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Open primaries.

I’ve lived in open-primary states all my life — first Ohio, then Indi­ana, now Michi­gan — and have been immersed in GOP Nation for so long that I can’t remem­ber when vot­ing wasn’t com­pli­cated. To vote offen­sively, or defen­sively? How strate­gic does my bal­lot need to me? Vote for some­one, or against some­one else?

We have a pri­mary com­ing up in just under a cou­ple weeks. There are a few inter­est­ing races on the table, and appar­ently I’m not the only one who’s strategizing.

Our state house dis­trict is reli­ably Repub­li­can, but no longer a lead-pipe cinch. Six Repub­li­cans and four Democ­rats are run­ning for the seat opened by a term-limited exit. Nor­mally I’d vote in the Repub­li­can pri­mary, just for that feel­ing of not being dis­en­fran­chised, but the U.S. con­gres­sional seat is in play, and that one’s more interesting.

The cur­rent occu­pant is the Detroit mayor’s mother, Car­olyn Cheeks Kil­patrick, an impe­ri­ous, high-handed dame who behaves as though the seat was bequeathed to her by God. Unfor­tu­nately, her son’s prob­lems have many sub­ur­ban­ites slaver­ing to pun­ish him by boot­ing his mom from office — at least, if I’m read­ing the sud­den appear­ance of yard signs for her oppo­nent, Mary Waters, along such unlikely thor­ough­fares as Lake Shore Road in Grosse Pointe.

Here’s Waters’ TV ad, with Mrs. K’s famous melt­down of a cou­ple sum­mers back.

And here’s how the mayor is greeted in his home­town by a crowd of hockey fans, cer­tainly a heav­ily sub­ur­ban crowd. This is a fairly restrained response, based on what I’ve heard in pri­vate conversations.

Today brings fresh out­rage for the ‘burbs: The mayor’s being inves­ti­gated for allegedly shov­ing a sheriff’s deputy, who was try­ing to serve a sub­poena on his good friend Bobby Fer­gu­son. This hap­pened at the home of the mayor’s sis­ter, who is mar­ried to Bobby’s cousin, and yes, oth­ers have noted that nepo­tism seems to be a theme with these folks.

Any­way, I’m not sure which bal­lot I’ll request. It depends on whether the Repub­li­can spot for the state House seat looks to be in seri­ous play. I don’t think it is — I think it’s going to a nice blonde lady whose qual­i­fi­ca­tions include “in line to be the first female com­modore of the Grosse Pointe Yacht Club.” Oh, how nice. Mean­while, Kil­patrick and Waters “sparred,” as they say, on a local public-affairs show last week­end, and the for­mer sneered to the lat­ter, “You couldn’t carry my bra.” And peo­ple won­der why I like liv­ing here.

Of course, it would help if one of the week­lies would cover the race, but they’re too busy cov­er­ing a new swim­ming pool open­ing. (Head­line: Splish, splash! Zero-entry pool opens)

Dunno if you non-subscribers can read this, but there’s an inter­est­ing piece in the WSJ today announc­ing the “end of the Rea­gan Rev­o­lu­tion,” i.e., a return of gov­ern­ment reg­u­la­tion. After a bel­ly­ful of Chi­nese lead, the mortgage-and-banking fias­cos, col­laps­ing free­way bridges and var­i­ous other train wrecks, vot­ers are say­ing, “You know, maybe the end­lessly cre­ative mar­ket­place isn’t the best over­seer for this stuff.” And I know you can read this AP piece about the same issue, in tighter focus:

WASHINGTON — One of the worst out­breaks of food­borne ill­ness in the U.S. is teach­ing the food indus­try the truth of the adage, “Be care­ful what you wish for because you might get it.”

The indus­try pres­sured the Bush admin­is­tra­tion years ago to limit the paper­work com­pa­nies would have to keep to help U.S. health inves­ti­ga­tors quickly trace pro­duce that sick­ens con­sumers, accord­ing to inter­views and gov­ern­ment reports reviewed by The Asso­ci­ated Press.

The White House also killed a plan to require the indus­try to main­tain elec­tronic track­ing records that could be reviewed eas­ily dur­ing a cri­sis to search for an outbreak’s source. Com­pa­nies com­plained the pro­pos­als were too bur­den­some and costly, and warned they could dis­rupt the avail­abil­ity of con­sumers’ favorite foods.

The appar­ent but unin­tended con­se­quences of the lob­by­ing suc­cess: a paper record-keeping sys­tem that has slowed inves­ti­ga­tors, with esti­mated busi­ness losses of $250 mil­lion. So far, nearly 1,300 peo­ple in 43 states, the Dis­trict of Colum­bia and Canada have been sick­ened by sal­mo­nella since April.

When we were in Cali, gar­den to the U.S., this was a very big story. Tomato grow­ers were wor­ried about los­ing their shirts while inves­ti­ga­tors tried to find the nee­dle in the haystack. Mean­while, con­sumers refused to buy toma­toes, restau­rants pulled them from their menus and the nation twid­dled its thumbs. Good thing the avail­abil­ity of our favorite foods wasn’t disrupted.

OK. Friends, I am look­ing out the win­dow at what appears to be a lovely day. Time to exer­cise the Freelancer’s Option, and go enjoy it. Good week­ends to all.

38 responses to
“Open primaries.”

  1. Dorothy said on July 25th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    I can’t believe Mary Water’s ad has “Yaw’s boy” spelled that way. Should it not be spelled “Y’all’s boy”? I know that’s not the salient por­tion of the mes­sage… but I’m like that about things I see in print. I want them to be CORRECT. That being said, it’s a good ad anyway.

  2. Sue said on July 25th, 2008 at 11:45 am

    “Tomato grow­ers were wor­ried about los­ing their shirts while inves­ti­ga­tors tried to find the nee­dle in the haystack. Mean­while, con­sumers refused to buy toma­toes, restau­rants pulled them from their menus and the nation twid­dled its thumbs. Good thing the avail­abil­ity of our favorite foods wasn’t dis­rupted.“
    Cer­tain of my rel­a­tives are con­vinced it’s the dirty mex­i­cans pick­ing the pro­duce who are at fault. With this kind of atti­tude, we might as well hang it up right now. If that com­mu­nist (com­mu­nist, social­ist, what’s the diff?) Upton Sin­clair wrote some ver­sion of “The Jun­gle” today, it wouldn’t raise a peep. It cer­tainly wouldn’t cause the sit­ting Repub­li­can pres­i­dent to respond in ways intended to pro­tect Amer­i­cans. I want Theodore back.

  3. brian stouder said on July 25th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Sue — our local radio lip-flapper has repeated the “it’s the Mex­i­cans” mantra again and again; the bet­ter to make it into ‘com­mon knowl­edge’ that actu­ally ain’t. In his tale, the toma­toes came from Mex­ico; and now the scare is over because they’re out of sea­son in Mex­ico, and it’s shifted to the pep­pers and so on.

    …and the beat goes on

  4. Catherine said on July 25th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Many of those farms in Mex­ico are actu­ally or de facto owned by Amer­i­cans. There is a great story there for an enter­pris­ing, bilin­gual jour­nal­ist. Upton Sin­clair, we miss you. Teddy, too.

  5. Danny said on July 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    It didn’t end up being a big deal for us. The vine ripened vari­eties, which are the only edi­ble ones IMO, were read­ily avail­able because they were not suspected.

    Any­way, another topic. I am totally into a “new” group that I just dis­cov­ered: The Cran­ber­ries. And I’m only 10 or 15 years late to the party. Dolores O’Riordan’s voice is won­der­ful. Love that lit­tle Irish accent too. I’ve asked my wife to start affect­ing it, but she just rolls her eyes. She’s not “such a fool” for me sometimes.

    Oh and Brian, I almost for­got. Recently, VH1 has been cel­e­brat­ing the career of The Who with lots of shows and con­cert footage. Great stuff. But you would have been inter­ested in some of the accom­pa­ny­ing Eddy Vedder/PJ footage. He is inter­viewed exten­sively prais­ing them and Pearl Jam did a very kick­ass per­for­mance of sev­eral of their songs from the Quadrophe­nia album (my favorite Who album).

    PJ and Eddy really, really nailed it. His vocals just rocked on “Love, Reign o’er Me.”

  6. whitebeard said on July 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    The big super­mar­kets and food pro­duc­ers have us in their grip and react strongly to any notion to con­trol them. Have you ever gone to a giant super­mar­ket and been told your favorite prod­uct is no longer made but then you find it in smaller locally-owned gro­cery stores. That’s because the man­u­fac­turer has dared to refuse to pay the big super­mar­ket “black­mail” for shelf space to carry its prod­uct. Yes, that hap­pens all the time. There is even an extra fee charged the sup­pli­ers for the cov­eted end-of-aisle dis­play.
    Some­times, the shelf wars become hilar­i­ous; in one local giant super­mar­ket near me, the store man­ager had to end a squab­ble between soft drink rivals, which alo­most came to phys­i­cal blows, by using a tape to mea­sure out the exact shelf space “bought” by the bot­tlers.
    And, prod­ucts will van­ish because the store’s damned com­puter will note that sales of that prod­uct have decreased and curb pur­chases. Even if sales are down because the ship­ment was lost en route because of a high­way acci­dent, the com­puter is king when it comes to re-ordering and couldn’t care less that the prod­uct didn’t arrive.
    Com­put­ers are quick, but they are essen­tially dumb and do what­ever they are told to do. Take the famous, or infa­mous, time a copy edi­tor used the word-replace func­tion to be polit­i­cally cor­rect and the city bud­get story reported how finances, which had been in the red for years, were now in the African-American.

  7. Howie said on July 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    One of my sou­venirs from my recent whirl­wind trip to NYC is a copy of the metro, “The world’s largest global news­pa­per.” Peo­ple hand it out for free as you head into the city. I saved it because of this left-column teaser headline:

    Killer toma­toes attack­ing N.Y.

  8. brian stouder said on July 25th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Danny, thanks for the tip; I will look for that show. I’ll take Eddy and the boys over any­one else, every time

  9. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on July 25th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    And turn­ing up the vol­ume to 11 for “Had Enough” is always a good way to con­clude a Friday …

    “If you find some­thing bet­ter, can you save my place?”

  10. Danny said on July 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Is that your favorite album from The Who too, Jeff? I think I read some­where that Pete thought it was the best he wrote and will ever write.

  11. brian stouder said on July 25th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Music for Friday:

    Even­flow

    Bet­ter Man

    Alive

    and that’s just the drive home! Later on, when things are quiet and the sun is set­ting, turn it down to Ten (par­don the PJ pun) and play Drift­ing (and when the day comes that the kids ask for the keys to the car, crank up Eddy & the boys cov­er­ing Last Kiss)

  12. Gasman said on July 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    The WSJ and AP sto­ries kind of deflates the Repubs inces­sant “Free-Market-is-Always-Better” mantra. What they really mean is that they want Repub­li­cans to be “free” from finan­cial risk. They are all for finan­cial Dar­win­ism when times are good, but the minute their reck­less tac­tics back­fire, they come run­ning to the gov­ern­ment for bailouts. The free mar­ket has done won­ders to the finan­cial mar­kets, food production/delivery, and health care. Maybe a new pres­i­dent who isn’t a cor­po­rate whore can bring a bit of san­ity and fis­cal respon­si­bil­ity back to Washington.

  13. nancy said on July 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    I can’t believe Danny’s just now dis­cov­er­ing the Cran­ber­ries. Wait until he hears about this crazy new act out of Seat­tle, called Nirvana.

  14. Danny said on July 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    …and after I find out about the tradgey that the MTV-gen must refer to as “The Day the Music Died,”, I’ll prob­a­bly dis­cover some of the spirit of Nir­vana lives on in the Foo Fighters.

    I know, it is crazy I hadn’t heard of The Cran­ber­ries. I just love this group now. Been lis­ten­ing to them for a week solid and have even acquired two bootlegs of their con­certs, one from 1994 and one from 1996. Both are excel­lent record­ings right from the sound­board. Full fidelity. Wonderful.

  15. Sue said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Oh, goodie… now let’s all choose sides in the never-ending “Nirvana’s lyrics are pro­found reflec­tions of con­tem­po­rary malaise as evi­denced by the sin­gle line ‘Oh well what­ever nev­er­mind’” vs. “Nirvana’s lyrics show just how badly fooled peo­ple can be by tal­ent­less hacks as evi­denced by the sin­gle line ‘Oh well what­ever nev­er­mind’” argu­ment. Danny, since you are a Who fan and might know some­thing about this type of argu­ment, you get to choose first.

  16. brian stouder said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Here is an arti­cle that I think is unadul­ter­ated balder­dash*, which par­al­lels a recur­ring sub­ject for med­i­ta­tion here­abouts; the effect that the inter­net has on ink/paper publishing.

    The arti­cle is writ­ten as a snarky open-letter to JK Rowl­ing, regard­ing a copy­right infringe­ment that has com­pelled her to launch a lawsuit

    http://​www​.msnbc​.msn​.com/​i​d​/​2​4​1​89855/

    an excerpt:

    So any­way, this forward-thinking group of Inter­net savvy indi­vid­u­als got together and started a non profit orga­ni­za­tion called Cre­ative Com­mons to deal with the unique copy­right needs of the Inter­net. They cre­ated copy­rights which allow oth­ers to expand on your orig­i­nal work to vary­ing degrees, depend­ing on the level you choose.

    Since a Cre­ative Com­mons license isn’t nearly as restric­tive as a tra­di­tional copy­right, it allows oth­ers to build upon or ref­er­ence your orig­i­nal idea, within in the lim­its of your choos­ing. I men­tion this mostly because this Cre­ative Com­mons busi­ness is how things are going to go in the Internet’s future, like it or not. That’s just one of the rea­sons you might want to con­sider the wise words of the judge who advised that you kids, and all your lawyers, find some cre­ative way to set­tle this nasty business.

    Wow.

    ‘You do all the cook­ing, and we’ll plate it, and pat our­selves on the back for our creativity’

    I hope ol’ JK wins the law­suit and makes her adver­saries howl

    *come to think of it, how would one adul­ter­ate balderdash?

  17. Dan said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    “maybe the end­lessly cre­ative mar­ket­place isn’t the best over­seer for this stuff”

    Cause lord knows, there were no food poi­son­ings, no bridge col­lapses, and no bank­ing fias­cos prior to the Rea­gan years and dereg­u­la­tion… and now you can hardly eat a salad or cross a bridge or pay for your house with­out dan­ger­ous tummy rumbles.

  18. Danny said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Sorry, Sue. I’m not a Nir­vana fan in the least. Too depress­ing. Which is say­ing alot, com­ing from a hard­core Pink Floyd fan.

    Hear, hear, Dan. That needed saying.

  19. Gasman said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Dan,
    I’ll be more than happy to let you total all of those kind of screw-ups by Democ­rats and I’ll do the same for Repub­li­cans. Do want to bet which pile will be big­ger by a fac­tor of 5 – 10? I’ve come to expect a cer­tain amount of dis­hon­esty and incom­pe­tence from both par­ties, but come on, since Rea­gan the Rs have taken imbe­cil­ity, arro­gance, and lately total­i­tar­i­an­ism to hith­erto unex­plored heights. On top of all that there is this smug­ness, this sense of con­de­scend­ing impe­ri­ous­ness and hypocrisy that is insult­ing and galling beyond belief. Does any­one remem­ber “Heckuva-Job” Brownie? After 7.5 years of fail­ure (19.5 out of the last 28), isn’t it time to admit that things haven’t gone so well? Or are we still blam­ing Clin­ton and Carter for every­thing bad?

  20. coozledad said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I’m always shocked that my favorite band of the nineties is also the the one I hear most often in gro­cery stores. It’s just that when they rolled around to that dif­fi­cult third third album, they’d already burned them­selves out.
    I still miss The Sun­days, though. This is sup­posed to be live, accord­ing to who­ever posted it, but I have a lit­tle trou­ble believ­ing them:
    http://​youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​2​s​E​y​S​j​r​F​p​0​I​&​a​m​p​;​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​=​r​elated

  21. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Nir­vana has lyrics?

  22. Danny said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Hmm. The Sun­days. I’ll have to check them out. The wiki entry says that they are con­cen­trat­ing on rais­ing their chil­dren. Sounds kinda like what The Cran­ber­ries are doing.

  23. brian stouder said on July 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Their tri­umphant reunions could be com­bined some sum­mer, and called the Cran­berry Sun­dae Tour

  24. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on July 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Ah, drat — Randy Pausch has died. Read Wikipedia before Mitch gets ahold of him, and bet­ter yet, click for the UVa link to the video of his updated “Last Lec­ture” from last fall:

    http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​R​a​n​d​y​_​Pausch

  25. beb said on July 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    The Rowl­ings story is more com­pli­cated than it at first seems. The peo­ple she is suing started a web­site — an ency­clo­pe­dia of all things Harry Pot­ter. Con­tent they cre­ated by read­ing the books exhaus­tively, not­ing all the char­ac­ters, mag­i­cal terms, detailed plot syn­ope­ses, etc.

    In the past Rowl­ings has praised the site and even said, if I recall cor­rectly, that she used it her­self. The issue is that the peo­ple who cre­ated the site want to pro­duce a bound, paper copy of their site. Rowl­ings is suing on the grounds that this will dis­ad­van­tage her when and if she gets around to pro­duc­ing a Harry Pot­ter encyclopedia.

    As far as I know the peo­ple on the site have not greated one word of orig­i­nal Harry Pot­ter fic­tion — on the site. She is in effect argu­ing that you can’t pro­duce a Cliff’s Notes for her Harry Pot­ter books because that would be copy­right infringe­ment. That, to my mind, is going too far.

  26. brian stouder said on July 25th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    beb — Cliff Notes would be one thing, but this looks like another.

    If I put together an exhaus­tive com­pendium of Mickey Mouse mate­r­ial and then mar­keted it, I bet Dis­ney would be upon me — if only because (accord­ing to my lim­ited under­stand­ing) ignor­ing an incur­sion onto a copy­right actu­ally jus­ti­fies fur­ther incur­sions, and you (the orig­i­nal copy­right holder) lose everything.

    One might say that JK should never have been com­pli­men­tary to these peo­ple and their web­site ‘back in the day’, for pre­cisely this reason.

    It just always strikes me as funny that so many bloggers/internet denizens seem so avid to deride ‘old fash­ioned’ print media, even as they always seek (and eagerly cite) any val­i­da­tion from old fash­ioned media that they score.….and then these guys, with their “new media” elec­tronic com­pendium decide that — what the hell — old fash­ioned printed books that peo­ple will actu­ally BUY at a bricks-and-mortar store ain’t such a bad thing afterall!!

  27. Dexter said on July 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    Brian, I gave the lads their dues in Cleve­land. When the Rock & Roll Museum was near­ing com­ple­tion, the “final I-beam” was laid across some sawhorses in between the then-Jacobs Field and the then-Gund Arena.
    Large Sharpie-type mark­ers were pro­vided and any­one could write a mes­sage, allegedly for all-time, to be erected in the HOF build­ing.
    Now remem­ber I was there for a base­ball game, and this thing was a sur­prise, so I thought a sec­ond and scrib­bled “From The Bea­t­les to Pearl Jam, Rock & Roll will never die!!“
    I know I short-changed Bill Haley and all the other rock pio­neers, but I didn’t exactly have time to think things out.
    I won­der if that pole ever got erected ? I used to go down there to the gift shoppe once in a while but never took time for the museum tour. It’s on 9th Street at the bot­tom of the hill right on the lake­front, right beside Burke Lake­front Air­port, home of the god­damdest air­show I ever saw.
    I was at the Indi­ans game, just up 9th Street from the air­port, and those jets con­tin­u­ously shook the ball­park. It was a mem­o­rable expe­ri­ence, for sure.

  28. Danny said on July 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    I agree with Rowl­ing. Cre­at­ing a bound ency­clo­pe­dia does infringe.

    Believe me, I think fan sites can be great. It is the only way that I could have kept track of all of the char­ac­ters from Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time series. But print­ing a bound vol­ume? For profit? Nah, not cool.

  29. beb said on July 25th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    brian stouder says:
    beb — Cliff Notes would be one thing, but this looks like another.

    If I put together an exhaus­tive com­pendium of Mickey Mouse mate­r­ial and then mar­keted it, I bet Dis­ney would be upon me…

    For what? If you list all the car­toons Micky Mouse appeared in isn’t that infor­ma­tion “pub­lic”? If you list all the writ­ers and artists credit in those car­toons — isn’t that pub­lic infor­ma­tion? If I describe the events in each car­toon, where is the copy­right infringe­ment? This is a descrip­tion of copy­righted mate­r­ial, not the copy­righted mate­r­ial itself. If you can not talk about a car­toon you’ve seen with­out the express writ­ten con­cent of the Dis­ney Cor­po­ra­tion, how can any­one write a review? How could any­one write a descrip­tive list­ing in TV Guide? Just because Rowl­ings wrote these sto­ries does not mean that she also owns all dis­cus­sions, observations,indexed or anno­ta­tions of her sto­ries, but that is what it sounds like she’s try­ing to do.

    Then, of course there’s the whole issue that Rowl­ings is claim­ing that if they pub­lish an ency­clo­pe­dia it will dimin­ish her chances to profit from writ­ing an ency­clo­pe­dia, as if any Harry Pot­ter fan would refraim from buy­ing the author’s ency­clo­pe­dia because “they already have one.”

    It seems to me that there have always been guides to var­i­ous media phe­nom­e­noms — whether Star Trek, Star Wars, Xena War­rior Princess, Mid­dle Earth, Nar­nia or Harry Pot­ter. No one before Rowl­ings has raised a fuss.

  30. del said on July 26th, 2008 at 4:38 am

    Sue’s com­ment about Nir­vana lyrics reminds me that I will see The Police tonight in con­cert –“Da doo doo doo, da dah dah dah, is all I’ve got to say to you.” Mean­ing­ful or not? (Elvis Costello to open BTW.)
    Been lis­ten­ing to the Sun­days for a long time. Breathy, sen­sual vocals.

  31. Judith said on July 26th, 2008 at 9:28 am

    As to Open Pri­maries, Indi­ana by law does not have an open pri­mary. The law states that when ask­ing for a bal­lot, the voter is stat­ing that he/she either voted for a major­ity of can­di­dates of that party in the last elec­tion, or (some­times inter­preted) plans to vote for a major­ity of can­di­dates of that party in the next elec­tion. How­ever, this law is sel­dom enforced, and there­fore should be repealed. Even Dan Parker, chair­man of the state Demo­c­ra­tic Party, was inter­viewed by NPR just before the pri­mary, and he agreed that Indi­ana has an Open Pri­mary. Parker, how­ever, dis­agreed with Rush Lim­baugh who was urg­ing Repub­li­cans to vote for the can­di­date Rush thought would be more eas­ily defeated in the Gen­eral Elec­tion. Parker at that time said these vot­ers would be chal­lenged by poll work­ers and not allowed to vote in the pri­mary unless they fol­lowed the law.

    Since I’m adding a com­ment, I will also state how dis­ap­pointed I am that our County Com­mis­sion­ers here in Allen County have announced they will no longer main­tain the bridges of incor­po­rated areas (such as in Fort Wayne, Indi­ana) and they expect the city/town gov­ern­ments to take over. Of course, that chal­lenge was refused, and we are now in a sit­u­a­tion where no one is assum­ing respon­si­bil­ity. The county gov­ern­ments of all Indi­ana coun­ties have always main­tained all bridges not cov­ered by state or fed­eral main­te­nance. And the county receives tax monies from all of the county, includ­ing incor­po­rated areas.

  32. basset said on July 26th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    »Their tri­umphant reunions could be com­bined some sum­mer, and called the Cran­berry Sun­dae Tour

    I’m too old to have any acquain­tance with either of those bands… but it reminds me of the sug­ges­tion that, since the Who’s drum­mer and bass player are both dead, and the Bea­t­les’ drum­mer and bass player are the only ones still alive… the sur­vivors could unite as the “Whotles.”

  33. Danny said on July 26th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Bas­set, Ringo’s son, Zak Starkey, is play­ing for The Who now (and has been for sev­eral years).

  34. coozledad said on July 26th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    You know, I nearly for­got about this kid. I’m not a big Zep fan, but this boy was clearly their heir, in a good way.
    http://​youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​s​i​N​s​g​bIWhAQ

  35. basset said on July 26th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    »Ringo’s son, Zak Starkey, is play­ing for The Who now

    and with Oasis for sev­eral years before, or maybe dur­ing, that… their ver­sion of “I Am The Wal­rus” is one of my favorite Bea­t­les cov­ers ever, dunno if he’s on it though.

    (the rest of the top three… 801’s “Tomor­row Never Knows” and Wil­son Pickett’s “Hey Jude” with Duane All­man on guitar)

  36. moe99 said on July 26th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Dorothy Dun­nett, the best writer of his­tor­i­cal fic­tion ever did not object to the cre­ation of two ency­clo­pe­dias help­ing her read­ers keep straight the amaz­ing tan­gle of his­tory that she used in both the Lymond chron­i­cles and Nic­colo series, to weave the sto­ries. She was very gen­er­ous to her numer­ous and enthu­si­as­tic fans.

  37. caliban said on July 27th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Any­body that came from MA would embrace the Pix­ies as a prety good bamn. They’re not the Lyres, who were much bet­ter, Their no Bar­rece and and the Savanes, who could really rip it. Not Limbo Race, nor the Zulus. Now we’ve got Bird­songs, and, holy crap, Burma.

    I grew up in Detroit. I used to sit in cen­ter field and dtalk to a bunch of huys that could have been Joghn Kee Hooker. I have to lis­ten to morons rgaard­ing Detroit music. Now We have to deal with trash­ing Boston music at the same time? I’d say you’d have to remit to Barry and the Remains. ‘Truth is the light, light is the day, more folks know, less they have to say.

    Tell you what. I could decide a death penalty case, but I’ve got to tell you right now, No way is it right to take anybody’s life, no mat­ter what you thought he did.

  38. brian stouder said on July 28th, 2008 at 10:00 am

    No way is it right to take anybody’s life

    hmmmmm.….people who tail­gate on the inter­state, while on their cell phones might deserve ol’ Sparky; and it’s off to the gal­lows for the Aber­crombe peo­ple, who assault your nose with over­pow­er­ing per­fume in the mall; and up against the wall with all who insist on act­ing like pigs at a trough at the free break­fast bar in the hotel.….

    (we ran off to Indy this past weekend)