Of course he did it.

I see you guys pounced on the Carroll story, as I figured you would. I wish I could say I was surprised by the reaction, but I’m not, not at this point, anyway. And the reaction? At least on social media, it boils down to a few main themes:

1) It’s entirely made up by a crazy woman to sell books, I guess because it’s so much fun to interrupt your career as a successful writer to have people sending you death threats.
2) It never happened because she’s so old and ugly. That it happened 20 years ago is still incomprehensible to these people, because she was 52 at the time, and 52? OMG gross, etc. That was even older than Trump at the time, and anyway…
3) …he has a type, and you’re not it, you crazy lying attention-starved crone. That E. Jean Carroll was once young and lovely, and middle-aged and still lovely, is too hard for them to understand, so they have to default to her not being a Trump Type, i.e., Melania/Ivanka/Lara/Kimberly Guilfoyle/Hope Hicks, et al, i.e., long legs and big fake tits and barrel-curled hair.
4) Maybe something happened, but not like that. This last was a one-off, admittedly; I read one comment from an incel who suggested that what really happened was, she actually tried on the lingerie and modeled it for him, capping it off with “probably the last time she was able to have natural lubrication,” which is how I know this guy must be an incel.
5) I’ve been to Bergdorf Goodman, and based on this knowledge I am certain there is no way they could have been alone in the lingerie department. I imagine these people are the ones who examine satellite images of FEMA death camps and blueprints of Comet Ping Pong to find the hidden child-trafficking sex dens.
6) Finally, where’s the evidence, bitch? Because of course a department store keeps tapes — and they would have been tapes, then — of its fitting-room cameras for 20-plus years. And so on.

For the record, I believe her. Because:

1) This fits a pattern, well-established by now and testified to by a couple dozen women — the abrupt push against a wall, the forceful kissing, the fumbling.
2) He grabbed her you-know-what. He’s said he likes to do that.
3) He’s impressed by people who are on TV; that’s how he recognized her.
4) He told her, “you’re in good shape,” more or less precisely what he told the French first lady on one of their meetings. It seems to be how he expresses amazement that a woman older than the man she’s with might actually be appealing.

As for her old-ass looks — ooh, gross! a woman over FIFTY? — not only is E. Jean Carroll still quite striking, in her youth she was — and I have this on good authority — an absolute knockout. Tall, slim, beautiful.

You know what? Fuck this guy, and fuck all the guys who defend him, and then set fire to the whole pile of them. The fat between their ears should make for a nice blaze. Reading that article ruined my Friday afternoon. I was in a bad mood for hours. A beautiful young girl got on the #31 a few stops after me that morning, and I got to watch the so-called male gaze, as many turned to look at her as she passed. That’s never a good feeling to be on the opposite end of, and not much fun to watch. I know men will always look — it’s their nature — but it’s one thing to shift your eyes, and quite another to turn your head and bug out your eyes like something in a Tex Avery cartoon. Practice the first kind.

Palate-cleanser: I got my hair cut this weekend, and as I came in, a man was checking out with two exquisitely groomed standard poodles, both white. Neither had the full Westminster Kennel Club clip with the strategically placed little balls, but they looked like they got their hair did about every five minutes. I petted one, and he left. Asked my stylist what-the, as the salon only handles human heads. She said he comes in every few weeks with both dogs. For a pedicure, or rather, to have their nails painted. No, I didn’t notice the color.

I’m reading a wonderful novel now, too — “Fleishman is in Trouble,” by Taffy Brodesser-Akner, an NYT magazine staff writer, and one of those bylines I always turn to with pleasure. It’s fantastic, but I’m not done yet. A fuller review when I am, but if you’re looking for something to read on vacation, you won’t be disappointed.

It’s been a lovely weekend, but it’s coming to an end. Time to start thinking about children in concentration camps again. Not to bum you out.

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64 responses to “Of course he did it.”

  1. Deborah said on June 23, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    The E. Jean Carroll story rings so true to me, of course he did it. Even Kellyanne’s husband believes it’s true.

    I finished reading Patchett’s State of Wonder and Suzanne hit the nail on the head about Patchett, there were parts that can only be described as preposterous. I did manage to read it all but I don’t think I’ll be reading anymore Patchett books.

    I’m looking for a good book to read now, I’m going to look into Nancy’s recommendation. I leave NM a week from Tuesday for first Chicago then France so I need something to carry me through the airports and flights.

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  2. LAMary said on June 23, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    As if a woman can’t possibly be attractive at 52. Jennifer Lopez is 49. I don’t think she’s going to let herself go over the next three years. Not only that, rapists go after anyone. The comments you mentioned are thoroughly disgusting. I hate the news these days. I keep reading and watching and listening to NPR. How are we going to turn this shit show around?

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  3. Heather said on June 23, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    All of those excuses are so dumb, but the dressing room one is especially vapid. Oh yes, as we all know, women’s dressing rooms in department stores are as closely guarded as bank vaults at all times. Eye roll.

    I don’t think most men understand quite how incandescently angry women are about this shit.

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  4. Bitter Scribe said on June 23, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    The most attractive woman at my company is in her 50s and has a daughter in high school (while still having the body of a high-school kid herself).

    Trump’s fans are never going to believe anyone who accuses him of anything. When he said he could get away with shooting someone on Fifth Avenue, he meant it.

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  5. Suzanne said on June 23, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    A couple of years ago, I was in a department store, Carson’s maybe. I saw no one. No clerk, no other shoppers, no one. Went in the dressing room, tried on clothes, and left the dressing room. Never saw anyone. So, her story is completely believable to me.

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  6. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on June 23, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    No one supporting Trump as of last Thursday is going to stop supporting him Friday because of Carroll’s statement. The question is why they were still supporting him on Wednesday.

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  7. Sherri said on June 24, 2019 at 12:28 am

    I think trump supporters decided long ago that they were fine with whatever long ago, so nothing penetrates their distorted view of reality.

    And Heather, I agree, I don’t think most men grasp the level of rage women feel these days.

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  8. Gretchen said on June 24, 2019 at 12:56 am

    Since he had a pattern of taking women shopping and then moving on them, it’s possible he gave a clerk a few bucks to make herself scarce so he wouldn’t be interrupted.

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  9. Dexter Friend said on June 24, 2019 at 2:13 am

    Since I already weighed in on the Carroll story, I’ll offer a Netflix recommendation, simply titled “Locked Up”. It’s dubbed over espanol, but easy to follow. It’s really damn intense, really good. Women inmates, a harder case on these women than “Orange is the New Black” gave us. This series is a hair-raiser I’d say if I had just one hair on my noggin, which I don’t. 🙂 Oh, yeah, guess what? The hard rain is back after a lovely weekend. And …another murder here, just 0.8 mile from my home, a beating in a motel room, beat to death. We seem to get 2, 3 a year here.

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  10. alex said on June 24, 2019 at 7:22 am

    Dex, I’m assuming you’re talking about one of those places no longer in the hospitality business. Lot of those around here, and they make the squalid Florida trailer parks on COPS look absolutely posh.

    I guess we’ve come to accept this as commonplace, along with gun violence. In the WaPo today there’s an item on the Iran debacle that compares Trump to an arsonist who takes credit for putting out his own fires. But isn’t the NRA doing exactly the same thing when it insists more guns are the solution to the gun problem?

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  11. Connie said on June 24, 2019 at 9:05 am

    I never herd of Cleveland Tennesee until it came up in comments the other day. Today in the Washington Post we see hundreds of people come to Cleveland for a weekend of free charity health care. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-clinic-of-last-resort/2019/06/22/2833c8a0-92cc-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html?utm_term=.76fec02567a1

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  12. Dorothy said on June 24, 2019 at 9:23 am

    I’ve started a new E book, “Code Name: Lise”. It’s the true story of the most decorated female spy in WWII. I heard a review of it somewhere and the reviewer convinced me it was going to be a wonderful read. If I could just put down the knitting and quilting projects long enough to read I’d be able to get through a book. I’m also directing a play that was one of the six selected for a new works festival in Dayton. We open the festival and only do one performance. My cast is working hard and I’m really hoping to do a good job for my first directing job here. This gig is not for any financial gain – it’s just a nice way to fill my evenings. I haven’t directed in about 6 or 7 years so this feels good to be in charge of a show, especially a brand new play.

    I hope the worst is behind us for all the sickening things Dumpy says or does, but knowing what I know, I’m sure there are lots of sh** stories that are ahead of us, the least of which is the potential for war with Iran. I don’t care what this makes me look like – I fully confess to regularly hoping that the Dumpster Fire in the White House gets a fatal disease and succumbs rapidly. Or it might be kind of exciting if Melanoma picks up a kitchen knife and sends him to his demise via the back staircase. As long as he’s not breathing anymore, I don’t give a damn how he attains that status.

    That ought to get ol’ Pilot Joe frothing at the mouth, eh?!

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  13. basset said on June 24, 2019 at 9:45 am

    I just picked up a part time, very part time, few hours a month gig writing questions for a string of bar trivia games. Quickly now, which state produces the most popcorn?
    Reading right now: “The Beatle Who Vanished,” about a session drummer who subbed for Ringo on part of one tour and is now, after a series of adventures and setbacks, either dead or in hiding.

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  14. Connie said on June 24, 2019 at 10:04 am

    Indiana.

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  15. Connie said on June 24, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Continuing in Dorothy’s vein I always recommend this book: Code name Verity by Elizabeth Wein. A novel about two young women who start out as pilots and end up spies in Nazi Germany.

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  16. Dave said on June 24, 2019 at 10:26 am

    Basset, without looking it up, is this book about Jimmy Nicol, who drummed for the Beatles when Ringo took sick in Australia? I thought that he was drumming for them for only one show and then was never heard from again. I took that to mean artistically, so to speak, not literally.

    If Trump dropped dead, we’d get Pence, who I thoroughly dislike but he’s not a dumpster fire. He’s already shown is what he truly is, though, as he looks on admiringly at whatever ridiculous thing Trump is saying.

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  17. Mark P said on June 24, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Here’s how to tell if Trump is telling the truth: he says something that makes him look terrible. Here’s how to tell if he’s lying: everything else.

    Of course Trump is guilty. He’s guilty of everything anyone has ever accused him of. We all know that.

    Sherri, I hope women turn their anger into votes. I think the only hope for our salvation comes from women and people of color. The old white guys have had their day, and it sucked.

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  18. Sherri said on June 24, 2019 at 11:13 am

    But is she likable*?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-06-24/elizabeth-warren-s-plans-for-u-s-economy-channel-fdr-s-new-deal

    *which really means, does she make the political press feel cool and important, not dumb and annoying. Hilary made them feel dumb and annoying, trump denounces them in public, but sucks up to them in private.

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  19. basset said on June 24, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    Connie, that’s what I thought too but it’s Nebraska.

    Dave, that’s the same book… he played eight shows with them until Ringo was well enough to come back.

    Just did some cipherin’ related to that tour, somebody check my numbers on this:

    the book includes a couple different accounts of what the Beatles paid Jimmie Nicol, one was pretty widely discredited (£2500/show and the same for a signing bonus) and the other comes from what he told an English newspaper in 65 and one other source, £500 and expenses for the whole (short) trip.

    So… using the Bank of England’s online inflation calculator, looks like that works out to £9953.41 today. Divide by eight shows, £1244.125 a performance in current pounds. US govt. exchange rate calculator says that’s equivalent to $1585.08… good money and a lot of drummers would love to be making that wage but it doesn’t seem like much for the biggest band in the world. (Who would that be today?) They did give him a gold watch, though.

    Sent from my iPhone

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  20. basset said on June 24, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    And he seems to do OK on this film, considering that there were no monitors and nobody could hear much of anything except screaming and carrying on:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hf9hi9NVyAw

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  21. Julie Robinson said on June 24, 2019 at 5:20 pm

    The pound was worth more back then, but it isn’t very much. Very few people in music make decent money, even on the periphery of such a big group. Neither of my libraries has that book, is it very new?

    Two more about women in WWII, Transcription, by Kate Atkinson,and Madame Fourcade’s Secret War, by Lynne Olson. The former is a great read but devastating, the latter still in my queue. I’ve added Dorothy and Connie’s recommendations to my list.

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  22. Dorothyp said on June 24, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    I had trouble accessing this site for much of the morning and all of the afternoon. But when i got home at 4:00 I was able to see it immediately. I’m wondering if anyone else had issues getting here today, or if it was just me. Which would make me think something odd was going on at my office.

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  23. basset said on June 24, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    Just finished “Hitler’s Girls: Doves amongst Eagles,” an account of how girls and young women were indoctrinated during the Hitler years… organizations were roughly equivalent to Brownies, Girl Scouts, and high school in age, and motherhood was the greatest goal. Two, four, or six children would get you a medal, eight a medal and a meet & greet with the Fuhrer.

    Julie, the book appears to be self-published and I’m not sure libraries would have it, got mine off Amazon.

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  24. David C. said on June 24, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    I did the calculation the other way around, Basset. I did the exchange rate in 1965 first (2.8GBP/1USD (fixed exchange rate at the time)) and put that through the US inflation calculator and came up with $11,382. So both are in the ballpark. I think the fixed rate messes up the inflation calculations.

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  25. Joe Kobiela said on June 24, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    No Dorothy I don’t care if you don’t like the President, I didn’t agree with the last administration,but then again I didn’t want his life to end, personally I think you wanting the President dead is very sad, perhaps you should get some professional help, maybe talk to someone to help with your mental stability.
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  26. Dave said on June 24, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    I think anyone who supports and maybe admires this president for (allegedly) saying it like it is needs professional help, Joe. I never, ever felt about any president the way I do about this one, making a mockery of the presidency every single day. If he dropped dead, I wouldn’t care, I can’t say that about hardly anyone, definitely not any other presidents.

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  27. LAMary said on June 24, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    Joe, I don’t wish the president dead, but if he died I would get over it quickly. I think having him go to prison would be more satisfying.

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  28. Jeff Borden said on June 24, 2019 at 10:11 pm

    Nothing is going to change the nature of the codswallop in the White House. He was born an asshole. He was raised an asshole. And he has lived his entire ugly existence as an asshole. Apparently, being an asshole is in the tRump genes, since his offspring are all assholes, too. They’re as loathsome a bunch as William Faulkner might conjure up.

    While my guess is the obese *president will likely succumb to some variation of disease based on a sedentary lifestyle, fast food diet and lack of sleep, I would prefer he exit this mortal coil to whatever hideous afterlife awaits such a rotten person AFTER his presidency. I prefer to see him crushed in the 2020 election. . .I mean like McGovern level crushed. It’s unlikely since his cult followers will remain faithful to him regardless and Republican gerrymandering, voter suppression and other dirty tricks will effectively keep a substantial number of voters from the polls. But for a man who defines his entire existence as “winning,” being turned out by the election would sting worse than getting spray tan in his eye.

    After St. Ronald of Reagan and now this shitty reality TV performer, I’m fucking done with entertainers in the White House.

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  29. dexter said on June 24, 2019 at 11:28 pm

    Alex, it’s the Colonial Manor motel , a thriving motel after many years in business. Once some city leaders brought Tony Bennett here for a great show…was around 1990. He and his entourage stayed there. I ran off the bleachers to shake his hand.

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  30. Dexter Friend said on June 25, 2019 at 1:13 am

    “After St. Ronald of Reagan and now this shitty reality TV performer, I’m fucking done with entertainers in the White House.” ~ A-men… A..men A-men, A-men, amen!

    The only person in relation as to how they treated skilled tradespeople who worked for them and were told to fuck-off when the job was done as wages fell due, was Aretha Franklin of Detroit. Talk about diversity. There you go.

    A couple weeks into October, 1972, in a televised speech or maybe it was a debate, Senator George McGovern told the nation that Richard Milhous Nixon was a liar. Apparently hardly any Americans wanted to hear that, and certainly did not want to believe it . That was just the last straw, and voters just killed McGovern in an awful landslide. And George McGovern was the most competent , most honest candidate ever. Thirty years later his equal, Senator Paul Wellstone, died when pilots fucked up and the goddam plane crashed. Point is, nobody in the world should be surprised when the electoral college installs ass-clowns like Ronald Fucking Reagan and Trump into office. 🙁

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  31. beb said on June 25, 2019 at 1:45 am

    Media Matters had a feature on how all the major newspapers ignored her story. There is something shameful about that. Elsewhere it was suggested that her story was ignored because she didn’t retail it the New York Times first. The Times reporters felt miffed by that so they ignored it, and all the other newspaper followed suite. if true this is a horrible blackeye to journalism. That I can believe this theory suggests how corrupt mainstream journalism has become.

    Point 3’s “She’s not my type.” sounds familiar, like Trump has used it before to disparage a woman making a complaint against him. I think any woman who offends him becomes a “nasty woman” or mean, or having blood come out of her whatever.

    Finally you have to ask, did we almost go to war against Iran just so Trump could keep her story out of the newspapers?

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  32. MarkH said on June 25, 2019 at 3:38 am

    I vaguely remembered the Jimmie Nicol story from way back in high school when I read Hunter Davies ‘68 book, ‘The Beatles’. Then was reminded of it a couple of years ago when Tom Hanks brought it up during a Fresh Air interview, tying it in with a story about ‘That Thing You Do!’. Basset, Nicol claims he was indeed paid the £2500 per show, plus that signing bonus, according to a 2005 interview in this link. He did ten shows starting in the NeDenmark and finishing in Australia. Some great little tidbits in here about the tour and what happened after. I wondered how Pete Best felt about all this.

    https://www.beatlesbible.com/people/jimmie-nicol/

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  33. MarkH said on June 25, 2019 at 3:44 am

    …Denmark.

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  34. Suzanne said on June 25, 2019 at 6:34 am

    I am reading Jared Yates Sexton’s book The Man They Wanted Me to Be. Sexton grew up in Indiana, raised by & around working class whites and their idea of masculinity. Every politician needs to read this. Every one. One quote sums it up: “Donald Trump’s rise to power was paved with tragic misunderstanding and the resulting anger and frustration. Men refusing to see the patriarchy for what it was and men completely unaware of the patriarchy’s existence found a fresh persona and accompanying political movement to reinforce their delusion. Their loyalty to Trump is unending because the fragility of their own masculinity is unending. As long as people like Trump continue to lie and assure them this isn’t the case, though, they will never have to face the sobering truth that the problem isn’t some external threat, but an internal defect.”

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  35. Deborah said on June 25, 2019 at 6:38 am

    A heat wave is going on in Europe. According to my weather app the place we’re going in the south of France, Le Thor, is going to have a high of 111° on Friday! I sure hope it’s all over by the time we get there in a couple weeks. Extreme weather!

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  36. Joe Kobiela said on June 25, 2019 at 8:18 am

    If you happened to be in Garrett Ind 36 years ago today, there was one hell of a wedding reception at the American Legion,11kegs of ice cold Budweiser,ham sandwiches chips, salad,cake,great music and a Lot of fun. Hope I get many more years with her it’s been a great ride.
    Pilot Joe

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  37. alex said on June 25, 2019 at 8:43 am

    Dorothy @ 22, I got a “server not responding” message for several hours yesterday so it wasn’t just you.

    Suzanne, I think Jared Yates Sexton is on to something. Because gender norms are so rigid in these parts, men can be particularly insecure about their masculinity. Occasionally I get “schooled” about things that would never have occurred to me, like just recently the color of my disposable cigarette lighter. Bright red, it struck one asshole as just a tad too pink. “Aren’t you ashamed to be carrying that thing?” he asked. “I found it in my yard. The price was right,” I told him, neglecting to add that he must be fucking crazy to concern himself about it.

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  38. Suzanne said on June 25, 2019 at 8:57 am

    Alex, Sexton also explains why Trump people were so ready to excuse his dislike of McCain, even though McCain was a verified war hero. Bottom line is that by being captured and tortured, he didn’t “live up to the image of of invincible and unbeatable warriors. McCain’s service and bravery were remarkable, but his courage was in the face of adversity instead of in the aid of victory. His story is unique to the Vietnam War, a conflict whose failure has left succeeding generations feeling emasculated and insecure.”

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  39. Julie Robinson said on June 25, 2019 at 9:32 am

    Dorothy and Alex, I couldn’t access the site most of the day yesterday, until late afternoon. That’s three of us.

    bassett, I took a look at the Amazon site, you’ll have to tell me if the book is worth $10. Our niece just self-published and I did buy that one although I’m not recommending it yet since I haven’t read it. I’m saving it for our vacation; it looks like a good plane read.

    Who had the timer running on #3, she’s not my type? Trump unleashed it yesterday, and Carroll riposted that she was glad she wasn’t his type. It seems obvious that his type is someone who doesn’t fight back and never discusses it later.

    Congratulations on the anniversary, Joe. I was just perusing Today in nn.c history over there on the right, how did seven kegs become 11?

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  40. Jeff Borden said on June 25, 2019 at 9:48 am

    This situation is beyond shameful. How have we let this happen to our country?

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/rex-huppke/ct-concentration-camps-migrant-children-border-trump-huppke-20190624-2c7lek62y5hnnabemjqevdjf5a-story.html

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  41. basset said on June 25, 2019 at 9:53 am

    Same problem here, got a server error or something like that message.
    Looks like Jimmie Nicol told at least two different stories in public. What’s for sure is that he had some problems afterward.
    The book’s certainly worth $10. The spelling and grammatical errors bother me but not that much, and where else are you gonna find an account of the rise and fall of Colin Hicks and the Cabin Boys?

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  42. ROGirl said on June 25, 2019 at 10:49 am

    I had the server problem, too. Trump supporters excuse his dislike of McCain because he was a pow? Seriously? A cowardly bully and congenital liar disses a man who almost gave his life for his country? Fuck him (Trump).

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  43. Joe Kobiela said on June 25, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Not sure on the kegs, was thinking 11,but like I said it was a hell of a reception regardless.
    Pilot Joe

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  44. MarkH said on June 25, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Happy Anniversary, Pilot Joe!

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  45. Dexter Friend said on June 25, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    Also,very early today YouTube was only showing a white screen with a spinning circling arrow

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  46. Scout said on June 25, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    PFJ telling anyone else on this site they need to check their mental stability is the epitome of irony.

    nn.c server was down yesterday for me too.

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  47. Sherri said on June 25, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    Verizon apparently broke a chunk of the Internet yesterday, so that’s why we couldn’t access the site for a while.

    I don’t wish trump dead, but I won’t mourn his passing. He’s an awful person, but he’s not the only one. His entire party is full of awful people at this point.

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  48. Dorothy said on June 25, 2019 at 2:27 pm

    You know I feel (sort of) bad that I said I wish him dead. But it’s the desperation I feel at the way the US is seen in the eyes of the world these days, and all the nasty stuff he says and does, that makes me feel that way. I wish I could make myself feel differently. It seems like that’s the best and fastest way to get relief from him – to wish him dead. But like some of you so aptly said it – seeing him defeated soundly and vehemently in November 2020 will be very satisfying. I can wait. And it will be even sweeter if the state of New York brings him up on tax evasion charges that he can’t wiggle out of. Maybe I’ll stop wishing him dead and instead wish that some responsible person will leak his taxes and any other damaging and irrefutable evidence of his crookedness. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Defeat, and then handcuffs! The mugshot will be DELICIOUS.

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  49. LAMary said on June 25, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    Deborah, when I read the name of the town in France you’ll be visiting I visualized a Norse god in a very chic outfit. Louis Vuitton leathers maybe?

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  50. Deborah said on June 25, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    Ha ha, LA Mary.

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  51. Suzanne said on June 25, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    This is something.

    https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html

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  52. Deborah said on June 25, 2019 at 3:02 pm

    This is where we’re staying in the south of France http://www.bastiderose.com/ if you click on Provence in the menu of the website there are beautiful photos of lavender fields etc.

    Our lavender patch in Santa Fe is going gang busters right now. The plants are over 3’ tall and at least 3’ wide. We’re starting to get bees galore finally. I was ready to pull the plants out early in the spring because they did not look good, I’m so glad I didn’t. I read that lavender is a perineal but they only last about 6 years. We planted ours 6 years ago, so this may be their last hurrah. The smell after a rain is heavenly. You don’t need cologne, just step out and rub the blooms on your wrists. We have a run of about 7 plants in a row along the side of the building under our living room windows.

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  53. brian stouder said on June 25, 2019 at 3:22 pm

    Suzanne – Good Gawd!! what an essay.

    And Fort Wayne makes it into the opening paragraphs…..

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  54. Dorothy said on June 25, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Boy, Suzanne. That WAS something. And DAMN that woman can write.

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  55. Heather said on June 25, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    Yes, that’s the story Nancy references in her post.

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  56. LAMary said on June 25, 2019 at 4:33 pm

    My lavender and rosemary are both thriving after the rainy winter and so far a mostly cool and damp spring and summer. I planted a jasmine vine and I’m hoping it will grow enough to make the air smell amazing on summer nights. All my previous attempts at jasmine have not survived the heat. I know it’s not very exotic, but I also have a lot of bright red geraniums. They are perennials here and they get grow to about three feet high and very wide, and you can take cuttings for new plants. I had a huge pink geranium plant but it got trashed by the deck repairs a couple of years ago,

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  57. jcburns said on June 25, 2019 at 4:46 pm

    The Internet is a little like a 40 year old lawn mower. Sometimes you’ll try and try and it just won’t start and then if you just walk away and leave it alone for a while and then come back to it, it’ll turn over first time. Thank you for listening to my Belabored Technical Explanation.

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  58. Scout said on June 25, 2019 at 5:20 pm

    Suzanne – wow. Thank you for posting the link to that. Incredible story, totally believable, and damn, what a writer. Not that it will move the needle with people who refuse to acknowledge what a total piece of human garbage DJT is, but it is a powerful story and I’m glad someone with her writing ability told it.

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  59. LAMary said on June 25, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    So Trump is saying that Ms. Carroll is not his type. Not the type he rapes? The woman who accused him of groping her on an airplane years ago was dismissed by him as “not my first choice.” I bet that bastard was not their first choice or their type either.

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  60. Deborah said on June 25, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    LA Mary, we had something called night blooming jasmine in Miami when I was growing up, it smelled fantastic and the blooms were white, luminescent at night, almost like a light source. It was hot and humid there so maybe they take a lot of water?

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  61. LAMary said on June 25, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    They do take water and they get watered regularly but when we get a few days in a row of 100 plus temperature and less than ten percent humidity watering doesn’t help.

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  62. Maria said on June 25, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    Deborah, don’t feel bad about the emotions that despicable man evokes. I have been reading about the horrible conditions of the incarcerated children at the border, and it makes my blood boil. Toddlers trying to take care of babies. Not enough food, no medical help, living in filth. All because our president sees a political gain in torturing children.

    How any decent human being can support Trump is beyond me. In fact I’m coming to believe that no decent man or woman would. If you support Trump, you support the torture of innocent children.

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  63. 4dbirds said on June 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm

    PFJ. I laughed so much at that.

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  64. Beullah said on July 4, 2019 at 1:34 am

    She’s a real beauty all right! LOL LOOK AT THIS PHOTO SHES A JOKE!!!!!
    https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/e-jean-carroll-gty-jpo-190623_hpEmbed_1x1_992.jpg

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