A nondescript building was torn down on our commercial strip here in Grosse Pointe Woods, to expand parking for an adjacent business I’m told. Look what was revealed:
Looks like it was painted yesterday. Without going to a library and doing serious research, I’d estimate its provenance as: Likely late ’50s/early ’60s, maybe? Our house was built in 1947. The “Pepsi-Cola hits the spot” slogan goes back as far as the ’20s, but it lasted years. Dossin’s was a local bottler, and a prosperous one — they commissioned the Miss Pepsi hydroplane. And there’s the phone number, with the old TUxedo exchange for this area. The Oxford Beer Store is still around, although it’s moved one door west and is now Oxford Beverage; it’s where Kate would ride her bike for frozen Cokes when that was her pleasure. This building is now a dry cleaner.
I mention this for two reasons: One, because one thing I noticed when we moved here was the abundance of wall-painted signage, just way more than you saw in Fort Wayne or Columbus, and lots of them are pretty great. So let’s celebrate the good ones. And the other? I’m sure some dipshit property owner or city father will order it covered with white paint before too much longer. So let’s at least say it was here for a while, and we all got to enjoy it.
We recently had a case here that may have gotten some national attention, a suburban man who put out a social-media call for others to go “hunting Palestinians.” He was arrested in fairly short order, by the police in Dearborn. I googled his name, and whaddaya know, he’s a troublemaker of long standing:
Carl David Mintz, 41, was charged Monday in connection with the alleged threat posted last week to social media in a case that heightened fears of fallout from the Israel-Hamas war in a region with a sizable Arab American population.
Mintz is a former school board candidate who ran on “ending critical race theory,” and was previously reported to have posted Islamophobic YouTube videos. He’s a also a licensed Realtor whose firm tells the Free Press it “released” him Monday after he was charged.
…In a 2010 road rage incident that grabbed headlines, Mintz shot 20-year-old Faith Said in the arm in Oakland County.
After an initial trial that tested the limits of self defense and ended in a mistrial, Mintz ultimately pleaded guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon, according to Free Press archives.
Another story said Mintz repeatedly tapped his brakes until Said got out of his car and approached, after which Mintz shot…him, I presume. Although the name is given in two places as “Faith,” I’d be willing to bet it’s really Fatih, which goes better with the surname.
Anyway, Mintz is your garden variety Islamophobe shithead, and we’ve all heard of the Palestinian mother and son wounded/killed by another Mintz in Chicago, so let’s worry about what some college students said about Israel.
OK, this will be it for the week for me. Heading to Columbus tomorrow for a long weekend, mostly reconnecting with old friends and family. So it’ll be great, I know it will.
You all have a great weekend.
Sherri said on October 18, 2023 at 10:03 pm
I counted 4 op-eds in the NYTimes about those terrible college kids, and zero about Tom Cotton and Lindsay Graham essentially calling for mass slaughter in Gaza. Who has any power to do anything other than speak? College kids, or US Senators? But those college kids were sooo rude!
They at least have time to learn and maybe change.
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alex said on October 18, 2023 at 10:11 pm
Fort Wayne doesn’t have a lot of cool old signage like that, although Club Soda still has faint old painting on the sides of it from its former days as an industrial building.
What we have now, however, are murals all over everything. Some are pretty cool. Some suck. But they’ve created an event around it called Art This Way (held annually, and just a few weeks ago) and it’s an art crawl outdoors that draws big crowds. I see kids getting their senior pictures taken in alleys in front of the artworks, or at least that’s what I assume is going on with all these photo shoots happening all the time.
And they’re doing similar things in small towns too. Auburn and Garrett are now sporting murals on the sides of old downtown buildings.
Gorgeous Pepsi ad. It deserves to be preserved for posterity.
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Deborah said on October 19, 2023 at 12:14 am
When I first moved to St. Louis in 1980 I remember seeing a lot of those cool old painted ads on the sides of brick buildings, but by the time I moved away 23 years later most of them seemed to be gone. Also in the 80s was when painted murals started to be a thing, maybe it started earlier but I didn’t notice it if so. As Alex said some are well done but others not so much. They seem to go in waves, they’re popular and you see more and then they fade and nobody cares. A lot of dried up downtowns in small cities thought they would enliven the slowly deteriorating surroundings and bring interest back, sometimes it worked for a while.
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Dexter Friend said on October 19, 2023 at 5:09 am
When we stayed in New Bern, NC for a few months with family in 2003, we visited the drug store where Pepsi Cola was invented. It’s now a museum. As you enter, you walk past a fountain where Pepsi Cola is offered to you in a small paper cup. For a few dollars, of course. We always drank Pepsi Cola because the bottles were 12 ounces of content while Coca Cola bottles were holding 6.5 ounces.
Who is believing that Israel was not responsible for the hospital bombing in Gaza that tore babies in half? I understand it depends , for now, on which side you favor; there is no independent investigation yet. The horror of this war, from October 7 to right now, is almost too much to watch on TV, let alone live through it.
Trump, Ramaswamy, and most repuggs keep pitching their pans to BUILD THAT WALL! Maybe they should take stock of Israel’s wall: 40, not 30, breaches on October 7, and not one breach was responded to by IDF, not one! Netanyahu has lost respect of his military. Netanyahu, the hated leader, hugging Biden in Tel Aviv made me sick. Netanyahu , the Trump loving criminally indicted maniac. Well, he trails Trump in indictments, 91-4.
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Dorothy said on October 19, 2023 at 5:27 am
I’m heading out of town today, too, and come home next Tuesday. This will be my first time experiencing the New York Sheep & Wool Festival in Rhinebeck. My daughter and I have been looking forward to this for at least 4 or 5 years. The pandemic messed up plans, and last year during this weekend we went to Disney with my son and his family. The family connection this weekend is even better since we’re staying at my sister’s in Poughkeepsie. Lots of time to talk and laugh with people I don’t get to see very often!
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Julie Robinson said on October 19, 2023 at 8:48 am
Have fun, Dorothy, and wear your mask.
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LAMary said on October 19, 2023 at 9:32 am
I haven’t seen a lot of painted advertisement signs on walls here but mural? We got’em. Here’s an amazing mural that’s in progress.
https://sparcinla.org/programs/greatwallinstitute/
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Suzanne said on October 19, 2023 at 10:12 am
Indiana in a nutshell. Almost all of the Best Places to Work in Indiana 2023 are in Indy or nearby.
https://www.indianachamber.com/best-places-to-work-in-indiana-companies-named-for-2023/
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Dexter Friend said on October 19, 2023 at 10:45 am
Sidney Powell just shocked the world by pleading guilty in Georgia. Why? They gave her probation, that’s why. She knew her goose was cooked.Also she knew how life in a Georgia prison was not her cuppa tea.
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Jenine said on October 19, 2023 at 11:02 am
@Dorothy – that sounds wonderful, think of all the spinners/weavers/knitters you’ll encounter. Have a great trip!
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David C said on October 19, 2023 at 11:13 am
Lead-based paints made generations of people stupid but they sure did last.
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ROGirl said on October 19, 2023 at 11:54 am
And Sidney is going to have to testify truthfully in the trial. That should prove quite interesting.
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Jeff Borden said on October 19, 2023 at 12:54 pm
And Jockstrap Gym, the degenerate former wrestling coach at Ohio State, is no longer seeking the speakership. Apparently, being a raving asshole and bully isn’t a winning combination…even for the morally rotten QOP.
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Sherri said on October 19, 2023 at 2:00 pm
See, this is why the GOP hates elections! Eventually, just hating everybody else isn’t enough.
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Jason T. said on October 19, 2023 at 2:15 pm
Every old-time radio fan knows that jingle:
When now-U.S. Sen. John Fetterman was mayor of Braddock, one of his more popular ideas was repainting some of the old, faded advertising signs in the business district, and commissioning new hand-painted signs:
https://anthonypurcell.com/2020/01/15/the-hollander-project-hand-painted-sign-braddock-pa/
It cost very little but improved the appearance of the main street 100 percent. Grosse Pointe Woods would do well to preserve the sign, but I suspect it will be seen as déclassé.
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Jason T. said on October 19, 2023 at 2:19 pm
The Pepsi-Cola jingle — and I didn’t know this until right now — is based on an old fox-hunting song, “D’ye Ken John Peel?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT61HYjLBDk
I can only imagine what the reaction would be today if an advertiser 1. appropriated folk music for a jingle, 2. appropriated a song about fox-hunting for a jingle
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ROGirl said on October 19, 2023 at 2:52 pm
The version I learned was:
Pepsi cola hits the spot
12 full ounces that’s a lot
Tastes like vinegar looks like ink
Pepsi cola’s a stinky drink
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Sherri said on October 19, 2023 at 3:03 pm
I find today’s news that Peter Thiel is an FBI snitch absolutely hilarious.
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Deborah said on October 19, 2023 at 3:50 pm
Ok, wait a minute, now Jim Jordan is back in again? I think Trump got to him, told him to get back in. I’ve been wondering how long it would take for Trump to turn on Jordan as he does with everyone, ETTD.
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Jason T. said on October 19, 2023 at 4:20 pm
ROGirl @ 17:
Obviously from the same minds that gave us
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Jakash said on October 19, 2023 at 4:20 pm
Cool!
After an extended stretch of lurking, this swell photo and post has prompted me to throw this into the nn.c mix. Ghost signs, as they are known, are numerous and somewhat popular around Chicago. Last year, a few were revealed on an old wooden building in Lakeview after the siding was removed. I wrote about my wife and I having “discovered” them, and our attempts to make them better known, in a Saturday piece for Neil Steinberg’s blog in July of this year. If you don’t want to bother reading the post, there are a couple links to Block Club Chicago articles included with it that offer some wonderful photos of the signs.
https://www.everygoddamnday.com/2023/07/works-in-progress-good-for-somethin.html
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Icarus said on October 19, 2023 at 7:23 pm
@Jakash you beat me to it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_sign
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Deborah said on October 19, 2023 at 7:55 pm
I had forgotten they’re called ghost signs.
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Deborah said on October 19, 2023 at 8:07 pm
Great read Jackash. I highly recommend everyone click on his link.
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Jeff Gill said on October 19, 2023 at 9:51 pm
1964 is the latest I can find a newspaper reference to the “Campbell Sign Company,” in Plymouth, Michigan.
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Jeff Gill said on October 19, 2023 at 9:57 pm
Jakash, that story was a delight. Thank you for it!
And for Jim Jordan, I only want to ask: “What is the real reason?”
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Dexter Friend said on October 20, 2023 at 3:54 am
“Till” the movie is now on Netflix. It is so sad. I kept thinking the makeup job on Emmett in the casket would make the late Dick Smith proud. Dick Smith was the legendary movie makeup man.
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LAMary said on October 20, 2023 at 8:50 am
Off topic: Costco sells bags of long, sweet, colorful peppers. Yellow, red, orange and purple. I buy them whenever they have them because they look great grilled roasted or in salads. I bought two bags on the way home from work on Wednesday, planning to split one bag and give it to my sons. Older son Tom was stopping by yesterday so I told him I had a some peppers for him. Son Peter is stopping by on Saturday. Pete’s favorite color is purple. I told Tom I was going to give all the purple ones to Pete because…
Peter Poole prefers partial packages of purple peppers.
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Jeff Gill said on October 20, 2023 at 9:44 am
LAMary – https://media.giphy.com/media/37Ez5CZ8P0jSM/giphy.gif
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alex said on October 20, 2023 at 11:53 am
Awesome Jakash!
I used to live off of Addison in East Lakeview and I’m aghast at how much things have changed every time I go back. Not only has Lakeview lost its urban grittiness but pretty much anything that was charming about it. But I totally geek out on stuff like ghost signs.
I remember watching an old church on Broadway being demolished. It was memorable for the inscribed keystone above the entrance which read “Evanston Road Methodist Church.” It was a few blocks south of the wooden Presbyterian church at the corner of Addison and Broadway, which is quite a standout. Hope it’s still there the next time I visit because everything else around it seems to be ugly and boxy and totally out of scale.
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Deborah said on October 20, 2023 at 12:29 pm
“Ugly and boxy and totally out of scale”, describes a lot of architecture in cities today.
I love how Jordan bleeds more votes every time they take a vote for him to be speaker.
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alex said on October 20, 2023 at 12:55 pm
And now Chesebro took a plea deal. At this rate Trump’s probably going to croak from a massive coronary or stroke before he ever makes it to trial.
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Little Bird said on October 20, 2023 at 1:14 pm
Alex@ 32
Would save everyone the time and effort.
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Jakash said on October 20, 2023 at 1:17 pm
Thanks very much for your responses, Deborah, Jeff G. and Alex. I appreciate the kind words.
Yeah, Alex, a lot about Lakeview has changed, but I think that Presbyterian church is doing all right.
The odd thing is that before the ghost sign house was torn down, the plans for a 6-story, 52-unit development were in place. They tore down the building and a couple others, and put up a fence, but it doesn’t seem like much has happened since then.
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Dexter Friend said on October 20, 2023 at 1:40 pm
jakash and alex and deborah and other chicagoans might enjoy this…I did.
https://youtu.be/BFw0HNObAOA?si=Bi8Y5JFUI6obPgms
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Steve Elmer said on October 20, 2023 at 2:16 pm
Here’s a link to the history of Pepsi logos. It Looks like the version on the wall was introduced in 1906 and replaced in 1940.
https://www.zenbusiness.com/blog/pepsi-logo/
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Dave said on October 20, 2023 at 2:57 pm
Jordan might really be out this time. What other vile person do they have in place, I wonder.
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Julie Robinson said on October 20, 2023 at 4:18 pm
Mike Johnson’s name is coming up. I don’t know anything about him except he’s a Republican and a friend of Jim Jordan, therefore not qualified.
We’re slowly improving, but had a bathroom faucet leak. Fingers crossed it’s better now.
It’s a big weekend for the two sports followed in this house: Hoosier Hysteria (Indiana University basketball) is tonight, and the first skating competition is also happening. Good for us in our Covid couch potato states.
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Deborah said on October 20, 2023 at 7:19 pm
People can say what they want about Chicago, but what a great city it is, in my opinion. Today my husband and I walked down to the Art Institute and saw some amazing stuff, 3 exhibitions were particularly fantastic, one was a hispanic woman Remedios Varo the exhibit was called Science Fictions, and it was excellent, her techniques of painting were outstanding. Another was a Carravaggio exhibit that was out of this world and the other was Elsworth Kelly drawings, that one we weren’t expecting to see, the other two we specifically went to see. On our way to the Museum we went through the Lurie garden in Millenium park which is going through its fall transformation, the landscape designer Piet Oudolf designs gardens to look spectacular through the seasons and boy do they. Then on our way back home from the Art Institute on this late Friday afternoon we walked up Michigan Ave and experienced street musicians every few blocks that were so good, one after the other, we kept dropping money in their buckets because it was totally worth it. What a great Friday in Chicago, a little bracing weatherwise because I only had a light jacket but for late mid-ish October, quite comfortable.
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Deborah said on October 20, 2023 at 9:28 pm
I forgot to mention there was a Camille Claudel exhibit at the Art Institute that we happened upon, she was a mistress of Rodin but she was an extremely talented sculptress in her own right, who didn’t get the attention she deserved for many years. There was a movie about her in the late 80s after she started to get more attention after being forgotten for decades.
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brian stouder said on October 20, 2023 at 10:22 pm
Deborah, I love your city, indeed. It’s not terribly distant from Fort Wayne (maybe a 2 or 3 hour drive), and literally wonderful when you get there. These days, I’m getting my sea-legs at rural-living, here in Logansport……actually, I think we’re closer to The Second City now (more westward, but also a bit south). Our ‘local’ T V is Indianapolis, so now I pay attention to Indy and to Chi-town.
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Sherri said on October 21, 2023 at 12:25 am
Just finished reading Number Go Up, by Zeke Faux, a quick and entertaining read about crypto, including SBF. I now have a better understanding of how SBF was able to fool so many people: he was white, he was the son of Stanford law professors, and he was weird in ways people are already used to, that tech genius weirdness. Most of the other characters around crypto are foreign, come from sketchy backgrounds, or are weird in ways that mainstream doesn’t know how to characterize.
It remains to be seen whether that will work to get him off for the obvious crimes he has committed.
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David C said on October 21, 2023 at 8:40 am
I heard Zeke Faux on the podcast “Factually with Adam Conover”. He was very entertaining and I have his book on my reading list. I’ll have to move it up.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inside-the-crypto-crash-with-zeke-faux/id1463460577?i=1000630929590
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Dexter Friend said on October 21, 2023 at 9:22 am
C’mon, nallers! Donald needs us. He was tagged with a $5G fine for breaking his gag order. FIVE Gs! Where the fuck is this broke-dick motherfucker ever gonna come up with that kind of scratch?
Jim Jordan, “a good man” (said Lady G) is now off the list…at least for now.
GO BLUE! Beat Sparty. Oh, I love the Backyard Brawl. The Paul Bunyan trophy is up for grabs tonight at 7:30.
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FDChief said on October 21, 2023 at 9:50 am
It’s galling to have to watch the writhing antics of MAGAtWorld – from Gym to Tubby – knowing that in a sane polity all of these people would be in prison or standing at the top of a freeway off-ramp with a sign reading “disabled veteran anything helps”.
I get that there are people who need something “conservative” to stroke their political egos. But that damn near half of the US public wants these cretins just so they can get tax cuts and knuckle gay people?
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David C said on October 21, 2023 at 10:58 am
The half of the US public who wants these cretins have been aided by the far left all the way. “How can I morally vote for Al Gore, he’s boring and a warmonger. I’ll vote for Nader.”. So you get W., John “ethics, what ethics” Roberts, and Strip Search Sammy. “How can I morally vote for Hillary, she’s a bitch and a warmonger. I’ll vote for Jill Stein.”. They got Trump, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett and half the population lost their rights. Now I hear “I voted for Biden last time but how can I morally vote for him again. He hugged Bibi”. Enjoy your morals in your prison camps, leftists.
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Mark P said on October 21, 2023 at 12:17 pm
I agree that people need to be pragmatic when it comes to voting for third parties. There are a few elections where it is absolutely fair to blame people who couldn’t vote for the lesser of two evils and ended up with the greater of two evils. The 1966 Georgia gubernatorial election comes to mind. But in the 2000 presidential election, votes for Ralph Nader made a difference in only two states, New Hampshire and Florida. Granted, Florida was a big deal. It’s fair to argue that the Supreme Court stole the election from Gore, but the Nader votes would certainly have made the difference.
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Mark P said on October 21, 2023 at 1:38 pm
(I accidentally posted before I was done.)
I disagree with characterizing these third-party voters as “leftists.” That’s glib and facile. Some (many?) were probably potential Democratic voters, but not all. But calling them leftists is like calling all potential RFK Jr voters leftists. Based on some surveys it seems that many (most?) of them are actually Republican voters.
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David C said on October 21, 2023 at 2:40 pm
Perhaps with RFK Jr. He’s such a nut he couldn’t get any Democrats but probably a few oldsters who are in awe of anything Kennedy. All that was left to him are the anti-vax nuts. They’ve already left the Democratic Party. It wasn’t Republicans voting for Jill Stein though. Harlan Crow isn’t investing in Cornell West to get Republicans to vote for him. He’s seen this play out before and he’s looking for a rerun.
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Deborah said on October 21, 2023 at 3:29 pm
I think that some “leftists” have a libertarian streak which gets the Democrats in a bind. You can’t please all of the people all of the time.
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Sherri said on October 21, 2023 at 3:29 pm
I think of the voters for Nader and Stein as more akin to Joe Rogan types than either leftists or Republicans, more dirtbag left. They talk a game of leftier than thou, but they’ll throw women and black people under the bus at the first opportunity. From where I stand, the words may change, but their end result is the same as Republicans: white men in charge of the world.
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David C said on October 21, 2023 at 4:03 pm
Yeah, I think you put your finger on it better than I did, Sherri. I go to the county Democratic Party meetings just about every month. The regulars are mostly black women and school teachers. Once in a while we’ll have someone come in and tell us we’re doing it all wrong. They usually don’t show up for another meeting because we’re not interested in bomb throwers. We’re a bunch of pragmatic Democrats who know we have to win to get anywhere.
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FDChief said on October 21, 2023 at 4:42 pm
I won’t argue that the “dirtbag left” is a good thing. The Naderites and Jill Steiniacs who were too pure to hold their noses and vote blue when the alternatives were plutocrat-enabling scum should be thoroughly kicked.
Who are much less over-lookable are 1) the press, who constantly over-inflates the size and influence of the “far left” (as well as portraying corporaDems like Biden in the Commie Nut terms the wingnuts use…) and 2) the mushy middle, that either buys that nonsense or doesn’t care.
The polls consistently show that a vast majority (as in 60-70%) loathe what passes for policies coming out of the GQP. In a sane world even the extreme gerrymandering the wingnuts rely on shouldn’t help.
Yet…here we are.
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Mark P said on October 21, 2023 at 4:56 pm
It’s true that if all the Stein voters had voted for Clinton, she would have won the electoral college. But some research has indicated that not all the Stein voters would necessarily have voted for Clinton in a strictly two-person race. Some might have voted for Trump, and some might not have voted at all. The question does not have a clear answer, although it seems to lean towards the conclusion that Stein voters probably helped Trump win.
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David C said on October 21, 2023 at 5:19 pm
I’ve read the for some Bernie supporters their second choice was tRump so I guess it’s not too implausible that some Stein voters would vote for him too. I don’t know if that’s proving horseshoe theory or just shows that they both want to burn it all down for their own separate reasons but don’t care who lights the match.
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brian stouder said on October 21, 2023 at 5:37 pm
Back in the day – 40 years ago (or thereabouts) – I was a right-wing, Republican, conservative book club, Reagan-supporting, William F Buckley/National Review-subscribing person, and I considered myself actively ‘informed’, plugged-in, and up-to-date……and in the strictest sense of those words – I was. But, as an old guy, I’ve realized that being ‘informed’ (etc) is an aspiration, and never a destination. It is a lifelong effort, like ‘physical fitness’. By way of saying (in a round-about way), wasn’t it wonderful to have an American President as plugged-in and ground-breaking as Obama? And he was not just elected, but re-elected! Granted, we THEN got stuck with the Rump, but only for 1 term, and then we fired him and got ol’ Joe…… and I’m looking forward to President Harris, b’gosh!
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Dexter Friend said on October 22, 2023 at 3:27 am
It’s your business, but if you applauded Joe hugging that thug Netanyahu, I disagree that it was a positive event. Netanyahu even dressed down, like a needy recipient of Uncle Sugar’s treasury, wearing no tie.
Where were IDF as 40 breaches of ‘The Wall’ happened with no security at ANY of them? His forces are on the brink of mutiny as his right-wing government dismantles the Israeli Supreme Court in an effort to make Netanyahu the king-of-sorts. A radical could even make the claim Netanyahu orchestrated the attack as a means to eradicate Gaza of Hamas and damn to hell all Palestinian life. OK, nobody thinks that, but Israeli tanks are at border points and are ready to hit the strip and blow the hell out of Hamas strongholds. Which are buries deep underground in well-maintained tunnels. God help us all.
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/protesters-call-out-pelosi-urge-cease-fire-sf-18436730.php
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alex said on October 22, 2023 at 9:46 am
I’ll admit I’ve known a few burn-it-all-down leftists who even in their dotage haven’t shaken the misguided earnestness of college frosh in Sociology 101 who think they know everything. These folks are really not much different than the Ayn Rand acolytes whose emotional development got arrested at around the same age. I’d characterize both types as small-L libertarians in their fundamental disposition, and you can never count on them to vote sanely, especially when it matters.
I’m getting ready to enter retirement in less than ten days. I’m hoping to spend less time doom scrolling and more time taking back my life. Today I’m gonna try out a nifty NYT recipe that I’m gifting you here and I hope it’s as good as it sounds:
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1022068-skillet-chicken-with-mushrooms-and-caramelized-onions?unlocked_article_code=1.4kw.qebW.cXXeIO_9cboL&smid=share-url
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David C said on October 22, 2023 at 9:53 am
I’m all in on any recipe with caramelized onions and chicken thighs.
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alex said on October 22, 2023 at 11:54 am
A very unbreakfastlike breakfast, but I’m happy to report it’s the best meal I’ve had in recent memory. I wouldn’t hesitate to serve this for company.
The caramelized onions and shrooms were heavenly and the sherry vinegar gave it a pleasant tangy note that didn’t make me think “sherry vinegar.” And it was simple and easy and gave me an excuse to use my fave cast iron skillet.
Now that I’ve got a full tummy I’m off to mow/mulch three acres of weeds and fallen leaves at my dad’s.
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Jenine said on October 24, 2023 at 10:17 am
@Alex: That sounds delicious. I’m so happy for your upcoming retirement. The working world is a shark tank for many – glad you are climbing out.
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Daniel Pieniak said on November 19, 2023 at 2:15 pm
As of the week of November 6, 2023, the ghost sign was painted over and gone sad to say
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