Dogs and how they sleep.

A restless night last night, which meant a gritty-eyed morning. When I really can’t sleep and know it’s going to be a while before I can, I move to the guest room. Wendy moves with me. She jumps up on the bed — forbidden elsewhere — and makes herself comfortable. Sometimes she cuddles up to my back; sometimes she’s down at my feet. Inevitably, though, come morning? She’s smack in the middle of the bed and I am clinging to the side. This is how it always ended up when Kate was a toddler, too. How do they manage that? I think it’s by asserting the rights of the innocent to take all the damn space they want. If you needed the middle of the bed, you’d be there, right? Dogs and kids need that space.

As you can see from that bang-up beginning, it was a long day in the saddle today. I watched the temperature fall as the wind picked up and had that mournful spring experience of closing the windows for a chilly day following a warm night. Tried and failed to get a bike ride in, although the day was salvaged with dinner with friends passing through town. Fortunately, there’s some pretty good bloggage.

I don’t know how you can fail to love a story that includes an old man trying to hit a reporter with a crutch, an antisemitic mayor who says he’s “hurt” to be called antisemitic, the quote “I personally know and love a Jew” and a local establishment called the Hillbilly Gas Mart, and if you do, come and sit by me.

The American middle class is no longer the world’s richest. Quel surprise.

Mumps are on the rise at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Again: Quel surprise. Yes, there’s a vaccine.

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82 responses to “Dogs and how they sleep.”

  1. Sherri said on April 23, 2014 at 3:01 am

    Seventy years later, they’re still finding unexploded bombs from WWII bombing raids: http://www.stripes.com/news/tens-of-thousands-to-evacuate-italian-city-as-wwii-blockbuster-bomb-defused-1.278684

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  2. Dexter said on April 23, 2014 at 3:46 am

    Poor Mary Jo, she tried to incorporate the great American practice of second chance, but she was shouted down, and old Clevenger resigned after stinging remarks, and the good people weren’t buying that after a ten year history of verbal anti-antisemitism, spouted from Miller’s book, Clevenger was truly repentant.
    Why by gawd, it was “almost verbatim”, and that’s purdy damn close to exact. 🙂
    Sittin’ around with a wool cap on my head and a sweatshirt on my back, I had to kick up the furnace a few notches. It feels very cold “up in here”.

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  3. jerry said on April 23, 2014 at 4:15 am

    Sue (#30 yesterday): I check in and read most days but given the time difference I’m trying to respond today rather than yesterday (if you see what I mean). The show is set in Northumberland/Durham (unlike the books which are set in Norfolk – very different). The truth is that there is still a good deal of Britain which hasn’t been redeveloped. They were often dark and squalid places. My guess would be that for the 1960s there are still plenty of places around which have been little touched since those days. I can remember there still being bombsites around in 1959/60’s suburban London; they were places where children could play away from parental (dis)approval.

    In an earlier post Brian mentioned enjoying the UK Shameless. We loved the early series but felt it went on too long and we dropped out before the series concluded. I would like to take the chance to point out that my life bears little resemblance to that of Frank Gallagher!

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  4. Wim said on April 23, 2014 at 5:43 am

    I must say I’m surprised Clevenger didn’t keep doubling down. But, then, I was surprised by the guy going to bring his black son-in-law back to the meeting for the benefit of the kid who had never seen any black people in Marionville. (I do wonder how that came up). There’s just too much there to unpack. Back when I knew the region a quarter-century past, none of these guys would have admitted to having a black son-in-law, let alone have brought one to show-and-tell. So…progress, we have to take it as we find it.

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  5. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on April 23, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Mumps are big in central Ohio right now — started on the OSU campus, but it popping up in academic/young adult clusters elsewhere this week (Columbus State, OSU Newark). Thanks, Jenny McCarthy.

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  6. David C. said on April 23, 2014 at 7:42 am

    Well, according to the article about the UWM students, they all had the vaccine when they were children. Still according the CDC, the vaccine is only 95% effective, so it’s not too surprising that some get it. Of course, herd immunity should take care of most of the other 5%. I always find it amazing that only two or three generations removed from the time when Salk and Sabin were hailed as heroes that we’ve forgotten how horrible these preventable diseases are. I bet very few under 40 years old has ever met anybody who survived polio. My stupid cousin instead of having her children immunized against chickenpox, took them to a chickenpox party and got them “natural” immunity. She knows damned well that I lost most of the hearing in one ear to chickenpox. I guess it’s true that the only thing new is the history you don’t know.

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  7. Bob (not Greene) said on April 23, 2014 at 8:01 am

    Interesting thing about that Clevenger story. It didn’t have a byline.

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  8. Kim said on April 23, 2014 at 8:17 am

    Bob NG – it’s way up at the top of the page, above the photos and text. Love how many who defend free speech don’t understand there can be consequences to speaking what’s on your mind.

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  9. Julie Robinson said on April 23, 2014 at 8:55 am

    I remember having the mumps as a kid and it was miserable. I also remember standing in line to get the polio vaccine (delivered via sugar cube), and the palpable feeling of relief and gratitude expressed by all the parents. Now our children are safe, they said over and over. Thank you, thank you. They had seen polio and lived in fear. What fools, to go back to that.

    Indiana started requiring a second MMR around fourth grade after an outbreak about 20 years back. Are these not done in Wisconsin and Ohio, or are there that many refusing to immunize?

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  10. Connie said on April 23, 2014 at 9:15 am

    I also remember the polio sugar cube. There were crowds and crowds of family in that school hallway.

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  11. Kirk said on April 23, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Second MMR is recommended but apparently not required in Ohio.

    I had six polio shots and three doses of Sabin oral vaccine as a kid.

    And, like most kids then, I had measles, chicken pox and mumps.

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  12. Bob (not Greene) said on April 23, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Kim, must be a thing with their mobile site. I can’t find it on the version that appears on my phone.

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  13. Deborah said on April 23, 2014 at 9:33 am

    I remember getting the polio vaccine in school as a shot in the arm, not a sugar cube, but maybe I’m misremembering it. I had a horrible case of the mumps when I was in the 5th grade, I was already super skinny and I wouldn’t eat, the Dr came to our house and ordered my mother to let me have anything I wanted. I chose Hershey bars and whipped cream, then I couldn’t even eat that. I was so weak after that, I had to rest after walking short distances. I remember it vividly.

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  14. Dorothy said on April 23, 2014 at 9:51 am

    I had the mumps at Christmas time one year (I’m terrible at remembering details like how old I was for stuff like this). I’m guessing I was 8 or 9. The same year one of my older sibs got a Ouija board. I was on the couch watching the festivities when Lou and Joe decided to ask the Ouija board “Will Dorothy ever get better?” Of course I believed in the powers of the Ouija board and watched while it moved to the word “no” ever so slowly under their fingertips. I cried and cried and my mother was furious at them for doing that to me. I got over it and we laugh about it now. But I sure remember the feeling that death was right around the corner for me!

    I just read recently that Jenny McCarthy got engaged to Donnie Wahlberg. Now I have to think of both of them as dumbasses. That’s a shame, too, because I really liked Donnie’s acting in Band of Brothers.

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  15. Maggie Jochild said on April 23, 2014 at 10:07 am

    I had chickenpox as a kid, which was wretched and left me with facial scars. I also had both kinds of measles, what we called red measles (wherein I hallucinated wildly from the soaring fever) and then later the same year, 1964, what we called German measles (rubella). The day before I was sent home from school with rubella, my brother and I had been playing next door with twin boys named Lonnie and Monnie. When my diagnosis was made, Mama realized the twins’ mother was six months pregnant. The colour drained from her face and she rushed next door to let the poor woman know about her exposure. We moved away before she gave birth, so I never found out if that baby was okay.

    Like others here, the memory of getting that first polio vaccine is vivid: the long lines at a local school cafeteria in Lafayette, Louisiana, the sugar cube, and then Mama breaking down outside once we were “safe”: She had to sit down on the sidewalk, she was crying so hard in relief. Yes, I knew people who’d had polio — a cousin who died after time in an iron lung, a little boy named David I played with who wore heavy metal braces on both legs, and a junior high teacher named Mrs. Housewright whose left arm hung emaciated and useless from the effects of polio.

    Years later, I was sharing that vaccination memory with a woman my age who went silent and then quietly asked me “Tell me, do you remember if there were any black folks in that waiting line?” She is African-American, from Delta Mississippi. I scanned my memory and admitted no, the people being given vaccines were all white. This despite the fact that Lafayette has a very high African-American population. She told me her parents were forced to wait, weeks or months; the blacks in many regions were told they could not get vaccinated until the second wave became available. This despite the fact that in those same regions, blacks were believed to be who spread polio in the first place, a belief which let to them being banned from public swimming pools. I had never been taught this history, but she was right.

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  16. Bob (not Greene) said on April 23, 2014 at 10:15 am

    Hey, Brian Stouder, I don’t know if you’ve seen this yet, but I know you’re going to love it: http://www.salon.com/2014/04/23/the_insane_lie_about_slavery_that_christian_conservatives_are_spreading_partner/

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  17. Heather said on April 23, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Sue and Jerry, to hop onto your comment thread, if you haven’t seen it yet, another great British detective show is Vera–set in Northumberland, with Brenda Blethyn in the main role.

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  18. brian stouder said on April 23, 2014 at 11:27 am

    BobNG – interesting article. It is always heartening to see Abe Lincoln on the contemporary field of political play; it has to be the greatest homage our culture can offer our greatest president.

    I wanted to copy/paste a sentence from the essay, where the demented Demint doctrine gets destroyed; something about how his attempt to co-opt the anti-slavery for modern-day Christians in the south is shown to be flatly dishonest whenever we see neo-Confederate types and proud memorials to the heroes of the Confederacy’s war to defend slavery

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  19. coozledad said on April 23, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    The entire proslavery argument was rooted in the antecedents of modern Southern evangelical claptrap.

    Defenders of slavery argued that the institution was divine, and that it brought Christianity to the heathen from across the ocean. Slavery was, according to this argument, a good thing for the enslaved. John C. Calhoun said, “Never before has the black race of Central Africa, from the dawn of history to the present day, attained a condition so civilized and so improved, not only physically, but morally and intellectually.”

    But evangelicals, even when they’re caught recycling arguments from their radical racist past, will just feign deafness.
    It’s easy for them to spout logically inconsistent dreck because they do not in fact believe anything apart from “Rich man ass shore do smell good”.

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  20. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on April 23, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    The anus thing, it’s just a compulsion with you, isn’t it? But I never read enough Freud to make sense of it.

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  21. coozledad said on April 23, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Hit a nerve there, did I Pastor?

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  22. coozledad said on April 23, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    The nature of oligarchies is they can’t function long without a human centipede of ass-to-mouth. It’s encoded in the feudalist language of the King James Bible. It underlaid the structure of the colonial government under the Lords Proprietors. It was the hallmark of the cavalier system of landowning and planting in the slaveholding South, and it’s in the rotten heart of the self-abasing poors in the Republican party that worship money, the acquisition of money, and the holders of money.

    The purest expression of lips to ass is the old southern myth of the beneficient overlords who led white trash to the slaughter in a war over property. The war of treason in defense of human property.

    It’s still celebrated here by men who insist the only proper way to live is to kiss ass. Here’s a Republican running as a stalking horse candidate in the district 2 Democratic primary singing the praises of the old oligarchs:

    http://rantnc.com/2014/04/08/state-house-candidates-fb-page-chock-full-of-racism/

    It’s not only ass kissing, it’s kissing dead ass.

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  23. coozledad said on April 23, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Here’s an essay Dalton huff must have submitted as part of his degree in “Government” from Campbell University, one of many of the Republican lil’ bo peep academies where tobacco and cotton farmers can send their shitrats without fear of them losing the jeebus.
    http://therant905.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/the-south-by-dalton-huff.pdf

    We saw him speak last night at the Roxboro Jaycees candidates’ forum. He sat with the Republicans in the courthouse pews. He was notably absent from the NAACP candidate’s forum last week and none of us in the Democratic party of Person County have heard of him until now. I guess he’s what passes for an agent provocateur among the party of Jesse Helms these days.

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  24. brian stouder said on April 23, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Cooz – amen.

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  25. Jeff Borden said on April 23, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Double amen, Cooz. Right on.

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  26. brian stouder said on April 23, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Truth be told, I think the ass-references for the people who pretend to respect Abe Lincoln (et al) WHILE at the same time waving the stars and bars – is almost too kind. It undeservedly raises them up to a level they haven’t attained.

    (It would be the same if a guy unblinkingly declares that Winston Churchill and FDR are his heroes, as he proudly waves a Nazi swastika flag, and venerates visionaries like Goebbels, et al)

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  27. mark said on April 23, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    It’s hit a limit with me, derrick. Your constant vulgarity and bigotry (mormons, christians, southerners, doctors, republicans, libertarians, conservatives, fundamentalists, etc.) don’t provide anything I need. So long and best to all, particularly those struggling with sickness.

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  28. coozledad said on April 23, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    Grace and peace, Mark.

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  29. Dexter said on April 23, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    I go way-back, too. I took the sugar cube , it was Easter time, and as soon as I took the cube I went outside and vomited on the school sidewalk. I went back in and told them but they said they could not give me another dose. I think I got a polio booster shot in the army, if not, who knows?

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  30. brian stouder said on April 23, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    I remember that one of the vaccinations (a shot) put a mark on my shoulder which remains to this day.

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  31. Dexter said on April 23, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    I saw a helluva thing alongside I-270 in Columbus Saturday. A few cop cars , all showing their colors, had a dude pulled over. Traffic was slowing to move left away from the cop cars so I got a good luck at the proceedings, and it was “Cops” live. A burly cop had a cuffed Black man by the arm , there was a German Shepherd barking seriously at him, this cop had a big night stick under his arm and one hand on his holstered hand gun. The dog was really going nuts. The cop was marching the dude quickly in a not-friendly manner. I wonder what was going down

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  32. brian stouder said on April 23, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    mark – you make interesting comments, and I think we all value hearing your pov.

    Possibly we can agree that it is exceedingly strange that a man like Jim Demint exists, no?

    I mean – the man had a seat in the United States Senate(!!!) – absolute control of 1% (himself!) of 1/2 of the Congress of the United States – and a platform for espousing his beliefs and acting upon them

    and he QUITS right after being re-elected, to run a think tank?

    And at that think tank, he comes forward with such ridiculous and nonsensical “thoughts” as that the monstrous and epochal WRONG of American slavery, and that absolutely catastrophic and destructive, counter-revolutionary war America was plunged into by the southern planter class in DEFENSE of that monstrous and epochal wrong somehow PROVES that conservatives and evangelicals have always been RIGHT….at the very least – induces very great contempt within me (and others)???!!

    I suppose we have to take Demint seriously, given his national reputation – and his current “thought-leader” status; and therefore you might forgive me for thinking that Cooz was being restrained, if anything

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  33. brian stouder said on April 23, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    Dex – yesterday morning, a little past 6:30 am, our 15 year old freshman was sitting on her bus. It was in the parking lot of a school, just off the street – across from Dana on West State. Suddenly, she heard screeching brakes and a thump.

    Then there was a shrill, sustained scream.

    She looked up and out the window and saw a kid laying in the street, bleeding somewhat profusely; he had just been hit by a car.

    Turned out he was OK – aside from a bloody nose and a broken arm (his mom, who had just let him out of the car – whereupon he was darting across the street to Shelby’s bus! – was the screaming person)… but it affected the kids who saw it

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  34. Judybusy said on April 23, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Maggie, thanks for sharing that history. Just another way racism is so deadly.

    Brian, that would be your smallpox vaccine. I recently read a time-travel book in which that is how two women confirmed that they were both from the future.

    I was born in ’65, so by the time the polio vaccine was given, I think some of the awful memories had faded; I don’t remember anyone being so relieved. And doesn’t getting chicken pox make you more susceptible to shingles?

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  35. paddyo' said on April 23, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Deborah @11 in yesterday’s thread (sorry, swamped and unable to read until today):

    If you want to have your picture taken in the Back to the Future DeLorean, it’s somewhere in Reno, NV. The owner is friends-of-friends with somebody in my family there, and he showed up with it at my sister’s 60th birthday party a month ago. Lots of posing for pix and playing with the “flux capacitor,” and my brother got to take it for a spin around the block.
    “Marty, if we could somehow harness this lightning . . . channel it into the flux capacitor . . . it just might work. Next Saturday night, we’re sending you back to the future!”

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  36. Sue said on April 23, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Jerry, thanks for the insight. I think Gently is my favorite among the many British mystery series I watch, and I’m constantly distracted (in the best sense) by the sets and backgrounds. Also we have to turn up the volume and listen very carefully because oh my those accents.
    Heather, Vera was there and gone on my PBS station, I think I only saw one episode.

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  37. paddyo' said on April 23, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    BTW, Nance — today the National Park Service announced the designation of four new “National Historic Landmarks,” and one of them is “The Detroit Industry Murals” at the DIA . . .

    This is from the news release:
    Between July 1932 and March 1933, Diego Rivera, a premier leader in the 1920s Mexican Mural Movement, executed the Detroit Industry mural cycle, considered the United States’ finest, modern monumental artwork devoted to industry. It depicts the City of Detroit’s manufacturing base and labor force on all four walls of the Detroit Institute of Art’s Garden Court. Considered by many scholars to be Rivera’s greatest extant work in the United States, Detroit Industry is an exemplary representation of the introduction and emergence of mural art in the United States between the Depression and World War II.

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  38. Kirk said on April 23, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    Judybusy, they recommend that folks my age (60 and up) who have had chickenpox get a shot to prevent shingles. It’s just a skin pop, one of the easiest shots I ever took, and most insurance covers it.

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  39. Dorothy said on April 23, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Sue don’t you use closed captioning? We do all the time in British shows. Just helps us to follow the plot is much better, and we don’t have to blast the volume (which really doesn’t help anyway).

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  40. Sherri said on April 23, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Judybusy, when you have chicken pox, the virus remains in your body after you recover, it just goes dormant. It can reactivate as shingles. I had a very mild case of chicken pox when I was about 2 years old, but a terrible case of shingles when I was pregnant with my daughter. The chicken pox vaccine uses a live attenuated virus, so I suppose it’s still possible but much less likely to get shingles from the chicken pox vaccine.

    Kirk, because of my experience with shingles, my dad participated in the clinical trials for the shingles vaccine.

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  41. Dave said on April 23, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    As I’ve related here before, my father-in-law was a polio victim, which he contacted during the polio epidemic in 1954. He spent about a year in a iron lung at Children’s Hospital in Columbus and somehow regained enough strength to be able to walk with two canes, as he vowed he would do. He was also able to work as a planner at North American Aviation, which became Rockwell, and now sets empty along the north side of Port Columbus. It also contributed to his early demise at 55, because of all it had done to him.

    He also had a sister who has a gimpy leg because of polio.

    As such, I hate the anti-vaccers, hate reading about them, hate that someone like Jenny McCartney gets such attention. Hate it.

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  42. Charlotte said on April 23, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    One of my dear friends here, about 10 years older than I am, is having issues with post-polio syndrome. His gimpy leg has gotten worse, and there are other immune system issues he doesn’t want us to know about. Anti-vaccers make me crazy, but I have a lot of dead family members …. so I never had that “it won’t happen to me” thing.

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  43. Dave said on April 23, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Umm, that should be contracted polio, not contacted.

    And North American Aviation lies along the south side of Port Columbus on Fifth Avenue, not the north.

    I still miss the edit button.

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  44. Deborah said on April 23, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    Paddy O, I’ve already gotten my picture taken in a DeLorean. In fact the little picture up in the corner of my comment is me sitting in it, hard to tell I know. Of course there are more than one of them. This one was part of a promo for the movie “Back to the Future” which was playing a theater nearby. It was parked out front of the theater for 3 days (not all day each day, but from 3-8pm each day or something like that.

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  45. Deborah said on April 23, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    I had the Shingles vaccine a couple of years ago. My insurance at the time wouldn’t pay for it. Shitty.

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  46. Kaye said on April 23, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Kirk – We are enjoying watching your BlueJackets.
    Hope you have been able to see them live this week.

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  47. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 7:10 am

    It’s not like you couldn’t see this coming. Another Republican icon and professional welfare fraudster bares his innermost racist shite.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cliven-bundy-are-blacks-better-off-as-slaves

    Kiss his thieving ass some more, Republicans.

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  48. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 8:10 am

    Out in some bumfuck of west bumfuck Utah
    I fell in love with a portly cowboy
    Night-time would find me a’ oilin’ my pistol
    TV crews came and I’d flash ‘em mah toy.

    There were no blacks on the Bundy ranch, ever
    Only Amurcans with more guns than God
    My love was deep for this craggy old rancher
    I secretly wished I could fondle his scrod

    One day the feds sent the BLM in
    I smelled Waco on the breeze
    Trying to recoup the government’s losses
    we circled the wagons and drank antifreeze

    So in anger we

    Challenged the gubment for government money
    Down went their hands for the tasers they wore.
    Our challenge was answered in less than a heart-beat;
    They tasered fat Larry to the desert floor

    Just for a moment I stood there in silence,
    Shocked by the FOUL EVIL deed they had done.

    Many thoughts raced through my mind as I stood there;
    should we stick the heifers out front while we run?

    I saw our trousers were fast filling up
    Out in the ATV shed
    I caught a whiff off of manly old Cliven
    It smelled like tallegio and a horse two weeks dead

    so I gathered my

    neckerchief close to my now burning nostrils
    thinking “The BLM’s hit us with gas!”

    The check in my pocket from Cliven was worthless
    and I’m here in the desert a smellin’ like ass.
    It’s been so long since I’ve seen the young heifers
    they are much broader than my fear of death.

    I saddled up and away I did go,
    Riding to Joe Walsh’s tent
    Maybe tomorrow
    A bullet may find me.
    Tonight I’ll just hang out with Joe and get bent

    And at last here I

    Am on the hill overlooking the Federal Agents
    One takes a bullhorn and says “Fuck this shit.
    Lets call the IRS in on these douchebags”
    “They’ll pry these grafters away from the tit”.

    Off to my right I see five mounted Mormons
    Off to my left ride five Klansmen or more
    Shouting and flashing their well oiled pistols
    They’re already half the way to my back door

    Something is dreadfully wrong for I feel
    We’re not going to get son of Waco today
    Though I am trying
    To get myself tasered
    the federal agents have been called away.

    But my love for

    Old Cliven and his twenty years in arrears
    Is throbbing like Hannity’s hardon for Mitt
    I feel a puff of something from my pistol.
    Off to the toilet to take care of it

    From out of nowhere old Cliven has found me
    Kissing my cheek as he checks my wide stance
    Cradling my Wranglers his hands reach my pocket
    He snatches the wallet right out of my pants.

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  49. beb said on April 24, 2014 at 8:38 am

    The Oklahoma Supreme Court may be impeached because it stayed the execution of two men who had requested to know what drugs would be used to kill them. The court felt that this was a reasonable request, especially since they were not challenning their sentences. A couple of Republicans in the legislature feels this is coddling prisoners too much. Impeachment was supposed to be the route of last resort but increasingly it seems more like the preferred route of Republicans to over-turn elections they don’t like. For the law-and-order party they have becomes extraordinarily lawless.

    Coolzedad and profanity. At first I found Coz’s profanity laced rants refreshing honest but lately they seem more like Tourette’s Syndrome. But, you know, you don’t have to read him. When I found Prospero’s rants tedious – I stopped reading him. I don’t know why mark felt he had to publicly announce that he was going away when he could have just started skipping over Coozledad unless he was only here to compain about Coz….

    The Riviera murals at the Detroit Institute of Arts has been designated a national treasure. As it most surely is.

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  50. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Run, you gutless monkeys, run!
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/24/conservatives-begin-backing-away-after-cliven-bundys-remarks-disparaging-the-negro/

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  51. alex said on April 24, 2014 at 9:04 am

    Trolling has been Mark’s only purpose in coming here, so I consider his threat empty. And I don’t believe for one minute that he’s going away.

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  52. brian stouder said on April 24, 2014 at 9:06 am

    Those folks are “running” from ol’ Clive in the same manner that Scarlett ‘rebuffed’ Rhett’s randy advances

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  53. Wim said on April 24, 2014 at 9:07 am

    Well, like his claims to the land, Bundy’s thoughts about ‘the Negro’ seem to date to the 1870’s. Change but a few references–instead of ‘government house,’ say ‘Freedman’s Bureau’–and this would read like a letter to the editor in an early issue of the Richmond Enquirer, particularly with that telling emphasis of cotton-picking. I’ll bet Bundy is both surprised and hurt by those politicians suddenly disavowing him for saying the same shit he’s been saying his entire life.

    Love the filk, Cooz.

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  54. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 9:20 am

    That first line should read
    Out in some bumfuck in bumfuck Nevada

    The coffee hadn’t hit yet.

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  55. nancy said on April 24, 2014 at 9:31 am

    Hey guys. As you’ve probably figured, no new post today. Events beyond my control, i.e. work, conspired to rob my blogging time last night, and today we’re off on a college visit — Oberlin. Too much money, but what the hell, it’s not that far.

    I’m just getting caught up on the Cliven Bundy situation, and between fits of giggles, all I can say is, Hello, chickens. Home so soon?

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  56. brian stouder said on April 24, 2014 at 9:37 am

    I think it would have been great fun to witness shit-for-brains-Sean Hannity’s reaction to the “news” regarding Clive’s hateful, racist remarks. Aw hell! All his hopes for another great American firey shoot-out between his white-hat guys and the evil G-men got shot to hell (so to speak) when Clive traded his (imaginary) white hat for white-sheets and burning crosses. Sonofabitch! Coulda’ made this story last all through the summer!! etc

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  57. Minnie said on April 24, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Since posterior posts are on topic, my response to Mark: “Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.”

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  58. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Minnie: Speaking of doors and asses, I wonder how fast the Fox News trucks were barreling off that “ranch” last night.

    I’ll bet old Cliven and his family of grifters awoke to crickets. Maybe the White Patriot Party stalwarts are still camped out there looking for someone to shoot.

    This would be a huge embarrassment for Republicans, if they were capable of shame.
    They’ll memory hole it same way they did the Iraq war and the Bush economy now.

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  59. Scout said on April 24, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Speaking of Cliven Bundy, (perfect name) here is Jon Stewart escalating the feud with Shit for brains Sean.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jon-stewart-escalates-feud-sean-hannity

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  60. Snarkworth said on April 24, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Nance, hope you and Kate enjoy Oberlin. Snarklet went there; it’s paradise for bright kids with musical tendencies.

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  61. Connie said on April 24, 2014 at 10:41 am

    I’ve had shingles. Get the vaccine while you can.

    If Oberlin is anything like Butler they will give you enough money in scholarships and grants to make their cost to you comparable to a state university.

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  62. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 10:43 am

    Quick, Rick Perry. Find some womens to put out front and deflect these questions!
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-perry-clive-bundy-racist-remarks

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  63. Kirk said on April 24, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Kaye@46: I have been to both playoff games and have tickets for Game 6 on Monday. The Jackets’ OT win Wednesday night was one of the most thrilling sporting events I’ve ever attended. Playoff hockey is unbelievable, and that arena was jumping. Huge fun.

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  64. brian stouder said on April 24, 2014 at 10:56 am

    It would be an interesting experiment, if one was a Koch brother and had large amounts of disposable money, to buy a few semi-loads of cattle and take them to the Federal land that ol’ Clive doesn’t own, and turn ‘em loose to graze! Afterall, his ‘rights’ don’t supersede your rights or my rights, right?

    Somehow, I don’t think ol’ Clive would applaud such an act of ‘sovereign citizenship’

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  65. Deborah said on April 24, 2014 at 10:59 am

    The National Review weighs in on Bundy’s remarks. Compares him to Ghandi. Unbelievable. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kevin-williamson-clive-bundy-racist-remarks

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  66. alex said on April 24, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Yay Oberlin! I wish I’d gone there instead of IU.

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  67. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 12:49 pm

    I’ll give him one thing, he’s got guts. And they’re drooping over his old man dick.

    The metaphorical kind? Nope. Doesn’t have them. No Republican does. He’s currently denying he said what he is clearly saying on tape. Fucking coward. No wonder they were planning to stand behind the womenfolk:

    http://gawker.com/heres-cliven-bundys-slavery-loving-rant-against-the-ne-1567123897

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  68. Dorothy said on April 24, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    My boss at Kenyon’s daughter went to Oberlin. Kenyon’s current president used to teach at Oberlin before we stole him away. I hope Kate loves it!

    By coincidence I read this yesterday about Oberlin:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/lawsuits-at-oberlin-college-involve-strange-allegations-2014-4

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  69. Dexter said on April 24, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Have fun, Kirk. Playoff hockey is indeed the most intense sport going, like the final lap of a close auto race but for a couple hours straight. For me, it’s not been fun , as the Red Wings are playing like it’s an October exhibition game and not the playoffs; it’s to be over soon if Zetterberg’s back isn’t feeling well enough to play anymore this year. Also, I did not know how tough St. Louis really is. They’re slamming the Black Hawks every possession, and hitting them hard.

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  70. brian stouder said on April 24, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Hockey never drew me in; I don’t know where to watch, and hardly ever see the puck.

    Used to love love love baseball, ’til they lost me; and now F1 racing (and to a lesser extent, NASCAR) is the sport that draws me.

    But I will say that high school sports are an exceptionally pleasant way to pass an evening – whether basketball or football or marching band or winter guard

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  71. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Keep the cameras on this fucker day and night and don’t stop. Ever. It’s Joe the Zimmerman plumber cowboy, and he was their wet dream. Don’t let them ever, ever forget that shit.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bundy-minorities-against-us

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  72. Sherri said on April 24, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    Hockey drew me in when I arrived in Pittsburgh at the same time as this guy named Mario Lemieux, hence I’m not enjoying the Columbus-Pittsburgh series as much as Kirk is. I used to be a serious baseball fan, but now I watch baseball sporadically. I’m much more of a football fan now than I used to be.

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  73. Jean S said on April 24, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    For a wonderful response to Mr. Bundy, see Michael Twitty @ afroculinaria.com

    I do love your “hello chickens” response. I’m stealing that, for sure.

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  74. Dexter said on April 24, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    When MLB began offering the opportunity to watch all the games for a pretty price, hardcore baseball fans were glad to pay a few hundred bucks a year. I saw an interview with a retired Dodgers executive who said he was constantly surfing and was watching way over 100 games a week.
    I do not have that cable package but I do get it one “free week” a year and I also do receive Tigers, Redlegs, and Indians games, almost all of their games, and I get the occasional Cubs or Sox game on WGN-America, plus many games on the new Fox Sports Channel and then there’s espn and of course games on MLB Channel.
    I get a shitload of baseball games, and I watch every chance I get. The more I watch, the more I want. I get pissed off after watching two games and find I cannot get the upcoming west coast game. There have been times that after watching three games, I’ll turn on my XM radio and catch a west coast game. I am a baseball nut. The only exception I keep holy is for my Sunday nights HBO and Showtime programming. No baseball when the great evening cable shows are on.
    One of my best friends used to coach the Kansas City Royals’ lefty pitcher Jason Vargas when Jay was a Little Leaguer out in Apple Valley, California . Jay signed a huge multi-million dollar contact with KC last winter. He has arrived; he pitched in Cleveland last night and did really well. Of course I watched it on the teevee. 🙂 http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2014/03/16/22/21/Gw9Vo.St.81.jpeg

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  75. annie said on April 24, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    Ha ha, Beb @49. Tourette’s Syndrome — I think you’re right.

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  76. Deborah said on April 24, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Here’s a link to the Michael Twitty piece Jean S at #73 mentioned http://afroculinaria.com/2014/04/24/hey-clive-bundy-freedom-beats-picking-cotton/

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  77. alex said on April 24, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Here’s a funny:

    http://americablog.com/2014/04/mozilla-announces-cliven-bundy-new-ceo.html

    Be sure and scroll down to the disclaimer at the bottom. Not an implausible premise at all —— that in some quarters he’ll be celebrated as an icon of freedom of speech, that is. His fifteen minutes may have only begun.

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  78. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Ha ha, Beb @49. Tourette’s Syndrome — I think you’re right.
    Nah. I Pretty much indulge standard Southern usage.

    Tourette’s, a neuropsychiatric disorder,principally involves neuromotor tics, and only a small fraction of its sufferers develop phonic tics. It would be more correct to say that people with early onset Alzheimers and Republicans exhibit more frequent motor and verbal characteristics manifesting as racism, abject stupidity, an inability to process language in either its written or spoken forms, and an innate defensiveness that makes them resemble nothing so much as sweaty old moribunds and shut-ins.

    Their humor runs toward unscrewing the lids from salt shakers, kicking the blind, and ganging up on drunks to abuse them. Some of them behaviors been exhibited right here!

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  79. coozledad said on April 24, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    And lest I forget: Grace and peace.

    Not a tic. I swear!

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  80. Sue said on April 24, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    I’m not so sure we should be celebrating mark’s departure. Although lately he was more likely to drop in on a mission of annoyance than to offer a viewpoint, when he was interested in being part of the discussion his comments were worth reading.
    I like the diversity here and don’t want to lose it.

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  81. Deborah said on April 24, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    On the other hand Sue, given where Coozledad lives it must be terribly frustrating to listen to the constant rightwing bullshit. I get extremely frustrated when I have to deal with the ridiculous shit my rightwing sister comes up with, especially about healthcare which rubs my last nerve the wrong way and makes me turn into Linda Blair in the Exorcist.

    I’m really enjoying watching Bundy embarrass people like Hannity, keep those cameras rolling.

    Tomorrow morning I leave ridiculously early for North Carolina for my mother-in-law’s 95th birthday. Then on Monday, again ridiculously early I fly to Chicago where I’ll be until early June. I’ll miss the mountains in Northern New Mexico but I’m looking forward to seeing the lake every day.

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  82. brian stouder said on April 24, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Jean S and Deborah – thanks for that link; it was superb

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