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Make up your mind.

Hey, look! I got a post­card from Sarah Palin:

Gov­erned from the cen­ter, eh? Let’s see what the other side of the card says:

Whu-? Stem-cell research? Cli­mate change? Bill Ayers for the pro­les, stem-cell research for the college-educated sub­urbs? What­ever works, I guess. My zip code is telling the world too much about me.

I turned off “Mar­ket­place” last night when they got to the news of GM and Ford’s stock price ($4.76 and $2.08, respec­tively). There’s a down­side to liv­ing in a com­pany town, and this is it. I’m think­ing I’m going to restrict myself to the digest items for a while, lest I fall down hyper­ven­ti­lat­ing. I took the dog for a mean­der — “walk” doesn’t really describe our excur­sions these days — and thought about other scary times in his­tory. I was Kate’s age in 1968, a year that must have seemed at least as per­ilous as this one, and I don’t recall my par­ents doing any­thing more than dis­cussing cur­rent events calmly. I was dri­ving with my mother one night in May 1970 when the radio broad­cast was inter­rupted by an emer­gency bul­letin direct­ing all off-duty Colum­bus police offi­cers to report to their local sta­tion house imme­di­ately. The stu­dent riots that fol­lowed the inva­sion of Cam­bo­dia had begun, and while Ohio saw blood spilled and lives lost by the end of it, all my mother said about the muster of police was, “It must be some­thing on campus.”

So that’s the role model, right there: Calm acknowl­edg­ment, sans freak-out. I made a men­tal list of every­thing I could do to get through this, and came up with:

1) Make soup.
2) Exer­cise.
3) Drink lots of water.
4) Keep the house look­ing nice.
5) Take good notes.

So we had a cur­ried but­ter­nut squash/apple soup — recipe in the Junior League cook­book, which gives the lie to the old myth about WASPs not appre­ci­at­ing non-salt-and-pepper fla­vors — and got our vit­a­min A.

It’s prob­a­bly just as well I’m con­cen­trat­ing on soup, because I no longer under­stand the world of finance (if I ever did). Ford and GM have plants all over the world, pro­duc­tion lines, prod­uct that’s still sell­ing (badly, but still sell­ing). I don’t under­stand how the mar­ket could value them at a frac­tion of what you could get even if you pulled the plug on the whole busi­ness and parted out each and every factory.

This is what a lack of liq­uid­ity does, I guess. Can’t get a loan, can’t get a car. Even Toy­ota sales are down by a third. How this shakes out remains to be seen — that’s a phrase they teach you on the first day of j-school — but I don’t imag­ine it’ll be pretty.

It’s hard to believe I’m going to spend the next two week­ends mak­ing a no-budget zom­bie movie. On the other hand, why not make a zom­bie movie? What else should I do? Start cut­ting fire­wood for sup­ple­men­tal heating?

Speak­ing of which, my co-executive pro­ducer sent out the all-hands e-mail yes­ter­day. Because we’re no-budget, we require the cast to wear their own clothes for cos­tumes. With some caveats, of course:

Julie, busi­ness casual as well, but please wear clothes that you don’t have to wear again. A wooden stake is going into the front of your blouse and com­ing out the back.

As our makeup guy said, “Let the good times roll.” Have a good weekend.

55 responses to
“Make up your mind.”

  1. coozledad said on October 10th, 2008 at 9:44 am

  2. Connie said on October 10th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    So if the parts of GM are worth more why not buy GM stock at this low price?

    Not that I have any ready funds to do that, I have another But­ler tuition bill due right after Christ­mas, and haven’t yet seen any bills for my 20% share of last week’s major med­ical event. I do know there won’t be much Christ­mas gift­ing at my house this year.

  3. Jolene said on October 10th, 2008 at 10:22 am

    So if the parts of GM are worth more why not buy GM stock at this low price?

    Very likely, the Chi­nese will do this.

  4. nancy said on October 10th, 2008 at 10:24 am

    I guess, tech­ni­cally, a stock price is based on a company’s prof­itabil­ity (not good), while its bonds are more closely linked to its base­line value. But yeah, I expect some bargain-basement sales all over the For­tune 500 soon.

  5. Jeff Borden said on October 10th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    It’s a shame we can­not emu­late the British, who set the stan­dard for get­ting on with life while the Luft­waffe was bomb­ing Eng­land day and night dur­ing the Blitz.

    The oper­a­tive phrase was, “Stay calm. Carry on.”

    We have seen the dis­as­trous results when we act swiftly on our fears in the War in Iraq, the Patriot Act, FISA and any num­ber of other ini­tia­tives that have given our gov­ern­ment carte blanche to impede on lib­er­ties that past gen­er­a­tions fought and bled to protect.

    We must approach this eco­nomic melt­down coolly and intel­li­gently. We must “cow­boy up” and get to work, not give in to anger and fury. I hope we are up to the task.

  6. Jolene said on October 10th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    From a David Brooks op-ed in yesterday’s NYT:

    The Repub­li­cans have alien­ated whole pro­fes­sions. Lawyers now donate to the Demo­c­ra­tic Party over the Repub­li­can Party at 4-to-1 rates. With doc­tors, it’s 2-to-1. With tech exec­u­tives, it’s 5-to-1. With invest­ment bankers, it’s 2-to-1. It took tal­ent for Repub­li­cans to lose the bank­ing community.

    Pretty amaz­ing facts. Know-nothingism is, of course, an old Amer­i­can tra­di­tion, but that’s tak­ing it pretty far. Doesn’t exactly seem com­pat­i­ble with the idea of approach­ing the eco­nomic melt­down “coolly and intel­li­gently” either.

    Also rel­e­vant, this analy­sis of McCain’s health care pro­posal, which is attract­ing crit­i­cism from, of all places, the busi­ness com­mu­nity. The plan seems to be an effort to address a prob­lem based on ide­ol­ogy, absent any acknowl­edg­ment of the facts.

  7. alex said on October 10th, 2008 at 11:00 am

    It’s begin­ning to sound like the real Sarah Palin is sup­posed to appear on SNL in a few weeks. Think she’ll break with the script and do a Sinead O’Connor?

  8. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am

    NYT:

    Octo­ber 10, 2008
    Let­ter
    Pros­e­cut­ing Weath­er­men
    To the Editor:

    “Re “Pol­i­tics of Attack” [edi­to­r­ial, Oct. 8] and “Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths” (front page, Oct. 4):

    As the lead fed­eral pros­e­cu­tor of the Weath­er­men in the 1970s (I was then chief of the crim­i­nal divi­sion in the East­ern Dis­trict of Michi­gan and took over the Weath­er­men pros­e­cu­tion in 1972), I am amazed and out­raged that Sen­a­tor Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s ter­ror­ist activ­i­ties 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

    Although I dearly wanted to obtain con­vic­tions against all the Weath­er­men, includ­ing Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a respon­si­ble citizen.

    Because Sen­a­tor Obama recently served on a board of a char­i­ta­ble orga­ni­za­tion with Mr. Ayers can­not pos­si­bly link the sen­a­tor to acts per­pe­trated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

    I do take issue with the state­ment in your news arti­cle that the Weath­er­men indict­ment was dis­missed because of “pros­e­cu­to­r­ial mis­con­duct.” It was dis­missed because of ille­gal activ­i­ties, includ­ing wire­taps, break-ins and mail inter­cep­tions, ini­ti­ated by John N. Mitchell, attor­ney gen­eral at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assis­tant director.

    William C. Ibershof

    Mill Val­ley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008″

    Mark Felt, of course, was later iden­ti­fied as Deep Throat.

  9. Jeff Borden said on October 10th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    Fear-mongering is all McCain-Palin have left and it is damned scary stuff. Any­one seen the video of those lunatics in Strongsville, Ohio claim­ing Obama has ter­ror­ist blood­lines? The tone and tenor of their ral­lies reminds me of the blind hatred and fury of the school bus­ing sit­u­a­tion in South Boston all those years ago. These peo­ple are seri­ously pissed off and the GOP is only fan­ning the flames.

    I can­not believe that the John McCain I might’ve con­sid­ered vot­ing for in 2000 has mor­phed into this small, nasty piece of work will­ing to fur­ther rend the nation’s frag­ile fab­ric in his single-minded quest for the White House.

  10. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Does this mean, that if Obama wins, the fight­ing over the Viet­nam War is over?

    http://​tinyurl​.com/​4ltq8d

  11. Peter said on October 10th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    There was an arti­cle once on Southwest’s flight atten­dents and their folksy man­ner, and one of their monolouges has stuck with me for years, and I thought about it again today when the Tri­bune announced: “All signs point to panic”. The flight atten­dent said that when cabin air pres­sure drops, the emer­gency breath­ing appa­ra­tus appears from the over­head com­part­ments. She then said “First thing you do is to STOP SCREAMING. Then take the mara­garine con­tainer with the bal­loon on it, put the rub­ber band around your head, and breathe like you’ve never breathed before”.

  12. Jolene said on October 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Gene Wein­garten is look­ing for syn­onyms for “plum­met”.

  13. Gasman said on October 10th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    We should all be very con­cerned about the will­ing­ness of John McCain to whip his sup­port­ers into fren­zied mobs. This WaPo story from yes­ter­day ties in with the Huff​in​g​ton​post​.com videos in yesterday’s thread:

    http://​www​.wash​ing​ton​post​.com/​w​p​-​d​y​n​/​c​o​n​t​e​n​t​/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​/​2​0​0​8​/​1​0​/​0​9​/​A​R​2​0​0​8​1​0​0​9​0​3​1​6​9.html

    McCain seems to need to cre­ate an arti­fi­cial sense of emo­tion and urgency, because his plat­form sure as hell isn’t gen­er­at­ing a groundswell of inter­est nation­ally. The prob­lem is, he stokes the frenzy to such fever­ish lev­els, that when his mes­sage gets to bipar­ti­san­ship, the mob will have none of it:

    “The crowds that show up for his ral­lies these days appear to have lit­tle appetite for the talk of bipar­ti­san com­pro­mise that had been at the heart of his mes­sage around the Repub­li­can National Con­ven­tion. Dur­ing a rally out­side a small air­port in Mosi­nee, Wis., on Thurs­day, McCain said that “it’s time we come together, Democ­rats and Repub­li­cans to work together. That’s my record. I’ll reach across the aisle.”

    “The crowd stood silent.”

    By adopt­ing such hate-mongering rhetoric, by openly encour­ag­ing the less-lernin’-iz-good crowd, the lunatic fringe, and the closet racists, he is vir­tu­ally guar­an­tee­ing his defeat. How­ever, he will leave in his wake a con­tin­gent of dis­af­fected losers who will fuel the lat­est anti-government move­ment. The last time the Repub­li­cans flirted with the anti-government Michi­gan Mili­tia crowd, we had the Okla­homa City bomb­ings. I am afraid that there are those same vio­lent ten­den­cies among the most rabid of McCain’s supporters.

    McCain is going to leave a wreck­age of hate in his wake. How does this help pro­mote bipar­ti­san­ship? How is this rep­re­sen­ta­tive of his “reach­ing across the aisle?” He’s reach­ing across alright, to stran­gle any­one who stands between him and the White House. His cam­paign feigns uncon­cern for such tac­tics, again from the WaPo article:

    “McCain advis­ers dis­missed the crowd’s angry tone as an excep­tion and not rep­re­sen­ta­tive of most of the campaign’s events.”

    Unrep­re­sen­ta­tive? The pat­tern has been doc­u­mented in at least three ral­lies in three dif­fer­ent states. McCain is respon­si­ble for cre­at­ing this mob men­tal­ity. It is quite clear that he has no con­trol over his McCain­waf­fen storm troopers.

  14. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

  15. Julie Robinson said on October 10th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Sev­eral years ago the atten­dant on our South­west flight went through the whole spiel about the oxy­gen masks and how we should put our own on first before our chil­dren, blah blah blah. Then she con­tin­ued that if we were fly­ing with more than one child we needed to decide which one we liked bet­ter. Straight face, no change in voice; and very few peo­ple noticed. It was that kind of atti­tude and humor that I loved on South­west. Cheap prices, too, of course. But now it seems that all the air­line and TSA woes have affected them too; they are no longer laid-back and happy. Like our whole coun­try these days.

  16. Hattie said on October 10th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Fine and dandy. Look where laid back and happy has got­ten us. Let’s be uptight and pissed off and never believe things are easy, ever again.
    That, young ones, is the road to TRUE happiness.

  17. Gasman said on October 10th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    My Mom sent me this gem about Palin’s God fear­ing faithful:

    http://​www​.salon​.com/​o​p​i​n​i​o​n​/​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​/​2​0​0​8​/​1​0​/​0​3​/​d​e​b​a​t​e​_​w​a​s​i​l​l​a​/​i​n​d​e​x.html

    Appar­ently, God is a McCain/Palin sup­porter. What will be the reac­tion when they lose? These “good” Chris­tians see their suc­cess as God’s val­i­da­tion of their own piety. If they don’t suc­ceed, it cer­tainly won’t be an indi­ca­tion of God’s dis­plea­sure. No, they will ascribe an Obama vic­tory to the sin­is­ter power of Satan and his witches.

    As one respon­der to the Salon​.com arti­cle said, “Kind of like how win­ning teams are quick to thank God for the win, but you never hear the los­ing teams say “I want to thank God for teach­ing us humil­ity in this great defeat.”

    As a Chris­t­ian, I am offended at such igno­rant heresy. These pious souls would reduce Chris­tian­ity to a First Cen­tury cult of super­sti­tious non­sense. If this were the only ver­sion of Chris­tian­ity avail­able, I tell you plainly that I would leave the Church. For­tu­nately, there are many Chris­tians who believe that Jesus was not like the nar­row minded xeno­phobes in the arti­cle above. There is no way in hell that you can place the impri­matur Jesus Christ on those kind of reli­gious views.

  18. Connie said on October 10th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Totally unre­lated: another great hawk pic for Brian. This one is using our solar cov­ered pool as a bird bath. http://​elmores​.net/​r​o​u​n​d​-​h​e​r​e​/​c​o​m​m​e​n​t​s​.​p​h​p​?​i​d​=​1​4​8​0​_​0​_1_0_C

  19. Dexter said on October 10th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    ..any of you folks catch the episode of last season’s “Jour­ney­man”, where our trav­eller wakes up aboard a 1970 flight? EVERYBODY smok­ing cig­a­rettes, extra-short mini skirted “stews”…people milling in the aisles with drinks in each hand (and most all pas­sen­gers high one way or another)…they had it down! Those cab­ins filled up with “harm­less” cig­a­rette smoke in hurry, booze was cheap and you could bring a pint on board with you, no problem…beer was sold cheaply…my brother flew to KC last month and said a beer was $8 for a can.
    Except for west coast redeyes, those 1970’s plane rides were a blast!

  20. ellen said on October 10th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Today on rush lim­baugh (so next week’s talk­ing points for repub­li­cans): The finan­cial cri­sis is a social­ist plot engi­neered to bring down cap­i­tal­ism. The Democ­rats are the social­ists. The con­ser­v­a­tives are the cap­i­tal­ists. Time for McCain to step up and be a true Amer­i­can hero and save us from the the red men­ace. And any­one who doesn’t believe this is a socialist!McCarthyism!

  21. ellen said on October 10th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Today on rush lim­baugh (so next week’s talk­ing points for repub­li­cans): The finan­cial cri­sis is a social­ist plot engi­neered to bring down cap­i­tal­ism. The Democ­rats are the social­ists. The con­ser­v­a­tives are the cap­i­tal­ists. Time for McCain to step up and be a true Amer­i­can hero and save us from the red men­ace. And any­one who doesn’t believe this is a socialist!McCarthyism resurrected!

  22. mark said on October 10th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    nancy:

    You write: I don’t under­stand how the mar­ket could value them (Ford and GM) at a frac­tion of what you could get even if you pulled the plug on the whole busi­ness and parted out each and every fac­tory.” You sug­gested that this may be a con­se­quence of the liq­uid­ity crises.

    I think you are only slightly cor­rect. So long as they can bor­row money to finance their busi­ness plans, the mar­ket can bet on the like­li­hood of their long term suc­cess. When the bor­row­ing becomes more dif­fi­cult or more expen­sive, a bet on the auto mak­ers becomes a lit­tle more of a long shot.

    The big­ger prob­lem is that your state­ment con­tains a false premise. You can’t buy either busi­ness and just liq­ui­date it. The Big Three all have agree­ments with the UAW that pro­hibit the sale of the busi­ness (or any sig­nif­i­cant por­tion of it) unless the buyer assumes the union con­tract and the lia­bil­i­ties under it. The prin­ci­pal lia­bil­i­ties are pen­sion and health care ben­ef­fits for hun­dreds of thou­sands of retirees.

    You are also assum­ing that the assets have value in excess of the debt already secured by them. I don’t know the answer to that question.

    Only in a bank­ruptcy court could these oblig­a­tions be undone with­out the con­sent of the UAW. That’s dis­cussed as a pos­si­ble course of action to save the com­pa­nies (like UAL did) but it wipes out equity for hold­ers of com­mon stock.

    Some indus­try ana­lysts have said, not face­tiously, that the main rea­son for exis­tence of the Big Three has become the con­tin­u­a­tion of pay­ment on promises to retirees.

    moe–

    Inter­est­ing let­ter from Iber­shof, but has any­one actu­ally attempted to “link the sen­a­tor to acts per­pe­trated by Mr. Ayres” as he claims? I think it is pretty well-accepted that Obama was eight when the acts occurred (maybe 12 or 13 if he is lying about his age) and not a mem­ber of or bag­man for the Weath­er­men. How could Obama pos­si­bly be linked to the acts com­mit­ted by Ayres?

    There has been an attempt to link Obama to Ayres. Mr. Iber­shof doesn’t com­ment on what those links are, if any.

  23. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    The only ‘acts’ that could link Obama to Ayers are the meet­ings they attended together as mem­bers of the Annen­berg char­ity board and the one cof­fee that Ayers gave for Obama when he first ran for state office. Other than that, the right wing has noth­ing. I will point out that Ayers is a Dis­tin­guished pro­fes­sor at the Uni­ver­sity of Illi­nois and received an award from the city of Chicago for his work in edu­ca­tion. But if we go by the rabid right wing, he has to wear his scar­let “A” for­ever, there is no hope of redemp­tion by sub­se­quent good works. Yet this only applies selec­tively. G.Gordon Liddy, despite his crim­i­nal con­vic­tion and serv­ing a prison sen­tence is deemed socially accept­able. These dou­ble stan­dards are the down­fall of the Repub­li­cans. Any­one who cites Ayers as a rea­son for not vot­ing for Obama given the absolute lack of con­nec­tions to any­thing that even remotely resem­bles a park­ing ticket, has my utter contempt.

  24. Jeff Borden said on October 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    You guys wanna know some­thing weird? I occa­sion­ally play poker with Bill Ayers’ younger brother, who also is involved in edu­ca­tional ini­tia­tives in the Chicago region. He’s no rad­i­cal –has a big house in Oak Park and two daugh­ters– but he does talk fast and likes expen­sive cigars.

    Oh, wait, he must be a Cas­tro lover!!!

  25. Jolene said on October 10th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Wow! Just read this arti­cle by Dan Balz in the Post. This is analy­sis, not straight report­ing, but, still, I was sur­prised to see this paragraph:

    But what’s also clear is that McCain’s tac­tics are over the line, with no restraint in sight, and threaten to pro­voke reac­tions among par­ti­sans on both sides that will con­tinue to escalate.

    Balz a pretty, straight-up guy who has likely cov­ered McCain for years – not a par­ti­san. He’s also a very expe­ri­enced reporter, so no stranger to what goes on in the last days of hard-fought races. Still, he seems gen­uinely shocked by what he is seeing.

  26. Catherine said on October 10th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    My mind is made up, I love cur­ried bnut squash and apple soup. There’s a great recipe in my Santa Fe cook­book (JL cook­books gen­er­ally rock, too).

    And as Jeff said, “I can­not believe that the John McCain I might’ve con­sid­ered vot­ing for in 2000″ is sink­ing to these lev­els. To hear NPR tell it, he’s try­ing to keep it rea­son­ably civ­i­lized but the Palin wing of his cam­paign thinks it’s time to play every sin­gle card in the hand. A few days ago, there was much dis­cus­sion of the phrase, “That one.” It struck me as more con­de­scend­ing and angry than racist, and I thought to myself, when those folks actu­ally play the race card, we’ll know. It won’t be sub­tle. Time to get ready to call, I think they’re about to play it.

  27. Jolene said on October 10th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Jeff, that’s very funny. Today, Kath­leen Parker, the con­ser­v­a­tive colum­nist who sug­gested that Sarah Palin should step down, said on MSNBC that the pres­i­dent of North­west­ern Uni­ver­sity was also a mem­ber of the board for the Annen­berg Challenge.

  28. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    They’re now going after Michelle Obama. I would call them swine, but I think too much of pigs:
    http://​tinyurl​.com/​4xr8ak

  29. Jolene said on October 10th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Here is a very clear dis­cus­sion of McCain’s health plan. I thought it was very use­ful. The author cuts to quick by point­ing out that the dis­tinc­tion between them is the degree to which they focus on auton­omy (McCain) vs. sol­i­dar­ity (Obama).

    I’ve never been impressed w/ the idea that costs would dimin­ish if peo­ple had to pay more directly for their own health­care. It’s not an area in which most peo­ple can be smart shop­pers – even for basic care, let alone the care you need if you get sick or injured.

    There’s no par­al­lel dis­cus­sion of Obama’s plan, but per­haps that is coming.

  30. Jeff Borden said on October 10th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    The McCain-Palin cam­paign enters sub­ter­ranean ter­ri­tory. Two of their spokes­peo­ple are blast­ing Obama for “attack­ing” their sup­port­ers who yell “trai­tor,” “ter­ror­ist” or “kill him” at these ral­lies. This is in response to O-man’s com­ments ear­lier today about how easy it is to whip up a crowd frenzy.

    Amer­i­cans hold­ing stocks have watched them decline in value by more than 30%. The world is slip­ping into a global depres­sion. Freak­ing Ice­land is bank­rupt. And this is the level of dis­cus­sion we get from the Repub­li­cans. God, what a bank­rupt party.

  31. joodyb said on October 10th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    do NOT open your 401(k) state­ments next week.

  32. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

  33. joodyb said on October 10th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    the inter­na­tional press is my only sal­va­tion right now.

    http://​tinyurl​.com/​4vmgsx

  34. Gasman said on October 10th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    mark,
    I am curi­ous as to why you included the phrase “Obama was eight when the acts occurred (maybe 12 or 13 if he is lying about his age)”? Do you pos­sess any evi­dence or facts that he may indeed be lying about his age? Why, in God’s name, would you include that charge? Is it not pos­si­ble to admit that McCain is over­step­ping the bound­aries of decency and truth­ful­ness with­out insin­u­at­ing another charge? You reck­lessly lob unsub­stan­ti­ated charges over the tran­som and run. That is the kind of cow­ardly garbage that has been com­ing from McCain/Palin camp.

    You cloak your post as a pseudo intel­lec­tual dis­cus­sion of finan­cial mat­ters and then lob this turd into the mix. You then seem to sug­gest that the Iber­shof denun­ci­a­tion is flawed as well because nobody has ade­quately dis­proved the asso­ci­a­tion between Ayres and Obama. Are you sug­gest­ing that a lack of evi­dence is some­how evi­dence of coverup? If so, you’ve strayed into the realm of the clin­i­cally insane con­spir­acy nuts who see non-evidence as evi­dence in cloud pat­terns in the sky.

    I’ve got another pos­si­bil­ity as to why there is no evi­dence: there is indeed, no con­nec­tion! Your sug­ges­tion that he might have been 12 or even 13 is beyond absurd! What f$%king dif­fer­ence could that pos­si­bly make? An eight year old Obama could not have any­thing to do with Ayers’ ter­ror­ist activ­i­ties, but a 12 or 13 year old could?

    You typ­ify the tor­tured logic that must be employed to sup­port the amoral can­di­dacy of McCain and Palin. It seems that you’ve taken your cue from the top of the ticket. I’ve said it before, if your side is so damn good, why do you have to resort to such sleazy tac­tics to advance your cause? Now I see that your side has resorted to attack­ing Michelle Obama because “she might have known” Ayres’ wife. What des­per­a­tion the McCain camp must be feel­ing to sink so low.

  35. moe99 said on October 10th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Alaska panel report released by unan­i­mous vote (lots of Repubs there). Finds Palin abused her power when she fired Walt Mon­eghan. This isn’t the kind of per­son we want as vp, my friends.

    Here’s the report…all 263 pages of it for you night owls:

    http://​tinyurl​.com/​4262tq

  36. LA Mary said on October 10th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Too late for me, Joodyb, or rather too late for my ex who never changed his address with Janus fund. He’s not look­ing too good. Lost about a third.

  37. joodyb said on October 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    we’re told not to be sur­prised at 30% losses. i amaz­ingly dumped my PIMCO bond fund allo­ca­tion into Con­tra­fund when Lehman Bros. went belly-up. the rumor the day before was that most of my pimco fund’s cash hold­ings were in Lehman. oth­er­wise i’d be worse off.
    just keep think­ing it’s LONG TERM, if you can main­tain faith in free enter­prise, that is.

    i see it as money i never really had. just doing my part for the 8+trillion in paper losses.

  38. joodyb said on October 10th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    a good resource for us insom­ni­acs, moe. thanks.

  39. Jolene said on October 11th, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Some­thing else for insom­ni­aics: a touch­ing and insight­ful essay re how black Amer­i­cans would feel if Obama loses by Ta-Nehisi Coates, the per­son whose blog and book I men­tioned a while back.

  40. mark said on October 11th, 2008 at 12:21 am

    gas­man–

    You need to take it easy.

    The par­en­thet­i­cal about Obama’s age was an attempt at humor, noth­ing more. I found the sug­ges­tion that Obama could be linked to Ayres’ bomb­ing activ­i­ties absurd– humor­ously so. Obama was play­ing kick­ball or some­thing when Ayres was blow­ing things up.

    Cloak­ing? I responded to two dif­fer­ent sub­jects, raised by dif­fer­ent authors in sep­a­rate posts. Respond­ing sequen­tially seemed like a rea­son­able approach.

    If, to you, my prior post “seem[s] to sug­gest that the Iber­shof denun­ci­a­tion is flawed as well because nobody has ade­quately dis­proved the asso­ci­a­tion between Ayres and Obama,” then you should read more care­fully before respond­ing. I sug­gested that Iber­shoff refutes a link that nobody has claimed (Obama to Ayres’ activ­i­ties), and says noth­ing about the link that some have alleged (Obama to Ayres).

    And that is all I sug­gested in the five sen­tences I wrote.

    I don’t con­sider myself to be on a “side” so your com­ments directed to the same aren’t of much inter­est to me.

    And thank you for the very demon­stra­tive lec­ture on tor­tured logic and sleazy tactics.

  41. Gasman said on October 11th, 2008 at 12:45 am

    So, the best that Saint Sarah, Queen of All That Is Right­eous, can claim is that she didn’t break the law con­cern­ing the fir­ing of Pub­lic Safety Com­mis­sioner Walt Mon­e­gan. How­ever, the bipar­ti­san — let me say that again — BIPARTISAN com­mis­sion ruled UNANIMOUSLY that she abused her author­ity and did vio­late state ethics law in try­ing to get her ex-brother in law fired. I might not be so smug had she not been the offered up as the moral­ist emis­sary of the fundagel­i­cals, a fresh faced Chris­t­ian beauty queen who would usher in the Will Of God into this race against the pagan, Mus­lim, ter­ror­ist Obama. Cue crowd: Kill him! Kill him!

    I am going to enjoy lis­ten­ing to the spin that the McCain/Palin cam­paign is going to try and put on this. It reminds me of Repub­li­can Gov­er­nor Bill Clements of Texas whose lies were revealed imme­di­ately after his sec­ond elec­tion. His defense? “There wasn’t a Bible in the room!” Palin is an arro­gant bully, a liar, and now, a crim­i­nal. But I’m sure Jesus would have done the same. I see Satan’s bony red hand behind all of this!

    Let us not for­get that Palin came into office pledg­ing to be open, hon­est, and eth­i­cal in con­trast to her pre­de­ces­sor. I won­der when those promises start to kick in?

    Palin is just another in a long line of eth­i­cally chal­lenged Repub­li­cans that the party keeps trot­ting out. A word out to Repub­li­cans: if you could pos­si­bly man­age to find some hon­est and trust­wor­thy can­di­dates, your rep­u­ta­tion, record, high rate of indictments/convictions, and elec­toral results might not be so bad. Maybe this, along with the abysmally grubby nature of the McCain/Palin cam­paign will help usher in the reform this party has needed for nearly 3 decades.

    McCain and Palin are SOOOOO going to lose! Hallelujah!

  42. Gasman said on October 11th, 2008 at 12:49 am

    mark,
    Your attempts at humor look for all the world sus­pi­ciously like the charges that you have trot­ted out in your var­i­ous post­ing per­sonae. If you need to explain the joke, it’s not much of a joke.

  43. Dexter said on October 11th, 2008 at 12:53 am

    …“he’s uh ARAB!!”

    …“I’m SCARED to have my new­born brought into a world with Obama as President!”

    Thank you, racist repuggs ! You made your can­di­date aban­don his hate campaign…now where will he turn; who will he turn to?
    http://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​9​l​N​_​A​R​l​r​u​_​w​&​a​m​p​;​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​=​r​elated

  44. Gasman said on October 11th, 2008 at 1:39 am

    It seems that as John McCain looked down into the gap­ing yaw of the mon­ster he cre­ated, and he blinked. He seems to be recoil­ing from his own handiwork:

    http://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​S​I​S​r​k​LAcdTM

    I must con­fess that after all of the ran­cor and char­ac­ter assas­si­na­tion that he has orches­trated against Obama, I would not have thought that he was capa­ble any­more of basic decency. I hope that he can reign in his sur­ro­gates, Palin, and Repug­nant­can zom­bies who are still chant­ing, “Kill Him! He’s a TERROROIST! He’s an ARAB! Kill Him! KILL HIM, NOW!”

    Maybe, just maybe McCain can end his polit­i­cal career on a some­what higher note. Let us hope. I would hap­pily lend him a hand if he were will­ing to step up out of the gut­ter. As a Pres­by­ter­ian, I am all in favor of redemption.

  45. Gasman said on October 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Am I psy­chic, or what?:

    “If you read the report, you will see that there was noth­ing unlaw­ful,” Palin said as she emerged from her hotel in Pitts­burgh, Pennsylvania.”

    As I pre­dicted, she seems to think that merely not break­ing the law in fir­ing Walt Mon­e­gan is some­thing to be proud of. Aside from receiv­ing a major smack­down from her fel­low Repub­li­cans on the bipar­ti­san com­mis­sion, the most damn­ing thing in the report was what was not said:

    “The Branch­flower report states Todd Palin used his wife’s office and its resources to press for Wooten’s removal, and the gov­er­nor “failed to act” to stop it. But because Todd Palin is not a state employee, the report makes no find­ing regard­ing his conduct.”

    Todd Palin seems to have been act­ing as Deputy Gov­er­nor, doing what­ever he damned well pleased. Last time I checked, his name was never on any bal­lot. To whom is he account­able? Would he exer­cise the same kind of rogue unof­fi­cial offi­cial port­fo­lio as Sec­ond Dude of the United States? Remem­ber, this is the same guy who thinks that seces­sion is an option for states. Just another rea­son to make sure Todd’s wife never, ever, EVER gets near the White House — except as a visitor.

  46. moe99 said on October 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Gas­man, don’t be too san­guine about McCain’s ‘ref­or­ma­tion.’ NPR this am said that 15 min­utes later at the rally he was back to demo­niz­ing Obama for his asso­ci­a­tion with Ayers. It’s like he can’t really quit him­self of the prac­tice, it’s too ingrained in him now.

  47. moe99 said on October 11th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    This was too long to post here, so I wrote it over there:

    http://​tinyurl​.com/​3muqyj

  48. Gasman said on October 11th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    moe99,
    You’ve echoed my sen­ti­ments. I hope that McCain’s brief retreat is a sig­nal of his reluc­tance to pur­sue the “kitchen sink” strat­egy. He launched it on Mon­day here in Albu­querque and by Fri­day his mobs were already uncon­trol­lable. Inci­den­tally, I saw that the Secret Ser­vice is inves­ti­gat­ing the “Kill Him!” com­ments. They take a dim view on threats toward their charges. McCain is suf­fer­ing some pretty severe blow­back already from his new scorched earth pol­icy. If he doesn’t back off, I pre­dict he will push many promi­nent Repub­li­cans to dis­avow him. I guess his con­duct this week­end will indi­cate which way McCain intends to go. Which can­di­date has looked the most pres­i­den­tial this week?

    Any McCain sup­port­ers who are left, please view this:

    http://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​-​r​U​T​X​f​u​z​6​S​0​&​a​m​p​;​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​=​r​elated

    Would you care to say now that McCain is not a liar?

  49. moe99 said on October 11th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    An invo­ca­tion given at a McCain rally. From the AP

    “I would also pray, Lord, that your rep­u­ta­tion is involved in all that hap­pens between now and Novem­ber, because there are mil­lions of peo­ple around this world pray­ing to their god — whether it’s Hindu, Bud­dha, Allah — that his oppo­nent wins, for a vari­ety of rea­sons,” [Pas­tor] Con­rad said.

    “And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own rep­u­ta­tion, because they’re going to think that their god is big­ger than you, if that hap­pens. So I pray that you will step for­ward and honor your own name with all that hap­pens between now and Elec­tion Day,”

  50. James said on October 11th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    You can’t blame McCain for his actions.

    He has an excuse.

  51. James said on October 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Moe99:

    That’s just… crazy. Sup­pli­cat­ing to a God who you believe vain enough to inter­cede in an elec­tion, just to pre­serve his rep.

    Insan­ity.

  52. caliban said on October 11th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Sarah told Bill Kris­tol she couldn’t under­stand why Mc’Cain didn’t bring up the pas­tor. Ahem. Well, there’s Pas­tor Hagee:

    http://​www​.cjr​.org/​c​a​m​p​a​i​g​n​_​d​e​s​k​/​t​h​e​_​m​c​c​a​i​n​h​a​g​e​e​_​c​o​n​n​e​c​t​i​o​n​_1.php

    This guy’s a world-class anti-semite. More than that, this guy call’s my church the Whore of Baby­lon. If you live in the unined states (Can the whiney lit­tle ahole speak Eng­lish or only whine? Or talk like Gidget?)

    Then there’s Ms. Palins pas­tor, who prob­a­bly believes in female circumcision.

    The board on which Obama served with ayres was selected by th Annen­berg Foun­da­tion. Big time ter­riss. Well, no, so Repub­li­can it could make you gag.

    So what is the woman that sleeps with the Alaskan sep­a­ratist try­ing to pull? She sleeps with the asshole.

    If there’s some­thing mor tenu­u­ous than non-esistent, I’d like to hear the word.

    Now, om the other hand, ‘Kill Obama’. ‘Bomb Abama’. These ass­holes never heard of the lit­tle firls in Birm­ing­ham. What I’d like to know for a fact, how do you say ‘Kill Obama’ in a nest of Spe­cial Agents and not get arrested? If some­body said kill McCain, they would have been pum­meled, beaten, detained.

    How do peo­ple deal with unlatch­ing from relity? Sarah can’t talk about a pasoor. Her’s is insane.

    Mcc­Cain can’t talk about pastors.

    Repub­li­cans cant deal with cheat­ing. In 2004, Diebold’s CEO said he’d do what­ever it took fo W to win. Any­body that doesn’t think Repub­li­cans didn’t counter in Cuya­hoga County is an idiot.

    And we’ve got ACPRN and their maybe 3.000 votes that don’t count. Between 19975 and 2007, know how many fraud­u­lent botes GOP iden­ti­fied? Fewer than 2000. In the coun­try. Doesn’t quite get the Dei­bold bull­shit in Ohio.

    Democ­rats dont cheat, Repub­li­cans cheat their asses off.

    But you peo­ple that read Nancy Nall. So you buy raicism I xan’t believe that. . Obama is dan­ger­ous? Yeah. He’s a wild­ing nut​case​.So aside from foot­baL
    How does the lying ass Tenness

    ee GOP claim they aren’t dogass pass ibter­fer­ence. Ten­nesse could go 0 – 1 9n the Pac PAC-TEN

    Regard­ing Sarah: Does this bimbo want to bring up pas­tors with hers in the win­dand entirely a nut­case? and Pstor Hagee?

    How do Amer­i­cans take on racists? If you just decide Obama’s un-presidential and scary, . You are a racist piece of shit that really ought to be disenfrannchised.

    You peo­ple go to McCain ral­less and say Kill Obama. And Bomb Obama. Are you so dense, or such unre­cal­ci­trant racists you don’t know agout the bomb­ing of lit­tle girls in Birmingham?

    What con­ceiv­able argu­ment could you present to the dis­gust­ing shit you fomented? Bomb Obama? You peo[le are so despi­ca­ble, it’s dif­fi­cult to comprehend.

    My feel­ing about Sarah? Spiro. I know you all appre­ci­ate the lan­guage, is there some­thing­more ten­u­ouis than ten­u­ous trhat­d­ing Ayres?Muons? Doesn’t come dowm to sleep­ing with and giv­ing the you’vetcha to a bunch of Alaska whacks tha have their ter­roris bonafides on the wall. But those peo­ple are right?

    If you believe in the Con­sti­tu­tion, you sure as shit don’t buy uni­tary pres­i­dency. Tell you what. Uni­tary Pres­i­dency means W should jave been king. Mc’Cain is an idiot, but he thinks this is right.YOU BUY THAT SHIT?

    i T

  53. Joe K said on October 12th, 2008 at 8:01 am

    If you care to take a unbi­ased look at what type of polit­i­cal land­scape Obama came out of, click over to the Chicago Tri­bune sight and read colum­nist John Kass, he has had a few good arti­cals on the Chicago machine and the unre­pen­tant Ayers fel­low.
    Inter­est­ing read.
    Joe

  54. alex said on October 12th, 2008 at 9:07 am

    McCain’s only pre­tend­ing to have got­ten reli­gion as regards the ral­lies, and Frank Rich says it quite well:

    http://​www​.nytimes​.com/​2​0​0​8​/​1​0​/​1​2​/​o​p​i​n​i​o​n​/​1​2​r​i​c​h​.​h​t​m​l​?​_​r​=​2​&​a​m​p​;​o​r​e​f​=​s​l​o​g​i​n​&​a​m​p​;​o​r​e​f​=​slogin

    The Obama camp is right not to con­cur with the com­par­isons between McCain and George Wal­lace. Wal­lace didn’t talk out of both sides of his mouth.

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