It’s heeeere. 

Briefly have wifi, zero cell service. (Thank God.) But guess what’s coming?

Posted at 7:31 pm in Uncategorized |

141 responses to “It’s heeeere. ”

  1. Dorothy said on September 11, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    I sure hope we’ll have fall first, but I’m guessing … Winter??

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  2. alex said on September 11, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    Is the question-mark picture box intentional or a lack of signal?

    Hell if I know what’s coming other than another three hellish years like the one that seems like it has been a million already. Although some folks at work today were freaking out about the volcano underneath Yellowstone, which seems to be some kind of new end-times obsession.

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  3. Julie Robinson said on September 11, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    My brain is still in hurricane mode to the exclusion of all else, so I’m gonna say Jose. They could get hit again before they even get the power back on.

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  4. basset said on September 11, 2017 at 11:25 pm

    Volcano under Yellowstone? There’s a volcano in a city park in Portland, mainstream scientists say it’s dead but we know better.

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  5. Deborah said on September 12, 2017 at 12:07 am

    I’m back in Chicago where it feels like fall. What’s coming? I have no idea. But I read some stuff online about the Steele dossier. I sure hope impeachment is coming, followed by conviction. Although president Pence gives me great pause.

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  6. jcburns said on September 12, 2017 at 12:11 am

    I think Nancy started to upload an image and she lost the wifi in mid upload….

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  7. Suzanne said on September 12, 2017 at 7:48 am

    Sounds like the story of my life. Stopped in mid-upload.

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  8. Connie said on September 12, 2017 at 7:59 am

    I am pleased to share that my Republican congressman, the foreclosure millionaire, will not be running for a third term.

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  9. jcburns said on September 12, 2017 at 8:08 am

    I did some more poking around (now that we have power here in Atlanta) and found the image Nancy was trying to insert. Inserted! Punch line: restored!

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  10. BRIAN STOUDER said on September 12, 2017 at 8:54 am

    Nancy’s website was hurricane-affected!

    Well – not every blogger can say that

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  11. Julie Robinson said on September 12, 2017 at 9:20 am

    All hail the power of JC!

    But I’m still keeping my eye on Jose. No idea when our Orlando home will have power, but our daughter’s church is just down the block and does have it. She’s had it open since the curfew lifted for anyone who wants to recharge, cool down, use internet, cook in their kitchen, or watch movies.

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  12. alex said on September 12, 2017 at 9:35 am

    Hurrah for the psychoanalysts who call bullshit on the “Goldwater Rule.”

    Donald Trump is not anyone’s patient, so there is no confidentiality rule. In fact, no other branch of medicine has this rule. If your favorite linebacker goes down with a tear to his ACL in a football game, the next thing you will see is an orthopedist on television talking about the prognosis and the injury. Every other medical specialty feels free — and they should feel free — to speak out about public figures because it is a public service. In the field of psychiatry we call this “duty to warn.” When you gag the people who actually know the best about these things, then you leave the public with uninformed lay opinions.

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  13. Icarus said on September 12, 2017 at 10:19 am

    Ted Cruz is trending on Twitter and, in the words of Ed from GinandTAcos, sometimes life is so beautiful I can hardly stand it

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  14. Dorothy said on September 12, 2017 at 10:24 am

    I read about that Ted Cruz situation and am just laughing so hard. Already his staff minions are saying he was hacked, but of course we know otherwise, don’t we?

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  15. Dorothy said on September 12, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Thanks jc for the photo restoration. And how prescient was MY entry at 9:39 last night?!

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  16. Connie said on September 12, 2017 at 10:30 am

    And my comment yesterday about seeing early signs of fall on our up north trip last week.

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  17. brian stouder said on September 12, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Alex – that was a good article, although the guy over-played the Hitler card (maybe one reference would be OK, but 3 or 4 began to sound like a clinker)

    Anyway – here’s another ‘health’ article, which got my attention today (as I sat at my desk)

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  18. Suzanne said on September 12, 2017 at 11:36 am

    I woke up and checked Twitter this morning and Ted C was trending but I couldn’t figure out why. I had to Google it. Ick is all I can say.

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  19. brian stouder said on September 12, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    Well – the Senator just wanted to ‘shake hands with the Governor’, doncha know?!

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  20. Julie Robinson said on September 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    FW Media Watch on FB reports that seven of 17 News-Sentinel staffers have been laid off. I suppose it would be to much to hope Kevin Leininger is gone, right?

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  21. Jakash said on September 12, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    I was kinda expecting a more dramatic indication of fall than that. Not that I’m complaining, just saying! I’ve seen plenty of isolated dabs of color like that in Chicago already. And some of the trees with the little leaves that turn yellow and get all over one’s car are well on their way. Seems like it’ll be an early fall around here, for sure. On the upside, this has been quite an extended period featuring my favorite temperatures any year.

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  22. Deborah said on September 12, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    Yes Jakash, I spent the morning walking around Chicago doing errands. Lovely day. Went to our favorite restaurant for breakfast, Xoco, another Rick Bayless place and an odd thing has happened there, they’ve lowered their prices and doubled the portions. That never happens anywhere? I could barely eat half of what I usually order and the total cost of our breakfast was 25% less than it usually is.

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  23. brian stouder said on September 12, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Well, Katy Tur wrote a book about the 2017 campaign – and I will absolutely buy her book.

    She’s the bravest person on shoe leather, in my opinion

    At campaign rallies, Tur said, Trump would fire up crowds by mocking the media in ways she feared could inspire a supporter to act on. She also told Lauer that it was “jarring” and “scary” when Trump singled her out at campaign rallies.

    “It was one of those feelings that I don’t think I’ll ever be able to shake,” said Tur said…

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  24. brian stouder said on September 12, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    make that ‘the 2016 campaign’!

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  25. Dexter said on September 12, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    Yep…I noticed a total-yellow tree today, and my maple is dropping leaves already. I am still trying to figure out what sort of omen it was when that bird (now confirmed: owl) landed by my van’s door and stared at me. That was the hi-lite of my summer. Very cool.
    of course, I am still known as “Nite Owl” or “Night Owl” on several sites & blogs.

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  26. Suzanne said on September 12, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Apparently Mike Huckabee tweeted this in response to the Ted Cruz Twitter kerfuffle:

    Leave @tedcruz alone! He didn’t like PORN-he liked CORN and it was his first overture to Iowa voters for 2020! Sheesh! Case closed!

    Because that is hilarious to somebody somewhere I guess. I guess Anthony Weiner was just making overtures to young women, too.

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  27. Jolene said on September 12, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Ron Brownstein is the rare reporter who loves numbers. Here he uses a few facts and figure re energy production and consumption to show why the GOP is unlikely to move on climate change regardless of how many hurricanes we experience. I mean, I knew they liked oil in Texas and coal in West Virginia, but I didn’t realize fossil fuel interests and political positions were quite so closely aligned.

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  28. Deborah said on September 12, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    I see that Edith Windsor died, she was 88.

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  29. Julie Robinson said on September 12, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Oh no, I see autofill changed my “too much” to “to much” up the thread. It’s one of my pet peeves when people make that mistake. Hanging my head in shame, and slithering away.

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  30. Sherri said on September 12, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Three accusers were enough to stop his re-election bid. Now five accusers have forced his resignation.

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  31. Deborah said on September 12, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    Sorry to hear that the Seattle mayor had that sexual problem, we thought he was a great mayor. If he was taking advantage of minors that’s just wrong.

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  32. Brandon said on September 12, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    @Julie Robinson: On that note, I just found out the Honolulu Star-Advertiser is laying off nearly ten percent of its newsroom staff, including two columnists.

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  33. Brandon said on September 12, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    (I miss the edit button.)

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  34. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 12, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    Is that a Gannett shop, Brandon?

    Here in east central Ohio, it feels as if the last week has done a sharp on-two-wheels swerve into fall from summer. Trees and meadow foliage have all abruptly shifted in tone and tint.

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  35. Julie Robinson said on September 12, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    Brandon, could have used that edit button today myself!

    I know we shouldn’t be surprised when newspapers continue to slash jobs, but I am still sad. Almost no one I know still reads one, or if they do, only when an article comes through their facebook feed. Our own children, who grew up watching their parents read two papers daily (and seeing their Dad proudly go off to work at Fort Wayne Newspapers), don’t ever read them or see them as relevant. They also don’t ever watch live TV or listen to the radio. Dead and dying industries.

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  36. Deborah said on September 12, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    Just watched the Jim Jarmush film, Paterson. A very typical Jarmush film. Adam Driver plays the main character named Paterson, it takes place in Paterson, NJ where the poet William Carlos Williams was from. I recommend it if you like Jarmush films as much as I do.

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  37. basset said on September 12, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    Went out Sunday afternoon to continue getting ready for deer season, for me this involves some walking around soybean fields with woods close by on all sides.

    Just last week it was a struggle, plants catching on my legs and brush encroaching from the sides, but Sunday it was a lot easier. The beans were turning yellow, the woods plants are pulling in, just felt a change from strength and growth and outward energy to curling up and starting the long contraction toward winter.

    Avocado toast for breakfast this morning, business meal at a place I wouldn’t normally go but I didn’t pay for it. Quite good, I didn’t realize it was such a social dog whistle but at my age I could give a shit. Will bring Mrs. B back there and tell them to leave the pico de gallo off hers.

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  38. beb said on September 12, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    alex @12: There’s a difference between a torn tendon in an athlete and a diagnosis of craziness in a person. A tendon is a real thing. Everyone knows exactly what it does and how a tear affects the person. Psychology is all about stuff in your head. There’s no physical, unmistakable evidence for paranoia, narcissism, obsession, etc. It’s all speculation. That’s why psychiatrists need to circumspect about making remote diagnoses.

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  39. Sherri said on September 12, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    We reached 80 Monday and will be in the 70s most of this week, but it looks like fall arrives Sunday evening, when the rain is expected to start. Next week is rainy and only in the low 60s. Even this week, the 70s and 80s aren’t the same, because the days are so much shorter.

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  40. Dexter said on September 13, 2017 at 2:01 am

    Blago abides.

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  41. Brandon said on September 13, 2017 at 5:25 am

    Jeff, the Advertiser was owned by Gannett. Black Press Ltd., which owned the Star-Bulletin, acquired the Advertiser in February 2010, but had to sell the Bulletin as part of the deal. Eventually, both papers were merged into the current Star-Advertiser.

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  42. alex said on September 13, 2017 at 7:37 am

    beb @ 38: As the author was saying if you bothered to read the article, a psychoanalyst can tell a lot about what’s going on inside someone’s head by observing speech and behavior. The objective facts that Trump is a compulsive liar, is self-aggrandizingly delusional and is devoid of empathy are not in dispute.

    Julie, I’d take with a grain of salt (and then some) anything coming out of Miss Media Watch. That pretentious old bitchy queen has the same sociopathy as the Donald.

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  43. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 13, 2017 at 8:12 am

    For the Lutherans among us, and for everyone with the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation coming up next month, and because of the general state of the world, I bring you: the Luther Insult Generator.

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  44. Suzanne said on September 13, 2017 at 9:08 am

    Having watched the PBS Luther documentary last night, I thank you for this, Jeff (TMMO)!

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  45. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 9:14 am

    Marty… Marty Luuuuuther, pop of the Lutheran church. We used to sing that in Walther League.

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  46. Peter said on September 13, 2017 at 9:15 am

    Thanks Jeff – I clicked that link and I got: “God has punished you by making you incapable of understanding truth, virtue, or honor…” and I’m like HEY do I look like Donald trump??

    OTOH, is it just me, or has Trump been somewhat tolerable the last few days? I guess two hurricanes can do that to a person. I don’t know what’s worse – the loathing and disgust, or the emptiness from the lack of loathing and disgust.

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  47. brian stouder said on September 13, 2017 at 9:55 am

    The orange-topped bag-of-wind was upstaged by the red-topped* bag of wind, thanks to the fake media!

    *afterall, the television graphics supply the scarey red blobs on the radar images; the storm wasn’t actually RED, afterall!**

    **Oxy-Rush Limbaugh his-own-self made that (inane) graphics point

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  48. alex said on September 13, 2017 at 10:39 am

    Blagojovich is doing hard time with violent criminals for trying to sell a fucking Senate seat. If there’s any justice, Trump will get a lethal injection for his misdeeds and they’ll use the slow-acting misery-causing concoction that they use in Texas.

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  49. Jeff Borden said on September 13, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    I have a question for the NN.C community. How do you feel about Hillary Clinton and her new book? There is no question in my mind she won the popular vote by a substantial margin despite the horrifically ugly campaign and all the horrible shit thrown at her. I understand the urge to shine some light on her experience while simultaneously pocketing some serious cash for sharing them.

    And yet. . .

    I find myself exhausted by her and wishing she would step away from center stage and let some new liberal voices emerge. Our country is being run by wanton criminals and sociopaths. Just 10 months into the reign of the Orange King, you could make a strong case that this is the most corrupt administration since Ronald Reagan. It’s imperative Dems step up, yet the party seems obsessed with fighting old wars, whether it’s how Bernie Sanders damaged Clinton or her incredibly tone deaf remarks on putting coal miners out of work and describing the followers of her opponents as “deplorables,” however accurate that might be. It is over.

    Does anyone else long for fresh faces and voices to make the case for liberalism? Or am I discounting Clinton too much? I want to roll up my sleeves and get to work erasing this administration, but who is there to rally progressives? And, no, I don’t think Sanders it the answer. We need young blood and fresh ideas.

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  50. Sherri said on September 13, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    There are fresher faces trying to step up, and other than this book, Hillary has been pretty quiet. Sanders has been the one making the noise, clearly positioning himself for a 2020 run, despite not being a Democrat.

    Kamala Harris, Kristin Gillibrand, and Cory Booker are all stepping up as fresh voices, and are being attacked as insufficiently left wing, whether it’s from real BernieBros or fake Russian BernieBros, who knows.

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  51. Heather said on September 13, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    I agree with Sherri. Hillary’s not running for office. She went through something that would have destroyed most people, and if she wanted to write a book about it, that’s fine with me. If anything the book is highlighting all the unhinged Hillary-hate that’s still out there.

    I get that people are having a hard time with it though. The best metaphor I heard was from Erin Gloria Ryan on a recent Pod Save America, was that it was like someone who ran over your dog nine months ago coming to you to tell you how sorry they are. You get it, you respect it, you understand it, but it’s still painful.

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  52. brian stouder said on September 13, 2017 at 12:33 pm

    Heather’s point is well taken – although I’d say Trump ran over the dog; he went Russin’ down the street (couldn’t help it!) and ran over HRC – despite that she was in the cross-walk and had the right-of-way (aka – won more votes)…and then HRC felt the need to explain what happened from her perspective (and I’m all ears!)

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  53. brian stouder said on September 13, 2017 at 12:33 pm

    make that “Russian” down the street…!

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  54. Peter said on September 13, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    Jeff, we’re past Reagan and Nixon corrupt and are neck and neck with Harding.

    I think Hillary has figured out that she’s this generation’s Adlai Stevenson. Or Moses (the biblical Moses, not the Robert Moses). Normally, this would be the best time to come out with a book – midterms are over a year away, good time to analyze what the hell happened, etc., but the yahoo in chief is such a vacuum skull that everyone’s on high alert and no one has time or inclination to revisit her story.

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  55. Jeff Borden said on September 13, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Excellent comparison with Adlai Stevenson, Peter.

    I meant no disrespect to HRC. It would’ve been kickass to follow the election of America’s first black president with its first woman president. And she would have been a good president, I think. Our nation would be immeasurably better off had she won. (Did you see how SCOTUS upheld the Texas gerrymandering by a 5-4 vote? Fuck Neil Gorsuch.)

    Man, there is going to be damage the equal of Harvey and Irma to clean up once the Orange King and his minions are driven from power. I hope we are up to it.

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  56. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 1:04 pm

    I think Hillary wrote her book more as therapy for herself which she had every right to do. She got steamrolled, even though she won the popular vote. She got disrespect from all sides, it would have flattened anybody. The fact that she had the wherewithal to actually string a series of words together to write a book after that impresses me. I will buy the book and read it, if for nothing else in sympathy for what we put her through. Our country would be in such better shape if she was president now, I’m convinced of that.

    On a side note, there’s something weird going on in the economy right now. I don’t understand it at all and neither do many economists. Why is there little to no inflation and what does that mean? Is it a good thing or a bad thing. If anyway can explain this to me in the simplest terms I’d appreciate it.

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  57. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Any one not anyway. And I forgot a few other grammatical errors as usual.

    Peter, I wonder how many people know who Robert Moses is outside of the design world. I could be dead wrong about that.

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  58. Jakash said on September 13, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    “You are an abominable arch-heretic.” Can’t argue with that, Marty!

    Fine metaphor, Heather.

    I’ve longed “for fresh faces and voices to make the case for liberalism” for quite a while now. Obama certainly filled the bill. Beginning in 2012, every time I saw Hillary’s name mentioned, I hoped it would be because she’d decided to forego the ordeal of running again. And I wondered why there was nobody else waiting in the wings. Not because I don’t admire Hillary, or think she’d be a good president. I do and I gladly voted for her in the primary and election. But because I was worried she couldn’t win in this benighted country. I tried to pay as little attention to ole Rumpy as I could, until he got the nomination. Then I thought — “Well, if there’s anybody that Hillary can beat, it’s this creep.” While still thinking what a horrible gamble it was to have that charlatan as the opponent. Should make it an easy win, but if it isn’t… Despite my concerns about Hillary, I vastly underestimated the extent to which Dolt 45 would appeal to racists who might not have voted otherwise and how many “regular” Republicans would see their way clear to voting for an incompetent, dangerous, thin-skinned liar and cheat. Many because of how much they loathed Hillary.

    So, that paragraph doesn’t really address Mr. Borden’s question very well, I realize! I have no problem with her writing the book, at all. What puts her at “center stage” is all the people hyperventilating about it. Uh, politicians write books. People who have unprecedented, remarkable experiences write books. As somebody (“Frederick Douglass,” no less) wrote on Twitter: “You know who cares what Hillary Clinton has to say? The girl that will become the first female President of the United States.”

    If folks don’t want to read it, don’t. If you’re a trend-setting journalist who doesn’t want her to be in the news? Don’t write about her, for crying out loud. But it’s crazy how this is just like the email story, in a certain sense. What, for any number of male politicians would be a one-day, or one-week story just goes on and on when it has to do with railing against Hillary. It was bad enough when it was the vast right-wing conspiracy — to have the lefties carrying the standard at this point is repellent, IMHO.

    Up until I witnessed it, I’d never have believed that sexism would be a more potent force in the 21st Century in keeping a qualified person from the presidency than racism. But it seems to me that such was the case.

    Oh, FWIW, I’m way outside the design world and I know who Robert Moses was. : )

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  59. jcburns said on September 13, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    Jeff, I don’t think Mrs. Clinton’s presence on the stage sucks up all the spotlight. I think she’s earned her place—really a lifetime membership, as far as I’m concerned—in our national debate and discourse.

    I think fresh faces and voices (who are most welcome from me) can appear, get noticed, and flourish even as Clinton publishes, speaks, appears on talk shows.

    And besides, I’d rather hear from her than Kid Rock or Joe Walsh.

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  60. Jakash said on September 13, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    We watched that Martin Luther show on PBS last night, and I thought it was very interesting, indeed. It’s streaming online, if anybody is interested. I watched every second of “Downton Abbey,” but did not realize that the narrator for this Luther program was Hugh Bonneville until I looked at the site. D’oh!

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  61. Suzanne said on September 13, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    What I have never been able to understand is the abject hatred of Hillary Clinton. It’s totally irrational and yet I know so many people who would (and did) literally vote for Satan himself over her. I can understand not liking her, or being lukewarm, but the sheer hatred is something I don’t, and will never, understand.

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  62. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Suzanne, I don’t get that either. And Nancy Pelosi too, there are lots of people who despise her as well. Makes you wonder if it has something to do with gender.

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  63. brian stouder said on September 13, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    I recall having an irrational dis-like for a political figure (our mayor) something like 35 years ago. I was fresh out of high-school, and passionate about this and that and the other thing (and Ms Nall was turning out marvelous columns – in ink, on paper(!) – at the News-Sentinel) – and honestly, I cannot say why I didn’t like him, but I didn’t!

    By way of saying, rationality/logic had nothing to do with it; or at least, much less than youthful ignorance and mis-directed passion

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  64. Judybusy said on September 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    Pod Save America interviewed Ms. Clinton this week. There was a very disturbing snippet: there is a movement afoot to call a states’ convention to alter the Constitution. The people organizing this want to enshrine states’ rights into the constitution. She stated we are only a few states away from getting to the 38 to ratify changes. Has anyone else heard about this?

    They also asked her if she thought Trump constituted a clear and present danger to the US (or something along those lines). I expected her to hedge just a bit, But she firmly stated, “Yes.” and went on to explain why. It wasn’t anything I and many others haven’t been thinking, but I’m so used to pols equivocating that it struck me as remarkable.

    I don’t mind she wrote the book; not a day goes by when I wish she were our President. At the same time, it time for fresh faces. I really hope she’s not running in 2020. And I wish Bernie Sanders would just retire and get a new hobby, like yelling at kids to stay off his lawn.

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  65. brian stouder said on September 13, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    Judybusy – one of the prominent proponents of this lunatic Constitutional Convention idea is Jeb Bush.

    When he spoke at IPFW last year, I was going to ask him how on Earth he can call himself a “conservative” when he advocates for an wild & wooley “Constitutional Convention” which – by it’s nature – would not be predictable and would be the opposite of “conserving” anything!!

    Didn’t get the chance, though

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  66. Dave said on September 13, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    I think you mean yet another Moses, don’t you, Brian? That’s about the right time.

    Even I have at least a vague grasp of who Robert Moses was.

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  67. Julie Robinson said on September 13, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    Oh, but Bernie basks in the glow from the faces of his fans and isn’t going to tell them to go away anytime soon. And the Democrats need to attract his fans moving forward, so they need to start embracing the new faces or they’ll look elsewhere.

    I’m not one for reading political memoirs so I’ll skip this one too. Hillary should be our President right now, but I’m just not interested in the nuts and bolts of it all.

    We watched the Luther thing last night although I zoned out frequently. As a cradle Lutheran, there wasn’t any new material and the acting skills of the guy playing Luther were pretty poor. And I wonder how most people could even get past the horrible wig, and later beard, on the guy. Really, they weren’t bad on anyone else, just him. Laughable. I prefer the 2003 version, the one I call sexy Luther, since it stars the very fine Joseph Fiennes.

    Word from our house in Orlando is power back tonight, we hope. The heat is very wearing, and especially makes it hard to get good sleep.

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  68. Heather said on September 13, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    Judybusy, yeah I’d heard about that. And considering how spot-on HRC about about Trump’s ties to white supremacists, we’d do well to heed her warning. I’m hoping we can flip IL’s governorship to a Dem. I’ll definitely be doing some canvassing for that in future.

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  69. LAMary said on September 13, 2017 at 2:54 pm

    I know who Robert Moses was but I grew up 15 miles from NYC.

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  70. Jakash said on September 13, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    “And I wonder how most people could even get past the horrible wig…”

    Oh, I thought the wig was hilarious, Julie. I didn’t get past it, I marveled at it. Since I’m in the long process of having the hair on top of my head abandon me, I thought, “Yes, that’s the look I can go for when I’ve got a chrome dome!” It made Moe of the Three Stooges look like Brad Pitt, (or Joseph Fiennes, if you prefer.)

    Yeah, the acting on those live-action documentaries is usually not the best, but I wasn’t nearly as familiar with the story as you are, so I found the thing more interesting than just reading Wikipedia. : )

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  71. brian stouder said on September 13, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    So first, we had this article in the local news, presumably about some suburban kid who brought a gun to school; and the principal seems to be pooh-poohing it –

    and then this news broke, from Spokane, and there’s no pooh-poohing possible –

    (I suppose I’m angry because this looks a very great deal like more ‘white privilege’ than simple ‘local dunderheads’)

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  72. Suzanne said on September 13, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    Gun in the high school In Decatur is probably “no harm intended” because the kid is likely either a sports star or the offspring of one of the “good” families. I have lived in small towns. The residents have an amazing capacity to believe that bad stuff doesn’t happen there. An amazing capacity.

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  73. Scout said on September 13, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    Well, Jeff (tmmo), since you brought it up…

    “The history of sexist animosity against Clinton makes it hard to see the dismissal of her book as anything but more of the same. Though she’s a convenient and familiar scapegoat, Clinton isn’t hurting the Democratic party by sharing her account of history—it happened, after all—nor is she a roadblock to its moving forward.”
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    And this is also an excellent outline of why it is so utterly offensive to ask Hillary to “shut up and go away”:
    “Men’s failures and redemption narratives, however, go together like chocolate and peanut butter. There is an entire cottage industry dedicated to rehabilitating the images of men who have had real, significant, often criminal failures — athletes, pop stars, actors, politicians welcomed back to public acclaim with boilerplate profiles telling us all about their newfound gratitude, hard-won humility, and the love of a good woman, filed under headlines like “The Comeback Kid.”
    Hillary Clinton has not been — and won’t be — granted any such generous reprieve, despite the fact that her “failure” was spending 18 months campaigning, day after exhausting day, keeping up a ruthless schedule that would drive most people half her age to collapse after three weeks, giving up time with her family, sacrificing anything resembling free time or privacy, making countless sacrifices on behalf of this country in order to prevent the exact outcome we now call her failure, sniffing that she was a weak candidate, even though she was derailed by foreign interference, breathtaking unprofessionalism from the intelligence community, and a tsunami of misogyny, yet still managed to win the popular vote by three million votes.
    No, Hillary is told to “go away.”

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  74. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    In the category of privileged white people, our building in Chicago was chosen (with much tap dancing by the guy across the hall from us to make happen) to have a Claes Oldenburg sculpture in front, thanks to the city of Chicago for both providing it and paying for its installation (it isn’t permanent but don’t know how long it will be there). It’s not one of the better Oldenburg’s but it’s ok. Kind of looks like a crumpled piece of paper blowing in the wind, with an odd dark element at its base. The guy across the hall was very excited about its arrival a few months ago when he told me about it, then yesterday when they were digging the hole for its foundation my husband and I thought they might be about to plant another tree. I’d link to a photo of it, but it’s an obscure sculpture so according to my google search no photos seem to exist online, and probably rightfully so. I noticed it just a bit ago when I went out to do a run to Whole Foods. In some ways it sort of blocks views to the lake, not from our place above but from the plaza on the ground outside. I realize this makes me sound like an ungrateful bitch.

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  75. Jakash said on September 13, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Will it help me figure out which of those 4 buildings you live in, when we drive by on Lake Shore Drive, Deborah? That would be a plus! You told me once whether you lived in the black-window ones or the white-window ones, but I’ve forgotten. ; )

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  76. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    Well, we just got an email from the building administrators. The sculpture is called “The Architect’s Handkercheif”. I guess the dark part at the base represents the architect’s suit coat pocket (Meis van der Rohe) and the white part isn’t blowing paper but represents flowing fabric of a handkerchief. I’m glad we cleared that up.

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  77. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Jackash, we now live in the white windowed ones. We used to live in one of the black windowed ones. Ours now is the northern most white windowed ones of the four.

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  78. Jakash said on September 13, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Disgusting, but interesting:

    “A nauseating stalactite of sewage has been found beneath the streets of East London. The ‘fatberg,’ as the water company officials call it, is composed of diapers, wet wipes, fats, and oils that have congealed into a giant, repulsive mass. … roughly the weight of 22 African elephants or 70 cars…”

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  79. Sherri said on September 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    There’s a phenomenon akin to the glass ceiling, called the glass cliff, which is that women tend to get chances to lead only when the risks are the highest and men are less interested in stepping in. This happens in business and politics and other areas, and leads to a higher likelihood of failure, which means that those women don’t get another chance, unlike men, and that women in general are less likely to get a chance:

    There is no female equivalent of Richard Nixon; a woman losing to JFK and then losing to Pat Brown for governor two years later would have never gotten the chance to run for anything ever again. Hell, she would have been excoriated for even running for governor two years after losing the presidency.

    There has been discussion around women’s sports concerning the declining number of women head basketball coaches in Division I since the NCAA took over governance of the sport. One factor, as Stanford coach Tara VanDerveer has pointed out, is that if a woman doesn’t succeed somewhere, it’s hard for her to get another HC job.

    Men get the chance to fail in a way women don’t. People are more likely to give men the benefit of the doubt, blame the circumstances for his failure, while blaming the woman herself for hers.

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  80. Jakash said on September 13, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    Thanks, Deborah. Since you’re in town, I’ll wave when we drive by. ; ) I like the white-window ones better!

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  81. alex said on September 13, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    And to drive your point home, Sherri, that perennial loser and wooden phony Mitt Romney is going to run for Orrin Hatch’s senate seat if Hatch retires and he’ll probably win it handily.

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  82. Deborah said on September 13, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    In all fairness I should say regarding the recent Oldenburg sculpture installation that I observed it only from the back side, as the front faces LSD. In a way it’s appropriate as we are tucked inside the building (pocket). And this weekend is the beginning of the architectural biennial in Chicago, lots of exhibits and lectures going on. Historically Chicago has been a significant city architecturally. Not sure it lives up to that legacy anymore, but it’s still impressive.

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  83. David C. said on September 13, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    If you don’t care what Hillary has to say, don’t read her book. Just like I’m not about to read part-time Dem Bernie’s book. Neither he nor any of the bros have anything to say to me that I want to hear.

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  84. David C. said on September 13, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    On the lighter side, Shkreli’s bond has been revoked and he’s now in jail.

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  85. Sherri said on September 13, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    Remember how John McCain was on the Sunday morning TV shows every fucking week after he lost?

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  86. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 13, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    Scout #73; you’re confusing me with my spiritual cousin, Monsieur Borden. I have almost finished “What Happened,” and in the pantheon of post-election not-the-winner books, it’s one of the better reads of the last half-century.

    And I think the tsouris around “make Hillary go away” is more about the Dems anxiety about their bench than it is her missteps. She came very close (yes, yes, she won the popular vote, I know), and the Adlai comparison above is apt . . . and I wonder if she still has a legacy yet to build, not too differently than Jimmy Carter has done. She’s likely got a fair stretch of productive speaking and engagement ahead of her if she wishes.

    But the national political landscape for Dems is still pretty stark — Gillibrand, Warren, and the House duo of Pelosi & Hoyer, plus the loose cannon of Schumer. Kaine doesn’t seem to be building much, and Chris . . . what’s his name? Delaware? Julien Castro, and then I just come up dry.

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  87. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 13, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    Sherri, that glass cliff, or translucent dead-end, is also quite visible in church life, at least amongst my mainline Protestant kin. Women get a shot at “big steeple” pulpits when the congregation is on the downswing, or at general/national level judicatory slots when the structure is so precarious (and salaries frozen) that alpha males don’t even want to come in for the first round of interviews.

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  88. beb said on September 13, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    The fact remains that up to about a week before the election Hillary was leading in the polls and was expected to win, despite the “scandal” about her emails (Colin Powell did the same thing. No one criticized him.) Or her foundation, which did nothing wrong compared to Trump’s foundation. She was leading despite all the negative press from the New York times, which clearly had it in for her. She was leading despite Trump constantly called her “crooked.” She was leadinf despite all Putin’s efforts to elect Trump. It was only Comey decided to talk about an on-going investigation that might concern her but never mentioned the investigation into Russian involvement in Trump’s campaign, that her polls started to tumble without time to recover. Comey deliberately threw the election.

    As for her going away, Nancy LaTourneau of the Washington Monthly has a good discussionabout that…
    No one has ever told Mitch Romney to shut up and go away, to Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio or Rand Paul. If Brian is tired to Hillary it’s because of the decades worth of negative press directed towards her by republican and republican boot-licking media (cough*New York Times *cough) Hillary was reasonably quiet in the months after her defeat. It was the winner, Donald Trump who has kept bringing her up, wanting to dance on her corpse one more time.

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  89. Dexter said on September 14, 2017 at 1:49 am

    Anybody with basic cable & The History Channel just about has to know the Robert Moses story, and Mayor Win Moses was the fat guy in that short video from 1983 I posted that showed Ronald Reagan passing sand bags in Fort Wayne.

    Flynn’s son has the pedigree, does he not? Ass deep in his dad’s Russian mess, sonny boy has declared the totality of the mess “fake news”. Progressive sites exposed Flynn’s Russian connections as well as his interference in Turkey long before Trump made him NSD. I was shocked and outraged when that happened, and now look…of course Trump will pardon Flynn anyway, but geez…goddam crooks everywhere in the current White House.

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  90. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 14, 2017 at 7:27 am

    Chris Coons. Too sleepy last night to look it up.

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  91. Jenine said on September 14, 2017 at 9:30 am

    @ Jefftmmo, I like the idea of Hillary having a post-presidential race career something like Jimmy Carter’s. I applaud her efforts and can’t think too long about ‘what if?’ because it makes me so sad.
    I feel like it’s an accomplishment to get to Thursday this week. Nothing bad is going on for me, just lots of everything. It feels like the busiest time of the year for my work (college faculty support), my middle schooler and my high schooler. My husband the appliance repair guy is not so affected by the start of the academic year.

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  92. brian stouder said on September 14, 2017 at 9:54 am

    Sherrod Brown, baby!

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  93. Julie Robinson said on September 14, 2017 at 10:24 am

    Dexter, many of us don’t have even basic cable. We are long time cord cutters, and when we had a trial of cable some 10 years back it was a wretched experience. My dear hubby spent every evening clicking from one channel to the next, all of them seeming to feature nothing but angry men shouting at each other. Afterwards he even admitted it made him feel anxious. You couldn’t pay me to have it back.

    In better news, all our Florida family members have their power back. Our daughter’s church has some roof leaks, but nothing too major, and in the meantime she’s still staffing it as a place to come in and cool down, charge up, do some cooking, or drop off your kids while you deal with recovery issues. They did have extensive damage to their community garden and several trees, and while it’s sad, they are all replaceable.

    Our son, who works for the county, spent yesterday afternoon checking addresses to see if power was back. These were people who need medical assistance machines, and without electricity they had evacuated. He’s going to train to work in evacuation shelters; they felt they could use more help this time around and are already planning ahead.

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  94. Bitter Scribe said on September 14, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    With the possible exception of Al Gore, Hillary is the best president we’ll never have.

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  95. Deborah said on September 14, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Regarding fall colors: I’m in Rockford at Uncle J’s since last night. We see lots of extremely red maples around town but the handyman told us that they’re prematurely turning and that’s because they’re slowly dying from a disease that will take a few years before they’re all wiped out. He says it’s happening all across the upper Midwest and the northeast. That’s sad. Seems like so much is going wrong in nature these days.

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  96. Scout said on September 14, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    Jeff (tmmo) and Monsieur Borden: Apologies for mixing up my Jeffs upthread.

    I am very much looking forward to reading What Happened. Beb’s post at 88 is the perfect summary as to why what Hillary has to say does matter and why she is more than entitled to say it. Why she continues to be treated with such nastiness and disrespect, even from some on the left, is pure, undistilled misogyny and it’s infuriating as hell.

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  97. Connie said on September 14, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    In Michigan the current big tree disease is Oak Wilt Disease. Ash borers are still here too. Oak Wilt gets at the tree through damage on its exterior (including pruning) then spreads through roots to neighboring trees.

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  98. Icarus said on September 14, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    Until I married, I was able to say that I never had cable. When Nightingale moved in with me, I told her she could either have cable or a cleaning lady. The cleaning lady was the better spend of the money. When we bought our house we had to get basic cable for Internet, so you get local channels and some cable access stuff.

    Can anyone explain in simple terms this blue slip stuff? If McConnell wants to get rid of it, I can only assume we need to keep it.

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  99. Peter said on September 14, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    Deborah –

    I had not heard about the red maple disease – now THAT’s depressing.

    Robert Moses – I think a decent number of people know him from the Brooklyn Dodgers fiasco – Walter O’Malley wanted to build a new stadium for the Dodgers, but Moses said it could only be built on a site in Flushing Meadows that was close to the expressways. Some local councilmen in LA got wind of the pissing match, sent a group to meet O’Malley, and next thing you know the Dodgers are in Chavez Ravine.

    In the baseball world, O’Malley was vilified worse than Hillary (There was that old joke: If you were in a room with Hitler, Stalin, and Walter O’Malley and you had a gun with two bullets, who would you shoot? Answer: O’Malley twice to make sure he’s dead), but as time went on, Moses’s contribution became more apparent.

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  100. Peter said on September 14, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Oh, and I noticed that no one here has mentioned the passing of Frank Vincent, so why don’t you all go home and get your fricking shine boxes!!!

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  101. Sherri said on September 14, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    The blue slip process is pretty much just what it says in the article; it basically gives a Senator veto power over a judicial nominee from his state. If trump tried to appoint former Washington state Supreme Court justice James Johnson, who cited the “unique and binary biological nature of marriage and its exclusive link with procreation and responsible child rearing” in his vote against the legalization of same sex marriage, Senators Murray and Cantwell would almost certainly use the blue slip process to block it.

    On the other hand, the GOP also used the process to block Obama appointees. Normally, im opposed to the many, many procedures that preference the minority in the Senate and think we could do with fewer of them (the anonymous hold is the worst), but these aren’t normal times.

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  102. Deborah said on September 14, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    I guess I’ve only heard of Robert Moses in regard to urban design issues not sports ones so I’m the ignorant one, as usual.

    Uncle J’s new house is so pleasant to be in, not withstanding that his third wife doesn’t live here with him anymore. It is perfect for someone with Alzheimer’s. Very open plan, main living area on one floor, you can clearly see the kitchen when you are walking through, so you know exactly where you’re going. It has lots of windows letting in glorious light filtered through big beautiful trees. Plus there’s a full apartment in a lower level for a future full time care giver. It’s cleanly furnished with no gee gaws everywhere, like his former house with his third wife had. She had multiple pillows everywhere, so you could hardly sit, with fake flowers and trinkets all over the place. She lives for shopping and every day would come back with yet something else to gaudily display. Good riddance. My husband comes here every week between his classes from weds night until Fri morning. He is helping his uncle settle his affairs as his uncle asked him to do. Makes us think about how we need to think about getting our own affairs in order, things can get complicated if you let it go too long.

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  103. Jakash said on September 14, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    “You know less than does a log on the ground.” Old Marty Luther must never have heard of the Log Lady on “Twin Peaks.” Still, he’s got a point…

    But on to this review of Hillary’s book from the NYT, which is, Surprise! — infuriating.

    “It’s hard to buy the idea that she suffered disproportionately from charges of untrustworthiness or inauthenticity simply because she was a woman.” Say what, now?

    “Over lunch in 2014, Clinton explains, Barack Obama made it clear that he believed she was the Democrats’ best hope to keep the White House. ‘I knew President Obama thought the world of his vice president,’ she writes, ‘so his vote of confidence meant a great deal to me.'” This seems like a mild and interesting revelation to me, especially noteworthy since Gene Weingarten just got done saying in his weekly chat Tuesday that he’s confident Biden would have beaten Trump. If this anecdote is accurate, Obama evidently didn’t share that view. (Personally, I just think Biden couldn’t have beaten Hillary, so the point is moot…) Anyway, the reviewer sees this comment as a “dig at Joe Biden” and “a grim reminder of the worst we’ve read about Clinton: She needs a separate storage unit to hold her grudges — and her sets of tiny knives.” Uh, say what, now?

    Conclusion: “…2016 was a year when voters were pining for change. Bigly.” Uh, *some* voters. *Especially* the ones who chafed so badly at 8 years of having a calm, intelligent black guy as president. Pining for change? Does anybody doubt that Obama would have won reelection in a landslide, if he could’ve run?

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  104. Deborah said on September 14, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    I would say that reviewer has a set of tiny knives, if anyone does.

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  105. Jakash said on September 14, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    I hope it’s clear that when I said Marty Luther’s got a point, I meant about *me*, not anybody up-thread!

    As for Robert Moses, I’d read about the Dodgers’ move before, but the reason I’m familiar with him is that he’s (or at least was) pretty famous. Wikipedia says: “Known as the ‘master builder’ of mid-20th century New York City, Long Island, Rockland County, and Westchester County … and was one of the most polarizing figures in the history of urban development in the United States.” I wouldn’t be able to say a whole lot more about him, but I knew he was a controversial big-time urban planner in New York and that Robert Caro wrote an important book about him. For whatever that’s worth…

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  106. Peter said on September 14, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    And if I’m not mistaken, Shea Stadium was built where Moses wanted Dodgers Stadium.

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  107. brian stouder said on September 14, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    Pam just sent me a funny screen shot of a Twitter exchange between our president and our former SecState, which won’t copy/paste, but you’ll see it this evening.

    It’s an 11 pm (last night) twitter from our Twit-In-Chief, a petty cheap-shot at Ms Clinton; and she replies just before noon today, and smacks him silly!

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  108. Sherri said on September 14, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    The NYTimes should be ignored every time they dare to write Hillary’s name.

    As for Biden, he ran for President. Twice. He never came close to winning the nomination. He couldn’t beat Hillary in 2008. Sure, he was popular as a VP, but Hillary was popular as SoS, too.

    Believing that Biden would beat trump says that you believe that what the Dems needed was a more centrist white guy, that such a candidate would have drawn away some of the angry white vote. The BernieBros wouldn’t have liked him any better; he’s to the right of Hillary as a Senator. He wouldn’t have turned out the African-American vote any better, and probably not as well. Maybe, just maybe he might have swung enough votes in Pennsylvania and Michigan. But at what cost?

    I think counterfactuals about the race say more about the poser than the posed.

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  109. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on September 14, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    Brian, if you ever get a chance to talk to Sherrod, or to Connie (who is spending the weekend in our village at a writers conference here at Denison), you will come away with the clear and unmistakable knowledge that he will never run for any office beyond Senator. He was convinced, I gather, to let himself be vetted for VP as Hillary was campaigning, but that may have been to let them come to their own conclusion that he wasn’t being coy, he just wasn’t going to be VP material. He strikes me as an excellent sort of person for Executive office, but he really doesn’t want to go there.

    That conference:

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  110. susan said on September 14, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    This is a much better “review” of HRClinton.

    Damn it. I hate the Clinton-haters more than they hate Clinton. I hate the goddamned Rethug machine. And I hate AND despise Dolt 45 most of all.

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  111. Dexter said on September 14, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Peter: Heard on XM 99___ Joe Pesci sent condolences to his pal Frank’s family…a card to be stuck on Frank’s gurney: “Now go get your fuckin’ pine box!”

    And generally , was Hillary a popular Sec’y of State? The way the US was involved in the Qaddafi ouster was questioned hard. And Bernie to the right of Hillary? Bernie is a Socialist…he campaigned against Hillary from the left. Don’t you recall HRC sitting in The Green Zone in Baghdad sipping tea with the generals , on Sunday morning TV, praising the war and telling of progress and a quick end to the war if “we just continue to support President Bush by funding ‘our military here'”? I believe Biden , Bernie, and HRC are all too old now , so to ensure an end to the disaster of 45, I hope the Dems run Corey Booker for President.

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  112. Sherri said on September 14, 2017 at 7:09 pm


    Approval/disapproval of Hillary Clinton has much less to do with her actions than her enemies, and what they need.

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  113. Deborah said on September 14, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    I felt an instant attraction to Obama as a candidate when he ran for Senator in IL. When he spoke at that democratic convention in 2004 I was swooning. I have never felt that way for any candidate before or since. I’m leaning toward Kamela Harris now, but we’ll see. There are some very interesting younger folks coming up now but Trump is sucking up all of the air when it comes to attention. We need to learn more about the up and comers and less about the orange menace. Please.

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  114. Dexter said on September 15, 2017 at 2:52 am

    Un is off his fucking rocker. I have that bad feeling…I just hope I am wrong. He’s going to aim one of those rockets at Guam . I am really getting sick of Un. What a mess.

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  115. Sherri said on September 15, 2017 at 10:41 am

    That Chinese hoax has some pretty incredible effects.

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  116. Jerry said on September 15, 2017 at 10:50 am

    Academics at The University of York have just released a list of 30 ancinet English words that have largely dropped out of use although the researchers think they are still useful. Myself I used to use the word slugabed (one who lies in bed too long through laziness)when our sons were young.

    Of more interest to this group may be the word “Betrump”. This is defined as to swindle, cheat; to trick, dupe, deceive. Seems somehow apposite.

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  117. brian stouder said on September 15, 2017 at 11:33 am

    Jerry – you betrumped a chuckle out of me!

    Deborah – I believe I had a man-crush on Barack, too…plus another on Michelle

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  118. Sherri said on September 15, 2017 at 11:51 am

    James Fallows on HRC’s book:

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  119. brian stouder said on September 15, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Sherri – I read the great article you linked, about HRC, and found it very engaging.

    And indeed, watching her on Rachel’s show last night was very good stuff, too

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  120. susan said on September 15, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    brian, did you listen to David Remnick’s interview with HRC that I posted @110?

    Link to interview

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  121. brian stouder said on September 15, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    I didn’t, but I shall – this evening

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  122. Deborah said on September 15, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    Lo and behold, I found an image of the Claes Oldenburg sculpture, The Architect’s Handkerchief, online just now although this photo is not of it in front of my building, I don’t know where it was in the photo

    I tried to take some photos of it earlier after getting back from Uncle J’s and the lighting was all wrong. Will have to try in the morning when the sun will be in the right place.

    Off to the opening of the Architecture Biennale at the Cultural Center later.

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  123. brian stouder said on September 15, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Interesting photo!

    It looks like something our North Korean friend would shoot across Japan, with a hanky stuck onto it

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  124. Deborah said on September 15, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Ha ha, good one Brian. This may be a photo of Mies that the sculpture was based on

    He is almost always photographed with a cigar. He must have smelled terrible

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  125. Judybusy said on September 15, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    I love the sculpture!

    My wife and I are going to a home tour tomorrow–all new build or remodeled by area architechts.

    Please think of us Sunday. It’s the memorial for our friend who was killed last month. I’m dreading going back into the world of hurt and pain, but really want to be there for our friend who lost her dear wife. Bev was part of a local GLBT business group, and they are having a fundraiser the same day for a Houston GLBT Center that was heavily damaged by Harvey. It might be just the salve we need.

    I’ll also be spending time in my garden, planting some new plants, including a peony my sister and nieces got me for my birthday. If I plant it on Sunday, it will always remind me of Bev.

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  126. Sherri said on September 15, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Rebecca Traister on HRC and anger:

    And perhaps the reason the press, and some of Clinton’s critics on both right and left, react to her legitimate, if arguable, critiques by furiously wishing for her silence is the same reason women’s public airing of fury has long been discouraged and cast as irrational: because if we allowed women’s resentments the same bearing we afford men’s grudges, America would be forced to reckon with the fact that all those angry women might just have a point.

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  127. Jolene said on September 15, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Here is James Fallows’s review of Hillary’s book. He, too. Is critical of the role of the press, especially the New York Times.

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  128. Jolene said on September 15, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Ken Burns’s new epic on the Vietnam war begins this weekend. In his WaPo review, Hank Stuever recommends that we watch all 18 hours.

    The Post has also created a set of podcasts to go along with the production. Supposed to be very good.

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  129. beb said on September 15, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    Good point, Sherri. In today’s news…

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  130. Jolene said on September 15, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    ICYMI, here’s Rachel Maddow’s interview with Hillary from last night.

    And here is her interview on the PBS NewsHour from Wednesday night.

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  131. LAMary said on September 15, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    Paterson is my hometown and my actor friend Jim and Martin Van Treuren are in the movie, Paterson. They’re twins, so if you see sixtyish twins in the movie, those are Martin and Jimmy. Speaking of home town pride: Cassini Huygens. About twenty years ago, maybe a little less, I was in Old Town Pasadena at night, probably taking my kids out for trip to a bookstore, and two people stopped us on the street and asked us if we wanted to look through their telescope. They were two of the top people from the Cassini mission. They showed up Saturn and told us about the mission and were so enthusiastic and excited about telling my kids about the Cassini mission. Carolyn Porco was one of them but I don’t remember the man’s name. Today the mission ended and it was amazing.
    I live in a place where people tell you about their Saturn mission on the street and they’re not crazy and my coworkers and I ran to the top floor of the building where I used to work to watch the space shuttle fly by piggybacked on a 747. Twice. It circled around. And my kids grew up knowing that when the Space Shuttle was landing at Vandenberg AFB, we would hear a double sonic boom. I think that’s so freaking cool.

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  132. alex said on September 16, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Judybusy, I’m struck by the prominence of the flat-roofed “international style” among the tour offerings. In Minnesota! Where the snow is heavy, no?

    Some of us here were just talking about the Michael Graves houses in Indiana a few weeks ago, and in particular their impracticality in this climate. Perhaps the bugs have been worked out in these new designs.

    There’s a Saarinen house in our neighborhood that’s being opened up to the public for the first time ever, but we’re skipping it. $75 a ticket and we’d have to drive in to town and take a bus back here when we could just as easily walk over. (The house has been gated recently so you can’t get anywhere near it.) It was built in the ’40s and has a flat roof, but I haven’t heard if it has any water problems. I suspect it does. I can tell you anecdotally that even our house and my parents’ house, ’50s mid-mods with low-pitched roofs (my parents’ is a “California style”) aren’t really all that suitable in this climate when it comes to snow and water.

    Today my partner’s busting moss off my parents’ roof with a power washer. Not too difficult a job given the low pitch of the roof and not too far to fall if you do. The redwood siding is all full of cooties too (not a California kind of problem but an Indiana one) and is gonna get blasted with an oxygen bleach formula as time allows this weekend. Next year we’ll stain it again, even though we just did it 4-5 years ago.

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  133. alex said on September 16, 2017 at 8:33 am

    Whoopsie, forgot the Saarinen link.

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  134. alex said on September 16, 2017 at 8:33 am

    And fucked that up too. Here it is again:

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  135. alex said on September 16, 2017 at 8:34 am

    Those folks need a copy editor. “Renowned.”

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  136. Diane said on September 16, 2017 at 10:21 am

    Deborah, I’m so glad you told us the name of the sculpture. When I first looked at the picture all I could think of was Sister Bertrille, the flying nun. But I like the sculpture, with or with knowing what it is.

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  137. Deborah said on September 16, 2017 at 10:47 am

    LAMary, That’s super cool. Have you seen the Paterson movie? There are lots of sets of twins in it, kind of a running joke (?) throughout. Again, very Jarmusch to have a reoccuring element in his movies.

    We were disappointed in the Architecture Biennial opening at the cultural center last night. Music was blaring everywhere and echoed off the walls of the place. It was a young crowd, which is a good thing, but the noise was uncomfortable for me and my husband (get off my lawn!). Many of the exhibits were vacuous, unserious for the cool kids I guess. The signage was horrible (as a graphic designer I notice stuff like that). This afternoon we’re going to IIT for a lecture by Kazuyo Sejima of the Japanese architecture firm, Sanaa. She was involved with the exhibit that IIT did for the Biennale, it was one of the better exhibits but still hard to understand. I had the help of one of my husband’s former students who worked on it to explain it to me, but the general public is going to be puzzled without more explanation (unless I’m underestimating everyone again). Sanaa has done some very interesting buildings around the world so I hope it’s an worthwhile lecture. They did the Glass museum in Toledo, OH if you’ve ever been there (Dexter?).

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  138. Deborah said on September 16, 2017 at 10:53 am

    Alex, I think Saarinen designed the campus of Concordia Seminary in Fort Wayne, didn’t he? I have never been there but remember hearing that when I went to a Lutheran college.

    Regarding the Oldenburg sculpture: it was made in 1990 and the artist said that where it is now is where he always intended it to be. For some reason it’s been moved around from place to place a lot. It will be here for a only year.

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  139. Suzanne said on September 16, 2017 at 11:31 am

    Deborah, Saarinen did design the Seminary in Ft Wayne

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  140. Jakash said on September 16, 2017 at 11:39 am

    I like that sculpture pretty well, too. Fun idea, title and execution, it seems to me. Plus, I imagine that the black and white complements your set of buildings nicely, Deborah. Thanks for posting the photo. Couldn’t you and your neighbors all chip in a couple bucks ; ), and buy it, so it could always stay in its intended location? A year is pretty good, though. Being a clueless, provincial boob, I’m not much for modern art, but a lot of Oldenburg’s stuff is easy to appreciate…

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  141. Colleen said on September 17, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    I am currently reading HRC’s book, and finding it quite interesting. Regarding her marriage, she essentially says what’s been said around these parts quite often….no one knows what goes on except Bill and Hill, and it’s really nobody’s business but theirs.

    I think misogyny is a HUUUGE reason for the Hillary hate. Huge. No male politician is the recipient of so much out and out hatred as she is.

    As I said, I think the book is interesting, and though I haven’t read the entire thing yet, it is definitely NOT about how it was everyone else’s fault that she lost.

    Saw a humorous line on FB last night…”Hillary Clinton could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and do nothing, and people would say she shot someone”….

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