdo never did her any favors. The new one is just dar­ling. If I’m allowed to use that adjec­tive to describe the Sec­re­tary of State.

    Brian I took a wild guess only on the ques­tion about Keith or Harry. Did I get those names right? And I just got mixed up about Clara Bow. She and Mary look so much alike!

    Insan­ity runs in my fam­ily. In fact, it prac­ti­cally gal­lops!! (another line from Arsenic)

  22. Julie Robinson said on November 14th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    I’m not a Brew­ster! I’m the son of a sea-cook!

  23. Rana said on November 14th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    They wore neck­ties and panty­hose as though these items were made of barbed wire, not the trap­pings of adulthood.

    I have to say, panty­hose are at least one rea­son why I’m glad that my work hap­pens in acad­e­mia and at home. I do have an inter­view suit — a lovely camel num­ber from Pendle­ton — but I almost always reach for the pants instead of the suit, just so I don’t have to deal with panty­hose. (I’m short-waisted and clumsy, so the damn things are always squash­ing my rib cage and rarely last two days with­out snag­ging when I do wear them.) btw, Tim Gunn says that panty­hose are no longer a require­ment for pro­fes­sional women. Go, Tim Gunn!

  24. Rana said on November 14th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    I got 6/10 on the quiz. I’m not yet 40, so I fig­ure I was doing well rec­og­niz­ing most of the names, if not always the faces.

  25. MichaelG said on November 14th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Seven here.

    I saw Bar­bra Streisand close up at the San Fran­cisco air­port back in 1969 shortly after I got out of the Army. She was a lot smaller than I would have expected and she was also a very beau­ti­ful woman. Far love­lier in per­son than she ever appeared to be on TV or in the movies.

    Thanks, Mary. I didn’t get to try one of the delis you rec­om­mended but I’ll be going down to that area a lot over the next year or so. A friend took me to a very good Lebanese place for lunch. I really enjoyed it. Next week is Riverside/Berdoo. In that neigh­bor­hood I guess I’ll look for an In-N-Out.

    My daugh­ter went to a Montes­sori school in SF for pre-school. We were very happy with it. It was a pri­vate school. I had never heard of a pub­lic Montes­sori school before the com­ment above. She then went to an excel­lent SFUSD mag­net school for a cou­ple of years before we moved to Marin County. My wife had to spend the night in line to get her in. It was worth it.

    I seem to be run­ning a day behind.

  26. Jolene said on November 14th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    I’ve been notic­ing too that women aren’t wear­ing stock­ings these days. Mostly, I’ve been notic­ing this on TV because all the women I know wear pants pretty much all the time. As much of a pain as panty­hose are, the idea of going bare-legged would seem to impose quite a high stan­dard for what one’s legs should look like and, per­haps, to be prac­ti­cal only for fairly young women. And what do the stock­ing­less women wear in win­ter? Thoughts?

  27. Jeff Borden said on November 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Like every­one else, it seems, I did not rec­og­nize Dou­glas Fair­banks Jr.

    On over­com­pen­sated exec­u­tives and boards, I pro­pose a sim­i­lar solu­tion to what I would like to see applied to the upper ech­e­lon of the Bush Admin­is­tra­tion, to wit, all of these bas­tards should be required to work night shifts for min­i­mum wage at a Vet­er­ans Admin­is­tra­tion hos­pi­tal doing the scut work. Aside from hum­bling these pompous chick­en­hawks, it would keep them in con­stant con­tact with the human results of their perfidy.

    The execs at AIG, Wachovia, GM, et​.al. should be required to work in soup kitchens or home­less shel­ters, since they have con­tributed so might­ily to the eco­nomic mess we’re in.

  28. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    I got 9/10. I missed Jack Hawkins.

  29. beb said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    I kind of like the idea of one stip­u­la­tion to a GM bail-out — the imme­di­ate can­cel­la­tion of the Hum­mer line.

  30. Gasman said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    LA Mary,
    I’ve been a pro musi­cian for close to 30 years and I’ve never seen a score marked “con dol­cezza” to indi­cate “with sweet­ness.” The com­mon mark­ing would sim­ply be “dolce,” mean­ing “sweetly” or “softly.” I even looked up your term in both the Oxford and Har­vard music dic­tio­nar­ies and nei­ther of them con­tain the term. “Con dol­cezza” seems more culi­nary than musical.

    If her name was osten­si­bly an unin­ten­tional vari­ant of the term, musi­cal or not, it cer­tainly was a mis­read­ing. I might apply many descrip­tors to Dr. Rice, how­ever, “with sweet­ness” would not be among them.

  31. paddyo' said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    8-for-10 here … and yes, Fair­banks and Pick­ford tripped me up, too. That’s kinda embar­rass­ing since I once lived in an old-fashioned lit­tle apart­ment build­ing on the banks of the Truc­kee River in Reno (think “Day of the Locust” but smaller and not in L.A.) whose owner insisted that Pick­ford had lived there while get­ting the 1920 divorce that allowed her to marry her illicit lover … one Dou­glas Fair­banks Jr.

    (His­to­ri­ans have since made clear that Pick­ford never got the divorce in the Biggest Lit­tle City in the World, but hey, that’s entertainment … )

    As for GM — and not being a Detroi­ter, I’m behind the curve in auto indus­try knowl­edge — I was astounded in lis­ten­ing to an NPR report on the bailout pro­posal a cou­ple of days ago that GM man­age­ment has been in place since 1995 or ’96, I think it was? Wow, that’s, like, sev­eral life­times in today’s cor­po­rate cli­mate, auto­mo­tive or otherwise.

    What on Earth can those Bozos pos­si­bly be cling­ing to at this point? I’m with Ingras­sia. Toss ‘em.

  32. Rana said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    And what do the stock­ing­less women wear in win­ter? Thoughts?

    Pants!

    Or tights. Tights at least are sturdy enough to not run.

    But, yes, there is the pos­si­bil­ity that one’s legs are not up to the aes­thet­ics demanded, and many pumps don’t feel so good on bare feet (prob­a­bly why a lot of lit­tle footy socks have been show­ing up in the stores). This is part of the rea­son I look for­ward to fall — I can wear pants and let my legs do as they will.

  33. Dorothy said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    I like to wear tights in the win­ter!! And you’re right Jolene about the age of women going pantyhose-less. I’ll do it in sum­mer, if my legs are slightly tanned and if the out­fit suits the look. But I’m not gonna go bare legged with pale, spider-veiny legs at other times. Believe me, the world doesn’t want to see that. Hell, I don’t want to see that!

  34. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Hey, hey, hey — our vet­er­ans deserve bet­ter bed­pan care than that. Send ‘em to the Sen­ate cafe­te­ria to bus tables and peel spuds for those Free­dom Fries.

  35. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Dorothy: Spray tan. It’s not your father’s orange stuff anymore.

  36. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Re going to col­lege with Condi Rice, a friend of mine grad­u­ated from Prince­ton the same year as Michelle Obama. Her take on it is, “How come she grew up and I didn’t?”

    And I’m afraid I’m get­ting unwill­ingly sucked into fash­ion wor­ship of Michelle Obama. Did you see the dress she wore to meet the Bushes on Mon­day? Ab fab. It turns out there is a web­site for this wor­ship, where I spent half an hour yes­ter­day that I’m never get­ting back. Before you click, you were warned:
    http://​www​.mrs​-​o​.org/

  37. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    From peo­ple I know who claim to have known her in col­lege, there was noth­ing very dolce about her then. “Wound up too tightly” is a phrase that springs to mind. She was big on cold war/Russian stud­ies then. She also was a fig­ure skater and played clas­si­cal piano. I must have crossed paths with her. I was a poli/sci minor and our classes were in the same build­ing as the GSIS (grad school of inter­na­tional stud­ies). I don’t think she and I had much in com­mon other than the alma mater.

  38. brian stouder said on November 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Did you see the dress she wore to meet the Bushes on Monday?

    Clue­less male con­fes­sion: I watched the video of the Oba­mas meet­ing the Bushes on the porch at the White House, and as they posed for pic­tures, I thought there was some bad vibe or neg­a­tive body lan­guage going on. Michelle and Laura stood next to each other and seemed stiff, and then the First Lady seemed to actu­ally straight-arm or shunt the First Lady-elect.

    They ran the video again, and I called Pam to see, and she instantly said “Laura is con­cerned that their col­ors clash”.

    I said “Huh? Wha?” — and they ran the video loop again — and THEN I knew what Pam meant!

    Mrs Bush very briefly straight­ens her (clothed) arm next to Mrs Obama’s dress, and says some­thing (prob­a­bly “oh — this isn’t a good match!”) and then Mrs Obama is gra­ciously dis­mis­sive (prob­a­bly say­ing “oh — it’s fine”).

    It was like one of those opti­cal illu­sions; I would NEVER have under­stood those pic­tures the way Pam (or any other fash­ion con­scious per­son) did — but once it was pointed out to me, it was unmistakeable!

  39. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Yes, Brian, body lan­guage known only to other women and Tim Gunn. And the dresses could not have been more clashy. Bar­bara Bush looked very librarian-ish — don’t get me wrong, I LOVE librar­i­ans AND their look — but it just wasn’t her day fashionwise.

  40. Jeff Borden said on November 14th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    On the Detroit mess:

    In 1974, I got my first new car: a dark-brown Ply­mouth Satel­lite coupe with a vinyl roof and a 318 V-8. On deliv­ery, the pas­sen­ger door had a three-inch wide band of bare metal where the inte­rior pieces did not fit. The mono radio speaker in the dash­board buzzed and vibrated from the moment I drove it off the lot. Within six months, the cable attached to the lever on the heater/AC broke, the first of four times it would snap. Within four years, there was rust on both rear quar­ter pan­els. The dri­ve­train was good, excel­lent really, but the rest of the car was shite.

    In 1978, I pur­chased a brand new Honda Accord. Except for five years dri­ving a used Mit­subishi Galant, Honda prod­ucts are the only cars I’ve owned ever since. As a child­less cou­ple, we never had rea­son to buy a mini­van and I hate SUVs, so those cat­e­gories were left unex­plored when I’d scan the offer­ings of the Big Three. There was never any­thing in their line­ups to tempt me and I’m a pretty big car geek. Sure, the redesigned Mus­tang and Chal­lenger are sexy cars and prove the Motown guys can still pull off a great design now and then, but in terms of prac­ti­cal yet excit­ing trans­porta­tion likely to last more than 10 years and look good doing it, they have squat. Our 1999 Acura TL with almost 100K miles remains a dream to drive: quiet, respon­sive, solid. We fig­ure to take it to at least 150K miles and think we have a great shot at it.

    This is one of the largest prob­lems fac­ing the Big Three. There are gen­er­a­tions of folks like me who soured on Ford, GM and Chrysler a very long time ago. How do you win us back when we’ve been so well-served by our Hon­das, Toy­otas, Sub­arus, etc.???

  41. Dorothy said on November 14th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Brian I read some­thing some­where the other day on the web that said the two ladies were com­par­ing the autum­nal shades of their dresses. I believe Laura Bush was the first to com­ment on their dresses being a good look for fall or some­thing. I thought Laura looked dowdy next to the stun­ning Mrs. O.

  42. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    I think, deep down, there’s a more inter­est­ing, bet­ter dressed, less right wingy Laura Bush wait­ing to be freed from her alky hubby. Or maybe not, but I hope so.

  43. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Has any­one read Amer­i­can Wife, Cur­tis Sittenfeld’s imag­in­ing of Laura Bush’s life?

  44. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 14th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    When will Detroit make a TARDIS? If they could just mas­ter the con­tain­ment field for a sin­gu­lar­ity, we’d have no need of gas or oil or JP4.

  45. Gasman said on November 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Totally off topic. The migra­tion of the Sand­hill Cranes is in full swing. Our house is directly under the flight path for thou­sands of these giant birds. They use the Rio Grande to mark their way. They are quite majes­tic to behold. They alter­nate between goose-like V for­ma­tions and lazy cir­cles catch­ing ther­mals. This usu­ally means a cold snap is coming.

    As they are one of our con­ti­nents largest of birds, it pays to be care­ful when you look up.

  46. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Michelle Obama has the advan­tage of being a tall Capri­corn woman, an inher­ently classy bunch.

  47. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    “The swing of the wool coat, the bracelet length sleeve, the peek of del­i­cate fab­ric at the hem, the over­sized clutch. Mrs. O, you are sim­ply breathtaking.”

    That’s a quote from the Mrs. O web­site. I have an issue with the bracelet sleeve thing. If you are over say, 5’9″, you’ve had a life­time of sales­per­sons try­ing to con­vince you that some sleeve that is def­i­nitely NOT sup­posed to be bracelet length, is. I have a lot of bracelet sleeved sweaters. Right now I’m look­ing at that space between my watch­band and my sleeve, wish­ing there was a bracelet there to dis­play. But no, just freckly arm.

  48. Jolene said on November 14th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    More Michelle fashion-crack: The Post’s gos­sip col­umn, Reli­able Sources, has a link-filled item (Oba­ma­rama: Today in Future First Fam­ily News) that con­nects to lots of pic­tures of Michelle in var­i­ous out­fits, as well as advice from fash­ion experts and ideas for inau­gural gowns. At one link, I saw that sales of the out­fit Michelle wore on Jay Leno increased by more than 400 per­cent after her appear­ance. How’s that for an eco­nomic stimulus?!

  49. alex said on November 14th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Off topic—

    Just watched Wheel of For­tune while sip­ping a cock­tail and get­ting ready to nosh on left­overs and couldn’t help but notice that the child of one of the con­tes­tants is a girl named Malia. W of F is tour­ing in Hawaii this week.

    So it’s a Hawai­ian name, not ghetto, in case any­one else has been pon­der­ing it. It mightn’t have occurred to me except that I stud­ied Latin in board­ing school and today work at the inter­sec­tion of Law and Med­i­cine and any­thing with “mal” in it strikes me as the last thing you’d name a child, espe­cially if you were Ivy-League edu­cated people.

    Back to reg­u­lar pro­gram­ming. I think it’s Jeop­ardy at the moment.

  50. joodyb said on November 14th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    gas­man, i’m goin’ out on a limb here and bet con dolezza, being ital­ian, is from an opera score and not in plain musi­cal sight for many of us. which just makes it all the more twee in my highly invis­i­ble estimation.

    thanks, rana, until you said pendle­ton i was thinkin i don’t even have a hire-me suit any­more, but i real­ize i do. at least a win­ter one. which is prob­a­bly good.

    would be will­ing to barter poten­tial mar­ket­ing cam­paign for my new tardis, jttmo.

    There are tons of Malias here in the Twins, i’ve noticed over the years.

  51. del said on November 14th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    alex, your Hawaii story reminds me of a din­ner a few months ago. My 8 yr old daugh­ter was dis­cussing with our 7 yr old neigh­bor the best places to live. My daugh­ter said, “Florida, because it’s warm.” Neigh­bor said, “Hawaii, it’s warm too.” Daugh­ter said, “well at least they speak Eng­lish in Florida.” My wife then explained that they speak Eng­lish in Hawaii too. Daugh­ter arches her eye­brows and says, “ALOHA?!?…”

  52. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    I love the bracelet sleeve thing. Some­times, at 5’6″ but short­waisted, I buy the petite tops so my wrists can breathe and the waist is in the right place. Mary, it sounds like you are tall enough to pull off a big cuff bracelet. Christ­mas is com­ing, and the WSJ says that over​stock​.com is chock full o’ bargains.

  53. Deborah said on November 14th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    I’m 5′ 8″ but the bracelet sleeve never appealed to me. I’ve got a few in my closet but they mostly just hang there. They look great on Mrs. O. It’s not the look though, it’s the feel of it for me. I thought Michelle looked absolutely fab­u­lous in her tomato red dress while tour­ing the white house. Mrs. Bush looked quite dowdy in com­par­i­son. I loved Jackie Kennedy, as a young­ster she was def­i­nitely a role model for me.

  54. Jen said on November 14th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Mmmm. Adrien Brody is very yummy eye-candy, in a very inter­est­ing way. As far as eye-candy goes, I like a man with some inter­est­ing fea­tures. He def­i­nitely fits the bill on that! Julie Robin­son was right — the eye­brows are part of it, too, not just the nose. And, he’s a pretty darn good actor, too!

  55. Dorothy said on November 14th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Just yes­ter­day I was telling my old­est sis­ter that I think David Straithairn is sexy. She wasn’t seein’ it, but agreed that he’s a good actor.

    And the bracelet sleeve? That’s bull­shit. It means you need a tall girl/woman size with sleeves that are appro­pri­ately long enough. I am 5’9″ and rarely have I found coats with the sleeves long enough for me. I com­pen­sate with longish gloves like Iso­ton­ers in the wintertime.

  56. Dexter said on November 14th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Wail…bein’ a Hoosier for the first half of my life , I must com­ment on HBO’s “Dirty Dri­ving: Thun­der­cars of Indi­ana”.
    Many thou­sands of HBO sub­scribers are going to think we’re the red­dest damn peo­ple in the nation. Con­fed­er­ate flags on the cars and on sleeves, very south­ern drawls spo­ken with many vul­gar words in every sentence…this thing is some­thing else.
    It’s about Ander­son, Indi­ana, the peo­ple who live there in post-GM Ander­son, and the race track, where home-built cars are raced on week­ends.
    Where does the extreme south­ern drawl start, geo­graph­i­cally?
    The peo­ple in Fort Wayne don’t all talk that way, and Ander­son is just a cou­ple hours south.
    I’ll tell ya folks, you watch this docu and you’ll keep say­ing “OMG just LOOK at those HILLBILLIES!“
    I kept think­ing it must really be some­where like Alabama or at least the Car­oli­nas …nope…that big-ass Ander­son water tower keeps con­firm­ing that this is Ander­son.
    It’s bit­ingly hard to view some scenes of entire blocks and entire shop­ping cen­ters and gas sta­tions just aban­doned, let alone all the fac­to­ries that are derelict there…GM has closed the last remain­ing GM plant and the satel­lite smaller plants are shut­ter­ing one-by-one.
    This is a strange documentary…I feel like writ­ing ‘stay away from this at all costs’, but another part of me says ‘if you want to take a peek into Bush’s Amer­ica, watch this sad-ass film’.

  57. alex said on November 14th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Larry Flint knew just what but­tons to push in the south, hence the suc­cess of Hus­tler. I think Baba Wawa is his great­est imi­ta­tor with respect to the midwest.

    I’m too jaded to be able to expe­ri­ence it exactly as they do, but what a tit­il­lat­ing night it must be for the cit­i­zens of north­east Indi­ana. Not only have they just seen the first black pres­i­dent come to pass, hor­ror of hor­rors, but they’re hav­ing to endure a sym­pa­thetic doc­u­men­tary about the “preg­nant man.”

    You couldn’t write bet­ter com­edy. There is a God, yes.

    Edit: And on tonight’s local news, What to do if you come across a meth lab in a two-liter Pepsi bot­tle when you’re walk­ing down the street…

    Think it might be a lib­eral media con­spir­acy to make tight-asses keel over with coronaries?

  58. LA Mary said on November 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Two of my cowork­ers and I have reached con­sen­sus on who on TV is sexy. Anthony Bour­dain. I don’t care that he smokes.

  59. Cosmo Panzini said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Dex, your instincts are on the mark re the Thun­der­cars doc. So obvi­ously con­trived, you have to won­der who the hell could believe it.

  60. Catherine said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Alan Rick­man. Sim­i­lar nose + eye­brows + tal­ent = sexy.

    And, y’all can throw things and deride me all you want, but isn’t Henry Paul­son a lit­tle bit sexy? In a totally hate­ful way, of course.

  61. Rana said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Ooo. Alan Rickman.

    Gas­man — I’m actu­ally going on a field trip this week­end to see the cranes — it’s this won­der­ful thing where some alum­nus of the col­lege in town donated money to be used for out­door edu­ca­tion, for any­one in the com­mu­nity, and so the vans, hous­ing and food are free! not to men­tion the experts going along to tell us what’s what. (Although I don’t have any doubts that I’ll be able to fig­ure out which bird is the crane!)

  62. Gasman said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    joodyb,
    Nearly all musi­cal direc­tion is in Ital­ian, even in Cyril­lic Russ­ian scores. Some French and Ger­man com­posers use their ver­nac­u­lar, but about 90% is in Ital­ian. The direc­tions in the opera scores are no dif­fer­ent, it’s the same ter­mi­nol­ogy. For about seven years now, I work part of the year for an opera com­pany. I’ve lived with many opera scores, and trust me, their ain’t no “con del­cezza” to be found in any of them. It’s just not a musi­cal term.

    Rana,
    We’ll be going to see the cranes at the tail end (no pun intended) of the Fes­ti­val of Cranes at Bosque del Apache south of Albu­querque. They are amaz­ing ani­mals, espe­cially in the quan­ti­ties that you see them dur­ing migra­tion time.

  63. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Hoosier-wise, the south begins at US 40/Washington St. (for those in Indy), but there are more northerly intru­sions of south­er­ness, mainly Kain­tuck­ians who came up dur­ing the 30’s to work in them auto plant places — Ander­son is cer­tainly one of ‘em.

    Kokomo was Klan-ridden in the 20’s, as was Elwood and Mar­ion and Gas City, but that’s north­ern nasty angry anti-black, anti-catlikker, anti-polack kind of KKK. South­ern­ness is not coter­mi­nous with racism, con­trary to pop­u­lar belief, not that they don’t cohabit fairly easily.

  64. brian stouder said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    isn’t Henry Paul­son a lit­tle bit sexy?

    To me he looks like a cross between Mr Clean’s older brother, and Lex Luther.

    And have you noticed that his neck­ties all look over-sized? The knot is big, the tie looks XL, the col­lar of his shirt looks over­sized, and then his nose is big… reminds me of the Bald­win char­ac­ter from The Departed that the Prop Mis­tress quoted a few weeks back; he seems to radi­ate the idea that he has a large tool at his diposal. (and indeed, with count­less bil­lions of dol­lars at his ready com­mand, he does!)

    As for women, the unique vis­age of the woman Alex linked to was indeed quite nice. Sim­i­larly, back in the day McKen­zie Phillips’ (spelling?) indi­vid­ual beauty off­set Valerie Bertinelli’s con­ven­tional cuteness.

    ‘Course, I always irri­tate the young ladies here­abouts, when we read a book or see a show that fea­tures one of Disney’s evil queens, and I make a remark about how she’s a lot pret­tier than whichever of their heroic princesses is in the story

    PS — As a life-long Hoosier, I will say that we can­not vouch for any­one south of Muncie (MunTucky), when it comes to Hilljacks

  65. Jolene said on November 14th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    Alan Rick­man, indeed. It’s the voice.

  66. MichaelG said on November 15th, 2008 at 1:13 am

    Mary, Tony Bour­dain quit smok­ing six months or so ago.

    Mon­ica Bellucci.

  67. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 15th, 2008 at 8:05 am

    That’d do it.

  68. Montag said on November 15th, 2008 at 8:46 am

    I can tell by the gen­eral tenor of this dis­cus­sion that it will all come down to the following:

    Do we have the guts to watch unem­ploy­ment climb past 10% in 4 months?

    Do we actu­ally have such absolute faith in Free Mar­ket that we think the even­tual out­come will be better?

    Are so-called free mar­kets the ser­vants of free men and women, or are they the freely act­ing gods of slaves?

    There is absolutely no guar­an­tee the future will be made bet­ter by these same free maets which have pro­duced the present deba­cle.
    So what do you have faith in?

    I per­son­ally think that if I must be damned, damn me for help­ing work­ing men and women, no mat­ter how dis­gust­ing the man­age­ment of those com­pa­nies is.
    That man­age­ment, after all, has been no more odi­ous, no more repel­lent, no more stu­pid than the present gov­ern­ment and the bank­ing industry…

    We had bet­ter think long and hard of whom is to be the tar­get of wrath, lest it be ourselves.

  69. Jim said on November 15th, 2008 at 10:10 am

    We didn’t call Kendal­lville “Kendall­tucky” for nothing.

  70. jcburns said on November 15th, 2008 at 10:18 am

    Madi­son County Indi­ana, home of Ander­son, went Obama 53 – 46%, accord­ing to CNN. So they may have their Con­fed­er­ate flags, but they seem to want some change, too. An auto plant clos­ing or two will do that to you.

  71. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 15th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Re: Bour­dain, it turns out his smok­ing ces­sa­tion pro­gram is named Ottavia Busia, more to the point their daugh­ter, Ariane.

    But i’m happy for them all, regard­less; does this also mean he doesn’t eat fer­mented shark fin or sheep eye­balls any­more, either? If i were going to eat some offal, i’d con­sider tak­ing up cig­ars or the stray Amer­i­can Spirit just to take the edge off.

  72. Danny said on November 15th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Mary, any fires close to you? Hope not.

  73. Deborah said on November 15th, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Gas­man,

    You must work for the Santa Fe Opera! How cool. We try to go to at least one pro­duc­tion every year. What instru­ment do you play? We are only in NM for one week dur­ing opera sea­son and this com­ing year we are going to Fin­land instead of NM at that time. We try to go to NM 4 times a year, once in each sea­son. Have never seen the cranes. Hope to some­day when we move there.

  74. brian stouder said on November 15th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    OK –speak­ing of shiny objects, I have a ques­tion — stem­ming from an arti­cle about an “Obama baby boom”

    http://​www​.newsweek​.com/​i​d​/​169073

    an excerpt:

    Hope and eupho­ria, says Uni­ver­sity of Wash­ing­ton soci­ol­o­gist Pep­per Schwartz, are a seri­ous aphro­disiac. And vot­ers under 30 went for Obama by a mar­gin of 2 to 1. When you com­bine those two ele­ments — randy peo­ple of child-bearing age — the likely result is what the online Urban Dic­tio­nary has already dubbed “Obama Babies” : chil­dren “con­ceived after Obama was pro­claimed Pres­i­dent, by way of cel­e­bra­tory sex.

    But hon­estly, isn’t ALL sex, almost by def­i­n­i­tion, ‘cel­e­bra­tory’??! (or maybe the term ‘cel­e­bra­tory sex’ sounds redun­dant only to old mar­ried guys, eh?)

  75. Dexter said on November 15th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Well…there was a baby boom nine months after 9 – 11-01.
    I had to have it explained to me that peo­ple cling to each other and have sex after tragic events , too…not just won­der­ful events. After the air­planes took down the WTC, peo­ple rec­on­ciled their losses by hop­ping into the sack.
    I remem­ber that day well, and I sat star­ing at the TV all day until I had to leave for work at 10 PM…no sleep that day at all.
    If ever there was a term that fits: “dif­fer­ent strokes for dif­fer­ent folks.“
    Actu­ally, I might not have believed this whole angle , but at the time I was blog­ging back and forth with a bunch of New Yorkers…they con­firmed it, and I just doubt all of them were bull­shit­ting me — I just had a dif­fi­cult time grasp­ing it.

  76. LA Mary said on November 15th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    No fires near here, Danny. Syl­mar was the clos­est and that’s a good 15 – 20 miles away. I’ll be glad when this heat wave is over. The weath­er­man is say­ing things will cool down on monday.

  77. Julie Robinson said on November 15th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Hey Dorothy – I’ve got the same prob­lem with coat sleeves as you, but in addi­tion to gorilla arms I’ve also got man hands (isn’t my hubby lucky?). Iso­toner doesn’t make a size big enough, so I usu­ally sew some fab­ric into the sleeve ends, or even a few rows of cro­cheted fab­ric. I’ve been doing this for the last 10 years after a life­time of cold wrists and I’m just SO pleased with myself.

  78. Jolene said on November 15th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    The images of the fires in Cal­i­for­nia are really some­thing. Mayor Vil­laraigosa is on CNN say­ing that a 500-unit mobile home park has gone up in flames. Horrible.

  79. Dexter said on November 15th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    dart­ing back and forth with top­ics on this thread:
    Jeff Bor­den wrote of his “shite” Ply­mouth Satel­lite.
    I also bought my first new car in 1974. I bought a Ford Pinto wagon . As I drove it off the lot , for the first time I noticed the entire steer­ing col­umn was at a promi­nent angle, maybe 12 degrees to the right. When I test drove it, I didn’t really notice it, but then I did. I drove straight back and demanded to look at another car like mine…sure enough, the other two he had were straight-columned. I told hm I wanted one of the other cars and he could send mine back to be fixed. No dice…he told me there was noth­ing to be done…it was crooked and it is what it is, more or less.
    My next new car was a 1977 Honda Civic CVCC…advertised at 47 mpg…it got 35 mpg..oh well. That’s a lot bet­ter than most cars, 32 model years later.

  80. Deborah said on November 15th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    My hus­band called his daugh­ter in Ana­heim, CA to say that it was snow­ing in Chicago (only for about 2 sec­onds), she responded that it was rain­ing ashes in her neigh­bor­hood. A fire is occur­ring about 15 min­utes from where they live. Yikes!

  81. Gasman said on November 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Deb­o­rah,
    Indeed, I do work for the Santa Fe Opera from time to time. From 2000 – 2003, I was their Audio Engi­neer and was at every rehearsal and per­for­mance. I guess I’ve been there about 700 times. My instru­ment is clas­si­cal gui­tar and I was in their 2000 off sea­son pro­duc­tion of “The Beggar’s Opera” as part of the orches­tra. It was an onstage role for the whole pro­duc­tion, so the small 8 piece “orches­tra” had to be in costume.

    Now, I do mostly edu­ca­tional stuff for the SFO. Today we just wrapped up our “Opera Makes Sense” pro­gram for 3 – 5 year olds and their par­ents. Great fun. Occa­sion­ally I’ve done lec­tures for them. I also co-teach a class on each season’s SFO pro­duc­tions at the Uni­ver­sity of New Mex­ico — Los Alamos.

    As the back­stage gig aver­aged 12 – 16 hours per day, I doubt if I’ll be doing that again. How­ever, the orches­tra and edu­ca­tional gigs are much more fun and I get way more sleep.

    If you move to NM, sign up for my class. We’ve always got­ten free tick­ets to at least on dress rehearsal. Plus, I know where many bod­ies are buried backstage.

  82. moe99 said on November 15th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    my first car was a Chevy Chevette in 76 (don’t I win a prize for worst car?). When you turned on the air­con­di­ton­ing you were down to two cylin­ders. Luck­ily it only lasted two years for me. I went off to Europe for a year’s worth of school and came back and was car-less in DC for another year and a half. Moved out to Seat­tle in ’81 in a 69 Ply­mouth that had a slant six in it. Finally got a VW rab­bit after the bat­tery in the Ply­mouth died one too many times and that lasted for a long, long time. Cur­rent car is an Out­back wagon, which gets ter­ri­ble gas mileage but oth­er­wise is a great car.

  83. brian stouder said on November 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Say — another bright shiny bauble -

    Grant and I attended David Baldacci’s lec­ture Fri­day evening at IPFW, wherein he held forth on writ­ing books and movie scripts, and his efforts in adult lit­er­acy pro­grams, and var­i­ous other anec­dotes and amus­ing sto­ries, and so on.

    He was an inter­est­ing and enter­tain­ing speaker — even if one quickly loses count how many times he refers to him­self (by name!). No kid­ding — and noth­ing wrong with a healthy ego when one has con­quered the thin air and reached the moun­tain top of Best Sell­er­dom (repeat­edly, as he will tell you) –but he must have enun­ci­ated his own name at least 40 times in the course of his hour long talk.

    One funny anec­dote was about a book sign­ing he was con­duct­ing just before Christ­mas a few years back, where two women approached, and one asked for a unique inscrip­tion; she had rebuffed her boyfriend’s pro­pos­als of mar­riage three times in the past year, and she wanted to sig­nal him that she was now ready to marry him. The guy was a huge David Bal­dacci fan and had read every Bal­dacci book, and he would love get­ting Baldacci’s newest title at Christmas.…and would he (Bal­dacci) please write in there that she was now ready to live the rest of her life with him (the boyfriend)?

    So — David Bal­dacci begins writ­ing in the woman’s book — and the Christ­mas spirit moves him to write and write and write!! He cov­ers three pages, extolling the time­less­ness of love and how life moves so quickly, and how one has to sieze the moment, etc etc — 

    and then he signs it and the women beam and go hap­pily on their way.….and then he gets to think­ing about what he just did.

    And then — he says a prayer to God, some­thing along the lines of “Dear Lord — please don’t let that woman ruin that fellow’s life; Please make sure she’s half as good as I said she was”.

    And then he related how now, at every book sign­ing, he’s about half affraid that a dis­grun­tled man seek­ing ven­gence upon him will appear!

    Any­way — David Baldacci’s talk about the life and work of David Bal­dacci was fun, and Grant espe­cially enjoyed David Baldacci’s anec­dotes about the Secret Ser­vice and FBI guys that David Bal­dacci has met, and how he has fired all sorts of weapons (so as to prop­erly describe them in his books).

    After that, it was off to get some ice cream, and call it a night.

    Next up is Hal Hol­brook as Mark Twain (in Jan­u­ary); the price is still right (free!) — but his 2 hour show neces­si­tates a 7 pm start. I am antic­i­pat­ing a gen­uine goat-roping for that one, so the young folks and I will make tracks as early as pos­si­ble (my hope is that Pam will come with us for that one, but we’ll see)

  84. nancy said on November 15th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    Brian, I couldn’t think why David Baldacci’s name rang a bell, and then I remembered:

    Jon Car­roll doesn’t like him.

  85. brian stouder said on November 15th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Thanks, Nance — that Jon Car­roll piece was great!

    And indeed, Bal­dacci appar­ently writes the way he speaks…

  86. Catherine said on November 15th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Moe, I’m afraid it might be a tie. My first car was a ’76 Chevette too. It was pow­der blue and the list of mechan­i­cal prob­lems is lengthy but let’s leave it at this one: By the time I got rid of it (sold is too strong a word), I had to add a quart of oil every other time I filled up the gas tank.

  87. beb said on November 15th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    I believe I can top Cather­ine and Moe, since my first car was a Chevy Nova. The first they built with an alu­minum engine block. Peo­ple told me to trade it in before 50,000 miles because that’s when the engine died. Tried it in for a Chevette. Which mind you, I liked.

  88. Dorothy said on November 15th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    YESSSSSS to Alan Rick­man! It is cer­tainly the voice. And who the hell is Henry Paulson?

    Tony Bour­dain is okay. But Jon Hamm is offi­cially now on my list of guys-I-wouldn’t-mind-looking-at-for-the-rest-of-my-life.

  89. brian stouder said on November 15th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    And who the hell is Henry Paulson?

    In the absence of an act­ing pres­i­dent, Trea­sury Sec­re­tary Henry Paul­son is arguably the most con­se­quen­tially pow­er­ful per­son in the gov­ern­ment of the United States, these days

  90. Dexter said on November 15th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

  91. Ricardo said on November 16th, 2008 at 1:56 am

    The Yorba Linda and Ana­heim Hills fires are very close to my house. The wind was blow­ing the smoke (and embers) pretty much due west instead of at my neigh­bor­hood which is south­west of today’s fire. I got some dra­matic pho­tos. Last year’s San­ti­ago fires were east of my house and we got all of the smoke and ashes, but no embers. Each year it seems like it is hot, dry, and windy later and later in the year. Usu­ally, by Novem­ber I have the fur­nace pilot lit, but not for the last two years.

    The Syl­mar fire, Mon­ticeto, YL, AH, San­ti­ago fires, and those big ones a few years ago in San Berna­dion county have one thing in com­mon, the homes are built in areas that abut wide open and wild land. The home are built there because of sprawl that pushes fur­ther and fur­ther out, and because it is desir­able and scenic place to put an expen­sive home. My home is on a city block in a sub­ur­ban town that doesn’t get so many floods, fires, or earth­quake prob­lems. Dull, but I have lower insur­ance rates. Ana­heim Hills was built in the 70’s and they had a lot of prob­lems with poorly com­pacted earth under the houses caus­ing land­slides and foun­da­tion cracks, now they get the fires.

    Ana­heim is seper­ated from Ana­heim Hills, by my town, Orange. Ana­heim proper is a flat, older city, but AH was built very quickly and the devel­op­ers are long gone. I could never under­stand why peo­ple pay a pre­mium to live in a place with so many prob­lems. The Yorba Linda homes burnt were the fur­thest ones up in the hills and the newest. For a few hours today there was zero water pres­sure in the exact places where the houses were burn­ing, and the fire­fight­ers just had to let them burn. I’d be plenty angry at that if it were my $2,000,000 house burnt up.

    On a dif­fer­ent note, I got a new GMC Canyon pickup this year with a 4 cylin­der engine. It has good mileage (22mpg) and plenty of power (190hp) with variable-valve tim­ing. It takes 7 quarts of oil at a change, so some thought went into its design. I drive a lot to my com­mute and haul stuff at times, so it seemed like the per­fect choice. Now, I still have my ’84 Buick Estate and I like dri­ving it. We took it to Las Vegas last Christ­mas with the big dogs in the back. Then I parked it dur­ing the gas price spike, it still had Las Vegas gas in the tank until last week when I finally could afford to put some in the tank. There is still noth­ing like dri­ving a large Detroit lux­ury boat, but the qual­ity just wasn’t there in the cars built in the 70s, nor in the lit­tle Detroit cars.

  92. Jolene said on November 16th, 2008 at 4:09 am

    Here’s a Robin Givhan piece re the inter­play of appear­ance and accom­plish­ment. The arti­cle was prompted by the recent Glam­our Women of the Year awards, the event that led Condi to adopt the new hairdo we noticed a few days ago. It’s not Givhan’s absolute best work, but it did make me feel less guilty about the dis­cus­sion we’ve been hav­ing re the fash­ion choices of famous women — espe­cially Mrs. Obama.

    And, by the way, the new First Cou­ple is being inter­viewed on 60 Min­utes this PM — for the Obama groupies among us.

  93. alex said on November 16th, 2008 at 8:14 am

    But hon­estly, isn’t ALL sex, almost by def­i­n­i­tion, ‘celebratory’?

    All unmar­ried sex. Oth­er­wise it’s obligatory.

  94. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 16th, 2008 at 8:20 am

    Ricardo, may your life stay dull! And slightly damp…

  95. coozledad said on November 16th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Alex: You’ve been talk­ing to my wife again, haven’t you?

  96. Catherine said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Ricardo, stay safe. Typ­i­cal fall in SoCal, as you said, but it still sucks.

    It is spook­ily clear and calm in Pasadena, barely a hint of smoke in the air (less than yes­ter­day, even). The orga­niz­ers can­celled the marathon sched­uled for today, more out of con­cern for fire vic­tims than air qual­ity, it would seem.

  97. Jolene said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    The NYT has another “where will the Obama girls go to school” story, which is dif­fer­ent from the ear­lier ones only in that it con­tains this incred­i­bly sweet sen­tence, uttered by a schoolkid who met Michelle Obama on one of her vis­its: I touched her hand and she smelled like cherries.

  98. Jolene said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    As you may have seen, both CNN and MSNBC have had spe­cials com­mem­o­rat­ing (or, at least, remind­ing us of) the Jon­estown mas­sacre, which hap­pened thirty years ago this week.

    Hav­ing been reminded of the hor­ri­ble­ness that can ensue when charis­matic lead­ers put them­selves in charge, I was really struck by this story about an author­i­tar­ian, self-indulgent pas­tor of a Pen­te­costal church in the NoVa suburbs.

    The sit­u­a­tion is not as extreme as the Jon­estown case, but it’s got all the stan­dard fea­tures of orga­ni­za­tions that are over­taken by lead­ers more inter­ested in power and plea­sure than in the well-being of their mem­bers: pres­sure to make large finan­cial con­tri­bu­tions, divi­sions in fam­i­lies when some mem­bers raise doubts, decision-making by a cen­tral, unac­count­able fig­ure, and on and on.

    This is such an old story. I found it a lit­tle shock­ing and also incred­i­bly sad that peo­ple would have such a need to belong and to believe that they would sur­ren­der their abil­ity to think for them­selves and sac­ri­fice their most inti­mate rela­tion­ships. Stun­ning, really.

  99. Jolene said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    It appears that there’s been quite a lot of sex in Fayet­teville, NC lately, whether cel­e­bra­tory or not isn’t clear, but the results are impres­sive either way.

  100. Catherine said on November 16th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Jolene, I’m about 4 links behind, but thanks for the Robin Givhan piece. I do feel less guilty! — and now any­time I want to snark I can just invoke “the semi­otics of attire.”

  101. Jolene said on November 16th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Cather­ine, did you see the stun­ning Annie Liebovitz pic­ture at the Mrs. O site? Semi­otics, indeed!

  102. del said on November 16th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Off topic to upthread. I owned a ’74 Ply­mouth Satel­lite too; ran great for years, even when turned off. Remem­ber run on engines? A mechanic told me to “open it up” on the high­way to burn off the car­bon build up in the cylin­ders. The car only reached a top speed of 88 miles an hour, but it worked. And the thing never died —  I even­tu­ally just gave it away.

  103. Suzi said on November 16th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Hey Gas­man, Indi­ana has some won­der­ful crane watch­ing sites dur­ing their fall migra­tion. The Jasper Pulaski State Fish & Wildlife Area site:
    http://​www​.in​.gov/​d​n​r​_​o​l​d​/​f​i​s​h​w​i​l​d​/​p​u​b​l​i​c​a​t​i​o​n​s​/​s​c​r​a​n​es.htm
    has info about bird counts and best spot­ting sites within the park. It’s a long drive from Ft Wayne — about 4 hours if I remem­ber cor­rectly, but an amaz­ing expe­ri­ence if you appre­ci­ate wildlife.
    We’ve seen small groups of these big guys in Upper Michi­gan in late sum­mer over the last few years — seem to be doing well in this part of the country.

  104. LA Mary said on November 16th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Cather­ine, is it still not smoky there? It was ter­ri­ble here last night. We closed all the win­dows and turned on the AC for the fil­ter­ing ben­e­fits.
    What Ricardo said is true. The inhab­ited areas that burn are the ones most recently devel­oped and built next to hilly, unde­vel­oped areas. My cowork­ers from Santa Clarita and ther­abouts have lots of square feet of house, swim­ming pools and all that stuff, but they also have had to evac­u­ate twice this year. Give my my funky city neigh­bor­hood anytime.

  105. Catherine said on November 16th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Mary, it is get­ting very smoky now. We are run­ning AC too, and get­ting that oddly golden light. Think open­ing cred­its of The Rock­ford Files. I’m try­ing not to think of the ash falling in my yard as lit­tle burned pieces of people’s mobile homes.

  106. Ricardo said on November 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Or think of the album cover from Tim Buckley’s “Greet­ings From LA”, photo taken from around 1971. It is a giant post card with a nar­ra­tive about smog on the inside. I actu­ally knew some­one that moved to Pasadena in the 1970s that lived on Foothill Blvd for 9 months before he found out why it was called Foothill Blvd. When we finally get some rain, all the soil washes away because there is no veg­e­ta­tion to hold it in.

    The OC fire moved along Chino Hills over to Dia­mond Bar and Car­bon Canyon, a place I really like. They are hold­ing the fire at the 57 fwy for now. If it jumps over, then it is on to Row­land Heights and La Habra Heights to Whit­tier and Turn­bull Canyon. That would not be good.

  107. Rana said on November 16th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Hey Gas­man, Indi­ana has some won­der­ful crane watch­ing sites dur­ing their fall migra­tion. The Jasper Pulaski State Fish & Wildlife Area site:
    http://​www​.in​.gov/​d​n​r​_​o​l​d​/​f​i​s​h​w​i​l​d​/​p​u​b​l​i​c​a​t​i​o​n​s​/​s​c​r​a​n​es.htm
    has info about bird counts and best spot­ting sites within the park. It’s a long drive from Ft Wayne — about 4 hours if I remem­ber cor­rectly, but an amaz­ing expe­ri­ence if you appre­ci­ate wildlife.

    This is the very place we went! I can attest to it being an amaz­ing expe­ri­ence — by the time the sun set, there were around 10,000 cranes clus­tered in the marshy area below the obser­va­tion tower. There was also a sin­gle whoop­ing crane in the mid­dle — aston­ish­ing — and the air was full of birds and their trilling, bur­bling calls. Def­i­nitely worth the drive!

  108. Dexter said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Ricardo…how bad did Chino Hills get it? My wife’s cousin who vis­its us every year lives there and he ain’t answer­ing his phone…
    LA Times online has some great pho­tos and great cov­er­age of the fires…their map basi­cally shows our cousin’s address under a big red roar­ing flame.
    Yes­ter­day they had livestream­ing KTLA news.
    I also have a cou­ple friends in Canoga Park … the maps seem to show they are safe.

  109. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    88 miles an hour? That’s some seri­ous … ahem.

  110. Dexter said on November 16th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Fastest car I ever owned was a 1967 Dodge two door sedan.
    I bought it when it was 16 years old for a tem­po­rary go-to-work car in 1983. It had the 383 motor with a bore of 4.03 and stroke of 3.75. It was easy to tune up.
    Once I had it going 118 mph and I had lots of throt­tle space left, but I backed off. I was going to try to top my fastest speed ever, 124 mph in a 1959 Buick that belonged to my buddy’s dad. So when I was dri­ving, 118 is my per­sonal high.
    Now I drive like my dad did when he was in his fifties…I haven’t hit 65 mph since I was on a free­way two weeks ago.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    A few days ago we were dis­cussing coy­otes . Yes, I saw coy­otes dur­ing my 3-decades long com­mute through very rural roads. I also saw prob­a­bly a thou­sand deer, rab­bits by the score, rac­coons, many pheas­ants, wood­chucks, at times a loose cow or horse, opos­sums, chick­ens , geese, ducks, one time I almost clob­bered a loose sheep, I ran over a large blue racer snake as it was slink­ing across a road – thump thump! – but I never saw a pig wan­der­ing about a roadway.

  111. caliban said on November 17th, 2008 at 1:50 am

    Fastest car you ever owned? Fastest car I ever drove and how fast I drove it. Z-28, and about 140 mph on Wood­ward Avenue. Ever owned? Maxda 626 pn the way out the Mass Pike to be in time for my daugh­ter to make it to the world on time. You can’t drive faster than that. There’s a story, too, but all I was think­ing was blow­ing it out and I couldn’t get a ticket.

    I think War­ren Zevon was think­ing about Tim Buck­ley, Ricardo. I had to call some­body long-distance. I said join me in LA.

    Maybe James Gar­ner was just Mav­er­ick. Smart, hand­some and the long con. Seems to res­onate. Once Sam Adams and the bomb-wielders were done, it took tall tales, buf­falo guns and Fend­ers. It’s an MC5 song.

    But Gib­sons were always bet­ter guitars.

    Dex­ter. I’ve seen pigs on the high­way. I think coy­otes might make up for that. Some sort of nat­ural herd­ing device, and they might eat lag­gards. Or the coy­otes will get them. Or the red­necks surely will. The prob­lem on the roads is the armadillo. They don’t move very fast, so they’re pos­sum on the half-shell. Aphro­disiac for coyotes.

    If preda­tor species return, homo sapi­ens has to root for the wolves, not the bears. Bears don’t give a shit, but sup­pos­edly you can make your­self look big and make a lot of noise.

  112. brian stouder said on November 17th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Fastest car you ever owned?

    Choco­late brown 1971 Olds Cut­lass Supreme 2-door, with a lovely ‘his/hers’ Hurst-Olds trans­mis­sion (you could put it in D, or else shift it over into a par­al­lel slot, and go from 1st to 2nd to 3rd to 4th, with no clutch).

    I once got that car up over 96 mph, and then she started to shimmy, in a pretty ter­ri­fy­ing way! — so I eeeeeased up on her.

    Had that car for 6 weeks, until the after­noon that a guy on Cal­houn Street turned left right in front of me, as I was tak­ing a girl home from South Side (he was try­ing to get into the McDon­alds that is no longer there, east of South­gate). I was going 35 mph, and smashed into his new Ford Granada. Turned out he was an insur­ance salesman!

    Every­one was OK — but Julie never went for another ride with me, and that was the end of the ’71 Cutlass

  113. caliban said on November 17th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    How is it great to baIl out AIG but GM ia nthem. And Ford says we don’t want you’re money. You can be all Sarah all the time.

    You can’t be that fuck­ing stu­pid. I am a moron and this is my wige. She is frst­ing a cake with paper knife.

    So, she isn;t a despi­ca­ble bitch? She bagged fidelity. It’s OK to lie your ass off.