A break away.

My visit to Columbus was everything I wanted it to be. Warm, fun, a million laughs.

That’s me with Jeff Borden and Dave Jones, two very funny people. We met early before the whole group arrived:

Extras included Jim, Karen, Kirk and Gary, all former Dispatch people. The bar in German Village was one of our old haunts, and looks like it hasn’t changed a thing in 40 years. So it was perfect, really. I didn’t want the night to end (especially since I went home in a driving rain). But I got back to Westerville in one piece, and the following day went out with Julia Keller, another ex-Dispatcher who now writes and teaches. It struck me, going home, that going to see old friends is the best kind of travel. After Western Europe, of course. But way less walking.

So it was a restorative kind of weekend, except I had one glass of wine too many Saturday night with the fam, slept badly and now feel like crap. I’ll be better tomorrow.

Meanwhile, we had a minor media story break over the weekend in Detroit, in which Charlie LeDuff, a downward-spiraling journalist who fancies himself a Jon Stewart/Hunter Thompson mashup and desperate to “go national” tweeted something about the Michigan attorney general:

You see the problem? “See you next Tuesday.” As long as I’ve been a grown-up, I’ve understood that phrase to be another way to say “cunt.” Like “you go to h-e-hockey sticks, you scoundrel!” Even Charlotte York understands what it means.

He was called out by a number of female journalists, then some male ones, and by Saturday night he’d lost his contributing-columnist gig at The Detroit News. His fans, who are disproportionately right wingers because that’s the niche he’s going for in his quest to get his career back on track (Fox News, maybe CNN), keep insisting he never called Dana Nessel a cunt, and Charlie himself actually tried to claim he was only referring to when his next column would post. I call bullshit. Funny how it’s women who understand when they’re being insulted, isn’t it? And how often men try to gaslight us?

Finally, I could build up a big head of steam over this rather startling survey from the University of Michigan’s C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital National Poll on Children’s Health, but I’d rather let you guys take a look at it and tell me what you think. Briefly, it reflects a jarring disconnect between what parents say they want for their children’s independence and what they’re willing to do to further it:

Among parents of a child 9-11 years, 84% agree that children benefit from having free time without adult supervision. Fewer parents report their child does things without an adult present, including staying home for 30-60 minutes (58%), finding an item at the store while the parent is in another aisle (50%), staying in the car while the parent runs a quick errand (44%), walking/biking to a friend’s house (33%) or playing at the park with a friend (29%), or trick-or-treating with friends (15%). The top reason parents cite as preventing them from letting their child 9-11 years have time without adult supervision is worry that someone might scare or follow their child (54%); however, only 17% say their neighborhood is not safe for children to be alone. Some parents think their child isn’t ready (32%) or doesn’t want (28%) to do these things. Some parents believe state or local laws don’t allow children that age to be alone (17%), that someone might call the police (14%), or that others will think they are a bad parent (11%) if their child is not in direct adult supervision.

Note well: Only 15 percent would let their child trick-or-treat with friends, but almost the same percentage thinks their neighborhood isn’t safe to trick-or-treat in. We’re paralyzed by fear.

OK, let’s start the week.

Posted at 7:48 pm in Media, Same ol' same ol' |

54 responses to “A break away.”

  1. David C said on October 22, 2023 at 8:19 pm

    My wife came from a family were even fake swearing could get them in trouble. Mary got in trouble for saying “shucks”. Mary knows what “See you next Tuesday” means. If she does, everybody does. Wingnuts speak in code so often they forget where the code leaves off. I’m sure his fans will stamp their little feet and say woke a hundred-thousand times but it’ll wear off.

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  2. Sherri said on October 22, 2023 at 10:10 pm

    Only 50% let their 9-11 year olds get something from a different aisle when they’re in the store with them? Good Lord.

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  3. Jason T. said on October 22, 2023 at 10:44 pm

    It couldn’t have happened to a nicer berk than Charlie LeDuff. He and Salena Zito will make a nice pair on the op-ed page of your local Alden rag. (Pair of what, I don’t know.)

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  4. alex said on October 22, 2023 at 11:56 pm

    LeDuff? Who was parading his whigger bona fides just a few years ago when Obama was president? Whore.

    Not surprised at the rubes paralyzed with fear. I was shocked to move back into my old neighborhood in 2005 — 2005! — and seeing parents sitting in their cars with their children waiting for the school bus because of all the supposed child abductors skulking around in one of the most affluent Zip codes in the county. Because they were watching too much FOX News which was already over the top with paranoia even back then.

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  5. Jeff Gill said on October 23, 2023 at 9:09 am

    This is one of the things that keeps me from joining the whole “smartphones have ruined everything” trend in general discourse (they are a problem, and an accelerant, not saying they aren’t at least that & likely more). The culture of anxiety around kids in particular has clear roots before the internet and then smartphones turned everything up to eleven. I’m 62 and had one of those “get out of the house after breakfast, be back when the streetlights come on” childhoods, with the summer being mostly dropped off at the city park program which was two college students and a hundred or so kids roaming around from noon to 4, ditto Saturdays dropped at the downtown movie theater.

    Then somehow BOOM it became bizarre for a child to be seen riding alone on their bike from point A to point B, let alone walking anywhere out and around. And parental expectations for both supervision and training shot up. If I thought by doing all this we’d reduced crime against children or eliminated recurring harm I guess it’s the price you pay, but I’m just not sure. Scouting and other outdoor programs like church camp have really seen this shift, and I’ve been staffing summer and day camp programs every year from 1975 to 2020, so I feel like I have some basis of comparison. And it seemed to rocket up in the 1990s, not just after 2004 or 2012 (majority of adults online, majority of adults with smartphones). In the ’90s as a camp director, I was seeing Ritalin & Prozac on the health forms of 10+% of the kids, after it being a kid or two a week out of 100-250 through the 70s & 80s. That’s a chicken-egg question, I guess, but it just felt like parental hyperanxiety got rolling in the 90s, whether it was summer Scout camp or church camp or youth programs during the school year.

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  6. LAMary said on October 23, 2023 at 9:17 am

    When my kids were growing up there was a little pack of seven or eight kids in the neighborhood. I didn’t walk my boys to the other kids’ houses. The other parents didn’t either. From after school to supper time they kid pack was in one backyard or another or in the basketball court in the park (not playing basketball. Doing skateboard tricks). Nothing nasty or weird ever happened to any of them. Skinned knees, poison oak maybe. There was a mother in the neighborhood whose kids were not allowed to hang out with them. She did a presentation about Stranger Danger at a PTA meeting.

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  7. Mark P said on October 23, 2023 at 10:24 am

    It’s no surprise that people think their kids are at high risk of being kidnapped or murdered if they are on the streets without adult supervision. We hear about every child abduction in the country on our local tv news. But we don’t hear about every teen killed in a traffic accident, and there are far, far more of those cases than there are of child abductions. Of course, humans in general are not very good at understanding risks.

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  8. Julie Robinson said on October 23, 2023 at 11:14 am

    There’s free range parenting and there’s locking your kids out of the house in the dead of winter, as our former neighbor did. Wouldn’t answer the door or the phone. We deliberated calling Child Protective Services but they moved away first. I can only think she was deeply depressed and/or had a substance abuse issue.

    And there’s also going on a business trip, not coming home, and not answering your cell when your 15 yo calls you. He spent more than one overnight at our house.

    Our kids brought us a lot of waifs over the years, including homesick college kids who just needed some home cooking and family life.

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  9. Peter said on October 23, 2023 at 12:20 pm

    1. “See You Next Tuesday”….I had never heard that one before, and I didn’t understand what was the big deal, but now that I’ve read this it’s just more evidence that I Am Slow On The Uptake…

    2. On the other hand, I figured out what our former Fearless Leader was really trying to say when he talked about RIGGERS, so, based on item 1, that’s really obvious…

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  10. Alan Stamm said on October 23, 2023 at 12:42 pm

    Among the shivs thrust at blowhard LeDuff, “a downward-spiraling journalist” is well-honed and accurate.

    Now The News’ editor-publisher learns what Fox 2 Detroit’s news director and Deadline Detroit’s co-founder did about the risk of letting in that snake.

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  11. John Carpenter said on October 23, 2023 at 1:00 pm

    Social media has created a wildly distorted view of crime, especially urban crime. I’ve lived in Nashville for three years listening to people tell me how Chicago, where we used to live, is a war zone, with rampant crime and murder. “That’s weird,” I say when I’m feeling frisky, “because I covered crime for the Chicago Sun-Times in the late 90s when it was MUCH WORSE.” “What do you mean much worse?” they ask. “I mean statistically, numerically, factually, actually much worse. As in close to 1,000 murders every year.” I also like to point out that the violent crime rate in Tennessee is more than double that of Illinois. This is the problem when the defining message of one whole political party is: “Be afraid!”

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  12. 4dbirds said on October 23, 2023 at 1:35 pm

    Most of my kids grew up on army bases or in German neighborhoods while they were growing up. I first ran into the ‘don’t let your children go out alone’ when my 10-year-old daughter was walking home alone from the store. Once home, she told me a man, driving, slowed down and told her she should not be out walking alone. He told her she was way too young. I knew the reason why, she looked five, as radiation and chemotherapy stunted her growth. Another time, the police brought her and her bike home because she was too young. Even after knowing her age, I was visited by child protective services. The CPS guy didn’t appreciate when I noted that I found it bitter that Virginia was so interested in a 10-year-old bicycling but didn’t pay for bone marrow transplants (this was just before the ACA). The look he gave me was meant to let me know he had power over me.

    There are a bunch of kids who play outside in our neighborhood. I love it. We live in a meandering cul-de-sac so maybe parents feel more secure here.

    From early in my army career, if someone called me a cunt, I felt pride. I knew I was making someone uncomfortable. I hate the word pussy much more. It is nasty and is meant to demean.

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  13. Courtney said on October 23, 2023 at 1:51 pm

    We live in Pittsburgh and because of where my daughter goes to school she rides the city bus to and from each day and has since mastered the public transportation system and knows how to get to friends’ homes, activities, etc all on her own (she’s 12). My son is 9 and routinely walks to the nearby park and stays for hours with friends – I am probably way more comfortable with all of this because they have phones and can reach me as needed! We made an ill-fated move to Toledo for a couple of years and I used to routinely walk with the kids to the nearby Kroger since I was so used to doing that in Pittsburgh (I’m from Michigan originally) and would always get asked 2-3 times a trip if we needed a ride – people got really upset seeing kids walking like that! There is so much related to what is and what isn’t overparenting, and what is and isn’t “safe” – my mom nearly loses her mind every time she visits (she’s from northern MI) seeing the kids manage the city the way they do.

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  14. Icarus said on October 23, 2023 at 2:18 pm

    I second what Peter said at @9.

    Social Media and the 24-hour news cycle has indeed created a distorted view of crime. I’m still on some neighborhood FB pages from Chicago. This morning someone was robbed at gunpoint at 5 am while going to their car on the way to work.

    That certainly is scary and I wouldn’t want to be them. but how many times have they got to their car at 5 am without incident?

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  15. brian stouder said on October 23, 2023 at 3:33 pm

    Well, the ‘See you next Tuesday’ thing went right past me when I first read this yesterday (and we’ll dispense with the easy ‘didn’t get it’ puns!), but then looking at the updates today I suddenly ‘got it’, and chuckled! I guess I don’t get out, much!

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  16. Dorothy said on October 23, 2023 at 3:34 pm

    This is the first time I’ve heard of See you on Tuesday. But years ago I heard someone say ‘If you see Kay, tell her I said hi!’ Nearly the same level of tricky kids trying to get away with saying a dirty word without actually saying it.

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  17. MarkH said on October 23, 2023 at 3:48 pm

    Nance – Which bar is that?. It’s been 40+ years for me, so don’t recognize it. I thought all y’all just hung at the Galleria. At least that’s where I was used to seeing you.

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  18. nancy said on October 23, 2023 at 4:20 pm

    The Galleria was one, but this was the Old Mohawk.

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  19. MarkH said on October 23, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    Of course. I lived four blocks from there for two years just before I left. Also the Beck Tavern and one other on High Street near Kossuth I can’t remember, but long gone now.

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  20. MarkH said on October 23, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    Great pics, by the way. You all look great.

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  21. Mark P said on October 23, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    I only recently heard of “see you next Tuesday.” I never heard that or the word it masks, even in middle or high school. I can’t imagine how an adult could consider using it in public.

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  22. Dexter Friend said on October 24, 2023 at 2:39 am

    The bar’s décor was reminiscent of a coffee house I used to visit, somewhere on 5th between Perry and Forsythe when Vanessa was a student living in an apartment on 5th. I can’t recall the name…something like Moonlight Cafe, about 25 years ago. Bill Burr has a movie on Netflix, with Bobby Cannavale and Bokeem Woodbine…older men having kids and dealing with …
    “Comedian Bill Burr steps into the world of directing with “Old Dads.” Released on October 20, 2023, the Gen-X comedy movie promises a humorous take on the clash between generations in the corporate world.” (review from Google search)

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  23. LAMary said on October 24, 2023 at 8:51 am

    The first time heard the “see you next Tuesday” thing was when one of the Real Housewives of NYC used it. It was directed at Luann, the Countess.

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  24. ROGirl said on October 24, 2023 at 10:18 am

    Another trump lawyer, Jenna Ellis has pleaded guilty in the Georgia case.

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  25. Little Bird said on October 24, 2023 at 10:29 am

    I think I learned see you next Tuesday in high school. The first high school. The insanely religious high school.
    “Swear” words are just part of my vocabulary. I don’t really think about using them, I just use them.

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  26. Mark P said on October 24, 2023 at 10:44 am

    I haven’t watched much of Bill Burr’s routines, but he strikes me as an irascible, middle-aged white man who is angry about and resentful of everybody and everything, and who thinks liberals are all just virtue signaling and being politically correct. In other words, a MAGAt.

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  27. FDChief said on October 24, 2023 at 11:01 am

    Yeah, I think the End of Free-Range Kids owes more to the death of local papers, consolidation of broadcast stations, and the rise of cable news starting in the 80s.

    Bottom line; local news became – to the extent it wasn’t before – “fire and murder”. All crime, all the time. It cost money to have city hall reporters following muni pols grifting and misbehaving, whereas you could pull murder stories off the wire to get viewers plus whatever garish crime story came up locally. Who wanted to bore viewers with city council jacking up parking meter fees when there was a juicy murder three states away?

    Do that for forty years and it’s no wonder a huge chunk of the (gullible, credulous) public thinks the US is a brutal hellscape that threatens their kiddos every moment they’re outside their rooms…

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  28. FDChief said on October 24, 2023 at 11:09 am

    Oh, and let me shoutout to the Nextdoor bulletin board app thing.

    I don’t recall why but a friend convinced me to sign up back in the Oughts and Oh. My. Gawd. I don’t know where I’ve ever encountered more paranoia (and thinly-veiled racism). Every darker-than-printer-paper passerby was breathlessly reported as a potential gangster. Scary homeless people were tracked like NORAD. Reports of car clouts and porch thefts were announced in tones of ominous dread; they got my leaf rake, they’re coming for your life next!

    I think I lasted about two weeks before 86ing the idiot thing.

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  29. basset said on October 24, 2023 at 11:32 am

    It’s election day in one of Nashville’s largest and most affluent suburbs… with even more crazy MAGA stuff going on than you’d expect:


    follow some of those links at the end… tattoo face guy has a market and gas station on the other end of town, lost his corporate affiliation (think it was Shell) for posting hateful stuff on the outside signs.

    John Oliver did a piece on this a few days ago with many clips:


    early vote turnout was 5x the usual for this race, don’t know if that’s a good or a bad sign.

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  30. Bruce Fields said on October 24, 2023 at 12:06 pm

    I’m glad to hear there’s still the occasional cul-de-sac where kids play in the street.

    That’s my personal axe to grind: playing in the street was normal and common when I was a kid. Now if a kid gets hit in the street, there will be a bunch of people on Nextdoor speculating about what the kid must have done wrong, and where were the parents?

    I’d rank fear of traffic a bigger factor than fear of crime. http://guide.saferoutesinfo.org/introduction/the_decline_of_walking_and_bicycling.cfm

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  31. Jeff Borden said on October 24, 2023 at 2:22 pm

    I can only echo the words of the proprietor of this fine site. Our gathering last week was a tonic. Old friends are often the best friends and I am lucky to count Nancy, Dave and the others in the photos among them.

    This morning I heard a report out of Iowa –home of the world famous Iowa Writers Workshop– is experiencing an absolute tsunami of book bans after the legislature passed a purposely vague law disallowing any book containing a “sex act.” The literary pecksniffs are removing Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Steinbeck. . .I mean, pretty much everyone since most great literature contains elements of romance, love and loss, etc. I guess the Bible won’t pass muster, of course, especially the Old Testament, which has more sex and gore than an Eli Roth film.

    We’re reaching peak stupid. The leading preznit candidate for a major political party is so clearly fucking senile it’s a slap in the face each time we hear him. The grotesque, rotten corpse of the party he allegedly leads is filled with fascists, traitors, racists, idiots and toddlers who cannot do even the simplest elements of their jobs. Truth is fungible. Lies are everywhere. Morons are reproducing like rabbits and rats. Half the fucking country can’t be bothered to vote.

    I need a lot more nights like the one in Columbus to keep my sanity.

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  32. Scout said on October 24, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    Stupidity is rampant in this country and dangerously so. If KKKaren the kook doesn’t want her kids reading certain books that’s her and her family’s business. It is absolutely none of her business or anyone else’s what other parents deem appropriate for their children. I only hope that banning books only makes them more desirable to kids and we end up with more readers with better critical thinking skills.

    The lying and alternate truthing is out of bounds. Just the other day someone said to me they couldn’t believe I support Joe Biden when ‘everyone knows’ he kicks his dogs. I was like, every knows? Huh. So I looked into it and apparently there is some old resurrected YouTube video of Biden tripping over his dog’s leash and accidentally knocking his leg into one of his German Shepherds. It’s all so stupid.

    And yeah, NextDoor is nothing but a witch’s stew of racists and Gladys Kravitzes. Avoid avoid avoid.

    My favorite Jenna Ellis take. https://x.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1716819393953530318?s=20

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  33. Little Bird said on October 24, 2023 at 3:58 pm

    When I was a kid there were celebrities that appeared in ads every night at 10 saying “it’s ten o’clock, do you know where your children are?”
    The height of stranger danger. When sadly, kids were more likely to be abused by someone they knew.

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  34. tajalli said on October 24, 2023 at 4:45 pm

    Looks like dyed in the wool librarians in Iowa will be spending a lot of time helping their young patrons get Brooklyn NYC library cards and teaching them advanced downloading skills. Will this be a felony for the librarians? The poorer patrons will be limited to reading on the library computers. Wonder if “parental controls” will be installed on the computers to limit what is streamed. What a nightmare.

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  35. Deborah said on October 24, 2023 at 5:51 pm

    I’m gobsmacked after reading Jeff B’s comment about Iowa’s book bans. Scout you are so right about stupidity being rampant here, it is mind boggling just how stupid.

    I’m feeling pretty stupid myself right now, talk about a sucker born every minute. I ordered a Pendleton blanket from an ad I saw on Instagram, and silly me I thought that since it was on Instagram it had to be legit, because they wouldn’t let a scam operate on their platform would they. I should have known better for sure, the blanket that I’ve been coveting for years was advertised at a ridiculously low price and I fell for it hook line and sinker. I was dazzled because it was one of those National Park blankets, the one called Glacier National Park, it’s well designed simplicity that I have admired for years. The woman I spoke to from the credit card company that I used to make the purchase told me this is a tried and true scam they get calls about many times every day for lots of things people order from ads they see on social media. The scammers haven’t yet used my card number to get more money out of me but I’m having the card company issue a new card in case. I will never order anything ever, ever again through Instagram, that’s the only social media company I have an account on that does ads. How could I have been so stupid?

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  36. David C said on October 24, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    Don’t feel stupid, Deborah. Scammers are the most evil applied psychologists in the world. My dad lost $40,000 to scammers using the grandchild scam. He told him he was my lawyer and that I caused an accident that killed a pregnant woman. He said they needed the money for bail. All he needed to do was call my phone but they know exactly which buttons to push. They knew what buttons to push in your case too. The real reason it flourishes is nobody does a damned thing about it.

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  37. tajalli said on October 24, 2023 at 7:40 pm

    My sympathy to you, Deborah. I recently received an eVite from someone for a lunch bunch whose name I didn’t recognize – the response required a login with your choice of social media accounts but didn’t result in being able to view the actual invitation. I immediately changed my password and shook my finger at myself.

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  38. alex said on October 25, 2023 at 7:44 am

    Deborah, if it’s any consolation, I got taken in by a web site that was offering Keen footwear. I wanted to replace a particular pair of shoes that I loved but were no longer in production. I grew a bit suspicious when I was directed into PayPal and my payment was being sent to a rather strange-looking e-mail address. I tried to cancel the sale afterward and got no response. So I did some googling and found that these same people were operating a bunch of fake Keen web sites at different URLs and that there were forums where people were talking about it. So I filed a complaint through PayPal. They gave me my money back and they told me that these fraudsters were now officially banned from using PayPal.

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  39. Julie Robinson said on October 25, 2023 at 8:59 am

    It’s Whack a Mole trying to tamp them down, though. I almost fell for one selling Birkenstocks before I realized that Birks that cheap had to be a scam.

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  40. Icarus said on October 25, 2023 at 10:30 am

    @Alex, I tried that NYT recipe you shared. I botched it. For one thing, there might be something missing from Step 2 where you cook the onions. It doesn’t mention using any oil.

    But what probably killed it was I used Dried Gourmet Mixed Mushrooms (dehydrated) instead of regular or even canned and I bet that sucked the life out of the dish.

    My wife said it smelled yummy but it didn’t taste as good as you described so we are looking at sauce options to save that meal.

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  41. Dexter Friend said on October 25, 2023 at 10:45 am

    The way I heard it, from childhood: (we were northern Indiana from birth, and were taught to look at Kentucky and eastern Tennessee migrants as hillbillies)
    So the hillbilly has lost his sister; he sees a friend and says : “Eff You See Kay…”
    “See You Next Tuesday” is new to me.

    World Series, Friday, 8:00 PM. Any nallers watching with me on TV anywhere?

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  42. Deborah said on October 25, 2023 at 10:53 am

    I had to look up who is playing in the World series, I’ve never even heard of the Diamond Backs or the Rangers, that’s how out of it I am on sports. So no, I won’t be watching.

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  43. Jeff Borden said on October 25, 2023 at 11:56 am

    I’d have preferred the Phillies, but I’ll watch. It’ll be a long time between games after the WS.

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  44. LAMARY said on October 25, 2023 at 12:04 pm

    I had a scammer call last week
    He said he was with the county sheriff’s department and that I had not reported for federal jury duty. He said I received a summons, signed it and sent it back. I know this is untrue. He said I had to come to his office, pay almost 1000 dollars bond and set a court date to prove the signature on the summons was not mine. If I did not pay I could get jailed until the court date. He gave me his name and badge number which I googled and it was an actual deputy name
    I called the sheriff’s department. They told me they were getting a lot of calls like mine and that it was a scam.

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  45. Julie Robinson said on October 25, 2023 at 12:53 pm

    It’s time for the World Series? Huh.

    Only in Florida do window installers work in flip flops.

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  46. alex said on October 25, 2023 at 1:26 pm

    Icarus, sorry to hear it didn’t come out well. The dish definitely needs fresh mushrooms since you’re caramelizing in a dry pan and the onions and mushrooms are supplying the moisture.

    I can see adapting this technique to other dishes where I want caramelized onions and mushrooms because they came out so silky smooth and flavorful.

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  47. tajalli said on October 25, 2023 at 2:19 pm

    Alex, when you caramelized the onions and mushrooms, did you cover the pan to keep the moisture in?

    In the scam dept, “this is your utility company” (but not using its actual name) informs you that you’re entitled to a refund for the climate adjustment but that you have to apply for it. PG&E does this automatically twice a year, so at the very surface it might sound legit, then they grab your data.

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  48. Dorothy said on October 25, 2023 at 2:44 pm

    I think many of us let our guard down sometimes when ordering online. About 10 years ago I ordered some really neat looking shoes I saw on Instagram. I think I got two pair for a pretty good price. I wear size 10. I ordered 11 since some comments (probably pre-planted by the company) said they run small. Well they were ENTIRELY too small. I gave them away to two different friends who wore size 7, I think. They probably don’t even make those shoes in a size big enough to fit me. I vowed never again. But I did order a nice heavy canvas travel bag from an Instagram company (there are good ones, too, but it’s hard to tell the difference sometimes) and used it on our two week anniversary trip in September 2019.

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  49. Icarus said on October 25, 2023 at 2:51 pm

    re scams, online, and others: we tend to beat ourselves up when we should have known better. We are also a culture of victim blaming.

    but what is lost is that scammers have all day to practice their craft. In the early days, the dead giveaway was broken English and obvious bad links. but now they have become more sophisticated with URLs that match the legitimate ones almost perfectly.

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  50. alex said on October 25, 2023 at 3:29 pm

    tajalli, nope. Didn’t cover the pan. Eventually you do add some oil after the onions and mushrooms have cooked down and browned a bit but they still released moisture even then. When the dish was finished, the sauce was thick like a corn starch sauce but had no added thickeners at all.

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  51. Dave said on October 25, 2023 at 4:33 pm

    My wife received a call three days ago, a recording, that said they were from the sheriff’s department in the country in Virginia where our son and daughter-in-law live and they needed to speak with our daughter-in-law, who they named, about a urgent civil matter. Quite honestly, we didn’t have any idea if it was legit and we found there was a member of that sheriff’s department with the same name as given on the call.

    We contacted our family, who are currently out of state, they let us know after a few minutes that it was a scam and nothing of concern. Still, how low life does one have to be to do things like this?

    Meanwhile, we have an ultra-conservative election denier elected to the Speak of the House position. I truly hate those people.

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  52. tajalli said on October 25, 2023 at 5:33 pm

    Thanks, Alex, a much clearer picture now. I’m definitely going to try this.

    Regarding scam calls. Basically, I hang up and contact the alleged agency directly, if at all, especially banks. I actually cancelled my email with my bank because their fraud algorithm started giving false positives for basic check payment transactions like a nation-wide car insurance that I’ve had for more than 10 years and they pretend has never show up in my transactions over that period. They can go to the inconvenience of making a phone call (email is much too easy).

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  53. basset said on October 25, 2023 at 6:01 pm

    Posted yesterday @29 about a particularly crazy MAGA mayoral candidate in suburban Nashville… put too many links in so it got delayed, sorry… but let me throw it out there again, the campaign was truly a circus.

    Election Day was yesterday and she got trampled by roughly four to one, along with the alderman candidates she had trailing along with her:


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  54. Dexter Friend said on October 26, 2023 at 3:24 am

    The Arizona Serpentinos(they wear this name on uniform tops frequently) have a 26 year old rookie relief pitcher name Andrew Saalfrank. He is from Fort Wayne , Indiana. He only had 10 career innings behind him going into the playoffs, now he has like 12 postseason innings. In recent years, more and more Hoosier men have made the Bigs. This virtually never used to happen. Bryan, Ohio, has had 2 make it, and Defiance has had several make it recently.
    Few east of Dallas nor west of Phoenix will be watching except the gamblers. I am old school, the World Series means a lot to me. What I do not watch are car racing, golf, tennis, and field events. And bowling or cornhole. When I was a kid, cornhole meant something entirely different.

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