Cut from the same cloth.

Up dark and late working/studying, up bright and early to head out to Macomb County — I’m moderating their monthly “political hot topics” breakfast. Just flyin’ the flag for Bridge.

So this is really all I have. I was struck by the obvious symmetries in this photo at first glance — the colors, the pose, the height of the two men, all of it, down to the smallest details (each has a flag pin and a visible wedding band) — but with a second look my only question is, “So younger men are wearing three-piece suits again?”

A photo posted by The New York Times (@nytimes) on

Obama was his usual witty self at the state dinner.

Enjoy your weekend.

Posted at 7:13 am in Current events |

62 responses to “Cut from the same cloth.”

  1. Suzanne said on March 11, 2016 at 8:48 am

    I am trying to picture tRump in this pic instead of Obama, but I just ate, so I have to avert my eyes back to the real photo.

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  2. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 9:30 am

    Two handsome guys.

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  3. basset said on March 11, 2016 at 10:02 am

    anyone here around Columbus or Ashland, OH? We’re trying to get three rescue dogs from Louisiana to Toronto this weekend with a bunch of volunteer drivers who are carrying them an hour or so and then handing off to another, those are two of the four sections we still need to fill. Jeffersonville to Dublin and Ashland to Willoughby Hills… the others are Athens AL to Brentwood (Nashville) TN and Bowling Green to Elizabethtown KY.

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  4. Jolene said on March 11, 2016 at 10:58 am

    More from the state dinner: Beautiful women in beautiful dresses. Michelle’s dress is really gorgeous–so graceful. Along with various other aspects of their legacy, the Obamas will leave quite a fashion record.

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  5. Jeff Borden said on March 11, 2016 at 11:01 am

    I hope three-piece suits make a comeback. I still have three among the suits I rotate through when teaching. It’s always a great look.

    Man, I’m going to miss Obama. He was not the transformational president I hoped for, but it’s doubtful anyone could’ve been when on the very night of his inauguration, the opposition party was meeting to plan the various ways they would work to make him a one-term president. (Hey, Mitch McConnell! Fuck you.) That said, he has almost always represented our nation with class, dignity and wit. No creepy back rubs for Angela Merkel. No prancing around in a uniform as if he were a pilot. No holding the American flag upside while cheering at the Olympics. And, most blessedly, no tortured grammar or syntax.

    It’s likely I’ll go to my grave never fully understanding the depth of hatred he inspired among so many conservatives or how he was “destroying” our country with his every word and deed. I hate to think it is largely racist, but based on what I’m seeing at Trump rallies, perhaps that is the reason.

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  6. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 11:28 am

    He was not the transformational president I hoped for…

    Agreed that he was not largely transformational, but he has transformed several important things – most especially healthcare coverage.

    Our lunatic governor in Indiana is always eager to hawk ‘his’ HIP 2.0 – and is (rightly) proud that it provides coverage to 370, 000 Hoosiers who were previously uninsured –

    proving the old saw that you can accomplish much if you don’t care who gets the credit.

    By the way – ever notice the Republican mantra on Obama-care is “Repeal and replace”?

    And that they never really offer anything that would answer the question – replace it with what?

    Especially ironic since the R’s labeled the program “Obama-care” as an epithet – and now all they seem to really really want is to knock his name off of it, and call it theirs!

    I say – do it, buddies!

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  7. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Michelle has the most beautiful arms, she’s so lovely. The Canadian First Lady is a cutie, but she doesn’t hold a candle to our Michelle. I will miss both BO and MO when his term is over, hopefully, eventually they will move back to Chicago after their youngest graduates from high school.

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  8. Bitter Scribe said on March 11, 2016 at 11:49 am

    I’m trying to remember Democrats hurling non-specific but vicious insults like “incompetent,” “destroying the country,” etc. at Dubya, but failing.

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  9. basset said on March 11, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    Update – the Ohio sections are filled, so never mind.

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  10. Linda said on March 11, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    Disagree about him not being a transformational president. He is more than we now appreciate. One of the big things he did was create a successful federal program that achieved many of its goals–the health care initiative. It cut medical noninsurance hugely, had an impact on costs, and, most importantly, destroyed the prevalent conventional wisdom of the past 30 years: if the free market can’t fix something, it needs to stay broken, and we have to be o.k. with it. Even the new KY governor had to walk back his campaign promise to roll back the new Medicaid coverage, BEFORE HE WAS SWORN IN. Let’s consider that. The ground underneath health assumptions has changed, and whatever the GOP plots to “replace” Obamacare with will be measured against it.

    Remember that Reagan didn’t really cut government much. He set the table for cutbacks later, by successfully changing the conversation. In 30 years, we will look back on this period in a very different light.

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  11. Sue said on March 11, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    Yay basset!
    Are they bassets?

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  12. Sherri said on March 11, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    Jeff(tmmo) from previous thread,

    My response to the gentleman who was angry at us was to keep thanking him for coming and sharing his viewpoint. “Bless your heart” would have had to cross too many cultures to make any sense.

    We have been dealing with a particularly controversial issue, but in general, I think that planning commission won’t be as quiet as it was it the past. The chair was telling me that in his first two years, there was nothing anybody cared that much about. But he’s coming to the end of his second and last 4 year term, which means he came in during the middle of the economic crash, so things were pretty quiet.

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  13. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Bitter Scribe, I remember friends and colleagues saying things like “incompetent” and “ruining the country” about Bush, but I don’t remember it coming from Democratic political types. If they said it, I don’t remember it being reported. But maybe I have a selective memory.

    I can’t remember if I mentioned this here before, we’re getting rid of our car in Chicago. I’ve been trying to convince my husband to do that for years because we rarely drive it. Parking in the place we’re moving to is deeded and would have added $50k to the price if we chose to buy it. We had the option of not purchasing it and when we counted up all that we would be saving, parking, insurance, gas, wear and tear it didn’t make any sense when we only drive about once a month or so. There are plenty of Zip car stations around us if we do need to drive somewhere and there are always cabs and Uber (although I’ve never used Uber or any of those). We have our Jeep in NM and that’s fine, we have to drive a lot there. We both walk mostly or take the El. My husband is a little sad about selling his beloved car that he’s had for 17 years, it is in impeccable shape, but he’ll get over it.

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  14. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    Thought Experiment: How completely wild and crazy would the right-wing lip-flappers and commentariat go, if Bernie Sanders said or did HALF of what the Donald does?

    Or, if Sanders’ rallies appeared to be a bunch of barely-under-control red-necks with anger-management issues? Or if he baited and verbally harassed people who were (in any way) different from the rest of the crowd, as his private army of police ran them out of the hall?

    And absolutely NEVERMIND if it was Secretary Clinton at the podium, instead of Donald. Good God!! She’d be the Wicked Witch of the West, or Cruella DeVille, or Lizzie Bordon – or some combination of all of them.

    See, this is the rightwing’s generally accepted prejudice, right there

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  15. alex said on March 11, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Brian, consider the open carry laws, for instance. It’s fairly well understood that this is the new “whites only” club, only no signs need to be posted. Likewise with Trump’s rallies.

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  16. Dexter said on March 11, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Deborah, that story reminds me of Fran Lebowitz
    and her car she keeps garaged in Manhattan. She’s had it forever, rarely drives it, but will not give it up…it’s a 1979 Checker Marathon.

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  17. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    Alex, I’d not thought of that, and it is a superb point.

    Two weeks ago I had my oil changed at WalMart, and saw something I’d never noticed before – and it happened twice.

    That is – young white male openly carrying a firearm.

    I guess I don’t get out much – but I was gobsmacked when I saw it (back in the automotive area) and then SAW IT AGAIN (out in the parking lot)

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  18. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    Dexter – I thought Fran Liebowitz was the poor soul (from Fort Wayne, Indiana) who’s life was tragically cut short by a kiln explosion (think Blues Brothers)

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  19. Dexter said on March 11, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Remember when Barack Obama was the savior who was to restore world-respect to the USA after Bush’s hateful presidency had ruined America’s stance in the world? Remember the day in Berlin when Obama had the masses at the first wave?
    Cut to that asshole Joe Wilson (R-SC) who screamed “YOU LIE !!” during Barack Obama’s first SOTU…and it’s been a racist siege against Barack and Michelle Obama ever since. At least Bernie is not being castigated (too badly) for being a Jew.

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  20. nancy said on March 11, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    Brian, you’re thinking of Fawn Leibowitz, and it was “Animal House,” not the Blues Brothers. Fran Leibowitz is a NYC writer.

    Coincidentally, the only woman I know who kept a car in Manhattan also had a Checker Marathon. She said it was a four-legged bitch to find parts for the thing and simple repairs routinely kept it in the garage (in New Jersey) for weeks at a time. Fortunately, she was richer than Midas, and could easily take cabs.

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  21. Suzanne said on March 11, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    As if things weren’t strange enough, Ben Carson, the most intelligent & godly man who ever lived according to his followers, today endorsed the Donald for Pres and a Breitbart reporter got roughed up at a DT campaign rally ( and Rubio is endorsing his rival Kasich in Ohio even though he (Rubio) is still in the race. The right really is starting to implode.
    If you made this stuff up, you’d be sent off for treatment.

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  22. Danny said on March 11, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    Rest in peace, Keith Emerson.

    Man, we have had a crappy few months of iconic musicians passing!

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  23. Dexter said on March 11, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    This little tidbit is mainly for Deborah and Jeff Borden who may know about this function
    living in Chicago as they do…the man with the phone taking a selfie is my nephew Jon Friend , who works in the mayor’s office. The woman with him is his wife Becky Carroll who has hung her own shingle after being Mayor Emanuel’s SuperPac chief for a while.

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  24. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on March 11, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    Sherri, I was just talking to a local contractor and friend from Habitat work over the years, just today in my house where he’s painting what I can’t reach on step stools and won’t try on ladders, who was telling me from high above that he’s amazed I still chair BZBA, because “the last few years, it’s just all anger and unpleasantness; even when it used to be harder times, everyone just came and talked, but now they all threaten to appeal and call you names.”

    To which I had to say “Richard, they don’t threaten. They do, all the way to Common Pleas, which is why we have to be so much less conversational on our end and read through all the sixteen variance criteria and vote individually on each one.”

    Trump didn’t introduce incivility to our culture, but he’s certainly surfing that wave right into the rocks off shore. Cowabunga, dude.

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  25. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    I used to love Fran Leibowitz, I haven’t thought about her in years. I remember watching a movie with her in it, a documentary I think, it may have been completely about her, I don’t remember. They showed her driving around in that car in the movie.

    Dexter, good luck to your nephew’s wife, she sounds like a sharp cookie. I hadn’t heard of that event in your comment #23, but then I’m not up on the social scene in Chicago (or anywhere).

    I’m waiting around for the new area rug to be delivered, it’s supposed to be here today. I’m bummed because we didn’t want it delivered until we moved but that couldn’t be arranged for some reason. I ordered 3 pieces of new furniture that aren’t supposed to be delivered until we move, I certainly hope they don’t get delivered early too.

    We leave for NM tomorrow, ugh another travel day. My time in Chicago flew by. We’re only going to be there about 2 weeks, then back to Chicago for more craziness. I don’t recommend having construction projects in two states simultaneously, it’s getting ridiculous.

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  26. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    Deborah – just stay away from the kiln!

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  27. Sherri said on March 11, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    Indeed, Jeff(tmmo). The final vote on another matter we’ve dealt with since I joined the commission is being held up because the person who didn’t get his way has complained that we didn’t follow proper process for our decision and wants one of the commissioners to recuse himself for bias (this after a unanimous vote turning down his application for amendment to the code; he’s been working for at least 2 years to stop a project, and he wanted a really big hammer added to the zoning code to make it easier to stop things.) So we had to get the city attorney involved, and then I’m sure he’ll have the same fight with city council, which I doubt will be any more sympathetic to him.

    I’ve never believed there were simple answers in government, but now I’m getting a hands-on education in what that means.

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  28. MichaelG said on March 11, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    Dexter @19. The Rs aren’t banging Bernie yet. You can bet that if he ends up being the nominee that there will be Commie this and Commie that and all sorts of anti-Semitic shit. You have to know that they are digging like hell for anything they can throw at him and will make up plenty to augment whatever they find.

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  29. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    It was a documentary about Fran Lebowitz, directed by Scorsese called Public Speaking

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  30. Sue said on March 11, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    Dammit Hillary, is it necessary to piss off a wide swath of your supporters in order to try to pick up a couple of votes from a demographic that hates you?

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  31. Sue said on March 11, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    Sorry for being cranky. Here’s something to lighten the mood. Sometimes I really miss Chicago.

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  32. LAMary said on March 11, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    If you are a fan of Law and Order reruns you can catch Fran Leibowitz playing a judge occasionally. It’s always on the original Law and Order. Not the creepy spin offs.

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  33. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    While I’m waiting for the area rug to be delivered and can’t go anywhere, let me relate something I did earlier this morning to show how far a designer will go to find an exact color match. As part of the work we’re having done on our new Chicago place, we want to surface a short wall in what I call waxed plaster and my husband calls Venetian plaster in a color that we are quite fond of that’s found all over Florence. It’s actually a color of stone, the stone is called pietra serena, a warm grey with lots of green in it. I’ve been trying to get a sample of the stone with no success. Then I read online that Steve Jobs ordered that every Apple Store in the world have floors made of pietra serena. So I went to the Apple Store on Michigan Ave, a few blocks away and crawled on the floor with my swatches to try and match the color. I talked to one of the guys with a blue Apple shirt first so they wouldn’t throw me out for being a weirdo. They probably thought I was a weirdo anyway, but the didn’t throw me out. I couldn’t get the color match exactly, so when I get back to Chicago in a couple of weeks I’ll be going back with more swatches.

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  34. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    Here’s something I just found online about Jobs and his floors At the end of the article they describe the color as greyish blue, but I would say it’s more greyish green. It’s all in the eye of the beholder, I guess.

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  35. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 6:43 pm

    Hmmm, something happened there

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  36. Colleen said on March 11, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    So this week, after Nancy Reagan died, there was a meme I saw on FB that had a picture of her captioned something like “Share if you miss having a First Lady with class”.

    How is Michelle Obama NOT classy?

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  37. Sherri said on March 11, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    Oh that one’s easy, Colleen. By definition!

    This is just sad:

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  38. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    So Deborah – watch out for kilns – and – don’t go to downtown Chicago this evening.

    Lots of Trumpian chuckleheads lost control, apparently.

    (plus – behold! The intelligence of the Donald: “I’ll hold a rally in downtown Chicago! Yeah – that’ll work!”)

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  39. basset said on March 11, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    No, Sue@11, they’re mutts – overnighting in Birmingham right now, the trip is set except for Bowling Green to E-town.

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  40. Basset said on March 11, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    and Keith Emerson has died, possibly a suicide. His grave needs no flowers, the tapes have recorded his name.

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  41. Deborah said on March 11, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    You’ve probably all heard about the protests in Chicago by now. They’re mostly around UIC (university of Illinois in Chicago) not that close to us, maybe 3 or 5 or so miles away. It’s been on the news here for the last 2 hours. Apparently there was a big hullabaloo in St. Louis earlier. Trump canceled his rally in Chicago which was wise. People are comparing it to the 68 riots, but I think that’s a stretch.

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  42. basset said on March 11, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    Three posts in a row… Brian@38, they sure did, and every bit of it calculated, whether the chuckleheads knew it or not.

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  43. brian stouder said on March 11, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    basset – couldn’t agree more; very orchestrated.

    Donald Trump is an arsonist – and the problem is, these things can be kindled and stoked-up and calculated to a point… right up until they go out of control.

    My heart goes out – in advance – to the security women & men, and the bystanders who will be hurt or killed, protecting the firebug, when things get out of control (as they are wont to do)

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  44. Dave said on March 11, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Can anyone else see Prospero’s rants in their minds’ eye? What would he have made of comparing the 68 Democratic convention riots with tonight’s Trump fiasco? He told us many times that he was there in 68 and you know he would have unleashed a frenzy on the developments we’ve seen this year, both tonight and everything leading up to tonight.

    Brian at #43, you’re right, Trump is an arsonist. Meanwhile, I’ve been reading about the Bob Morris (of Girl Scout cookies fame) employee that somehow got himself elected to Fort Wayne city council and his run-ins with the law. I’m sure Steve Shine’s defense of him means everything.

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  45. basset said on March 12, 2016 at 12:22 am

    Prospero would have said the same damn thing over and over again, just as he did in every other context. He did this, he thinks that, we’re all idiots and f**k everybody, starting with us if we disagreed with him. Got to be annoying after awhile, then it was pitiful.

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  46. Suzanne said on March 12, 2016 at 6:58 am

    When I heard about the situation in Chicago, i, too, thought orchestrated. We can all see the free publicity he got out of it. I think arsonist is a very good analogy. I would bet money at a Trump casino that Trunp believes he can control all of this madness he started just like the right believed they could, until Trump came along.

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  47. jcburns said on March 12, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Prospero, March 6 2008:
    “Creative alternatives are crucial to human existence. How we know we’re actually alive. Otherwise, you’ve got Donald Trump and his improbable hair masquerading as the real world.”

    April 19, 2011:
    “There are people that would actually vote for Trump for President. America could not be more depressing. Beyond comprehension stupid.”

    April 20, 2011:
    “Casual racism? No such thing? You are or you aren’t. Trump is, and there is no scum lower than a racist. Racism is subhuman, and it’s inherently and exceptionally stupid. You can put a long=haired rat on your head, but you are still a bald asshole. Trump may not be Huckabee fucking stupid, but guttdom he is thick as a brick. And the Congressional GOP? Like lasers, I tell you. Lasers, on jobs. Dumbass pieces of lying sacks of shit.”

    And…so on!

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  48. brian stouder said on March 12, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    jc/Prospero for Thread Win!!

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  49. Deborah said on March 12, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    jc, thanks for that. You gotta admit Prospero had a way with words when he wasn’t impaired chemically. I miss him.

    We’re in Santa Fe again. When we first got here the weather was marvelous but it’s taken a turn quickly, it was snowing a bit ago, although I don’t think it’ll stick. Sometimes when I come here the city seems shabby and this is one of those times. I think it’s because of all of the dust and grime of winter has coated everything even though some of the fruit trees are already blossoming, way too early. Not good at all, it will freeze and then there won’t be much fruit to speak of in the farmers markets. Sigh. Also, everyone has been so delighted with all of the rain/snow they got since last spring until now, but that will probably be ending because of the dwindling of El Nina (or El Niño, I don’t remember which). We’re probably going to go back into drought conditions, which is such is shame, it was so nice while it lasted. We have a fire going in the fireplace, one of the things I miss when I’m in Chicago, that and the mountains.

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  50. Charlotte said on March 12, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Suzanne @40 — it was orchestrated, but not by the Donald. A whole bunch of protest groups came together to place large numbers of protesters inside the event. Here’s a pretty good piece on it:

    My cousin Julie was one of the many many organizers — and she said that it was pretty scary in there, especially all the announcements beforehand instructing Trump supporters how to respond to protesters. The air of menace is certainly orchestrated, and is one of the big attractions for Trump supporters. (She also said it was totally thrilling to shut the thing down.)

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  51. Sue said on March 12, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    Charlotte, what was the reasoning behind this? They must have known they were putting themselves in danger, and others too. Plus, now we can spend the rest of the campaign watching Morning Joe and Chuck Todd and all the others turn this into yet another false equivalency – see-both-sides-do-it. And Bernie Sanders is going to have to explain, over and over again, why he is not Donald Trump.

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  52. Jolene said on March 12, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    The NYT has been doing a lot of spadework on Trump and his supporters, at least some of which you’d think they’d have gotten together before now. Here, for instance, is a piece on Trump’s political aspirations and his early efforts to be taken seriously by the GOP.

    And here is an analysis of the regions where he has done well. As you might guess, they’re not areas where things have been going along swimmingly.

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  53. Jolene said on March 12, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    And here’s a piece on one of his worst scams, Trump University. I really hope the people who are taking him to court on this succeed.

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  54. brian stouder said on March 12, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    Semi-unrelated: click Nancy’s link to the Bridge articles on the Detroit riots (off the main page sidebar). They are enlightening, somewhat troubling, and altogether timely; good stuff indeed

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  55. basset said on March 13, 2016 at 10:14 am

    the Nashville Tennessean had a front-page story yesterday about the TN county where Trump did best, and as you’d expect it’s a rural county where the big factory (Osh Kosh childrens’ clothing) shut down years ago. I did some reporting up there around that time, not only is it way off the interstate but in the early 00s about forty percent of the adult population was functionally illiterate. Hard to attract industry under those conditions… talked to a factory owner in a nearby county for the same story who had to operate a school in his plant so his workers could read well enough to follow the directions on the machinery.

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  56. Kirk said on March 13, 2016 at 10:44 am

    Sue@51: Good question. The demonstrators are playing right into Trump’s hands.

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  57. Connie said on March 13, 2016 at 11:35 am

    Must read, Ross Douthat’s opinion column in the NYT today, ” The Party Still Decides.” Totally anti Trump. I can’t believe I have recommended him. Sorry, no link.

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  58. Connie said on March 13, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Douthat column is currently the top headline at

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  59. Suzanne said on March 13, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    I read Douthat’s column this morning. I don’t think the party elites and columnists like D still want to admit that these Trumpistas ARE a great part of the party. The GOP is definitely between a rock & a hard place. If they decide to deny Trump the nomination, a whole lotta angry people will be further unfettered with absolutely no loyalty to anyone but themselves. If they let him have the nomination, they risk being the laughingstock of the world and possibly subjecting the country to a ruinous presidential term. Either way, they lose. (Well, we all lose).

    I am surprised by two things. 1- that the other candidates are not trying harder to address the concerns (falling wages, job loss, etc) that are so clearly drawing people to Trump & Sanders and 2- that after standing mute for so long while the lunatic fringe increasingly rose to the top in the party, that the party power brokers are so surprised at what is taking place.

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  60. Charlotte said on March 13, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    Here’s a good piece about the protest organizers:

    My hat is off to them. Someone has to put themselves on the line to show how dangerous Trump is. That his campaign decided to go to UIC and not one of the suburban stadiums was a provocation in itself. So they called him on it, and he caved.

    This one from Josh Marshall is pretty scary, and I fear he might be right — someone is going to get hurt.–2

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  61. Charlotte said on March 13, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    Here’s another good one on the student organizers:

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  62. basset said on March 14, 2016 at 12:05 am

    And… the dogs made it to Toronto. Not bad, eh?

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