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A Raymond Carver story.

The dead guy frozen in ice was found in the Detroit Pub­lic Schools book depos­i­tory build­ing. I should have picked up on this yes­ter­day, but I was rushed and dis­or­ga­nized as usual, and it wasn’t until later that I remem­bered: This was the build­ing whose con­tents and crim­i­nal decay were pho­tographed by Jim from Sweet Juniper (and, to be sure, about a mil­lion other pro­fes­sional and ama­teur shoot­ers, urban explor­ers, blight tourists and var­i­ous slum­ming gawk­ers). He put together one of his typ­i­cally thought­ful posts about it, which got Boing Boing’d, Fark’d, Metafilter’d and Web 2.0’d to a fare-thee-well, cul­mi­nat­ing in one photo run­ning in Harper’s Mag­a­zine last year.

The post was also fea­tured on some racist web­sites, used by its pro­pri­etors to show what hap­pens when you let “them” run their own school sys­tems, and Jim responded to that with a follow-up post that describes the build­ing and how it got to the state it’s in. It’s pretty long, but it’s prob­a­bly the best sin­gle expla­na­tion of how decay hap­pens and why it per­sists in this city, and it boils down to: It’s com­pli­cated.

What’s most impor­tant for pur­poses of look­ing at the How and Why of the Dead Guy is prob­a­bly the building’s most recent chap­ter, when it was sold to Manuel “Matty” Moroun, whose hip-pocket, one-phrase media descrip­tion is usu­ally “reclu­sive bil­lion­aire.” Moroun owns — yes, owns out­right — the Ambas­sador Bridge across the Detroit River, which car­ries 70 25 per­cent of all the freight that moves between the United States and Canada. Some peo­ple think a cross­ing that impor­tant should be in the public’s hands — and if you’re think­ing this sounds kind of like “Chi­na­town,” you’re not alone — and efforts have been under­way on both sides of the bor­der to bring this monop­oly to a halt. Moroun is opposed to this, of course, and has taken steps to pre­serve his hold­ings, includ­ing buy­ing key real estate parcels near the bridge, one of which is the build­ing where the dead guy was found.

Moroun has no moti­va­tion to either demol­ish the build­ing or even secure it. Like a lot of struc­tures built around that time in this city, it’s solid to a fault. (You did know one of this area’s archi­tec­tural inno­va­tions was the inven­tion of rein­forced con­crete, didn’t you?) It would cost mil­lions to demol­ish and he doesn’t need it demol­ished, and so, writes Jim:

So for seven years, Moroun’s com­pany has held a per­mit for the demo­li­tion of the for­mer Detroit Pub­lic Schools book depos­i­tory, but he has done noth­ing but neglect the build­ing. …Instead, because this is Detroit, it just sits there. It is left unse­cured, open to scrap­pers, loot­ers, crack­heads, graf­fiti artists, sub­ur­ban tag­gers, van­dals, pros­ti­tutes, and local bloggers.

I imag­ine it’ll be secured now — at least for a while; the Freep today ran a photo of the perime­ter fence being repaired. The Freep, hav­ing been beaten on this story, is push­ing the city’s defense, which is: We responded to the 911 call and found noth­ing. Now that Kwame Kil­patrick, ben­e­fi­ciary of much Moroun cam­paign cash, is gone, city offi­cials are blam­ing Moroun for the inci­dent, for fail­ing to secure the build­ing. I’m sure this will still be play­ing out long after the dead guy is or isn’t ID’d and laid to rest in what­ever potter’s field the city is cur­rently using.

This is inter­est­ing: The News story today doesn’t men­tion Moroun at all. It, like yesterday’s story, was writ­ten by Char­lie LeDuff, who also had a coup of sorts late last year, when he lured the reclu­sive bil­lion­aire from under his bridge for his first inter­view in for­ever. It was, not sur­pris­ingly, a pretty respect­ful one, and didn’t touch on this issue. (He does men­tion the build­ing adja­cent to the book depos­i­tory, the infa­mous Michi­gan Cen­tral Sta­tion, which Moroun also owns. He claims he can’t tear that one down, because it’s a his­toric land­mark. No word on whether that applies to the book depos­i­tory, prob­a­bly because it doesn’t.)

This is get­ting com­pli­cated. Like most things around here.

Any­way, there are many more links in the ones I’ve already given you. The link to Jim’s follow-up post is to all his depository-tagged posts, includ­ing the orig­i­nal. A quick Flickr tag search for “detroit book depos­i­tory” will take you to hun­dreds of pho­tos of the place. And for those of you puz­zled over the head­line for this post, it’s a ref­er­ence to “So Much Water So Close to Home,” a Ray­mond Carver short story about the prob­lem posed by a dead body. It was one of the threads in the movie “Short Cuts,” for you film buffs.

So. A lit­tle bloggage:

I sus­pect the mater­nity wed­ding dress is noth­ing new — what else is an empire waist for other than fetal con­ceal­ment — but still, here’s a story about the lat­est styles.

And while we’re steal­ing links from Jezebel…now there’s a tal­ent com­pe­ti­tion.

Why we have a health-care cri­sis in this coun­try: Because there are doc­tors who will implant eight embryos in the uterus of a woman who already has six chil­dren. Remem­ber that the next time your insur­ance pre­mi­ums go up.

Have a good week­end, all. I hope to.

ADDED: Oops, almost for­got. When the Iraqi jour­nal­ist threw his shoes at George Bush, Alan said, “You wait. They’re going to put up a statue of that guy.” Not quite, but close. Alan would like you all to know he told you so.

68 responses to
“A Raymond Carver story.”

  1. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am

    Since i learn so much on this site, it’s good to give back … after hav­ing my eye­balls seared by the pic of Mr. Ice Block and Socks, it seemed only fair to look at Angelina Jolie’s dress to see what the ker­fuf­fle was (and by the way, what is the deal with Jes­sica Simp­son? she looks mar­velous, and i don’t recall hav­ing any opin­ion about her at all before).

    What caught my eye wasn’t the back or the front, but what looked like text, albeit ver­ti­cal, and since i’m a reader, read­ers gotta read. Call­ing on the pow­ers of the inter­nets, and in case any­one else wanted to be able to read Ms. Jolie’s mes­sage to the world — wikipedia and three other sites agree on the fol­low­ing, which i hope is correct:

    This tat­too on her left shoul­der blade was, just like the tiger tat­too, done by tat­too artist Noo (aka Som­pong) Kanh­phaiin in a hotel in Pathum Thani, 16 miles north of Bangkok. It is a Bud­dhist Pali incan­ta­tion writ­ten in Khmer script, the lan­guage of Cam­bo­dia. It is there to pro­tect her and her adopted Cam­bo­dian son Mad­dox from bad luck.

    Here’s the translation:

    May your ene­mies run far away from you.
    If you acquire riches, may they remain yours always.
    Your beauty will be that of Apsara.
    Wher­ever you may go, many will attend, serve and pro­tect you, sur­round­ing you on all sides.

  2. nancy said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    My lac­ta­tion con­sul­tant had been a med­ical mis­sion­ary in Cam­bo­dia. I asked if she spoke Khmer, and she said, “Not really, but I do speak ‘med­ical Khmer,’” and then rat­tled off a few phrases, which she trans­lated as “Did you have a bowel move­ment today? Was it firm or loose? What color was it?”

    I’ve heard many sto­ries of over­seas tat­too artists hav­ing fun with Amer­i­can ink-seekers. Until I hear from some­one who’s a native speaker who can read Angie’s back, I’m with­hold­ing judgment.

  3. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Haha­haha!

  4. MichaelG said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:46 am

    There are all these peo­ple sport­ing super cool Chi­nese writ­ing tatoos and when I see them I won­der if the tat­too says “Shrimp Chou Mein” or “I’m a dum­b­ass gwai lo” or some­thing like that.

  5. jeff borden said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    Trans­la­tions work both ways. I remem­ber a story some years ago about T-shirts pop­u­lar with Japan­ese teens that fea­tured non­sen­si­cal Eng­lish phrases.

  6. brian stouder said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    Well firstly, I’d never, ever, ever get a tat­too. Hell, it’s all I can do to let Red Cross jam nee­dles into me for phere­sis — and in THAT case it’s just two lit­tle pricks (so to speak) and then 100 min­utes of watch­ing TV (the lady next to me Tues­day had con­trol of the tv, and had the new Get Smart movie in…which actu­ally was pretty good!…not that I could walk out on it)

    But my under­stand­ing is that tat­toos are much more painful, leav­ing aside the “art” itself that you are then ‘stuck’ with.

    And this is leav­ing aside the (admit­tedly xeno­pho­bic) addi­tional fear of get­ting a tat­too while in Cambodia!

    Good God! — that would almost cer­tainly get me a life­time defer­rment from any more Red Cross donations!

  7. LA Mary said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    I was late leav­ing home this morn­ing because I couldn’t tear myself away from the mother of four­teen story. I know it’s tabloidy and all, but jeez. What doc­tor would do that? What is the men­tal state of that mother? And who pays? Kaiser is most often a provider as part of a employee ben­e­fit pro­gram. Is this a work­ing mother?

  8. Sue said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    I was won­der­ing when it would hit the fan re the 8 babies. The first inkling was a rel­a­tively low-key arti­cle that sorta kinda men­tioned that most fer­til­ity spe­cial­ists weren’t doing the lit­ter treat­ments any­more, cit­ing things like astro­nom­i­cal costs, dan­ger to mother and babies, and ohyeah, the fact that tech­nol­ogy has been beyond that for awhile now. Seri­ously, a deliv­ery team of 40? They prob­a­bly capped their life­time limit before the kids were even born, or some­time dur­ing the deliv­ery. After that, who takes over the cost? Per­haps they’ll get their own cable show, or a spe­cial on Dis­cov­ery Chan­nel. I have also read for at least a cou­ple of years now sto­ries about com­mu­ni­ties get­ting “mul­ti­ples fatigue” — not com­ing together when one of these births take place with all the gifts (from free dia­pers to cars). I won­der what the back­lash to this fam­ily is going to be. Not too nasty, I hope. There are babies involved, after all.

  9. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:13 am

    The only way i’ll stop hyper­ven­ti­lat­ing over this one is to force it on any­one who’s will­ing to click it — a Wode­house 2.0 com­plaint let­ter to Richard Branson

  10. coozledad said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    One of the mem­bers of a band I was in had a per­sonal tat­too artist of sorts: They’d shoot up what­ever IV drugs hap­pened to be avail­able in Bal­ti­more (tar process heroin, mor­phine, Bon Ami) then set to draw­ing on each other. The results I could see were less than spec­tac­u­lar. They also did ama­teur pierc­ings. Appar­ently the pain from the nip­ple job out­lasted the gen­eral anesthesia.

  11. brian stouder said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    nance — I think that FULLY (and not “not quite”!) vin­di­cates Alan’s pre­dic­tion! And they put the really Big Shoe in front of an orphan­age, to boot

  12. nancy said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    I guess, Sue, first we have to dis­cuss what sort of fam­ily this is, given the mother is sin­gle and lives with her par­ents and, now, 14 chil­dren under the age of eight.

    You know what I’d like to see? Some sort of psy­cho­log­i­cal study on some­thing I’ve come to think of as Mater­nity Insan­ity. We’ve all seen it — the friend or acquain­tance who has one baby and it just flips a switch in her, and she has another after another after another. While there’s noth­ing patho­log­i­cal about want­ing a big fam­ily, what seems to be the divid­ing line for these women is their lust for babies — they seem to lose inter­est in their kids after they reach a cer­tain age, and they start work­ing on the next one.

    Not sur­pris­ingly, these girls tend to turn up in cul­tures that reward them — rad-trad Catholics, polyg­a­mist com­pounds, crunchy-granola house­holds full of hap­haz­ardly dressed tod­dlers and unflushed toi­lets, etc. And I’m sure it has a lot to do with hor­mones and the exter­nal atten­tion paid to preg­nant women. But I really think it’s a mild men­tal ill­ness, and I think Mom o’ Eight is a prime example.

  13. Peter said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Re: Chi­nese Char­ac­ters — back dur­ing the Stone Age when I was in school, the report cards were mailed out wrapped in a a sheet of Chi­nese char­ac­ters to obscure the news. I always won­dered if the char­ac­ters were some secret degrad­ing message…

  14. Colleen said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am

    I’m a firm believer in one’s repro­duc­tive sta­tus or lack thereof being one’s own beeswax. That said, there is some­thing that really both­ers me about this mom of 14 thing.

    Re: the mater­nity wed­ding dress thing.…I wish peo­ple would QUIT per­pet­u­at­ing the myth of white dress being a dec­la­ra­tion of the sta­tus of one’s vir­gin­ity. It’s sup­posed to rep­re­sent joy, not “purity”.

  15. Sue said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Huh, the baby details must have come out after I fin­ished watch­ing this morning’s news; I didn’t know about the fam­ily sta­tus. My hus­band guessed it was a sec­ond mar­riage kind of thing, hav­ing to have “some of their own”. I won­der if a psy­cho­log­i­cal analy­sis is gen­er­ally done as part of the workup for fer­til­ity treat­ments — I used to work with a bariatric sur­geon who wouldn’t do a major pro­ce­dure until the patient had been seen and cleared by a psy­chol­o­gist. His rea­son­ing (and he should know, he’s been doing it for years) is that mor­bid obe­sity is such an extremely mixed bag of causative fac­tors that he’d bet­ter know what he (the sur­geon) was get­ting into, and have the option of refus­ing the patient. Why not the same for some­one who is will­ing to go through fer­til­ity treat­ments in a quest for more than six kids?
    Re tat­toos, about 3 months ago the owner of a tat­too estab­lish­ment came into my office to dis­cuss the pos­si­bil­ity of open­ing another office in our city. His face and neck were cov­ered in a spi­der­web pat­tern, and I mean cov­ered, eye­lids and every­thing. Since most peo­ple in the US are taught from child­hood not to stare at dis­fig­ure­ments, and since the rea­son for a com­pletely tatooed face is to attract atten­tion to one’s artistry, I was in a bad spot. I had to force myself to look at him, because my brain told me he was injured or deformed, and yet his choice of tat­too place­ment demanded acknowl­edg­ment and appreciation.

  16. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Wed­ding dresses before Queen Vic­to­ria mar­ried her Prince Albert (yes, he’s in the can; no, we won’t let him out) were as likely to be russet-brown or cobalt-blue. White was unheard of, but like Christ­mas trees and paint­ing wrought iron black, once Queen Vic­to­ria did it, every­one wanted the same.

  17. Jolene said on January 30th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Wow, just wow! It’s hor­ri­ble to think of a physi­cian will­ing to pro­vide fer­til­ity treat­ment for a sin­gle woman who already has six chil­dren. What was he think­ing? I don’t have any­thing imag­i­na­tive to say – just that some peo­ple seem to have such poor judg­ment that they really should not be allowed to make con­se­quen­tial deci­sions by them­selves. Of course, since one of the par­ties demon­strat­ing such judg­ment in this sit­u­a­tion is the highly edu­cated physi­cian, it’s dif­fi­cult to know who would have the author­ity to inter­vene. Poor kids.

  18. Dexter said on January 30th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Remem­ber the “Curb Your Enthu­si­asm” epi in which Larry David couldn’t fire his Tourette’s Syn­drome chef at his new restau­rant because the chef was obvi­ously a “sur­vivor”, because Larry had seen the tat­too on his arm?…turned out the “tat­too” was the lot­tery num­ber the chef had writ­ten on his arm after play­ing the state lot­tery. When he found out he hadn’t won, he just rubbed it off…now, if all tat­toos could be so eas­ily removed…and — have you seen all the tatts Pamela Ander­son has? She’s cov­ered in them…Tommy Lee loves ‘em, I reckon.

  19. Kirk said on January 30th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    For what it’s worth, accord­ing to exit polling by an out­fit called Pub­lic Pol­icy Polling, Ohio and Indi­ana ranked No. 1 and No. 3 in dif­fer­ence of sup­port for Obama between the old­est and youngest vot­ers. In Ohio, polling showed vot­ers under 30 favor­ing Obama by 55 points and vot­ers over 65 pre­fer­ring McCain by 11 points, a dif­fer­ence of 66 points. In Indi­ana, it was +28 for Obama among the young, +24 for McCain among the old, a dif­fer­ence of 52 points. The small­est dif­fer­ence between old and young was 5 points, in Georgia.

  20. Catherine said on January 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    At the other end of the fer­til­ity scale, I was once in my OB’s office next to a 40-ish woman who wanted a con­sult about selec­tive reduc­tion. She’d done IVF and implanted two embryos in an effort to avoid the octu­plet sce­nario. Both embryos “took,” and one divided. Presto, triplets! I don’t think she was all that com­mit­ted to the idea of par­ent­hood in the first place, let alone triplets. The doc­tor told her, no way. Inter­est­ing how three babies seems like way too many to some peo­ple, while 14 sounds like a good idea to others.

  21. whitebeard said on January 30th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    I had an edi­tor at a Cana­dian news­pa­per who thought that GOP stood for Gov­ern­ment Oppo­si­tion Party, the party that was out of power. That has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it? And if Pres­i­dent Obama nom­i­nates Sen. Gregg to Com­merce and the New Hamp­shire Demo­c­rat who is gov­er­nor names a Demo­c­rat to the Sen­ate to make it filibuster-proof, I have a men­tal image of a herd of ele­phants linked trunk to tail mut­ter­ing under their breath about the need for a new image as they head into the polit­i­cal grave­yard. The vot­ers have already told the Repugs what they thought of the party image in the mid-term and pres­i­den­tial elections.

  22. brian stouder said on January 30th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Well, the new GOP chair­man is a black man, and that is an alto­gether good thing.

    ‘Course, the party is actu­ally run by an oxy­con­tin addict given to sex­ual tourism in third world areas, who is actively root­ing for the wors­en­ing of our eco­nomic Hard Times.…

    Say — here’s an obscen­ity I just received in my e-mail.…or what would YOU call this?:

    I’m con­fused..

    how can nearly 2 mil­lion blacks get into Wash­ing­ton DC in sub zero temps in 1 day when 200,000 couldn’t get out of New Orleans at 85 degrees with four days notice.

    A real knee-slapper, eh?

  23. jeff borden said on January 30th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Re: the birth of many chil­dren. What are your thoughts about that Arkansas clan that now has 18 kids and hubby and wifey say they still want more? I can’t recall their last name, only that the hus­band is actu­ally called Jim Bob.

    When I was in Catholic school in Ohio, my best friend for awhile was the second-oldest of 12 kids. They all lived in a ram­bling farm­house and ate meals in shifts deter­mined by age. I don’t recall either his mom or dad being weird, but even by Catholic stan­dards, where so many of my fel­low stu­dents came from fam­i­lies of five and six and seven, a dozen was a lot. As a child of mixed parent­age –Catholic mom, Methodist dad– I had to make do with just one sis­ter and no brothers.

  24. LA Mary said on January 30th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    I believe you’re talk­ing about the Dug­gars, Jeff. In the com­ments sec­tion of the Defamer web­site, some snarky per­son said, “what that woman has isn’t a uterus; it’s a clown car.” Sadly, this applies to our octo­mom too.

  25. Sue said on January 30th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    When Jim Bob and his wife were on #16 or some­thing, one of the com­ment sec­tions (CNN or some­where) had a com­ment that went some­thing along the lines of “It’s a uterus, not a clown car!” I still laugh when I think of that line. I wouldn’t object to those folks so much if they weren’t so ridicu­lously fake. Really, come on, every­one looks and acts like they spend Sat­ur­day nights watch­ing Lawrence Welk and lik­ing it, and they present them­selves as though there is never any dis­cord. I’ve known large fam­i­lies; the under­cur­rents can be really hos­tile.
    Edit: LAMary, you beat me to it!

  26. Hoosier said on January 30th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Re body art, have you ever seen a 75 year old tat­too on a wrinkly old sorry ass? Not a pretty sight and enough to dis­cour­age any­one from get­ting one!
    Re mater­nity bridal gowns, why not? Net­work TV airs shows where first dates end up in bed as nor­mal inter­ac­tions. Min­is­ters con­done big splashy wed­dings of preg­gers cou­ples while preach­ing absti­nence & claim­ing the banned peta com­mer­cial as for­ni­cat­ing with broc­coli. It’s one or the other, so evan­gel­i­cals should take take action to dis­play their beliefs or shut up.
    Re octo­mom. Any doc­tor con­sid­er­ing fer­til­ity assis­tance to a sin­gle or mar­ried mother of 6 chil­dren (aged 7 and under) should be inves­ti­gated for malpractice.

  27. joodyb said on January 30th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    has any­one seen the Dug­gars? that has got to be the creepi­est real­ity show yet. i had my doubts about the pro­gram­mers at TLC even before that show came along. my spouse loves loves loves Jon & Kate + 8 though. they have a cer­tain charm. fer­til­ity ther­apy was involved there too but it was over­all much more a happy accident/experiment in ter­ror. and they are very very frank about their lives. Dug­gars, you don’t get that sense. i read a lot between the lines. sourest aspect was the build­ing of the new house, and the mul­ti­ple indus­trial dishwashers.

  28. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 30th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    You need to Google “quiv­er­full move­ment” for some edu­ca­tional reading.

    The allu­sion is to Psalm 135, i think (edit: ok, 127, verses 3 to 5…sorry). Sorry, gotta run — i’m evenly split between both­ered that a fer­til­ity doc would do any pro­ce­dures on a woman with mul­ti­ple births “under her belt” so to speak (thanks for mak­ing an argu­ment for health care rationing), and hor­ri­fied by how casu­ally Nancy Sny­der­man and her peeps on NBC/MSNBC are empha­siz­ing that “culling” is the only sen­si­ble course, and brag­ging about “we’ve reduced the unnec­es­sary inci­dence of triplets and even twins sub­stan­tially in the last decade.”

    Shiv­ers to both sides on this one. Hard cases, bad law, Holmes, yada yada.

  29. caliban said on January 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    So, you’ve got a story. Run like a bunny. But this seems like a Danny Caso­laro kind of story, so take care.

    Ray­mond Carver? How bout Sher­man Alexie? Humm. I’d say TC Boyle and Breece D’Jay Pan­cake (if that’s his real name) wrote bet­ter sto­ries. Har­lan Elli­son could turn all of them out on a dime. Dashiell Ham­mett wrote bet­ter short sto­ries than nov­els, and he always wished he was Ray­mond Chan­dler. What ever hap­pened to short sto­ries? Is it all the fault of edi­tors at the New Yorker? No plot, no bang for the buck, just ennui?

    Hilton Head island gets it Detroit on. I’m 57, and this is the fourth shoot­ing inci­dent I’ve wit­nessed in my life­time. What are the odds. I saw a guy shot to death on Shrews­bury St. in Worces­ter MA while my future wife and I were walk­ing to the movies. And we were trip­ping. This one, I was stone sober and almost run over by the Sher­iff SUV. Before that, my brother’s dog Spot­ter was crap­ping on the lawn of some unhinged J. Wal­ter Thomp­son account exec­u­tivve and the rat-bastard shot him in the tail with a pel­let gun. My dad con­fronted the cow­ard and snatched the rifle from his hands and broke it in two.

    The other instance, well, that bul­let was aimed at me, and I sure as hell didn’t deserve it, though some of you may beg, nay, clamor, to dis­agree. It was a dark and stormy night. Not Really. It was snow­ing a bliz­zard, and we were trudg­ing through about a foot and a half up Com­mon­wealth Avenue, look­ing for my stolen Gib­son 12string. I threat­ened with a steak knife. The gui­tar was unfor­tu­nately fucked.

    What Tony Blair and Ali­cia Sil­ver­stoneand Pres­i­dent Seg­way have in com­mon. Clue­less. Bonus points: Which one had the brains to treat Eliz­a­beth Has­sel­beck like she was try­ing to be Michelle Malkin and she didn’t exist? When will these media whores get it that you can’t be Ann Coul­ter with­out the Adam’s Apple?

    Why the sun will never set on the Brit Press. And what it might be like to be an ex empire. Call­ing William Boot. Lord Cop­per on the line.

  30. Catherine said on January 30th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Re the culling, it seems kind of hor­ri­fy­ing to me too. The dr. I men­tioned above refused to do the selec­tive reduc­tion on the triplets because risks to all the babies of the pro­ce­dure were higher than the risks of car­ry­ing & birthing triplets. Pretty math­e­mat­i­cal approach.

  31. deb said on January 30th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    nance, just won­der­ing, did you note the google ad for some­thing related to sarah palin (com­plete with mis­spelled last name) on your site? eeewww. i didn’t click through. just couldn’t bring myself to go there. this week’s been unpleas­ant enough already.

  32. caliban said on January 30th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Math is gor­geous, but I never got it. On the other hand, everything’s math and I get that, McCaskill rules. The buca­neer dap­tains are rob­bing every­body. They buy jets and drapes and they don’t give a shit about any­body. This is the Ray­gun Rev­o­lu­tion. The peo­ple thatr run things make 300 times what the peo­ple make that make things. WWJD? Drive their greedy asses out of the marketplace.

    There’s some­thing to be con­sid­ered regard­ing flam­ing ass­holes like John Cornyn. Who exactly is the con­stituency. They despise poor peo­ple and they have made more peo­ple poor than any group of bas­tards in US his­tory. They haven’t enriched trhem­selves (other than Dick­less). So what the fuck is wrong with these peo­ple? They hate poor peo­ple? They just hate peo­ple in general?

    How do the run on this?

  33. beb said on January 30th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    So the rea­son nothing’s ever been done about the Michi­gan Cen­tral build­ing is because this guy Moroun just wants to tie up the land so nobody else can build a bridge next to his. I’ve always loved the train sta­tion. The exte­rior is beau­ti­ful. I’ve never seen the inside so have always heard that it, too, was beau­ti­ful. The build­ing is huge. I’m told thst the top five floors were never fin­ished because they couldn’t find ten­ants. While the build­ing has undoubt­edly been stripped of all its plumb­ing and elec­tri­cal wiring, I sup­pose it is still struc­turally sound. It some­one wanted to ren­o­vate it they would want to replace all the wiring and plumb­ing any­way — it bring it up to mod­ern stan­dards, so I don’t think it’s stripped con­di­tion is a seri­ous com­pli­ca­tion. It seems to be that it would be a great build­ing to con­vert into mixed lofts and retail. The train sta­tion is sur­rounded by a lot of open, paved ground which could be con­verted into a park.

    I think I saw a note on one of the blogs that the Iraqi gov­ern­ment has ordered the shoe statue removed. I won­der whose idea that way?

    I heard that Detroit’d mayor is propos­ing to bal­ance the city’s bud­get with a 10% cut in worker’s wagers. As a city worker it’s a bit hard to get behind this idea since in the 20 years I’ve been with the city, con­tracts have included cuts in hours, twice, give back and year and after of no increases. Since city work­ers don’t get cost of liv­ing adjust­ments, that means that city wages have been declin­ing for twenty years. The only time work­ers ever got three years of mod­est increases was the last time that Cole­man ran for Mayor. I guess he didn’t want any labor unrest dur­ing an elec­tion. But that was the only time wages kept up with inflation.

  34. CrazyCatLady-Mrs.Beb said on January 31st, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Heard from some­one who can read Japan­ese Kanji Tat­toos. Rarely do the trans­la­tions mean what the tat­too shop says it does. For all we know peo­ple could be walk­ing around with ‘Ass­hole’ or ‘Stu­pid One’ per­ma­nently seared into their naive flesh. And as for that Cal­i­for­nia woman with 8 new­borns I feel sorry for those kids. No Dad in the pic­ture, just Gramma and Grampa and a great big hos­pi­tal bill to strain California’s bank­rupt Medi-Cal sys­tem. I pity the kids.

  35. CrazyCatLady-Mrs.Beb said on January 31st, 2009 at 12:17 am

    As a res­i­dent of Detroit and the wife of a city employee, I hate to see 10% taken out of our bud­get. Times are hard, but our util­i­ties, gro­cery and other bills aren’t going down 10%. Here we go again…

  36. Dexter said on January 31st, 2009 at 1:15 am

  37. MaryRC said on January 31st, 2009 at 1:39 am

    Jon & Kate + 8 do have charm but it’s hard not to think that the two older twin girls, who are about 8 or 9, aren’t get­ting the atten­tion they need. They seem to feel they have to com­pete with the six younger chil­dren and can act like lit­tle divas at times. It can’t be easy grow­ing up in a real­ity show, but Jon and Kate make it clear that they need the money that the show provides.

    joodby, you’re right about the Dug­gars, there’s some­thing grim about them. At least Kate only had to get preg­nant twice but Mrs. Jim Bob has been preg­nant for more than half her mar­ried life. Mar­ried 24 years, 18 kids — that’s 13 and a half years that she has spent being pregnant.

    Does any­one remem­ber the McCaughey sep­tu­plets? They’d be about 10 or 11 now. They were fea­tured on the cover of Ladies’ Home Jour­nal every year for years. Like Jon and Kate, the McCaugh­eys had fer­til­ity treat­ments and refused selec­tive reduc­tion. The two youngest chil­dren have cere­bral palsy. There was some­thing uncom­fort­able about the way that LHJ’s writ­ers would gloss over the children’s health prob­lems, using euphemisms like (as I recall) “[youngest child] moves at his own pace” when in fact he couldn’t walk at all. Kind of took away from the “mir­a­cle” of it all, I suppose.

  38. Dexter said on January 31st, 2009 at 1:40 am

  39. Hoosier said on January 31st, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Heroic tale of a 4 yo. Warms the cock­les of your heart (what ever those are)

    hhtp://www.wane.com/dpp/news/local_wane_fw_Kid_Hero_911_caller_20090131122_rev1

  40. beb said on January 31st, 2009 at 11:33 am

    I read a mys­tery a year or two ago, author and titlenow for­got­ten, which is ashame because I liked the book and would like to read another by that guy. The story cen­tered around a tat­too artist who was using char­ac­ters from a chi­nese menu and mak­ing up fan­cy­ful trans­la­tions of what they mean.

    The mys­tery was in the same vein as Carl Hais­sen, even set in Florida.

  41. MichaelG said on January 31st, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    The pay cuts and lay offs hit­ting nn.c’ers lend a nice per­spec­tive to the sight of the Wall Streeters pay­ing them­selves huge bonuses from the bil­lion dol­lar bailouts that the gov’t is giv­ing the peo­ple who stole the orig­i­nal money in the first place. It’s the Amer­i­can way: Wel­fare for the rich and free enter­prise for the poor.

    Jeez, I don’t mean to sound whiney or bit­ter it just sort of comes out that way.

  42. MichaelG said on January 31st, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    I don’t think blame for the octu­plets deba­cle should go to the mom. Given my strong back­ground in the head sci­ences, my con­sid­ered pro­fes­sional opin­ion is that she’s crazy as a shit house rat. Besides, she has enough prob­lems as it is. Blame goes to whomever pro­vided her with the impreg­na­tion ser­vices. Kaiser has made it clear it wasn’t them. No rep­utable oper­a­tion would implant eight embryos in any woman. No rep­utable oper­a­tion would implant any embryos at all in a sin­gle job­less woman with proven fer­til­ity and six exist­ing chil­dren with­out at the very least some seri­ous psy­cho­log­i­cal eval­u­a­tion. What we have here is some­thing that is cer­tainly stu­pid and irre­spon­si­ble on the part of the provider, very arguably uneth­i­cal and very close to mal­prac­tice given the unfor­tu­nate health con­se­quences suf­fered by many chil­dren of extreme mul­ti­ple births. I won­der who paid for the clinic. This stuff isn’t cheap. Kaiser and the State and the County and whomever is pay­ing for the end results should go after the clinic Ms. Sule­man was vis­it­ing. I also don’t think you can crit­i­cize Kaiser for hav­ing so many staff mem­bers ded­i­cated to ensur­ing a healthy out­come for all con­cerned. An over response to a sit­u­a­tion like this is prefer­able to a too casual response. Past expe­ri­ence has show­cased an out­pour­ing of help in the shape of goods and money for par­ents of extreme mul­ti­ple births. Ain’t gonna hap­pen here. Given the amaz­ing cir­cum­stances and the mother’s Islamic sound­ing name she’ll be lucky some ass­hole doesn’t burn her exist­ing house down.

  43. MaryRC said on January 31st, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    The story cen­tered around a tat­too artist who was using char­ac­ters from a chi­nese menu and mak­ing up fan­cy­ful trans­la­tions of what they mean.

    Michael McClel­land? Tat­too Blues?

  44. moe99 said on January 31st, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Well, I’m all bummed out that the most recent Bat­tlestar Galac­tica episode had a “to be con­tin­ued” sign at the end. It left me on the edge of my seat. The writ­ers and direc­tors are not afraid to kill good char­ac­ters, so there really is uncer­tainty in this. It also didn’t help that I watched it at the home of some friends who have a very large tv with a great sound sys­tem. Good thing I don’t.

  45. beb said on January 31st, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    MaryRC
    That’s the book. Thanks.

  46. Deborah said on January 31st, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    This whole octu­plet inci­dent is puz­zling isn’t it? Now there seems to be an Iraq con­nec­tion from what I’ve heard on the news/internets. Weird. What’s going on here? Does any­one know?

  47. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 31st, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Grandpa is a pri­vate con­trac­tor for USAID (maybe, not clear), about to go back. Trans­la­tor or some­thing, but he’s not saying.

    True about much around this story. Very, very strange. But the term “selec­tive reduc­tion” still gives me the creeps.

  48. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on January 31st, 2009 at 10:46 pm

  49. Dexter said on January 31st, 2009 at 11:51 pm

  50. Dexter said on January 31st, 2009 at 11:55 pm

  51. Dexter said on February 1st, 2009 at 1:16 am

  52. Dexter said on February 1st, 2009 at 8:48 am

  53. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on February 1st, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Appar­ently, Mitch does not read NN.C. Some­one may want to sug­gest that to him. He could learn lots!

  54. Gasman said on February 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Dex­ter,
    Re: the Hotel Chelsea blog photo. Naw, he didn’t loose that much weight. That’s just a pair of Rush Limbaugh’s undies. The wind must of caught that mainsail-like bolt of cloth and car­ried all the way from the Dark Lord’s Florida lair. You could jump out of a plane with that much fabric.

  55. Bill said on February 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Here’s an arti­cle on the “Alfalfa Club” din­ner in D.C. last night. Best lines : “Cheney hurt him­self mov­ing: Didn’t know water-boards are so heavy, and times are tough… can’t even sell an Illi­nois Sen­ate seat.”

    http://​www​.swamp​pol​i​tics​.com/​n​e​w​s​/​p​o​l​i​t​i​c​s​/​b​l​o​g​/​2​0​0​9​/​0​2​/​o​b​a​m​a​_​r​o​b​e​r​t​_​e​_​l​e​e​d​_​b​e​_​v​e​r​y​_​c​o.html

  56. moe99 said on February 1st, 2009 at 3:41 pm

  57. Deborah said on February 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    I’m a lit­er­ary groupie, so once a few years back on an east coast dri­ving trip I made arrange­ments to spend the night at the Hotel Chelsea in NY where the likes of Dylan Thomas and Paul Bowles lived. Wow, it was a total flop house. The pil­lows on the bed in our room had hairs on them. I insisted that house­keep­ing come in and replace the bed­ding. I also went out and bought cleansers to clean the bath­room and scrubbed it myself. It was just filthy. I love the sto­ries about the place, but the real­ity is some­thing else indeed.

  58. moe99 said on February 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    more news from Detroit and the freep:

    http://​tinyurl​.com/​bedr7s

    fam­ily ter­ror­ized by Detroit police for two hours in mis­taken drug raid.

  59. basset said on February 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    if I was going to stay in a spe­cific hotel out of appre­ci­a­tion for its con­tri­bu­tions to our cul­tural his­tory, I sup­pose it’d be one of these:

    http://​hon​ey​moons​.about​.com/​c​s​/​c​a​n​a​d​i​a​n​g​e​t​a​w​a​y​s​/​a​/​j​o​h​n​y​o​ko.htm

  60. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on February 1st, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    OK, that was the best half­time show on the Super­bowl i’ve ever seen, and i think i’ve seen ‘em all. Bruuuuuuuuuuuce .…

    (btw, Deb­o­rah, i drove by the Chelsea in ’93, and that was enough for me — you’ve brave, even with a bucket of clean­ing sup­plies in hand.)

  61. nancy said on February 1st, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Too bad he he was upstaged by the last play before the half.

  62. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on February 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Nah, they com­ple­mented each other. (And a Kent State alum, didja notice?)

  63. MichaelG said on February 1st, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    BUMMERRRR!

  64. Joe Kobiela said on February 1st, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Ok,
    Who liked what com­mer­cials??
    I liked the one for pedi­gree dog food.
    Pilot Joe

  65. brian stouder said on February 1st, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Best: The Coke com­mer­i­cal where the guy falls asleep and the bugs hijack his bottle.

    Worst: The ‘it’s time to change jobs’ one which was repet­i­tive, unin­ven­tive, out of tune with the times, and there­fore ineffective.

    I WAS taken by the car ads where if “you lose your income source” within a year, they’ll take the car back with­out crash­ing your credit rating.

    I was for the Car­di­nals all the way; a good game, although the offi­cials were pretty mercilous

  66. Dave K. said on February 1st, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    I thought it was inter­est­ing that Audi, Toy­ota, and Hyundai all had com­mer­cials, even though they lost money in 2008. Of course the US automak­ers wouldn’t dare spend any­thing on adver­tis­ing, mid-bailout. Yes, Pedigree’s “Maybe you should get a dog…” was pretty funny. I espe­cially liked the grandma in the back seat with a warthog, “How do you think I’m doing?!!”.

    Edit: The Coke “Bugs” com­mer­cial was really well made and in the spirit of clas­sic Super Bowl com­mer­cials. I won­der who pro­duced that and what it cost?

    Before the game I said that I wanted the Steel­ers to win, then I caught myself cheer­ing for the Cards. 1) AZ defense was super, until the last 2:37. 2) #11 is one fast SOB! 3) And #10 San­to­nio stole the spot­light. 4) James Har­ri­son won the game with his inter­cep­tion return, but he should have been ejected on the punt play he was flagged for. 5) Brian, I agree that the refs were merciless?

  67. Jeff (the mild-mannered one) said on February 1st, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Could the GoDaddy ads get any uniron­i­cally worse? Or is there a metairony here i’m missing?

    The ad mate­r­ial in gen­eral was pretty lame, and i still miss the once-annual Mas­ter Lock get­ting shot. The Bugs/Coke ad was cool, and i think the Audi ad was mak­ing an in-joke about Grand Theft Autos suc­ces­sive ver­sions, but i only know that stuff sec­ond hand, so maybe i’m miss­ing something.

    The Boss was tremen­dous, but can you imag­ine the sta­dium and national reax when they finally wise up and tap Jimmy Buf­fet for half­time? I mean, c’mon … it will be the ulti­mate national sing-along.

    Along with “Best,” a very sub­jec­tive mea­sure, i’d have to say that objec­tively, Bruce was hav­ing more fun *being* the Super­bowl half­time show than any­one i’ve ever seen. His obvi­ous delight in being there and doing the show was enjoy­able even to folks who aren’t ‘steen fans, as my liv­ing room proved. It was just fun see­ing how much fun he and the E-Streeters were hav­ing, and i don’t recall any­one, even U2, look­ing that happy and thank­ful to be in the mid­dle of the field.

  68. Dexter said on February 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 am

    My best laugh was the Chee­tos comm in which the annoy­ing cell-talker was “sic’d” on by the birds.
    I stayed a few nights at The Chelsea Hotel in the 1980’s and it was fine, but I knew what to expect. Close-by were a deli, a jazz club, and a sub­way stop, and an OTB par­lor. By NYC stan­dards it was cheap, just $85 a night , but maybe Stan­ley Bard just took pity on us and gave us a good rate. Now the Bards are out and the hotel is in con­stant tur­moil , with res­i­dents and man­age­ment at war. It’s been quite a tur­bu­lent past few months, with the res­ig­na­tion recently of the new man­ager, and more urgent calls to bring Stan­ley Bard back.…
    Last night was spe­cial for me as I am a long-time Spring­steen fan , and concert-goer. Of course both dogs had to go out so I only saw a lit­tle of the half­time show and I will watch the record­ing later today.
    The com­mish was wrong…as good as the fin­ish was, it did not top last year’s fin­ish.
    I swear, if I didn’t know bet­ter, I would have said the fix was in on that last play of the first half. SOMEBODY should have stopped him! I mean that wasn’t a player with Ste­vie Breaston-like speed return­ing that interception.